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FAQs
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What's the shadiest tactic you've witnessed HR use at your job?
They used false “help wanted” ads to fire their own employees that were looking for a new job.I worked for a lead generation service which sold qualified lists of homeowners (and their telephone numbers) to financial advisers. Then, they sold those same financial advisers a telemarketing service that would call those homeowners and arrange appointments with them. There is so much that is “shady” about this company that it is impossible to bring up one questionable act without first explaining several previous questionable or downright illegal acts. (UPDATE: if you want more details about how bad it was to work for this place, check out John Hursey's answer to What is the most ridiculous reason for which you have been fired?)After a particularly horrifying series of events right around the holiday season, I decided to begin looking for a new job. I got on craigslist, and I found several positions in customer service and data entry that were available right in my city. I sent them a quick email with my resume attached, and waited for a response.The next day I was called into the President’s office. He invited me to sit down. His mother (the vice president of the company) was standing behind him. He asked me if I was happy working for him.Luckily for me, I knew this was a trap of some kind and answered honestly. I told him that I was interested in having more free time with a more flexible schedule and that it would be impossible to do so with my current job, so I was in the process of looking for something else. I also told him that I had informed my direct supervisor of my intentions last week, and that I would give the company adequate warning—at least two weeks notice—before I quit.He and his mother looked at each other. Well, he said, it turns out that one of the companies I had applied to was the very same company I worked for now. I thought that was odd, because I don’t have any intellectual disabilities or mental impairments that would indicate I would apply to the same company that I currently worked for. Nevertheless, I told him that I suppose this was good news, since perhaps I could simply transfer to whatever this open position was and still maintain my employment with his company while working the schedule that was most convenient for myself.Not so fast. It turned out there wasn’t any positions available in those departments. Their strategy was to entice applicants with positions in data entry and customer service and then during the interview inform them that those positions had been filled; those applicants were then offered much less pay and schedule flexibility as a salesman. In addition, current employees that applied for these jobs were summarily fired for being “disloyal.”A month later I was terminated, for reasons I still do not fully understand. I applied for unemployment, and when I explained the series of events leading to my termination the lady at the unemployment office literally scoffed at me and told me that my story was unbelievable. She even called me personally at home to tell me that the company was contesting my unemployment filing and that she expected me to lose the arbitration process.The day of the hearing I got a phone call from the same lady, in tears. She apologized profusely for how she had treated me. She had just completed a five-minute interaction with the president and his mother, confirming not only my story but also her worst fears about humanity in general.
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Have you ever lost a job offer because you negotiated your salary too high?
No, I have never seen anyone lose a job offer because they negotiated for too high a salary.That said, I have only seen people lose a job offer due to the WAY they negotiated, not WHAT they negotiated.Ask for whatever you want: higher salary, more stock options, title, vacation time, etc.If you do not ask, then you will never get.It is the way you ask. Those people that negotiate professionally, with respect, with data supporting their position…those that ask nicely will have a much better chance being successful than those that do not.Quick story:I was looking to hire a GREAT engineer. Super talented with incredible skills, top tier education, and had worked at a number of high caliber companies.We really, REALLY, wanted to hire him.He was negotiating for 30% more in salary and stock options than what we were offering. In truth, I was more than willing to give him the 30% increase…in fact, I would have even gone higher.BUT…He was super aggressive and arrogant in the negotiation, even going as far as saying that I would be stupid to not hire him and that there was no one better than him.I paused in our conversation and pictured him working at my company, interacting with other engineers…the picture quickly looked like a nightmare. As such, I told him I was actually pretty stupid, and that we were passing on the opportunity to hire him.Bullet dodged.Two big take aways:Always ask for what you wantTreat people the way you would want to be treated in that situation
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What are the biggest lessons you have learned in the corporate world?
Arriving early and doing nothing is viewed more favorably than staying late and working assiduously. It’s unfair, but it’s only the first boot of real life to kick you in the ass.HR and the ethics hotline don’t exist as a resource to you; they exist to cover management’s ass. I’ve worked for bosses who have used racial slurs, homophobic epithets, threatened and intimidated staff, used drugs in the office, and misappropriated their expense credits, but they were never so much as suspended. I almost lost my job for marking a sale as closed when I got verbal confirmation from my client (with my manager on the phone), only to get the actual signed documents a few days later.Always, always, ALWAYS document and organize files of communication between you and your superiors and you and problem clients. Did I say always? Discrepancies (read lies) in accounts of your interactions from either of these parties is a fast track to being escorted out of the building. Nothing shuts up a lying SOB like a time-stamped email with the intro, “Per my email on July 15, I mentioned….”Always keep a pulse on the job market. At least twice a year apply for jobs in your industry to get a sense on what your skills trade for in the open market and to sharpen your interviewing skills. It’s also a great habit to be in the orbit of recruiters because they operate within a tight-knit ecosystem, network with, and know one another. If you’re not a great fit for one role, and they like you, they’ll refer you to a friend or colleague looking to fill another role as a courtesy.Even if you’re not interested in a role that they may signNow you for, always try to recommend or refer qualified candidates to recruiters. This pays dividends down the road.Be wise as a serpent, yet as humble as a dove. Many people advise against making friends, but I would advise that you make them believe that you’re a friend. Being too cold and stoic in the office will make your colleagues withhold gossip, news, and politics from you that may be actionable. You can be friendly without being friends. Whatever your line is, find it and stick to it.Never get comfortable. I had a former colleague who never placed photos of his family or accomplishments in his cube and I asked him why. He said he is always prepared to walk out of the building with the items on his person at a moment’s notice. Speaking from experience, there’s nothing more humiliating or anxiety-inducing than taking the security assisted walk of shame with all of your belongings in a box and colleagues peeking above their cubes like prairie dogs to watch you walk the green mile. Work is a place where you should be as productive as possible; your family, spouse, hobbies, religion, proclivities, and creature comforts shouldn’t occupy the work space.Your manager is NOT to be trusted with personal information. Whether your mom has cancer, wife left you, your kids are suspended from school, or you’re late on the rent, these aren’t the people to share your most vulnerable moments with for two reasons; 1. They don’t have the power to do anything about them, and 2. They are more likely to report this things up the chain of command to use against you should it ever become convenient as a manipulation tactic. I know this oversimplifies things for the truly empathic, and supportive managers out there, but for the sake of generalities, let’s leave those 8 people out of this and err on the side of caution.Use your lunch hour as an opportunity to network with people within different departments to grow your customer base. Every employee has internal and external customers, and it will behoove you to learn how to cater to them. If you’re in sales, take someone in Dev Ops, Professional Services, R&D, or Customer Experience to lunch. You’ll learn all the horrible things sales people do that make their job a living hell, so you won’t perpetuate that. You’ll also forge some great individual relationships for emergencies when you need to phone a friend.Stay away from the office complainer. Every office has at least one, and he/she is a cancer on your outlook and productivity. Regardless of how valid their complaints are about the quality of the snacks, the scheduled All Hands meetings, the increased co-pays on the new insurance for annual enrollment, the way management is trying to screw us with the new Comp Plan, etc., the best thing to do is to keep your exposure to this individual AT. A. MINIMUM.Become a Subject Matter Expert in at least one or more topics within your department. This makes you indispensable among your peers and management, because they don’t want to(or can’t do) do the job of training the whole staff or answering all their questions.Volunteer to headline new products or services, and you’ll become more visible with leadership and ahead of the curve when those products/services become mandatory.Make your career decisions for the people who will attend your funeral one day; not the people in that office. Days, or even hours after your death, someone will be posting a requisition for your position, and your duties will fall on the shoulders of another. Make sure you spend your strategic decisions improving the quality of time with the people who will be crying at your funeral. This puts a whole lot of unnecessary office bullshit into perspective.If you’re in the US, talk to your colleagues about your salary. Corporations benefit from dwindling unions and individual, rather than collective bargaining by negotiating salary and compensation on an individual basis. Men, this is our opportunity to gain solidarity with women who work equally to ensure that they’re paid equally. White folks, this is an opportunity to ensure Black folks, Hispanics, and Natives are paid equally. This isn’t a zero-sum equation; corporations make enough money to pay us all equally. They have the luxury of not doing so. Hold their feet to the fire, or have them risk losing the war of retention.Be kind. Especially to the people who least deserve it. 9 times out of 10, they’re fighting prodigious personal battles, and the only place they can funnel their energy is at work. Be gentle, but don’t be a doormat either.Bring your authentic self to work. I’ve seen introverts, extroverts, flashy dressers, frumpy dressers, those gifted with supreme elocution, and those with the longest, strongest Southern drawl succeed in business, which proves one thing. Success doesn’t care how you show up; just that you show up. I wish you the best of luck on your journey!
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Is life at Goldman Sachs really bad?
Originally answered - Shilpi Roy's answer to Should I choose signNow or Goldman Sachs (India)?The answer is gonna be really long. Grab some snacks as it could take a while.I was the happiest person the day I was selected as a FTE (tech analyst position) at GS - a reputed fin-tech company which mostly hires tier-1 students, a dream for many. I heard from many people that GS offers package as high as 32lpa which was quite a big deal for me - or for anyone who might have been at my place.Then came the HR’s call. She offered me semester long internship in GS! I was glad that I don’t have to spend my last semester in college and will also earn some money. With the stipend as high as 75k and stay at Hilton hotel during intern, anybody is likely to go crazy and say “YES”.And so I did.The beginning (GS-Bengaluru office)Soon came 7th January. Day started off with amazing orientation and office visit. Then came the lunch buddy - GS assigns a buddy from your department to have lunch with you the day you join, let’s say he was Raghav (name changed).Raghav seemed to be a really smart guy. I asked him a few questions about GS being a fin-tech, is it easy to switch and other questions. He seemed to be out of place, not interested. A guy came who was an intern in a team in which Raghav used to work. He kept talking and giggling with him, completely ignoring my presence. Cool, maybe Raghav is a bad guy - who cares?Met with my manager and two other interns who were in the same department - GIR. He seemed like a chilled-out and thoughtful person. Let’s call him Rudra.Our whole department used to sit in a middle sized cabin which accommodated around 32–35 employees of GIR. My happiness knew no bounds! Great team, small cabin and friendly manager - what else could I ask for?Then came the next day. We were introduced to our team and had a lunch together. Oh no! Lunch here was not free - no big deal. Only 80rs/- per plate is affordable when you earn 75k per month, I thought.After having lunch, we began installing softwares required. Wait, you can’t install some softwares without manager’s permission. Fine! I messaged my manager and he granted the permission. He came later in the evening and gave 3 of us an interesting machine learning problem to solve - in a week, till we get our projects.He had three projects in mind, and he left it for us to decide which one we want to take. I took the one which I thought was more impactful and cool, also because we had a member of our team working for the project. My task was to integrate the backend stuff he wrote with the UI I was going to create. Also to help him with some of those backend stuffs later on.“You can take help from Varun, in case you need” said Rudra.So it began!1st MonthI started learning React.js for the UI I was going to implement from various websites. There were tons of tutorial there. After understanding some theory, I clicked on ‘try it on codepen’ - online editor.“You are restricted from using an external website - no permissions”What? I can’t even use some online editor. Okay that’s fine - we have pretty sensitive data in GS. Since it’s a finance based company, we have client data with us and user may copy and paste it online - someone might steal the data! All this made sense. ‘It’s fine, I’ll bring my own laptop tommorow’, I thought before leaving.I could see two teammates standing behind me from my peripheral vision. One who was writing the backend stuff for the project I was working upon, let’s call him Varun.Varun was a silent and sober guy - a hardworking one who speaks only when required. Another guy standing beside him was Raghav.“Hey!” I said in a low tone.“Did I do some crime? Why are these two here?” I wondered.“You brought your personal laptop, is everything fine here?” they asked.I told them about the restrictions. Raghav took my work PC and sent Rudra, my manager a request to approve codepen.I waited. One hour. Two hours. Codepen still not working. Fine for me since I have my own laptop. No worries.After 2 weeks Varun called me and started assigning tasks to do for the UI. I was full of enthusiasm and paid full attention to what he wanted. I started looking out for the cool libraries out there and found - material-ui.‘Perfect!’ I exclaimed.Started with the tasks, and was able to achieve the target next evening. It looked damn good! Varun will be happy. And so, I showed it to him.“Okay, font-size is a bit huge. And please change the app’s name - ELEGANT USER’S APP” (name changed). And so I did.“E-L-E-G-E-N-T U-S-E-R—S A-P-P”What a funny name, I thought. (The real one was funnier than the changed one)So days went, 1..2…3 and I completed 5–6 tasks. The basic UI (20%) was done. Then came Varun -“Shilpi, you did this using which library?”“Material-ui! It’s really good and..”“Okay, but make sure you can use it. Only specific libraries can be used at GS. Search xyz site and ensure if we can use it. If yes, proceed. Else use GS UI library”What did he just say. I worked on the UI for 2 weeks, and he is telling me now that I may not be able to use the material-ui library! No way..With my heart beating fast, I typed..X..Y….Z …..gs..comCtrl+F“M-A——T-E—-R—I—A”Boom! It’s there. I was delighted :)The next day I was late. I saw a message pop up. It was from Raghav.“Hey” it said.“Hey” I replied.“Please try to attend the daily standup. If you don’t, mail Rudra about your update :)” He replied.There hasn’t been a single day I was late. But okay, FINE.Then came the 5th day - friday. I got a message from Varun.‘Hi Shilpi, can you make another UI using GS-UI?’Oh No!. Again?.‘Just for the feel…we’ll show it to Rudra next week, he’ll choose which one we can use’*Slow Claps*Well played Varun. Why did he approve the material-ui one if he wanted it in GS-UI - I wondered.It’s fine, I can do it. I encouraged myself and went to the internal site - gs-ui-library. (name changed)Okay, fine. This looks good. Okay. Cool. Documentation.. documentation….uhmm.I searched for the whole day, no documentation. Just few codes and examples to understand how to display some component.Way uglier than material-ui - I thought. And a minute later, an evil idea came to my mind..“What if I make the UI using gs-ui-library so ugly that Rudra and Varun both reject! That would be great!”The next week on friday, I was done with gs-ui-library. My code was asked to be removed from codesandbox by Varun - it’s illegal to put GS’s internal code there. I could hear Rudra laughing about how he is afraid of the interns bringing personal laptops here, and what will happen if someone names a variable as “GIR” and put it on github.I showed Rudra the material-ui one. He was impressed.“This looks good! But don’t keep the name as ‘ ELEGANT USERS APP’, instead keep it as ‘THE USERS SEARCH APP’ ” (name changed)“But Rudra, Varun has asked me to..”“I will ask him. We will decide and tell you”Fine. Keep the name as ‘The bla-bla app’. I don’t care.Varun was already gone by the time.I smirked. I won’t show the UI I made using gs-ui-library to Rudra!Next day Varun was on my desk. He asked whether I showed both the UI’s.“No, actually I forgot to show the other..”“See, the people above us will probably ask why we didn’t use GS-UI. That’s why I am saying so. I have no problem with material-ui. Just ask Rudra if he is fine with it. Rudra…”“Yes, Varun” replied Rudra.And then he showed both the UI’s to him. The ugly one. The good one.“I think it looks great - the ‘gs-ui-library’ one!” Rudra exclaimed.I shouted in my mind - “How can he..!”“See Shilpi, we don’t have any problem using material-ui one but the people for whom we are making the app will ask why we didn’t use the internal-gs library. Okay, tell me one thing - it does have all the components you require, right?”“Yes, Rudra” I sighed.“Seems like Shilpi wanted to use material-ui, haha” Rudra giggled and looked at Varun. I could hear the giggling from one if the two interns from behind - Tejas (name changed).He was also working on a UI, along with some backend stuff. He was using ‘gs-ui-library’ from day one. And so, he giggled.Rudra -1 .. Shilpi - 0This was the first time I went home feeling sad. Why didn’t they tell me 2 weeks ago? Now I will have to work on the other one. And the library has no documentation.Next week , Varun decided to keep the name as “ELEGENT-USERS-APP”. He refused Rudra.Varun -1.. Rudra- 0So I went back to my desk and began.“g-s-u-i-l-i-b-r-a-r-y” I typed.Gs-ui-library was a really terrible library. No documentation, made by mixture of other available libraries online. It was like an accidental product of some cross-breeding. A scientific failure.Anyways, I somehow learnt basic features which I could implement using the library. On the other hand, my machine was damn slow - for a reason I didn’t know.“Why are you using vs code? How did you get it!” asked Rudra who saw me coding on vscode.“I like it- it’s really good for react. Installed it from the store.”“Haha, use intellij, okay!” Rudra said in a serious tone.Wow. After making me work with the gs-ui-library, now he is snatching away the editor I love. Cool.I still continued with vs code. Varun was totally fine with it.I went to drink a glass of water. Didn’t bring my bottle that day. So took a ‘visitor’s cup’ from inside the drawers.“Ma’am, you can’t drink in that. It’s only for visitors” said a staff guy who saw that I was about to drink water from the visitor’s cup.I looked at him in shock.“Oh, it’s ok for today you can use it..Ma’am” he replied.Great. Block websites - facebook, gmail, codepen. Take my material-ui away. Don’t allow me to use vs-code. And also, don’t let me drink water at peace!I was pissed off. Huh!2nd MonthSo I started working on the integration part. Meanwhile we used to have meetings in which we were told about GIR and it’s functions. Rudra used to tell us about how fun the NAPA training is going to be, and how we will start hiding our id cards after the event.I completed the integration part in a week or so. Gave a weekly demo to Rudra.Next week was going to be a demo with Monica’s team (name changed). The finance guys for whom we were building the ‘ELEGANT USERS APP’. Varun was happy that I had completed the integration part and added 2 more features to implement.- feature1 & feature2Before the demo, we had a meeting with Monica just a week before. Rudra, Varun and I gathered in a room.“So Shilpi, how’s the work going? Are you liking it - the UI stuff? Aren’t you bored?” Rudra asked.“Hehe.. Actually yeah it’s a little boring. I hope backend stuff starts soon!” I honestly replied.“You know UI people make the most money.” Rudra smirked.“No, that’s a lie. Backend people make more money.” I replied.“Shilpi, that’s the case of technical firms. In financial firms like us, UI people earn more bonus.” said Varun.Soon came Monica. Varun and Monica proceeded on what she wants and what actually we have. It was a debate between them and I listened.Since the lunch time was over, Rudra and I went to the food-court outside to have one.“Shilpi, you know I was like you. The silent guy in the room. If someone else was at your place he would have asked a lot of questions! ”“I think it’s better to listen Rudra, than argue. I didn’t have much idea about what they were talking and the talk was mostly concerning Varun.”“See..it’s good very good. But to be at a place like GS…you know! The world is very mean, Shilpi. You need to speak more than you do work here! Many people don’t know much but they’ll get ahead of you because they speak. I was like you when I joined GS. In the group discussion round, when everyone was debating.. I just sat at the corner. HR came and asked each of us individually. If she hadn’t done that, I mayn’t be sitting here today”I gave it some thought. He was right.Some days later feature1 stopped working. I had no idea why, I was using an excellent library for feature1, of-course an external one. Varun himself has asked me to use an external for that case since we don’t have a gs library for that.But now. It wasn’t working.It took me a week to include the library - react-bootstrap-table2 with the project along with the features it had, and use it. And some magic happened. Now feature1 stops working. Damn!I woke up the whole night - till 4 am to make the feature1 work. The remote desktop worked very slow. In GS, we are not given laptops for security purposes. So we have to use remote desktop.It was damn slow but I was patient. I kept on trying and trying till I fell asleep early in the morning. Woke up around 12.An hour before demo with Monica’s team, I told Varun about it. He said it’s fine, we will show the demo without it.Tik…tikk….I wasn’t satisfied. I worked damn hard for 45 min and was able to make feature1 work!We went to give the demo. Varun pulled out a chair and sat before a PC.“Hi Monica!”“Hey Varun!”And so it started. The demo. The UI I made. The features I implemented. The integration. My two month’s hard work.All of them was presented by our VP, Mr.Varun!“Uhm…but we don’t need feature 1 and 2, Varun. You can remove it” said Monica.W-H-A-T! What did she just say. I went an hour back in time.I am sweating. I can feel I am nervous. This has to go good. I know well about the project, and I will make the feature-1 work! I will!Yes, I did. Only to lose the presentation as well as the feature.I rushed out of the room with the unhappy face which no one bothered about in the meeting room. I was silent and in hurry, it was weekly demo too today.“Haashh.. It went great!” exclaimed Varun who barely ever talked to me. Since like 1962!“Okay, but we have a weekly demo too!”The weekly demo got cancelled. Varun proceeded to tell me how we don’t need feature-1 and all the new features which Monica wanted. I remembered them all. One of them was a feature-X which was not possible technically. I tried making Varun understand and he did, after quite a while.Then came the mid-semester exam and I finally got a break!3rd MonthI went to my home after holidays. After 2 months, 1,40,000 was credited to my account. I bought clothes for mom and dad. I was delighted and ready to go back!Came back to office happily. Compiled the code.React-bootstrap-table2 library code - gone. Whole UI code changed in a week. My 2 week’s effort - 1 week for the library and 2 nd for other features went to ashes.Just in ONE SINGLE WEEK.~Varun committed the code 2 hours ago~~Varun committed the code yesterday~~Varun….~And so on.Varun started using an internal gs-ui-library library instead of react-bootstrap-table2. Instead of giving proper review comments, he changed my code by himself. Some backend stuff also came to me.I fetched the code from repo, the one Varun had implemented. And tried to understand.“You just have to implement feature-b-xyz, no need to go through whole code” he said.Fine.I added a new feature. Compiled and checked. Everything was working fine. Committed the code.Next day I came. Compiled the code.‘EXCEPTION THROWN’‘FAILED’And my PC hangs. For no reason why.I checked the code - it was changed. The integration part was changed. Feature XYZ was changed. And it stopped working.~Varun committed the code an hour ago~Why did he commit a code that fails? I wondered.This started happening daily. I had no idea why was this happening.The next series of days started with me coming late - 11:50, 12 or later than that. I used to mail Rudra about the update. Sometimes I was able to attend standup, sometime I wasn’t able to. My health started deteriorating.Everyday, Varun used to commit some changes. And it took a hell lot of time to update the project in intellij, go through his changes and do other changes. I was pretty much frustrated.Took 2 wfhs in 2 weeks. Logged in late many times. Had to push myself from bed everyday. Devoted my time to video games than gs work. Lost interest.Then I was given some backend part. I took WFH a day I wasn’t feeling well and learnt about apis stuff. Still some part of me wanted to do well and take interest in the work genuinely.We - all 3 interns received a mail from Rudra which we could never forget. Rudra had showed his ‘Rudra’ roop. The mail said -“You guys are not taking the work seriously. WFHs are not to be taken for granted. So many WFHs and late loggings. Not at all serious about your work. You guys need to have deliverables by the end of this month.I don’t care, work for your career not mine.”I was shocked. The friendly, giggling Rudra! I remembered the first time I met him. And the mail was quite a shock to all of us.Late loggings were targeted at me.WFHs for another one.But… Tejas? What did he do?As far as I remember, he was a hard working guy. Always on time. Never missed a standup. What did he do to receive the mail?Days after that, Varun took four wfhs in a row. Rudra was quiet. Nisha only came like twice in a week, Rudra said nothing.Why us? Why the interns? I wondered.One day I stayed at office till 8pm. I could hear Rudra talking about ‘The Elegant User’s App’ over a phone call.“We are building it again since the last UI was in angular. We wanted it in React.” he said to somebody over the call.Throughout my whole intern, I had one doubt in my mind.The app on which I was working upon was already built by someone and was functional too. But my manager wanted it to be built again since he wanted us to use a new technology.What’s the difference even if angular was used? What’s the need of rebuilding the app again from scratch? I wondered.And the next words I heard shattered me.“Yeah, Varun is working with some intern on ‘The Elegant User’s App’.”What did he say?The last two months were fully devoted to the UI. I went back in time.“Shilpi, if you want any help - Varun would be able to for this project.I was made to believe that it was an independent project, which it never was. I worked my ass off for three months only to hear that I am ‘some intern’ working under Varun and helping him building the UI.I got depressed.It was Holi’s festival - the festival of colours. I never really celebrated holi, hated to be coloured all over. We had a group for our department, and I wished everyone a “Happy Holi!”.Tejas replied with a “Happy holi” too.“Happy Forest Day” - stated an image I received on whatsapp. It was from Rudra. On the whatsapp group. This was his reply for “Happy Holi”.It's okay, don't respect our festival. But atleast don't disrespect it. Why was there even a need for reply?Needless to say, I didn’t go to office that day as sign of rebel (we didn’t have holiday on holi). Varun was already doing WFH. The “Happy Forest Day” frustrated me.Why Rudra why. You are better than that.“Niharika (name changed) is leaving GS” somebody whispered.Niharika, a very smart lady was in our department. She was mentoring an intern and sounded quite knowledgeable. Her sudden decision of leaving GS came as a shock to everyone.I had a last chat with her only when everyone was away for lunch. She had refused her farewell too I guess. She came to me and we had a decent chat. I asked her the reason of leaving. She wanted to switch the team maybe but it was taking a long time. Sweet and smart is all I could say for her. She had done work with JPMC & Morgan Stanley (US) and held a green card. A dedicated worker.After the lunch, she had a long meeting with Rudra. She was too firm with her decision.After she left, someone told me she bitched about many people in the team - specially Rudra. I was really sad. GS lost a good employee that day. And maybe, due to politics.Next day, GS was having an orientation for all new campus hires. It was one hell of a day. World-class hotel stay and world-class orientation.Varun was going out to the new office for 2 weeks. For some work.4th monthBefore Varun had left for the new office, he had asked me to attend telephonic standups for our team from 3–3:30. Now I used to attend 2 standups - the department one, and the team one. Full time waste activities!He had also asked me to get details of a task from Raghav and get it completed. I messaged him and he said he will be there at my desk in 5 min. Well, he never came. I asked him 2–3 times more to which he sent me a random link. I was disheartened and had nothing to do for 2 weeks.One day Rudra called me to fix some errors which he wasn’t able to fix by himself. He said he spent the whole night trying to fix those but didn’t know how to.I came to his desk. Those were linting errors!After having 10 years of experience, and you don’t even know what they are! Even if you know, please try to google. He was not getting what those line numbers represent. I explained him everything and fixed those.Soon, we got mails from hr regarding our joining dates and NAPA training, which is held in New York. I told the HR about my case, that I have courses left in college and I won’t be able to join on 3rd june.“Can I go to the training and join later after 12th july - when my courses are done” I asked.“No, you need to join as FTE. We will process your visa in june and you’ll go during july first week”“Okay” I replied.“Try to make your college understand, it’s important” is all she said.Next day, I refused. My college will never agree for me to take 2 week vacation during summer term.Rudra received a call from HR. I knew it was regarding me.He took me outside the cabin and asked why did I opted out of NAPA training. I told him everything - how my degree would be affected. He was ready to give WFH for 2 months. I was shocked. Again.Rudra was the most unpredictable mysterious guy I ever met. He was good and bad, at the same time. 2 months is a long time - and he agreed to give me WFH! He earned my respect.Then there was second meeting with Rudra. He told me everything - the work I’ll do as an FTE. Also, he never left a single moment he could get to brag about himself.“You will be working under Varun. He will be the team lead. Your work is XYZ-AHSH-PPOS…..”“Be as mature as me. I can make complex things simple easily. Learn it from me.” he said.Varun. No!!The silent guy. Who took away all the presentations. Even during our team standups over calls, he used to answer when some guy asked me about the project. My code was changed everyday. All the torture I faced last month. And now- I’ll be working under him. Wow.I told Rudra - how my code was changed everyday, how I was not told about the changes Varun did in the backend and still expected my code would run successfully. He listened to me for a while and then said -“When I was a NAPA, I used to ensure that I get 0 review comments”“I don’t get review comments, Rudra. My code gets changed, and it’s hard to understand it everyday without help of Varun.”“It’s a good thing, right? You will learn something from what the change he does. It’s good for you.”Cool. I have to look at the new code and somehow “learn without doing”. Interesting.I worked till 9 pm that day. Before Rudra left, he smiled at me sarcastically.“Shilpi, still working?”“Yeah Rudra, I came little late today.”“Varun changing your code and you changing his code.!”“Yes. That’s what is happening.”And then, he laughed maniacally.This was not the first time he did this. He used to laugh at me sarcastically many times after giving me the UI project.Next week, Varun was here. My virtual desktop was not working and I had no idea why. Called help-desk 5 times that day.“REBOOT!”“TRY IT FROM A DIFFERENT MACHINE!”“IT SHOWS ‘AVAILABLE’ ON MY MACHINE!”was all the response I got from 5 different help-desk-assistants.Took a day off the next day. Saw a mail. Varun had given presentation to our MD that day. UI presentation, which was supposed to be given by me.Next week, same schedule. Help-desk people failed miserably.I tried remote desktop and was able to open my outlook. My inbox was full of -“DISK CAPACITY OVER 95%! CLEAN IT!”I got it. But in order to clean it, I had to login to the virtual computer which I wasn’t able to. It was a deadlock.Soon I was assigned a new virtual computer. My whole local setup - was erased.My whole enthusiasm had turned to ashes at that point. Came late, went early. Stopped attending stand-ups. Late Loggings. WFHs. OOO. No updates. No weekly updates. Nothing to do next since Raghav didn’t help. Frustrated as hell.Our department was hiring more and more people. I had nowhere to sit. No one to talk to.The only friend I had in bengaluru left 2 weeks ago.Please note that I’ve nothing against GS. The management there is really good, they care about their employees. I don’t think any company could’ve given me 2 months WFH and I do respect Rudra a lot for that!The experience may vary from person to person, someone may find GS a very good place, based on the traits he/she has or the team he is working with. But for a shy person like me, who loves to code sitting at the corner of the room - GS is not the place. It was me who was not able to adapt to the culture there.This answer was written by me when I was still an intern. I had no idea what this could do to my life.Next day after I wrote this, I was called by the Head HR of Employee Relations in GS - Devika. I thought she had called me in order to discuss why am I choosing signNow over Goldman but this wasn’t the case.“I read your answer on Quora about Goldman..”“I’ll remove it!” I replied with the speed of light.“No..I don’t want you to take it down, Just tell me the issues you had”And she pretended to listen. Both of us knew why she called me here - to take the answer down.“See, these days many people are on social media and it is affecting how people see us. Probably, some interns wouldn’t want to work with us after reading the answer. Therefore I want you to remove it”“Also, please remember this meeting is confidential. DO NOT tell anyone from your team about it!” she said just before I left.And that was it. I deleted this answer.I saw Rudra’s text on my whatsapp. He asked whether I have a desk to sit, and when will I signNow on my desk. I knew something was fishy since he never ever bothered about.I finished the work and went home.The next day, I woke up to 10 calls from the HR and lots of messages. I asked what happened.I told her I have already deleted the answer, but there was something else. I wasn’t able to login from home. My remote desktop was taken away from me and I had no idea why.And then, came Monday.13th May 2019The day started off with my phone full of Devika’s texts. She insisted that I directly come to the meeting room first instead of going to the GIR cabin.I went to her cabin where she was sitting. And soon the harassment started.“What was your motive behind putting such kind of answers on quora, tell me what was in your mind”“I am sorry, Devika. I’ve already taken them down.”“Didn’t you knew about the firm’s policy? You knew it very well right? Still you put the experience on Quora?”“I was frustrated. So much that it didn’t occur to me at that time. But yes, I knew it.”She wrote it down on a paper.“You put it on social media, and don’t expect your manager to read it? Wake up! Everyone in your dept knows what you did okay! You are always saying that ‘don’t inform my manager about it’.. you know what, infact Rudra only informed us about this. He was the one who forwarded the answer.”I sighed. He knew about it the whole time. Still acted as friendly on thursday.“You can take action against me if you want to. I can’t say anything else.”“We are a very big firm. Many people are there writing these kind of negative - one sided answers. We don’t care”If she didn’t care, why was I sitting here?“I have talked to both Rudra and Varun. Now I know about their perspectives too. Did you inform your manager that you were on leave? No, you didn’t.”“Yes, I was really depressed and woke up at 5 eve..”“You were completely one-sided in your answer. Such a judgemental answer it was! You never wrote what you did!” she exclaimed.“Devika, I did. I wrote I was depressed and was late for standups. I wrote that I took WFH and..”“That was completely in another way!” she interrupted.And then she gave me a tough look.“I have tracked down your whole information, when do you come and leave, wfh etc. I don’t think it’s too much. You were also 1 hour late on the GS event, I heard”I wasn’t. What was she saying?“No, I was a minute late. You can ask my friend who was sitting there.”“Also, you were absent on 4 presentations Varun gave, right?”I was shocked. What did she just say? I was present in 3 of them, I remembered. Now I felt something was really wrong. Varun probably gave her false information about me.“No, I was there for 3 of them” I replied in a low voice.“And you weren’t allowed to give?” She raised her eyebrows.“I didn’t ask him, neither did he offer.. he just took the chair and..Did Varun said I was absent? I wasn’t!” I defended myself.“Oh yes you weren’t, I know. When did I say you were absent? You are just misunderstanding me” she replied and wrote down some points.And now she started lying too about things she said earlier! I was shocked to the core.“They said bad things about me, didn’t they.” I asked.“No, infact they praised you for technical aspects. ‘She did all her tasks which we assigned.’ ‘Used to find solutions of the problem till the very end.’” she read it from the paper she had.But what about the other aspects? I was sure they had said something worse about me. I wondered what was that except me coming late.“GS-UI-LIBRARY!!” she exclaimed.“This is what you wrote about the library. Seriously!”I looked down. I couldn’t say anything except sorry.“Rudra even let you choose jersey for cricket match, didn’t he?”“Yes he did.” I sighed.“What you think what made your experience bad? Was it yourself? Why put it on social media, and didn’t contact us. What about the HCM?”I was late and silent. The only faults.“Does anybody in your team knows about it?” she asked hoping that nobody knows.“No, just me and the interns.” I replied.“And what did you write? Niharika left because of politics..? Did you talk to her? Who told you?” she almost shouted.“I got to know that from a teammate.” I replied in low tone.“So you will put anything you hear on social media??” she tried to overpower me.“If I were your signNow HR and I read this answer on Quora.. you know I’d have..” Devika scolded in a rude tone.She would have taken my offer back. That’s what she meant.“I have already deleted it , Devika. I said sorry, what else can I do? ” I almost cried.“These things never happened with me at signNow. But people here..”I broke down. Couldn’t speak much.“What even if you deleted? 1000s of people saw it. All the people on your floor saw it. They may have copied it, downloaded it. It had so confidential information!”“And yeah, put this conversation there too!!” She said in a very rude tone.“I won’t. You know I won’t.” I whispered.“Anyways Shilpi, now it’d be too awkward for you to go there. We have already stopped your remote access. We don’t want you to work anymore. Since you’ve already rejected the offer too, no discussion related to it. You can submit the id card to me.”“Okay.”I cried a lot in the cab. Rudra knew it all the time. Why didn’t he himself fire me instead of sending a rude HR. And those two also lied a lot about me. The tone of HR was totally different when I met her on Thursday. And today she was really harassing me.It took me a while to understand - all this was planned by Rudra. He choose the rudest and senior-most HR to deal with my case and harass me, just to get back at me.2 interns were joining today and space was very less in the small GIR cabin. And he knew very well I completed all my work the last week itself. Win-Win situation for Rudra!Varun and Rudra lied to HR. It was evident from the way she treated me. I was made to be feel like a garbage - just because I was late at the office!I cried for an hour. And then, I edited and restored this answer.Next day I came to know none of the interns or people in my team knew about this! I was fired secretly. The HR lied the whole time.All because Rudra didn’t want to see my face in GIR!Do I fear them? Not at all.“I will survive, Tracy thought. I face mine enemies naked, and my courage is my shield.” ― Sidney Sheldon (if tomorrow comes)Many people want me to take this answer down or go anonymous. I have done nothing wrong. Those who have, they should hide their faces behind “anonymous” mask.If GS has some problem with the answer, they are free to take action against me. I am not bonded by any legal agreement and atleast deserved decent exit process.
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Why did you leave your last job?
I Still remember the date i joined Tech Mahindra IMS June 5 2014.. After failing in several interviews. Finally cracked it in a Pool Campus in KIIT, OrissaReason for Leaving??Not one several reasons, I have joined as a Fresher with minimum salary for a btech completed can get around 227000/12 = 18916.6666667After tax and all. I was getting around 16k. And served TechM for 2.6 years. In that I got little bit of hike and got upto 25k per month. In the year of 2015 my sister got a accident pelvic fracture. Around 16 bones in pelvic area got cracked and she was in hospital for more than 1. 5 years.I was not earning much so that I can help my father in this financial matter. My parents got diabetes due to tension and all and what my family required is financial support. Due to all of this i was not able to concentrate on study and all. I had a bond with TechM for 2 years and I can't leave as the bond break charges was 1.5 L. Despite of good training i was put into a support project where your technical learning is almost zero.Life was becoming hell day by day. In night shift i was feeling like someone kept me in jail and I don't have way to get out of that. Use to study in office some times one day my manager said in Hindi ( kya padh te rehte ho din bhar kuch bhi to nahin hota he Tum se). I would have told at that time there is nothing we can do as we are there to run some specific commands related to applications and max of the people did not have idea why we are doing like this.Loved someone enough, She is my first love.. Proposed her multiple times not got any clear ans. She moved to pune and even i also moved to pune after her in June 2016. That time i just completed 2 years in TechM. In pune she just started avoiding me.I was literally begging god ,for this reason I came to Pune ? To see all this ?. And in my home my mother's health was also not well father had diabetes and no one was there to take care of him and my sister aswell. My father got some loans aswell for my sister's operation. At that time financial condition was too bad. Broke my RD of 1.5 Lakh and gave to my father for closing the loan. Locked My self in a room for 2 days.People say mard ko dard nahin hota, It's not true .we have also emotions .Cried like hell.Didn't had anything. Noted down the things to concentrate and things to forget.Prepared for some certification exam cleared it. Then applied for several company. Finally got selected in one of the best /great place to work i.e SAP. I was so happy that day. Got unexpected hike and doing meaningful work.Everyone has a dream they don't want their parents to think like something they want but they can't afford or their son/daughter can't get them those things.After joining SAP. I fell proud of my decision to move out of Pune i have miserably failed in love but finally i gave that happiness to my parents and sister they deserve. Now at least I can say to my parents let me know what you want, don't think of price and all i can manage now. I am just happy seeing them smiling . Even i am still looking for more stability so that I can take my sister outside India for the treatment as she is not completely recovered.
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What are some tips for driving a long distance? I will be driving over 4,500 km from Vancouver to Toronto.
I am going to assume that you want to do the trip quickly as opposed to a pleasure trip where you are willing to take in some attractions along the way.Preparation: make sure your vehicle is serviced, and that your tires are in good shape (proper winter tires in season). Plan you route, but allow flexibility. Obtain maps covering your intended route, or a recent road atlas, even if you will be using a GPS. Prepare some entertainment—you will be out of the range of decent radio reception in some stretches, depending on your route. I load a couple of MP3 players with some playlists, and podcasts.In general, the Trans-Canada Highway provides a straight forward route. However if going to Toronto (as opposed to say Ottawa), you should consider going through USA for part of the way. I like to drop down across the border from Winnipeg, head to Duluth, and continue through the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, crossing back into Ontario at Port Huron/Sarnia.If you do take the all-Canadian route, I would strongly suggest taking the northern route through Cochrane. It is slightly longer, but almost always faster. The road is flatter, most of the traffic is trucks, and they tend to drive consistently at about 100 km/h. The route along the north shore of Superior has far more car traffic, and you are likely to encounter some cars driving at the (legal speed limit) of 90, with a string of traffic accumulating behind them.If you want to make good time, and yet not wear yourself out, limit your driving to 10, or at most 12 hours per day, including stops. Make reasonably frequent stops, but keep them short. I tend to eat lightly at lunch, buying something where there is counter service rather than sit-down service. If you can, get on the road by 6:00 without eating, and stop for breakfast after an hour or so. You will be able to cover a good distance before car traffic becomes heavier. Quit at around 6 in the evening, have a good meal, relax, and plan where you think you will get to the following evening, and select a few motels closer and farther from this destination. I tend not to make a hotel reservation until around 4pm, so I will have a better idea where I wish to stop, and make a reservation then. Some people prefer to make their reservations in the evening for the next day, in the comfort of their motel room. Some hotels allow you to cancel your reservation before 4pm but others require a day’s notice, particularly those that offer better rates for advanced booking.
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What is it like to transition gender socially, legally, and/or physically?
I'm Elizabeth, I'm a 35 yr old M-F trans woman. Being trans, having this unique quality has been both a nightmare and a blessing. It's something that I wish desperately was not innate, I would have so much rather been like all the "normal" people. But what's so odd, is that as much as I fought, hated and denied this I don't honestly think I would have it taken away (if it were even possible). I have known that I was a girl as far back as I can remember, ever since I had any conscious thoughts of self. I think I was probably 3 or 4. Back then it was not like it is now. Back then I was just me, I hadn't discovered yet that my physical self would never ever naturally match my inner self. I hadn't yet grown to understand the stigma, the fear and outright dislike for people like me that our culture has. I didn't yet know how many people that say they love and care about me that would walk away and turn their back on me because I wasn't what they wanted me to be. I didn't begin my transition until the age of 32. I spent about 25 years trying to not be what I was/am, hide what I was/am, and hate what I was/am. It was terrible, I don't know any other way to describe it. I wouldn't wish that type of existence on my worst enemy, it's too cruel. What's funny, is that most men, big burly tough men, would look at me and think that I'm some sissy weakling. Well I can tell you with certainty that none of those tough burly guys could handle even a week of what I dealt with. At about the age of 5 or so, my parents realized that I wasn't going through a phase... In the 80's this was not at all considered ok or really even known about. So they took parental action; we moved to a different part of the city, made me change schools, made me play sports, made me hang out with new people, punished me anytime I would act feminine, forced me into the church, etc... So in a months time I went from being me to this whole new life and expectation. It was so confusing, I didn't get why this was happening but as time passed I came to understand what their motivation for doing what they did. They thought that they could change me, they thought they could condition me to be the boy I was supposed to be... I did my best to please them, even grew to hate myself. I tried praying it away... That's how I learned there is no god or that if there is one, he's a dick. I grew to be very much internalized. I kept the real me hidden and everyday would project and portray a person I wasn't. I sank into depression, started abusing drugs and alcohol as a means of numbing it and essentially gave up on trying to be a happy productive person. I did graduate HS, got a bachelors degree in marketing and even managed to be pretty damn successful professionally. But it was all an act, I was never really there I just went through the motions. I even got married (ARGH!!!). It didn't even last a year... I told her about the real me well before marrying but like my parents she thought she could change me... Nope. I started seeing my therapist for gender dysphoria about 10 months into the marriage. We separated about 2 weeks after that and divorced about 3 months later. Not long after that I began hormones. So as far as sexual orientation goes... Transition or hormones never changed anything about me, they just made it easier for me to act on my interests. Early in life I only pursued girls, I was sincerely attracted to them so I didn't have to act. It's just that I would always come to realize that my interest in a girl was really me wanting to be around someone I saw as me. Intimacy was always not forced but it never ever was something that I really desired. During sex, I always had to mentally take myself to the place that really turned me on. You see, for boys during puberty they have what's described as "wet dreams", where they have sexual dreams. Now, none of the ones I had were ever "wet" per say, but in every sexual dream or subconscious intimate act was I never the male involved. I was always the girl being intimate with a boy. So when I was with girls, I had to mentally imagine that I was the girl in the act... It was weird. So as far as boys go, I was never uncomfortable with physical contact with boys, I could tell which ones were attractive and which ones were not and seeing them in various states of undress never repulsed me. I was never drawn to boys at this time or acted intimate with any. After about 5 months on hormones things began to change. I'm not sure what exactly caused it, but one day I woke up and things had changed. That's the best way I can put it. I just knew that what I wanted was boys. It was just an internal "knowing". Transitioning won't turn you into a completely different person mentally. It does have effect on emotions and your body, but that's about it. It did drastically change my relationships with EVERYONE that I knew, which was the hardest thing to try to adapt to. My outlook on humanity became much more negative, my anxiety rose considerably, my daily routines changed and I lost a lot of friends. Now, all that being said, I am the happiest (with myself) that I have ever been. I know that I have made the right decision for my life, I just hate that my happiness has to have such a price (literally and figuratively). I'm the healthiest I've ever been, my depression has lifted considerably and I love who I see in the mirror now. I'm deep in transition, I feel like can handle whatever comes next. But I still have bouts of difficult dysphoria, I don't think ever goes away completely. And I still have much to learn.
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What did you do when you were fired from a job? How you have managed the disaster? How long did it take to recover?
About 18 hours.I was a Financial Manager for a Fortune 500 company. The day after the annual Financial results were submitted, my boss tells me that I have a meeting to go to at 8:30 in the morning. I tell her I have a project kickoff meeting at 9 and I need to get some prep work done for that meeting, she says which was completely unlike her, drop it and come to my office.Walking to her office I remember the thoughts going through my head, they must have something really important for me to do. I was on special projects, I was managing people, I thought I was doing a good job.Well, it was 2009 and they were trimming personnel, and my position was eliminated. That was the nicest way to say they didn't like me. I was absolutely devastated. Couldn't think, couldn't do anything, I went to my 9 a.m. project kickoff meeting, and I notice that the vp's eyes were wide open as to why are you here? But he didn't say anything to the group. I went through that our meeting, conscious not to take too many responsibilities out of the meeting, and then went back to my office.My boss told me she would keep me on board for 2 months to see if I can find another internal position, and to train the three other people who are taking my responsibilities.. They were laying off 10% of the people, so that was an uphill battle. She said once the other three people were trained, and she knew that was going to take only a week or two not the two months, she said you can come in and go whenever you want. She was trying to be nice, and that was highly appreciated.I went out for lunch, and did not come back that day. I ended up doing a lot of thinking, I went to the library and got a copy of what color is your parachute?( great book for helping you find a job)Aside from leaving for lunch, going to the library, I really don't remember anything else from that day. I talked to my wife at around 2 p.m., I ended up getting home at around 4 or 5, we had a quiet dinner, I was really depressed.At 6:20 the next morning, my alarm went off. Perhaps I had a hangover, perhaps I was still a little depressed. My wife said she would get the kids ready for school, and so I sat in bed. I took assessment of what my life was up to that point in time. I convinced myself that I had one hell of a great life. The company that just fired me gave me 3 years of living in Europe with my family. They gave me so much experience and knowledge post MBA that I know a whole lot about a whole lot of things that other people did not know. I think I stayed in bed for another hour. Woke up showered breakfast got to work around 9:30, and I felt great.I set up meetings with everyone as transferring work too, I went on the online system to apply for whatever jobs were close to my career path, there were none, so I went with things that looked good. For the next week I spent around four hours a day working on my current job, and about 6 hours a day trying to find my next job.The job hunt was frustrating, my town is a bit small, and there are not a whole bunch of positions available for an upper level Financial Manager with a background in mechanical engineering and construction. The two months came and went, my boss kept me on for another week after another department was teetering about whether or not to hire me. They did not. I got my parting gift for working for 10 years with the company. My peers threw me a going-away party, that was nice. That was the last time I saw them.I eventually found out that I can make a lot of money being a part-time CFO for small companies. I charge by the hour, I solve their complex financial problems, which when I was working for the fortune 500 company was a normal day occurrence.I started working for my family's company, investing in real estate. Soon I did not need the Consulting work, but I did it because it was fun. 6 years later, I have 250 tenants, spread out over three states, I still have one or two Consulting clients, and I'm the happiest I've ever been.
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Did your boss/employer ever ask you to sleep with him/her in exchange for a promotion or a raise in pay? How did it happen?
Yes, it has happened with me.I worked as a senior research analyst in a MNC investment bank based at Bangalore.Around two years back I got a call from a Gurgaon based firm with similar firm but better pay and degisnation. After due process I moved Gurgaon and joined the firm. It was a smaller firm so I got to know most of the people in and out very quickly.Now I am native of Chandigarh and has somewhat attractive features, I stand at 5.4 with good build. After six months of joining, we had a annual retreat kind in one of hotels in Gurgaon for all the employees.The firm had a very young partner who was south indian but was well built and behaved. I had done couple of projects with him so knew well and found him hitting on me. He was around 40, married with kids.On that night he was being extra nice to me and keeping one or the other discussion going while I was with him. We both had somewhat drunk, but I could sense him noticing my body in a different way. I was around 27, not that I did mind his attention but the way he looked at me, I knew he is after some real thing.During the dinner or dance I could sense he gazing at my bums or peeping into my skirt. Around 11 when people started leaving in cabs and boys were busy in gulping down the free alcohol. He approached me and asked if I could accompany him outside for a drink.Now this was a terrace on 10+floor with darkness around and city visible. We both were out and I noticed him looking at my cleavage or navel, I was dressed in two piece skirts with open abdomen.He told me how good I looked and etc which he had done in past plus he was drunk so I was cool. Plus with South Indian men I had been in similar conditions so it was cool. Untill he offered if I want an opportunity to work from our London office for atleast 6 months for some project. I said yes and he placed his hand on my waist and looking into my eyes said he wanted to fuck me. Now that was too bold for me, not that I was a virgin or would have mind sex but I had neven thought of it that way. I thought a bit and noded. He started kissing me right there. I told him to move somewhere but he had animal Instinct into him, he took me into a corner and made me suck him. He fucked me right there in the terrace by lifting my skirt. We left together and spent the rest of the night in Westin Gurgaon where he booked another room. He fucked me 5 times that night.I eventually got what I had wanted and we made out a few times more.I might have been a bad girl but I know if not me some other girl would have been writting the same thing.P.S. — This is posted from London.
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