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all right good morning and welcome to this week's edition of encompass live oh I am your host Kristen burns here at the Nebraska Library Commission encompass live is the Commission's a weekly online event where a webinar a webcast an online show nobody can seem to agree on what the terminology is or what terminology they like people have definite opinions on that but whatever you want to call us we are a show that we are here live every Wednesday morning at 10:00 a.m. Central Time if you're unable to join us on Wednesday mornings that's fine we do record our shows every week and all of our recordings are available on our website and I'll show you where that is at the end of today's show you can go to get the archives of our shows and put up the recording into our YouTube account if there's any slides or presentations they go into SlideShare or whatever someone may have their slides up there and they're any websites mentioned during the show to collect them in our library Commission's 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show actually and all sorts of different varying topics presentations interviews book reviews mini training sessions basically our only criteria is that it's library related somehow either it's something libraries are doing on the library sharing their experiences something or some resource of some sort that a library could potentially use we're very broad with that so you'll sometimes see some says presentations that might not sound like they have anything to do with libraries but if you know you pay attention and see we're talking about you'll see where we connect it to them in some way so everything is somehow library related we have guest speakers come in sometimes from outside the Library Commission but we also have our own staff that do presentations regularly and that's we have this morning to my left here if Craig left Roth who is our technology innovation librarian here at the Nebraska Library Commission and you did this session when was it earlier this year yes yeah a few months ago at went doing one over at one of our system meetings events this is an event and we asked ment on the show to do it here to share more broadly about how to use cloud services cloud computing it's a big I was gonna say buzzword but that makes it sound bad okay it is but it's very useful if you can figure out how to use it and what you can use it for you and in your library you can probably you know get a lot of use out of it and save some money it's not what you been doing so I'm just gonna hand over to Craig to take it away and tell us all about how to cloud compute okay yes okay so as we mentioned cloud storage is kind of a buzzword it's basically a new term for something that's been happening for quite a long time at a basic level of cloud storage really means you're just saving your data or your files on someone else's machine so it's not necessarily it's out in the cloud or it's something that hasn't been seen before it's essentially instead of putting it on my laptop or my desktop in front of me I'm putting it on machines it might be dispersed through a pretty wide geographical range I think that's something that people don't even understand the definition they think the cloud is somewhere some ephemeral thing out there but it's no it's just another computer you gotta have everything on a computer somewhere it's just how you get to it that it's not physically in front of you equipment yeah absolutely so basically this is my pithy definition it's replacing your hard drive with the our drive and that's all there it really entails as I said it's basically not new it's been going on for quite a while and actually in the early days of computing computers were big immense they had their own rooms and the big computers did all the work they would do all the heavy lifting and then push out the results to a bunch of dumb terminals so you had computers that are basically just receptacles that's sort of similar to the structure of cloud computing today you have these servers out there and you know whatever part of the world doing the heavy lifting and doing the processing and then you sort of reap the benefits on your own local machine I think that they can be beneficial to libraries but I think there are some considerations that we'll talk about there are things to keep in mind because libraries are a very specific kind of service we have very specific values that sometimes don't mesh with corporations who run cloud services so we'll get into that a bit coming in lots of areas of libraries yes absolutely we're special so we have to take a special consideration so let's start by talking about some of the advantages of cloud service cloud computing one big one is that hardware is not going to be as much of a consideration for you if you have another computer out there in New York or India or wherever they happen to be doing all of the storing and all the heavy lifting you don't have to worry as much about memory or server machines at your local library or your location so-called service can definitely save you a bit in terms of purchasing new hardware and worrying about maintaining your existing hardware if you're paying for cloud service or even if you're getting this sort of free limited cloud service that we'll talk about you know that those machines are always going to be up to date that's basically the company's focus keeping those Michigan's up to date keeping them running so that's definitely a benefit another plus would be that you can access your files from anywhere with a caveat that anywhere includes the devices that have an internet connection things that have a browser that can get to the internet so if you put your files up into the cloud you can get to them from a desktop computer a laptop a phone you know in the e-reader that has internet capability you can get to the same files from multiple locations and it's all the same content you know so you're seeing uniform uniform files some devices are now totally cloud focused or almost certainly cloud focused you guys have probably heard of Chromebooks those are more or less designed to do a lot of their operations in the cloud they don't do too much at the local level where your physical machine is and Google actually also has something called chrome bits which is a USB stick you basically can plug it into display like an old TV that has a USB port that then turns the machine into kind of a Chromebook so same principle mm-hmm another advantage might be that many cloud providers offer automatic syncing the way this works is you create folder on your desktop basically a place where you want all of your backed up stuff to go so anything you put into that folder whether that be documents images PDFs music files video files or whatever is duplicated in your cloud storage it's a one-to-one kind of mirrored relationship it's not necessarily the same thing as doing a total backup of your machine there are services like Carbonite that provide that but this is more or less just providing mirroring for this one particular folder so that can be very helpful drawbacks one big one is that you may not necessarily own your data completely when you use a cloud service you have to in general agree to a long list of legal terms and that covers who controls the data and what they can do with it you guys have probably seen a bit of the and some of the stories about Facebook and Instagram some of the things that come out that say when you add photos or videos to these services you don't necessarily own them completely Facebook and Instagram can incorporate those into advertising they can transfer usage rights and do all sorts of other things with them when you're thinking about this as I mentioned some companies don't your library value so you might want to also consider these companies in terms of how they interact with enquiries about you know usage and privacy we would not hand over library records to an authority who came to the library but if you're uploading stuff to the cloud that's library related some of these companies might not share that same value or that same reticence to hand over data so that's something to consider as well another drawback is that your data may not reside here in the US if you're sending it out to a worldwide company they essentially can put it in any location this varies depending on in some cases what you pay just to cite one example Microsoft's onedrive service with their free cloud storage they basically decide where they put your data so if they want to put it in Eastern Europe they will if they want to put it in Australia they will it's wherever it's most convenient for them to go but if you pay for the premium onedrive for business you do have a bit more of a say in terms of where your data is housed so that can also be important in terms of how your data is treated not necessarily just in terms of how the company treats it but also the laws of the time so I was thinking is is where it's actually whatever computer it's actually physically on is that what rules what can or can't be done with it mm-hmm yeah absolutely so that's definitely something to consider especially if you're uploading anything that might be considered sensitive or you know require a bit more privacy and of course if you're putting stuff out there you are going to necessarily make yourself susceptible to potential hacks most cloud storage companies at least the biggies focus quite a bit on security and keeping things safe but nothing is 100% guaranteed you guys might remember that Apple's iCloud service had a hack with celebrities who had photos that were eventually distributed all throughout the internet so something like that can happen it's something to consider when you're mulling over what to put onto your cloud service one thing that might help you in terms of security is encryption encryption basically means that your data is encoded so only people who are authorized or who have these same encryption tools can view it there are lots of free resources that can help you out with encryption one is reset the net and they have a privacy pact that you can download that has all kinds of tools in it there are also standalone tools like box krypter and Evo and I would say that the drawback is sort of parallel with the benefit for corruption because it does make it more difficult for your data to be viewed by the bad people but it also makes your data more difficult to be viewed by the good people they have to have these same tools in order to decrypt your files and actually use them so it adds a bit more in terms of getting access it adds a few more steps one other piece of encryption that might be helpful to you is two-factor authentication excuse me so instead of just putting in a username and a password you would also have to enter a passcode you might have to answer a question like what's your dog's name or what street did you live on as a child it just adds an extra layer of security to that interaction makes your date a little a little less susceptible to villains like one other drawback especially as it relates to the free cloud storage your storage space can be kind of revoked they can walk things back when they feel like they've given you a bit too much this is from onedrive not to click on onedrive but about a month ago they switched their amount of free storage space from 15 gigs to 5 gigs Telly's yeah kind of a big hit for people who might have been using that service they ordinarily will give you excuse me give you plenty of advance warning but it's still kind of a hassle if you've been using it what's that been given to you yeah what do you do with all your extra stuff now hmm got that filled up yeah absolutely I assume okay that's the free that you could pay for more space right the idea whether it's just directly with them yeah I haven't seen any instances of your you know pay premium services being changed you know you get what you get whenever you enter into that contract but the free stuff they definitely are sometimes making those changes okay so let's talk a bit about providers this is Google Drive and I'll show you some of these services later on in the presentation if you have a Google account like a gmail account you will get up to 15 gigs free and then they have premium pricing above that you can get a hundred gigs for $2 per month you can get a terabyte per month for ten dollars so it's not too expensive it uses the Google Drive office suite and those are pretty much comparable apps to your Microsoft Office stuff like Word and Excel and so on you can actually upload Microsoft Office files into Google Drive and it converts it I've done that yeah I use it a personal stuff and you can if you've created something there you can export it to and into being a office type thing that you men use yeah I've had to do that yeah you can attach stuff directly to Gmail from your drive so that's helpful as well it does include built-in OCR for PDF files and that's not necessarily a big Wow because you can do that with Adobe Reader as well but it is kind of helpful to have that built in so you can search for text and a big PDF document right in Google Drive up to 50 people can collaborate on the same file and see the changes in time so as we mentioned basic cloud service is basically just your storing stuff on other machines but these providers tack on additional features and that collaboration is definitely something you'll see with the various providers one other thing about Google that I didn't mention is that they do have add-ons available so you can add on things to handle faxes or merging PDFs or a blueprint program to sort of design a room and I'll show you that a bit later on as well so that's Google Drive Microsoft onedrive free to use with a Microsoft account up to five gigs 50 gigs it's $2 a month it's pretty well integrated with Microsoft Office as you'd expect from the same company so your word files your Excel files PowerPoint and so on those work very well with onedrive as I mentioned last well last year they announced that they were going to downgrade their storage I think they actually did that last month it's a built-in natively to Windows 8 and Windows 10 operating systems so if you have a newer machine you probably have onedrive as an app already and in addition to the free storage you get it with a Microsoft account you can get more free storage by using being your rewards which is their search service so if you instead of going to Google to find things you go to being into search a bit you'll accumulate those being rewards which you can then turn in for more free storage Dropbox is kind of a big name the free version is two gigs you can get like one terabyte per month for 825 with their pro version they do have apps available for pretty much every major platform so if you have Windows but also Linux blackberry Kindle Fire Android iOS they have apps available for all of that one thing that's notable about Dropbox is they are heavily focused on encryption so they encrypt everything from end to end to add a bit more security to what you're doing on there and they do work with Microsoft Office online which is another cloud-based service it's basically the same thing as opening up Word or Excel on your computer except that it all funct ons on their website in my experience with using this feature of Dropbox it's kind of been dragging at time so it's not it's not entirely identical to the desktop experience when you're opening up office and kind of moving around it's a little slow at times but it does work box is one that's basically not on a lot of people's radar I like box a lot the free version offers up to ten gigs that's their personal plan the thing about box is they are heavily focused on business users so you kind of have to make changes when you go to their site they assume by default you're a business seeking cloud service from them so you have to click around and change that to an individual or personal plan again it's integrated with Microsoft Office 365 it's also integrated with Google's Drive features so you get the best of both worlds from box in some ways they do encrypt all your content again as I said they're focused on business and IT users and the web app has buttons to create new Google Docs right from box's website so that's pretty cool that's one I have not heard of you is it new or just I just haven't known about it it's been around and I think this shifted their focus to business nights yeah Holly wouldn't be yeah I wouldn't have been much attention to that most likely that's where they're focusing their marketing me like that yeah yeah I think they kind of got surpassed by some of the bigger names in terms of personal users so they just changed their business strategy there's also Amazon Amazon Cloud Drive for $12 a year you get unlimited photo storage and gigs the storage for files apart photos if you are an Amazon Prime subscriber you already have this features so if you pay there I think it's 99 per year to have Amazon drive or something yeah that's one of the features you get $60.00 per year you get unlimited storage for all file types there's no free option with Amazon it is what it is but if you do have the Amazon Prime service you already have some of the features that are available so those are some of the big names there are tons of different cloud providers right now I would caution you to do your research before you jump right in and this is why there's one service called mega and it is affiliated with a guy named Kim comm who are in megaupload megaupload was a file-sharing service that was shut down by the FBI so probably don't want to be involved in it necessarily yeah and their servers are also overseas as well so that adds another wrinkle to the whole thing but if there's a service you haven't heard of it's promising a lot of free storage or all these kind of whiz-bang features it's generally a good idea to search the name and see what other people are saying or what their history might be in terms of the free storage which is what some people will opt to do rather than pay a subscription fee there are ways to maximize your free storage I mentioned with onedrive you can use your being rewards to kind of convert those into free storage space you can do that with pretty much all the major players this is from a blog called white Packer that frequently offers articles on increasing storage space so it's a good place to go and get tricks and tips for Dropbox you can do referrals onedrive has the being or rewards and there are all sorts of other little avenues you can take to increase your storage space for all the services so in terms of where this is going and whether this has a future I think that looking at some of the products and some of the services that are popping up are kind of a good indicator of how viable this idea might be this phone is a next bit Robin it's a new cell phone it comes with a hundred gigs of storage the only caveat is that the storage is entirely cloud-based so your all of your photos your video and so on that you're taking with that phone goes out to someone else's server and it's held there Amazon Web Services is distinct from the Amazon Cloud service that's actually more business-focused it's one of their most profitable sectors they have 1 million users now and 10 billion dollars in revenue and other services actually run on Amazon's web service platform so Instagram runs on it Pinterest runs on it Netflix they're behind a lot of things you don't know not even aware that's what's in there yeah yeah box actually runs on Amazon so the free cloud service runs on the paid web service please it's a very odd and the other little slide that I have there is something about banking in the cloud as it becomes more of a priority you're seeing more and more thought put into security and entering the data is kept safe so I think you'll probably see more of that as time goes on one thing that I just read before I came here is that Google purchased a platform to buy and sell cloud-based services called Orbitz era for a hundred million dollars so gosh ok you know Google obviously sees a lot of future in this sort of thing so I think that's kind of a good indicator that's going to be around for a while some considerations especially for libraries these are things that I would look for questions I would ask before signing up especially if you're going to pony up the money and purchase a subscription to any of these services take a look at their downtime history and their reliability because you are going out to you know their servers through these wires and this internet connection you want to make sure that this stuff is available most of the time obviously things can go down momentarily but if they have a patchy history that can kind of be a big red flag look at pricing and see if pricing has increased or if they made changes to their pricing structure that's kind of something you want to investigate as well take a look at extra features as we said all cloud storage is basically the same at some level but beyond that they might have things that you might need like collaboration or like the ability to integrate Google Drive or Microsoft Office products in there have they had unpleasant interactions with the police stay away security and privacy are important for libraries you want to work with someone who's going to respect our culture and our reverence for privacy both in terms of what they do with your data and what they do with your data when you're leaving their service when it comes time for a final deletion of all this stuff what happens to it you actually are you assured that it's going to be deleted from their servers or well they have copies hanging around how deleted is it yeah and also can you migrate it elsewhere so if you decide I can get a better deal with this competitor are you going to be able to take this stuff kind of in one fell swoop and put it somewhere else and this is the other animation it's clouds if you guys have any questions at this point I'd be happy to try to answer them all so at the very bottom there the UGL link will take you out to my box you can download this presentation and a few other things and I will dissuade a second for any questions to roll in and then we'll take a look at the individual services themselves and I'll add that link to our delicious links will be available to you afterwards issued I'm not able to get it make sure I get the right one okay that's it there you go yep cool all right oh yeah if you have any questions comments or anything use your questions section of your GoToWebinar interface type it in now Craig can answer anything you've thought of but he's always going to live demo some of this stuff so - question there we did have a comment about the chrome bit okay this one says I think you maybe you misspoke it's actually HDMI is the connection that it needs on TV that USB and it's also this is interesting so I thought I was thinking of it as like a like a flash drive or something but it actually needs a power supply it actually needs it's it's needs to be plugged in as well it's an extra device that you connect into your TV like your cable box or DVR player or something like that yeah interesting okay we do have a question in which um I think you sort of kind of mentioned Vinick is we can elaborate on it what assurances do users have about third parties accessing your data like I guess if it's on where these services and some I guess it could be there's somebody hacking or by accident some other of their um whatever their clients I don't know right yeah I think that would be covered by your Terms of Service you know to which you consent whatever you initially use the service itself and again you probably just want to ask that question before you sign on how is your security protected and what happens when there is something that goes awry especially depends on what you're putting out there - like you're talking about private information about our users or anything like that you want to make sure that we're if you need to use cloud storage for that kind of information that you can make sure that it's extra special extra safe depends what you're using it for - if you're just like using it to house you know your flyers and your presentations they don't have anything you know secure yeah that needs that maybe don't need to worry about quite so much yeah and I think that would direct what you put out there as well um as you said if it's just flyers or presentations it's probably not a big deal if someone knows that you're having a knitting from the library or if you wanted to use it to store some things that you don't use all year like your summer library club stuff that you notice it's really neat in December but you it's like off-site storage of books website storage of your yeah right yeah but you probably don't want to upload patron records with you know Social Security numbers and thing definitely you'd want to keep it right close to the best all right um I know that questions will come in just now that's fine um if you as we're going through things type in a question I can grab it when whenever it's appropriate and and we can get it all the information you need so go ahead and okay I had a browser open put all over and again oh sorry that's a complete that's no problem I think I might have done it actually will they be able to see it from here um yeah yeah it's doing screen sharing yep what's doing everything you're doing okay I'm going to show you box first maybe okay so this is my box account it's pretty stripped down just a list of folders and I can upload a new one here so if I wanted to upload something I could just go into here and click files or folders if I click on new I have the option to create a new word document PowerPoint Excel or go into the Google Drive stuff with Doc and spreadsheet this is actually the folder that I included in my presentation with a shared link for you guys so this is what you should be seeing if you go to this folder we've got PDFs powerpoints and so on that's interesting cuz you saw you logged into your account to get to this but you or you if you've shared this particular part publicly so other people who want to go and look at this don't have to log have a box account that's you're sharing it out there for them to use yeah no I can actually show you that is like cursor here okay so this is the public side and it's very assumed in there we go basically the same thing and you can pick and choose which stuff is public and which stuff you don't share absolutely you have when you have an account yeah it's nice about box in terms of collaboration they do have the option to add a box note like this so as I say here if you had a box account you could edit this text or add new text or media of your own this isn't as robust as some word processing programs you basically just have your standard stuff like font and you know some of the styling and so on you can't add photos or you can add a table so that's nice in some ways you can also add comments and in the comments you can type the add almost like you're on Twitter to notify someone that hey you need to work on this section of the document yep so that's it's pretty nice you do have the revision history as well so you can revert back to previous things if someone messes up your document and you have a share option so if you want to give someone total access you can do that you can also limit their participation in the document if there's someone that you want to you know you don't want them messing with certain aspects you can definitely control that you can't create a share link for anything so you can basically make it public as long as anyone has that link or you can type in the URL they can get there and view it you can invite collaborators you can upload by email so box really has a lot it's not the prettiest site ever probably it's very Spartan but you can do quite a bit with it if you guys have any questions about box feel free to ask away otherwise we'll move on to Google Drive okay I'll keep my eyes open all right okay so this is dry and some of you have probably seen this already you can create folders and drive you can upload files straight to Drive it tells you at the bottom how much space you're using you can also upgrade your storage here and you can see I'm not using you know anything at all at this point it's out of my 15 gigs I've got you know 0% is practically but if I did hit that limit I do have the option to get these sort of premium services as well with Google Drive you can create these new documents and drive that kind of parallel which you get in Microsoft Office so Google Docs Google sheets and so on you can also connect apps to it so if I go down here to more and say connect more apps I get a whole slew of things that I can add onto my Google Drive you can do Explorer which is sort of like a very compact mmm Photoshop this is pretty cool flat music sports and Guitar Tabs mm-hmm and all sorts of things here you can add stuff to convert videos to assemble PDFs into one document and floorplanner which is pretty neat so let me load this up for you I've already been working on something here this is essentially just a blueprint service it lets you create a room and then put stuff in it so you can see how the room might look when you do it in real life yeah so that's loads up here you can see I've got whatever this is and a table here I've also got an Ultimaker 3d printer on the table and I can bring in more so there are all sorts of things I can do want to put a kitchen section in here I can do it so you're trying to design a new library space and figure out where to put things is being very useful for that and then once you're done of course you can save or print or share this you get the option to create one room with free account with floorplanner of course if you want it to do more there's always the premium option available we find we used I just recently used one of the add-ons for this plugins to do labels mailing labels okay um Avery which is you know Avery big name and just the labels themselves they have a plugin for google that you can then use it like if you have a Google spreadsheet of addresses and things you need to mail out use the Avery plug-in couldn't find which just which model or whatever of slide your labels you have and then it'll smoosh it together I don't know with those technologies and then it'll be able to put it right out there for you always look fantastic basically you guys can see that you can add pretty much any type of document I've got spreadsheets PDFs standard Word document files and so on so I wonder if we have any Microsoft documents on our computer here no other could be never know it's on there yeah I want to put any way to since that but there's not that there's a brainstorming read story with sustainability that might be okay yeah we'll just see my son yeah so this is a docx Microsoft Office for map and it goes right into my Google Drive and then I can you it which I won't do because I don't know what this is but anyway that's Drive if you guys have any questions please feel free to ask in the meantime I'll hop over to onedrive which is Microsoft's cloud service you can see anything that he's showing and that's coming up in the screen that he isn't click down that you want him to show you know say so and we'll do that no problem as you guys can tell I basically have I use free service from all the providers so I haven't paid f r anything yet just because they've got enough free storage space from the various vendors that I don't have - best thing - if one if you decide to go with one and they don't have enough room you can have just an account on each one and spread out you just paid me I just remember which stuff is where and use all that free space up until you totally run out and then decide if you need to do any more absolutely okay so onedrive works it's simply the same way you can upload those files and they do stay in that sort of Microsoft Office formats of docx pptx you can also create a new file using the Microsoft Office online program which is kind of a cloud-based version of Office so if I wanted to create a new word document it will eventually load up here and as I mentioned before this isn't necessarily as robust as what you could in the desktop version so there are some things missing but most of what you need to do to do your work is here and it works the same way as the standard desktop Microsoft Office suite you just type what you want you can new things you can cut and paste unfortunately some things don't work as well so if I highlight and try to click and drag this not so much but for the most part it's a good alternative and it's a good feature to have in onedrive nice things I think good for collaboration with people who are not in the same location as you like if you're trying to work on something and you're at the library and some employee or some volunteer is at home and you can say here go look at this do this you know let me know if you like what I did or here's the schedule for the week isn't it good for you that kind of thing absolutely yeah collaboration is such a huge benefit to these sort of offerings I think especially when you have something like Google Drive that can accommodate 50 people at one time that's yeah that's extremely helpful okay as you can see I've got five gigs of space with one drive and I'm not using you know not even using a gig you do have an option to get more storage space you can also give onedrive apps as I said a lot of this stuff is built into the new version of Windows so you probably have it already if you don't you can install it directly from their website here and there are all sorts of different apps microsoft offers office 365 in addition to onedrive as a subscription service so you can go with just the onedrive or you can add on the 365 or business as well so there are all sorts of different choices there so that is onedrive the last one that we haven't mentioned is Dropbox yeah I have for personal use well also have used it at work actually um Google Drive and Dropbox v2 that I've used and to interchangeably for different things or some sometimes for the same project just because of what was doing where I was doing needed either one I don't know yeah I think it's it's actually pretty common just to pick multiple services and use them so Google Drive Dropbox box yeah and sometimes if someone else who you've started collaborating with they say well I use Dropbox you like sure I can have an there's no reason for everyone to have to change yeah yeah and they generally all work in a pretty similar fashion so it's not like you have to learn anything from scratch you know but this is Dropbox you basically have all your files here and then you have all these stereotype areas subsections over here so you're sharing you can see the people you've shared stuck with and your shared folders I haven't really done too much with Dropbox I'm kind of reliant on my old favorites I guess yeah now that's the difference too with it something that we'd actually have kind of similar but different services Dropbox it and in correct me if Ron doesn't have the features like one driving and Google Drive where you can create a new document from scratch I think you're correct it's just storage of stuff you created elsewhere you can work on it in there X I know I've used it I create something and you did it in word I think and then we upload it there to share and then you sync it to a Dropbox file on your own computer so when you make changes there automatically changes the main one up here but it's unlike those other ones you're showing this doesn't have the start a new document or started in a spreadsheet you have something else that you were doing that with first right is box the same ways that just I can't remember an empty box have the create a new box actually does I can take you back there if you want and actually that's a good point what you mentioned about syncing your Drive because it does mirror it and yeah if you got inadvertently delete something on your local machine it's going to yank it off the cloud storage as well stirred and earful know what you're doing yeah for box if you click on images yep and it will take you well that right that's when that work is both googling this often and again this is the word online which is not my favorite iteration of word but it's okay and it's pretty slow today so there we go since we're in boxed let me take you into the Documents folder this is all the stuff that you'll see if you go to that link one thing that you might want to download if you do end up in this folder as the cloud services document I put together this has links to all the majors service providers and some pricing information and there's also a very helpful PC Mag roundup of reviews for the various big names and cloud storage providers and so on and there are a few other links that might be helpful to you as well we do have one question um I guess it's gonna depend when paying for it do you let them have your credit card number is that is their what are they I guess what are the options for paying credit card would be one way of course some places also accept paypal so that gives you a little bit more security some places accept that point really survey libraries of that but bitcoin much okay so that's nice yeah I know I'm people are and that will move the hack people getting hacked and stuff getting that credit card information to doing something to be concerned about yeah that's always encouraged but PayPal gives you that extra level of security yeah any other questions type them in we want to know what you want to see is anybody use any of these services themselves I'd like to hear what other people are doing I need to talk about some of it I've done and we here at the Library Commission I don't know we use it we we have local things as well but we do use it to work with other people or to do some of our own things we're kind of a mishmash here just like you're saying there's so many different services that do different things and you may have some local like on your own computers that you do stuff on but you need to be have something available to you elsewhere for me it's always helpful to have stuff backed up in cloud storage because flash drives tend to disappear in my car to do a present I know I've got it in Google Drive and I can stab wound to copy if they put my flash drive has walked away or got lost in the seat somewhere so difficult an up in Tulsa City says he uses Google Drive and Dropbox and smelts the same thing but box sounds intriguing and they have to try it yeah that just look my first love is first cloud storage I'm kind of stuck with it oh yeah here's one Suzy here says it depends on the project for work they use onedrive but for personal stuff she's using Dropbox and Google Docs it's just yeah what works out yeah I use Google Docs a lot for personal things with my family and just because they have it's pretty easy to get a Google account and then you can share things very simply easily with people who work on things I can see the benefit of onedrive as a work thing because all this is just so prevalent it's everywhere yeah you probably are using it anyhow so it automatically there yeah all right I guess that's it for yeah okay anybody have any last-minute questions anything else you want to know about any of those services that had something on there that you wanted to see that we didn't show or than why not we Craig did the show didn't look at anything yeah but you want to get even before we wrap up here this is your last chance I don't see any questions coming in just lots of thanks go to the info thank you all right just latest because this doesn't tell me if someone's typing you know you're doing instant messaging so you can see some what it says that I have tried to wait and see if something fast but give me a little time it looks like we're all good ever the same thing so I think we'll wrap it up you keep that back for today thank you very much Craig for telling us all about the cloud storage like I said I've used some of the stuff but um there's always new things coming out there that you don't know about and especially about the security that's something that I probably am not do not pay attention enough for myself alone I don't think I'm putting in attempt anything either that's really bad no that's all on my own you know local external drive but in libraries yeah it's gonna be something different to think about what are you doing what do you how's that working out there yeah all right so I think that we will wrap it up for today um I will let's see well actually will help me can you type in encompass life yeah so encompass live luckily so far in the world is the only thing called that so if you google us or Bing or whatever we're all that comes up so you can find our website here the show is recorded is being recorded and this is where it will be on our web sites you go to encompass life right beneath our upcoming shows we have a link to our archived sessions and this is where we put all of our previous shows here and if I had last week yeah the recording was our YouTube channel the presentation in this case we put it I think on our SlideShare and then a link to this particular website what I'll do here for the presentation on link to the box account box link that Craig gave us that'll be there and then a lot of links are gathered into our delicious account but he also had that document member and hid in his that had even more stuff in there so definitely go 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