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we really want our students to come out understanding those uh all of those things in relation to hawaii so we're putting a lot of emphasis on native hawaiian place of learning that is they should understand the specifics of climate change in relation to hawaii they should understand culturally how native hawaiian systems might inform our solutions to things like public health crises as well as scientific things like climate change [Music] aloha and good afternoon everyone i'm colin moore the chair of the school of communications and the director of the public policy center here at uh manoa thank you so much for joining us i'm so happy to be here today with our very first panel uh with an exciting new collaboration between uh and the hawaii book and music festival today we're going to be talking with some of the university of hawaii's top leaders about how uh can lead hawaii forward after covid and beyond we'll begin with some short interviews with our special guests and then we'll take your questions today we'll be talking with uh manoa provost michael bruno jairus hedges the dean of the john a burns school of medicine laura lyons the associate vice chancellor for academic affairs and minute benham the chancellor of uh west oahu so thank you so much for being with us there'll be a chance for you to ask your questions at the end and we'll begin with um with laura lyons for about seven minutes um and then we'll talk to all of our guests and turn to your questions laura thank you thank you for being with us this afternoon thank you colin you know i was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the role the university can can play in setting the groundwork for a functional democracy something that i think you know given given the election and the challenges the nation has faced during covid and we all agree is more important than ever yeah well thank you for uh asking because this is something i feel really quite passionate about we are spending a lot of time right now talking with departments and talking throughout the system about workforce development and we have an obligation to do that given the investment that the state makes in public higher education here right but at the same time we have to be cognizant that the role of a college education is not simply to supply a labor pool or for students to get jobs at the end of course we want them to but their education has to serve them longer than the job that they get when they graduate right and it has to serve them through many different uh potential career changes and also changes in the economic and social circumstances of the communities that they're living in such as the pandemic so we have to educate people broadly in order to do that we live in really challenging times and in terms of democracy it is more important than ever to have uh our students educated to the highest levels of literacy because we are seeing repeatedly now that our elections are being compromised by materials that require ever greater critical thinking skills to parse out what they mean where they came from what their affective dimensions are we need public health officials who understand the ethical dimensions of the decisions they make for the broader community right we need you know students who can understand basic science when they graduate whether they're an english or a music major they need to understand basic science because we're seeing that we are being challenged on issues of climate change by people with very anti-humanist anti-science um minded attitudes and that we cannot we cannot as a democracy solve our problems when we don't have highly educated citizens and that the level of education is getting higher not not lesser and that even as uh the jobs that students occupy become more technically oriented that broad education is nonetheless really crucial i would add to that and especially this is something important to us at manoa as i know it is at west oahu we really want our students to come out understanding those all of those things in relation to hawaii so we're putting a lot of emphasis on native hawaiian place of learning that is they should understand the specifics of climate change in relation to hawaii they should understand culturally how native hawaiian systems might inform our solutions to things like public health crises as well as scientific things like climate change i'm also thinking that we we need a broad set of um of majors right so languages are becoming more and more crucial um as we have faced this pandemic we've seen that it hit our pacific island communities harder and it really wasn't until materials were developed specifically targeting those specific island commit communities that we saw the rates begin to drop right um translation is so crucial you know one of the first things that was necessary was for the medical information coming out of china to be translated and disseminated worldwide by the world health organization it's also the case right that our medical translators they're really first responders and this is something i would like to have seen talked about much more they're often standing at the bedside with the doctors in order to get that information and they're an important conduit to the families outside of the hospitals right so the ability to know language and culture in a really um strong way in order to create those communication lines is so crucial at this moment and uh you know so those are some of the things i would say are are crucial for democracy i wonder if i could follow up for a second with this question about about jobs and workforce because during the pandemic many of us have turned to works of art and film and history and literature to get us through this but i mean as you are well aware questions have persisted for decades about whether humanities majors have decent job prospects what what would you say to students or parents who fear that someone who chooses a humanities or art major might be might be somehow harmed or have a tough time finding employment as a result well um there was a meme that was going around the internet back in the spring that said if you think artists and writers are useless try to spend your quarantine without music poems books movies paintings and games right so uh you know all of those things also have an economy they're just not the things that uh come to mind the gaming industry is actually the biggest segment of the entertainment industry so um and a growing segment there are definitely jobs to be had within the humanities and the arts but what i i want to say even as much as i love that that meme and i kind of thought maybe i should have my mother-in-law cross-stitch it on a pillow for me or something um it does kind of make the arts a past time right it'd be hard for us to to get through quarantine without those things but the arts do much more they they expand and make us exercise our creative and imaginative capacities and creativity is a skill that we are going to need going forward more than ever right and you know all fields involve creativity so it's not like the arts have a lock on it but in fact we actually should have engineers taking art classes or music classes because it overall expands the capacity to think what if you know to think differently to make a set of connections that they wouldn't if their education was more narrowly focused just on the technical aspects of um you know engineering or or you know microbiology or whatever and vice versa i think it's actually quite important for those in the humanities and the arts to have a background and some background in business some background it definitely background in science there you know visual art is largely about chemical reactions in different in different media right so you should know the science behind those things as well as you should know science more broadly for the effect that it has on the the kinds of problems that we face so in general what we need are students to be highly educated to be able to exercise ethical and creative capacities to think not just about the pro problems that we're facing right now but the ones that we can't even see coming you know um we were not thinking that we were going to be meeting this way this time last year right so we never know the challenges that we're going to face and so we have to educate as broadly as possible in order to face those challenges thanks thanks so much laura and actually with all these with what you just said about science i think we can we can turn to jared's hedges the dean of the the john a burns school of medicine to learn a little bit about how the medical school has been reacting to the crisis and and what they've been providing to the community so so thanks for joining us jairus and i'll just get right into it and ask you if you could just set us up by describing a little bit the research the training and the medical assistance undertaken by the medical school during the pandemic thanks colin it's actually a very long list i've tried to condense it into some things that would be most impactful i want to thank everyone who's on this segment of the hawaii book music festival for being a part of this um you know we're we've been um seeking you know how can we both accomplish those academic goals while also helping the university and and our community look towards greater health and resilience in its economy uh those are tough goals and there are no easy solutions but i'll share a few things i want to give a shout out to my colleagues across the health sciences at manoa mary boland in particular the dean of the school of nursing but also colleagues from public health and from our um university health services program um andy uh has been a real contributor uh social work uh just everyone has pulled together to begin to look at what do we need to do to address the myriad of evolving federal guidelines and best practices across the nation and get those aligned with what our state leadership and hospital leadership where we have our clinical learning environment and also our legislators what what they're seeking so uh aligning uh recommendations and guidelines for practice whether it be delivery of education in a classroom uh by you know what we can do interfacing with students by teleconferencing but also you know how do we put our trainees in the health sciences out into the community working with patients and with practitioners where they themselves have some risk of exposure so we've been helping evolve campus guidelines and addressing those with natural best practices as part of a health and well-being working team also we've had from those same groups a large number of people who've been part of the core for the hawaii emergency management agency or haima most are familiar with general hara many are not aware that steve hankins one of our faculty from family medicine has headed up the special support function group on public health and medical services this is one that has linked the practitioners in the community with the health systems coordinated care and make sure there's continuity of care uh throughout the community but a lot of people have helped both with forecasting rights of covid and risk of compromise of our health system been doing modeling for the health systems as well as been looking at social services in the community so tremendous range of efforts done by faculty across multiple health science disciplines here we're also working closely with the health systems themselves to develop guidelines for learners in their environment they sometimes need the learners to help with care delivery but they also have to be cognizant of what the risk in the learning environment is so we've worked very closely in a very uh evolving manner to come up with working conditions and when you look at medical schools across the u.s we actually have more trainees with direct patient contact than the majority of medical schools elsewhere in the nation in part because of the policies and practices put together with our colleagues in the health systems we've also been participating collectively with health sciences uh addressing public health policy issues some of us have provided input at the national level for guidelines around vaccine distribution when that becomes available in the coming year we've also had a working group that worked with the bank of hawaii in the local health systems around the use of convalescent plasma treatment we've been working on telehealth expansion and its implementation more broadly and how to get providers and health systems reimbursed for care delivered in that manner and making sure that we have strategies for testing and contact tracing in this community uh areas of significant need that you've read a lot about in the in the media and with the help of a number of people uh you know both nursing public health our community colleges us uh west oahu we have expanded training for contact tracers and have put strategies in place working with the department of health and i think we're going to see as leadership evolves with the department of health more and more of our trained personnel assisting there and you may have heard about a testing facility the city and county of honolulu have supported and it's been a long road getting that ready we're having our blessing today they've done all the internal checks they've gotten systems in place to transfer data to the department of health uh but it's been a long time coming and we'll be working with community health centers and first responders for the city county to monitor them for their covert status and hopefully that can be expanded to reach other parts of the community that don't have as ready access for testing the research programs are often are unsung heroes research programs have been bringing federal dollars in through extramural grants we received a recent supplement to work with our health centers across hawaii and it's been very exciting because this will focus on some of the most needy and most vulnerable groups a native hawaiian pacific islanders and filipino populations that have greater risks for morbidity and mortality from the coronavirus we've been working with local biotech with oceanette in terms of some large-scale rapid testing technologies and also i've been working we've been working on the vaccine with soul inject uh solan solo gen x am looking at a novel formulation that will be uh heat resistant and allow vaccines to be delivered to parts of the world that might not otherwise receive the vaccine uh so you know it's easy to forget as we do this that we're also training the next generation of providers and many of our faculty as well as trainees are delivering care in the community during this epidemic so it's been very important to keep the health systems going with these efforts um i'd like to just say a little bit uh in terms of how we can help with the future i think when we look it break it down into the economy and the delivery of services research bringing federal and foundation dollars not only to do fundamental research related to coronavirus but also help us with care innovations technology development and implementation is vital we also are working of course with the health system so they can deliver more efficient care and deliver more care and i think we've formed a good team to look at innovations and deliver best practices and really rapid speed across the health systems here in hawaii and that will help us in terms of the economic costs of delivering care in this very difficult time and of course i mentioned previously the telehealth piece which allows us to deliver care in areas that we couldn't have and keep them functional and healthy in different parts of the state but again i can't say enough about our faculty and trainees in terms of how they stepped up and contributed to health care here and i think some of these innovations that are coming forward are going to be very very helpful for us but let me stop there and see if you have a follow-up question or if it's time for the next speaker well that that was a very comprehensive and exciting answer so i think we'll wait for the end to i'm sure people have questions about some of what you said but um for now i think we'll move on to minet benham the chancellor of uh west oahu who are really thrilled to have with us today and um i wanted to focus our conversation if i could on community partnerships because uh west oahu has been so involved in the community and focused on the community what what partnerships are working um and what partnerships does uh west oahu have planned and how is this important to help us recover from kovid well you know i i i'm so happy that you're asking that question about what we call here at uh west oahu the scholarship of engagement um that really pivots our efforts here uh to look at what we our expertise on our campus and has us looking into our community in ways that we can truly engage with community members to make a significant difference uh to create social justice in the many communities that we serve i i also want to acknowledge my colleagues that are on this uh panel as well and and mahalo to laura and to jairus for the wonderful work that they're doing um and sharing with us today and and it reminds me that you know we are all dedicated uh not only to the academic excellence of each one of our campuses within the system but we're dedicated to do this by serving with aloha for our local our national and our international communities that that we are responsible for so as the one public institution of higher education you know we have this historic trust that's embedded in the concepts of kuleana ohana and aina that serve to remind us of our responsibilities to our family community and the environment and i know that at uh west oahu that is a hallmark of our culture of community engagement of scholarship of engagement that extends far beyond our classroom is is is what the the the faculty are doing in our k-12 school systems through early college through creating articulations uh planning and and and developing pathways for our students from k through 12 to really see higher education as an opportunity as an accessible opportunity as an affordable opportunity to bring to their family and their communities the kinds of of abundance that's so available through higher education and in this place uh one of our partnerships that has profited quite a bit is our relationship with the kapolei chamber of commerce and the kamehameha schools and the department of education recently our efforts to link all of our regional businesses to high school students to academic programs at uh west oahu to careers has actually gone viral and it's being picked up by our p20 program and it's going to be replicated around the state again bringing together high school students with higher education with businesses so that our students are staying here and not going away and the brain drain is now turned around and students are are finding a way to contribute uh to the economic health and well-being of their communities um just like laura and michael i'm sure he'll mention this as well uh that central to our kuleana in our communities is really central to that is our faculty and our faculty's complete dedication and commitment uh to engage nes lord brought up real ethical learning environments where um students have a free exchange of ideas where they can share in a variety of intellectual resources across the disciplines with cutting-edge scholarships and as scholarships that our faculty not only at west oahu is doing but across our system thanks i i wanted to ask one follow-up which maybe some people on this call may not know about the university's commitment to be a hawaiian place of learning and i wonder if you could talk a little bit about that and talk about where we're succeeding and where where the university could do more to achieve that goal so the university of hawaii has a has a commitment to the indigenous people of this place um hence the hawaiian place of learning um and i had mentioned earlier three values kuleana ohana and aina because when we talk about hawaiian place of learning it is a much deeper conversation much more complicated explanation than i can provide in the short period of time that i have but i i guess i could say that um so so quickly um sort of an ancestral very short story uh of our hawaiian genealogy so hawaiians believe that our elder sibling is this place right and we are all here as visitors as people of this place and we have a deep deep kuleana responsibility to take care of this place kanaka as well as non-hawaiians because this place is our kai koana is our elder sibling it is the elder sibling not only to hawaiian people but it is the elder sibling of everyone who is here right now right now and we are the younger sibling the kaikaina we are here not only to partake of the abundance of this place but we are also here to make sure that there is good polina and relationship so when we talk about the university's responsibility to be a native hawaiian place of learning it really is having us think deeply about our kuleana to making sure that this place that we live in is healthy is abundant into perpetuity not only for kanaka but for all of the others who call this place home are we doing a really good job um i think we're getting there thank you so much thank you chancellor benham i'll turn now to our last speaker provost uh michael bruno of uh manoa and um this is uh you know you are uh one of the top administrators so you look at the big picture so i want to ask you a big picture question uh which is how are you and president lassner looking to position uh for the future and to help hawaii recover from the covid pandemic let me let me first begin by saying how proud and honored we are to be a part of a major part of the hawaii book and music festival and i hope that this partnership continues i also want to thank my colleagues who have already spoken your words are both beautiful and inspiring thank you so much and lastly and several have already mentioned this but thanks to our faculty our staff and our students we are at the end of our sixth week of instruction we are keeping our employees and our students safe and our young learners continue to learn and we are continuing to keep them safe so i'm very very grateful for that um with respect to your question um it is our responsibility to lead um uh chancellor benham just very eloquently described our kuleana to this place uh we can never lose sight of where we are and who we are um we have a unique responsibility so when i tell my colleagues on the continent that we are at once a premier r1 research university that is also very student-centric and the most community-facing organization that i have ever worked for um and i mean all of those things and they they they can be co-located they can live together in a very powerful effective way um and in that sense i think this university system can be a uh an exemplar and an example to to really other universities around the world if you'll allow me i i want to read the draft vision statement in our draft strategic plan and we say this is uh manoa we will be locally and globally recognized as a premier student-centered carnegie research-one community serving university grounded in a native hawaiian place of learning that summons our rich knowledge systems to help malama hawaii and the world for future generations and i love that vision statement it's part of who we are it addresses where we are and who we are um if this state is to move forward um i really strongly believe it will be led by the university of hawaii um i i look at a university as a obviously a center of learning uh we develop new knowledge and new understanding but we disseminate that new knowledge and understanding we use it to inspire and inform our students we also move it out if we are going to be doing our jobs well we move it out for the public good and i i don't know of another university that does that in such a strong way so i've been spending a lot of time thinking about our capacity our capacity to to develop those new knowledge and new knowledge and new understanding and our capacity to move it quickly out to good use and when you think about the pandemic and the ways in which so many segments of our university have have jumped in much of it on a voluntary basis jairus spoke eloquently about the health the healthcare aspects and the medicine but engineering pitched in by designing and actually printing mass of face shields uh we had several departments cetar theater and dance uh creating mass for distribution we had you hero and uh some of your colleagues in public policy uh being right there with the legislature and the governor um informing our elected officials and helping to guide them and i couldn't be more proud but we also have to remember when a hurricane is coming towards our islands who's out there it's it's our faculty that are working alongside the federal government in producing very very accurate um forecasts when when a uh when a volcano erupts it's our faculty on the sides of those volcanoes um reporting back their data and their information a lot of it on cell phones to our senators and our our governor and uh it's really inspiring for me to see how community facing we are and for us to come through this pandemic for us to remake hawaii as a more sustainable place with sustainable sustainable tourism sustainable agriculture sustainable water use and and all the other aspects of the economy that we talk about with high tech and other other aspects the arts which are so important has has been mentioned um i i think that we are well positioned and as you know colin we just met we are working closely with our departments and our units to even more strongly position ourselves to have those beneficial impacts so thank you thank you so much i i know that there were some questions um before i even um showed up to moderate this panel from people who are wondering um how uh is preparing to potentially bring students back if there are other institutions other places that we can use as a model for reopening to get students back in the classroom i wonder if you could speak a little bit about how you're thinking about that and how you're thinking about keeping the educational opportunities here accessible to students during the pandemic yeah number one number one is safety and i'm really proud of the work that our team has done vice chancellor for students and her team and our enrollment management team and our hats off in particular to our residence life our student residents folks who have kept our students safe we worked very closely with the governor and attorney general to develop a plan to bring our students those of whom who live on on the mainland and overseas to come in to be tested or show proof of a test to to basically live in a bubble for 14 days after arrival where they were only engaged in campus activities right now we are planning to do exactly the same in the spring semester unless conditions warrant otherwise we are going to be very careful with that we will soon spin up campus testing dean hedges mentioned the lab coming online the plan is to engage with that testing to go out into underserved uh portions of our population and then to make plans to provide those testing capabilities here on campus so we do know that testing has to be part of keeping our campus safe so is physical distancing 86 of our courses this semester are 100 online so only 14 are in any part face to face so we think you know and that was driven by faculty we gave faculty the option encouraging them to think about the most effective modalities and i think we've arrived at a very effective mix that's keeping our our students and our faculty safe colin if i could uh just add that across the university of hawaii system what i have learned over the last seven months is that there are three key things that have helped uh campus chancellors and provost bruno really try to make decisions about moving forward and the first of course as provost bruno has mentioned is the safety health and well-being of our students and the communities that surround us we are definitely impacted by everything that's happening around us we're not in a bubble so safety is very important and in order for us to really move forward safely net our networks working together as a system under the leadership of president lassner with our vice presidents that network of leadership that makes up the executive officers of this system has worked so very hard to to voraciously study what's going on at other campuses across the globe what's going on at in the 49 48 states contiguous states on the continent in order to make the kinds of policy decisions that we need to move forward so safety networking and and really making decisions um and and being leaders i i believe in this state to to actually take take steps to make to take a stance uh for the work that we're doing and for the people that we're serving i mean you know i i i i know there's a question on the the question board about you know how are we going to survive with the cuts that are coming down um and it's and people need to know that it's extremely painful you know i work a lot with the community colleges um and and the faculty and the students um and and you know it's going to be painful but there is such aloha there is such community commitment uh to the opportunity that this university can share can share with everyone in the state of hawaii but that network and that good pelina that good relationship i think is important to our survival through this painful period of time thank you chancellor venom thank you provost bruno i and with that i think we'll we'll turn over to the questions and um we we as chancellor benham just mentioned we have one about um the budget cuts which are we're going to have to navigate somehow and i wonder if maybe everyone could could just talk for a second about how in your position at the university you're trying to to think through those i know there's a lot of anxiety and questions not just from the students and faculty but also from the community about what what will be cut is as someone wrote in all of what we've we've laid out in terms of our vision sounds great but how can we how can we provide that vision in a time of of uh what what may end up being a time of fiscal austerity um maybe um we can start with with uh with you laura or or or dean hedges thank you colin um well i i guess i would start by saying um one of the things that we really have to do is to collaborate much more widely and as you know because you were in a meeting just this morning with um provost bruno and me and others right that really getting faculty to think outside of um their particular department or program or the larger unit they're in and where they can make connections across other units departments and programs i think is really crucial because we won't be able to hire as many people as we have the last five years and so we're going to have to operate in somewhat more constrained even greatly more constrained um situations and that means you know really making use of and finding synergy across the programs rather than thinking that we can just keep doing things the way we have i guess the other thing i would say is when when i you know have friends who talk to me about well you know why are you thinking about this for my program it's just such little money right and if you did if you cut something else it would be so much more impactful the truth is it's going to take a lot of different kinds of tightening of the belt and cutting to get where we need to be it isn't an either or situation and we're gonna have to figure out how to pull ourselves together to deliver both the research and the educational mission that you know is crucial for the state and and again for the the the young people in this state as well thanks dean hedges yeah good good points but laura i think um as a whole here in hawaii we're very not only comfortable with but fairly aggressively collaborating compared to other parts of academia across the u.s and we certainly are looking for ways in the health sciences not only to collaborate across units but also across institutions and doing more multi-institutional programmatic activity both for education as well as for research productivity and we've been looking at how we can bring more re enue in the state the state needs activity that will generate funds from out of state and create jobs and so we've been trying to keep our research strong our investigators have been working overtime along with staff getting grant applications out the door both those based here in hawaii with collaboration and those based across the u.s we're also collaborating more with our health systems something that we'd always done to a great extent but we're looking for new ways that we can partner and work together around the learning environment that we need outside of the university in order for us to train uh health care professionals and i think we're making some progress there that can be mutually beneficial and uh also help us on um some revenue generation as well so um those are things we're focusing on and i know that the provost has a tough job and you'll be talking to michael next but i i just think that uh it's really important that we we look at what what are the programs that the state is going to need that will create jobs and see how we can preserve them and keep keep things going there's so much to be done over the coming years thank you i'll alternate provost bruno next i want to add a part of this question that we got in the chat which is also um are we doing all we can to train federal workers we know this is a big part of uh hawaii's workforce and our economy and the the um the viewer writes in specifically about shipyard workers and intelligence officers but i think generally positions that that that are often very well paid these federal government positions um is this a consideration so i'll i'll add that to this this larger question about budget cuts yeah it's it's that's those are a couple good questions thank you colin um so yeah it can it to me it cannot only be about cuts um in in essence what we're trying to do is become more more agile more responsive to opportunities as laura said and others have said uh jairus just said that collaboration has to be a real key to that i i keep coming back in my mind as i'm having these fantastic you know conversations with faculty now you know we were very provocative in a set of suggestions to 15 different um colleges and schools the ensuing discussions and feedback have opened up other possibilities that have been really inspiring and and they often involve collaborations outside of the unit and and more and more i'm thinking you know i a modern university perhaps ought to be organized around problems and and and common issues rather than stovepiped departments that work on their own props with very little collaboration i think when you start imagining that jairus and i have spoken about this a lot about health sciences you can think of natural sciences sustainability oceania and other other large areas of study that exist across campus so how do we bring that together and if we do that in my opinion our research which just by the way was uh essentially record-breaking last year and our our our enrollment uh will both rise and uh so what we are doing right now in these conversations is planning yes for increased efficiencies but also increased revenue of all types thank you i'll direct the next question to chancellor benham um and i think it's it's a good one um and so one of viewer writes how can we measure progress toward uh making uh a hawaiian place of learning how do we make sure we're moving from rhetoric to real action in this area so i do want to answer that question but i would like to answer that question with my colleagues colin because it always one of the one of the ways to move hawaiian place of learning is that the hawaiian person isn't the only one who answers the hawaiian question right what what needs to happen is that every person who holds the position in the university of hawaii system needs to be able to answer that question it needs to be a core to what they do so before i answer i'd like to open it up to any of my colleagues and and have them say how they feel they can measure to ensure that because the three of you were at manoa to to to know that manoa is moving out of the rhetoric to actually the practice so i will answer as best i can right now and i you are so very right um so i think that uh first first of all the uh the student enrollment should reflect the population i think that the university particularly manoa is doing a much much better job and and our numbers our numbers are uh strong maybe they they can get uh stronger but they're strong that is not the case in the terms of our faculty like our faculty percentages our faculty numbers should be more reflective of of the native hawaiian population as well as frankly other underrepresented groups and i'll end with our administrators should also and and um and i feel strongly that way so there should be um a much stronger um push to recruit and this begins we all know this begins in high school if not before uh create a pipeline that will produce um eventually native hawaiian faculty and pacific islander faculty um and then mentor those who come in our doors to rise up the ranks of administration so all in there so i know i'm i won't put laura and jairus on the spot although i know they've got an answer for this but i the reason why i did that is because as some people know that i was at manoa before i came out here to west oahu and while i was there we did come up with the native hawaiian strategy strategic plan and we came up with a process called kahooko kahoko kuliana that is to move towards the responsibility of manoa as the research institution as part of the system to really take a firm stance and move forward and i would agree entirely with michael about the different areas that still need to improve upon becoming or learning to become a native hawaiian place of learning i will say that many of the community colleges are a little further ahead and out here in uh west oahu by virtue of having a native hawaiian chancellor that is grounded in native wine values and principles uh that you know we we are a little bit ahead of the curve as well um but i think michael is absolutely right and i applaud and give kudos to the three people on this uh zoom call who have done a tremendous job uh to kahooko kuliana to know your responsibility and constantly move the dial if i could just speak to those excellent comments by uh chancellor venom and also provost bruno the one of the things we found in the medical schools we we do a lot of activities everything from recruitment to curriculum development and and each department has specific areas of responsibility there but we we've begun to have more and more advisory bodies engaged in our processes including our admissions processes and recruitment and in those advisory bodies we want a representation of the community at large but in particular we feel being a hawaiian place of learning we need strong representation from native hawaiians and pacific islanders in general so that that is one of the commitments we've made as as a school and part of uh manoa and i think it is clearly impactful in how it has framed not only how we're perceived by the community but by how our students perceive their education as well i i can just add one thing which is i think it's clear from everything that's been said there is no one measure right there are a multitude of of measures and certainly the people whether it's students or faculty who inhabit a university is that's the greatest force for transformation so when those people change the institution changes and i think one of the things that's most important is that um and i'm very proud of manoa and the way that it's gone that you know although we have hawaii aka native hawaiian values are suffused throughout a number of departments and they're not cordoned off right and so part of the health of that idea and the degree to which we're living up to you know our promise to do uh to attain that depends upon how suffused throughout the entire institution we are in terms of enrollments faculty and how those ideas and cultural concepts infuse the curriculum and the research thank you thank you so much we're getting still a number of questions about the budget and i know this isn't doesn't fall directly under your areas of supervision but i want to ask it in case you can provide any information to to our viewers and and one of them is um they write that they've seen a lot about little cuts small programmatic changes and they wonder if there are any big cuts planned and they're specifically curious about the future of athletics at uh manoa which um you know is a big part of any large public university um so maybe maybe provost bruno you could you could answer that question yeah so i'll start from big and come come back down to campus level i have been in many meetings with chancellor benham and officers of the other campuses having some pretty um provocative and and impactful conversations about system level system-wide changes that would produce savings so those conversations are going on um here at manoa we have a separate group that is looking at administrative uh reorganization that will reduce administrative costs we've already identified a number of vm positions that will be eliminated um and you know with respect to athletics the president appointed and i am co-chair of the so-called blue ribbon committee that is a town gown committee looking at the future of uh athletics and uh so the heart conversations are not only occurring at uh in the academic sphere they they are also occurring across all of the different other um not only campuses but all the different other aspects of our organization thank you we we have a little less than 10 minutes left and so i i want to begin by wrapping us up and ask each of you if you could just talk for a minute about your hope for the university of hawaii maybe over the next five years what what would how would you like to see us emerge as a stronger institution five years from now and whoever would like to uh to go first you're very welcome too i'll go ahead and jump in and uh before getting out to five years um you know we've got to get through the next couple of rough years and i've told people from the beginning of this that this was not going to be something to be gone in several months nor necessarily in a year even if we have a vaccine that's effective it'll take time to distribute it get enough herd immunity and to address the fact that people's immunity is transient you may have a number of months of protection from a re infection but but this issue will be with us for a while we're going to have to keep working at it the the good news is if we kind of look at what's happened within the health care system and then what is about to happen within the educational system is number one we've gotten very good at distance activity to minimize the amount of encounters we have to do and i expect some of that will continue and as we plan for the future of our uh system there will be a lot of thought about how we blend on-site versus distance learning there's certain distance things that make sense and there's certain things where you've got to have hands-on and small group instruction to make to exchange the knowledge that's necessary but i think you know we've been doing that in the healthcare environment and actually have been very successful in keeping numbers of exposures and number of actual infections down there's still some risk involved but it is something that is manageable so i think that some of those same lessons can be transferred into you know into the higher education sector i think we also have to realize that a lot of the real risk happens not at school and not in in the healthcare environment but actually happens in our communities and at home and we found that certain activities where we bring large groups of people together who may not live in the same bubble that they create risk for each other and we have to begin to educate people about that but if we do that and adopt some reasonably appropriate protective mechanisms of minimizing exposure i think we're going to succeed but i'd like to see the university really help lead this state in terms of its building and economy and that's that's what i'd like to see from this university and as we heard today it's it's not an economy that's solely based on technology it's not solely based on delivering healthcare or specific services it also involves the creativity and and stimulation that we need as as human beings and and it needs to be connected with the community and this community is under stress now we've had a lot of things to create division and a lot of things that have uh created tremendous stress and we've got to start healing the community and so the university has a big role it can play in that so thank you i guess i can add to that and the higher leaders can have the last word um i guess i would say what i want to see in five years is um and i think we always have to think longer than five years but in five years i want to see more of the students in this state in these islands choose the university of hawaii not because they don't have other options but because they feel it's the best option for both them and what they want to pursue and also their community because i think too often we've given students in the state and in these islands a sense that to succeed they have to go away and that hasn't helped us at all and so that's that's what i want to see is that we have our students staying here in order to serve the communities that they come from and also the communities that they choose to be a part of so that's what i'd like to see i'll go really fast michael so i just want to go back to the three principles that i had mentioned earlier in terms of kuleana ohana and aina as being key principles by which we make decisions moving forth forward and finally my takeaway is that we are strong as a system not as individual campuses that our efforts are transformative because we are networking with our community partners and that we are courageous i believe everyone is courageous as leaders and as educators so those are the things i would want our community to know about us i would like to see i would like to see us prove to ourselves that we can change i would like our community to begin to get more and more comfortable with change um and in doing that by doing that i would like for us to earn the respect and admiration of the community that we serve i i i would like us to be even more highly valued out in the community and with with that with success in that with earning that trust and respect i believe what will come along with that is the support that we will continue to need from our our legislature our governor are the public philanthropists out in the community we need to earn we need to earn their trust and their respect and i think we can do that working together i think we can do that thank you all so much for for participating what i think was a really productive conversation this afternoon and i want to thank our partners at the hawaii book and music festival for putting this on and a huge thanks to uh's i.t department for managing today's broadcast which was terrific these tech problems sometimes arise and and they were there to solve them for us and thanks all of you for joining us this afternoon i hope you learned as much as i did aloha [Music] you