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we can kick off and get started here um i am going to welcome tyree who is our president here at nevada mining association and with us we have annie hutta she is the director for the mackey school of earth sciences and engineering at the university of nevada reno she's also an advisory member of the nevada mining association board we have corey nelson who is the director of development in the unlv college of sciences as well as dr allison sloat associate professor in residence in the unr or i'm sorry unlv college of sciences as well um unr just rolls off the tongue a little bit easier for me so um i will welcome all of them and tyree here's to you good afternoon everybody tyree gray here such a pleasure to be with you today um and thanks in advance for all of our panelists uh it's always great to get it get together with uh with unlv and the university of nevada i know they hate it when we put reno on it because i am a southerner um and i went to unlv uh way to go boyd law school and i don't want to start anything because i know i have some people on the line like christina pearson and allison anderson and i believe greg uh i believe drew as well um is an alum of the university of nevada but it's such a pleasure to be with you all today and really we're just wanting to have a conversation around stem education um again what we've found is um from a mining perspective we all know that mining consistently runs um sometimes as many as 500 jobs below where we should be and a lot of that is just frankly that we're not getting the exposure to some of our students in the same way and so we really want to have on a great panel that can kind of talk to us a little bit about stem education here in nevada but one of the things that i wanted to bring up is our teacher workshops that we that we hold every year again this year because of the virtual components we haven't been able to do so in 2020 because of the pandemic in this year we're trying to find a new way to do it do it virtually but you mean our teacher workshops are really a wonderful opportunity for us to be able to reach out to some of the educators in nevada and those are focused on k-12 educators that are able to take our mining curriculum and get them in front of their students and another thing that we've uh kind of been working on that is not specific to nevada is we've been working with the colorado mining association to also develop some workshops with them that we're going to start to host virtually um the last thing and the third thing that i'll talk about a little bit is that our girl scout mining patch which is today's world excuse me mining in today's world and that is a patch that we develop here at the nevada mining association that is a national patch and the opportunity for young ladies and young men um across the the state and across the us frankly to be able to earn that patch is something that we're really really uh excited about but you know i guess this is a good opportunity for us to really start to engage a little bit uh with our panelists and have them give you uh a little bit of background about themselves and for them to be able to to chat a little bit about what the university of nevada las vegas is doing what the university of nevada reno are doing around stem education um broadly but then also you know what they're doing around mining education because we recognize that you mean again if we don't get in front of today's students we won't be able to create the workforce of tomorrow and frankly we need to create a workforce uh people are retiring day in and day out but also there's a desire to grow the mining industry in the mining space in nevada um so with that you mean i'd love to kind of maybe pass the mic over um to uh dr sloat and i said that correctly today didn't i all right good deal i always say my name is tyree and i get all types of pronunciation so i care about making sure that we pronounce people's names accurately correctly but um i guess you mean if i could pass it over to you a little bit i'd love to hear kind of some of the things that um actually you know what i made a mistake i'm supposed to go to annie first and so if you guys will forgive me i will actually go to annie first um this is the only time that i will put unr ahead of unlv i'm kidding i'm just creating a little bit of rivalry there because i know you guys like that um but actually i would like to go over to annie and just kind of talk a little bit about uh stem and mining and what uh unr is up to perfect thanks tyree um the the question of mining in stem is a really great one and um i joined mackie school in june of 2019 and during my time um as director for the mackey school it really has become apparent to me that um connecting stem with mining is really vital to successful recruitment and retest retention efforts um strength in stem education is critical to our workforce and to our growth as an essential industry here in nevada stem is really at the heart of what mining is and who we are from supply chain to exploration um the literal process of mining or extraction all the way to the final product that is produced and sold as components in other stem industries within nevada uh every advancement made in modern day mining from square set timber at virginia city to new processes for leaching ore and um employing machine learning and data mining to increase process recoveries each and every advancement made in mining in the last 120 years has come from collaborative efforts in science technology engineering and math with the overall impact of the industry resulting in lower costs and a reduction to the environmental impact stem really is who mining is um who we have been and stem is what will help to transform mining for future generations lessening environmental impact really is the primary focus of every mining project in the world um and it's advancements use science technology engineering and math to deliver industry changing results so um to say that mining is um or that stem is is really at the center of what mining is and who we are it's crucial for us to think about this and to think about how we engage the next generation of workforce it looks like we have a couple of uh polls popping up and so uh it looks like we have people tuning in from northern nevada northeastern nevada a couple people from uh southern nevada and people outside of nevada so thank you all for uh tuning in a bit today and we definitely appreciate your uh your participation and so annie can you tell me a little bit you mean for those who are unfamiliar with the mackie school of mines if you can just explain just a little bit around the maki school of mines as well absolutely so the mackie school of mines is um housed within the college of science at the university of nevada reno and we've been in existence for about 112 years now and um the school was endowed by the namesake john mackey and his family um we consist of three departments mining and metallurgical engineering geological sciences and engineering and geography we're the only mining school that has geography within its curriculum and we're extremely proud to have them with us we strive every day to connect mining with modern understanding of stem and the critical needs that exist and connecting with middle school and high schoolers to help them make that connection and to be excited about modern day mining and um its application in society uh thank you thanks for that insight and uh i am a proud member of the mackie school of mines board as i know some of our members are as well so um thank you annie and keep on doing the good work you're doing up there um dr sloan i'd like to chat with you a little bit um now you run the state's only science fair and i was surprised to find out that the state only has one um i remember competing in my science fair when i was a when i was a young pup in elementary and uh i can't remember exactly what i did but i had something like with a battery and got to you know one of the i was able to activate something really cool so um and i went to the science um institute of technology which was housed there in san diego i'm from san diego originally and san diego state grant and under and um for my undergrad but um you know in san diego we had a lot of uh science uh kind of community centers if you will and so when i was in elementary school i actually went to uh the institute of science there in san diego houston um and on the south side and it was a great experience being able to be exposed to you mean stem early and then and though i ultimately decided to become a lawyer um give me somehow or another i have been bought back into the stem industry so i'd love to just kind of hear a little bit about what you guys are doing uh there with the state fair and let me hear how and why you believe science to be important are promoting stem to be important so unlv does run the bill bank science fair and the the high school fair draws last year i drew about 150 students from 13 high schools around clark county uh 60 of those students were from low to middle income high schools so it really does uh help make an impact for students who maybe don't get the opportunity to travel out of state to the science centers or really you know get that good scientific education uh or those exposures um so another thing that we do at unlv uh to try to reach students in those stem fields is rebel science camp and so we run a rebel science camp is a fifth grade outreach program for stem and we've reached about a thousand students over the past three years through that camp and if you don't mind um [Music] what you're a doctor and so i want to make sure we give you that but uh what's your doctorate my doctorate is in geology yes i got my phd from from unlv and my undergrad and my master's degrees are from cal state san bernardino and if you don't mind would you share a little bit what got you into geology how did you find that pathway my love of the outdoors and my desire to help preserve the environment that was really my my purpose and it's one of the purposes that i pass on with rebel science camp so we talk about mining at rebel science camp the students do a cookie mining activity we talk about how you use 40 000 pounds of minerals every year and how everything you can grow has to be mine and so these students are are diverse they are excited about mining and science and so it really does help expose them to the idea that if you you have to all of your all the things you use on a day-to-day basis are coming from mining probably definitely and so i guess i'll ask uh and and these are off-the-cuff questions for you guys who are attending so we we don't let them know what we're going to ask them um really off the cuff but to annie and to dr slutt as well i would say why do you think there becomes this disconnect in between if it's not grown its mind and what are some of the things that you think we could do to kind of help close that gap first annie were you going to talk or do you want me to talk i'll i'll jump in there um i think one of the biggest disconnects that we've seen um is just an understanding of what modern mining is and how that might associate with stem and be relevant in today's workforce and into today's career path choices of career path stem encompasses a number of options and so i think one of the critical actions that we have is to make sure that these students recognize the mining industry as a viable option for stem careers um i i got asked just the other day in fact about canaries do we still use canarians and mines um to determine how healthy the air is and so there i think there's just a significant disconnect between what modern mining is and how it would relate to stem and so that's one of the challenges that we have to face thank you dr slowed anything to add there i think part of it also is that you know how often have students actually met someone who is employed in this particular industry uh at least in southern nevada i think that it's not all that common maybe in northern nevada if they have friends who have parents who work in these industries but in southern nevada i don't think it's that common oh definitely well thanks for answering that because i guess it really does kind of lead into a question i have for corey and so cory as the director of development for the unlv college of science it seems like community engagement would be fairly important in helping to recruit in students to unlv but also to unr as well and so i was wondering if you could chat a little bit about that sure so one of the uh i think driving factors for anyone who works in higher education is primarily providing education to our students and really creating an educated workforce you know putting people out there who have the skills and the knowledge to be successful lead a successful career um and help to overall improve the economy improve the way we all live on a day-to-day basis and that's where community outreach and community partnerships really come in handy uh for us especially in both at unr and at unlv i mean the science fair is a perfect example that science fair wouldn't exist if we didn't have a partnership with a very generous philanthropist to establish that here wanted to ensure that that students in southern nevada have the opportunity to participate in science participate in scientific research and present their work to the community and the same goes for rebel science camp that's fully funded by by private organizations and you know these folks get to come in and and meet these students and get see them get excited about science i think dr sloat didn't mention this but she at the beginning of rebel science camp gives all these kids a survey and they say what they want to be when they grow up and they're like i want to be like a youtube star or i want to be like an nba player and they don't like a concept of a career to a fifth grader is always kind of like a foregone conclusion but it's especially so in these students who maybe don't have exposure to science or to scientific education and by the end of these these uh rebel science camps these students are all saying they want to work in science they want to be geologists they want to be doctors they want to be someone who who works in the stem field so i think you know having that that support not even just from a monetary side but a mentorship side i know unr has an extensive uh mentorship program in the mackey school and that's something we're trying to build at unlv all of these really come in and and help our students to to be productive members of society and to get an education which i think is the goal of higher ed thank you corey um so we just had a uh panel uh question or excuse me a question that popped up for everybody a survey but i'd love to ask the panel um and so that survey asked me did you have a mentor to in order to get into your career so um to annie i'd love to hear did you have a mentor and would you mind telling us a little bit about your mentor and how they helped you land where you are um so so i actually didn't have a mentor coming into um mining and geology i got my degree at the university of idaho um and really probably should have ended up in oil and gas um but had my first interview in nevada and had a job offer there and accepted that before i even moved on to interviewing with oil and gas um i think though i think there's a special connection amongst geologists when you're working in the field and so my mentor experience really came once once i joined the mining industry and i think um there's it becomes a family and i think that's a huge value that potential students looking to go into into the mining fields need to know is how supportive and how engaged our fellow miners and fellow members are [Music] thank you for sharing annie uh how about you dr sloat was there a particular mentor that steered you a particular way i did not my mentors were my professors at cal state i mean they were really the ones who really encouraged me to continue with geology who encouraged me to go to graduate school um and i worked as a geologist in california because before i came to graduate school but and so you know in in consulting in the environmental consult
ng industry i certainly had mentors there uh once i joined the field but before that no i did not and corey i guess you could probably say where i'm going next sure um so funny enough i actually do have a mentor in my field i should clarify i do not have a degree in geology i but i do work very closely with our department of geoscience um at unlv and so i've seen geoscience and geology on the periphery and i understand a little bit about the research but as far as a mentor i actually fell into this career path kind of randomly um but i had a wonderful boss at my first job who i still count as a mentor today she probably taught me everything i know about community engagement and fundraising and things like that so yes that's awesome and you mean since the three of you shared it's only polite for me to share so uh so give me i've been blessed to have mentors along the way i would probably say you mean and to kind of speak about you mean why we're talking today one of my most influential mentors was a gentleman by the name of daniel eaton and he came into my classroom when i was in seventh grade through junior achievement and he was the first lawyer i had ever met um and he was the first lawyer of color that i'd ever seen um and not that i had set out to ever actually become a lawyer but that impression and again i think you mean dr slo you spoke about it you know when you see it it's something that you can accomplish and so you'll be coming from a background where you mean my neighborhood was not full of lawyers i had never actually interacted with one and so you mean daniel eaton actually um to this day is a person who plays a nice role uh in my life he actually helped to write my recommendation to get into law school and uh even when i even took one of my first jobs i remember calling him after having a unique experience with one of my partners and he's like that's just the practice of law son you'll get to it so you know it is funny how we can touch each other's lives and i mean i think it's important that i mean as an industry we try to find ways to create these mentorship opportunities now um corey i think i know you had a video that you wanted to show us is that correct or yeah so this is just our short kind of promo video that we use to explain the science fair so i can get it set up really quickly yeah we'd love to we'd love to see that be able to chat a little bit more about it everyone see that [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] uh awesome thank you for sharing yeah so um you know if i can a little bit and just kind of engage in a little bit more discourse and i will remind uh attendees uh those of you who are out there watching if you guys have questions for um for any of us on the panel um we'd love to hear those questions from you and entertain them a little bit um but what can businesses i mean from your experience working with you college students but then also you being able to interact with k-12 students what can businesses and organizations do to really support students getting into stem and i leave that one open for all three of you whoever wants to happen there um from from my experience tyree i think one of the biggest um strategies that we need to keep in mind is that this isn't a one-and-done interaction these are relationships and pipelines that really need to be built and that need to be reinforced as these students move and and grow from from grade school to middle school to high school and so having consistent programs that retouch as these students move through their career pathways um that are collaborative and that that involve and engage kind of the next step or the next piece that that would be connected for them to to be able to build that pathway i think those are really important um strategies that businesses and partners can use when they're when they're reaching out and beginning to talk about or or introduce young students to stem and the pipeline i think also i'll just jump in there too i think really making science relatable i think for like someone like me especially science was never something that i felt like i could do or i never felt like it was something that i could understand or be successful in and i think we were talking a little bit about it earlier about like why do people not know about mining or understand what a how it relates to stem but i think it's it's showing people that scientists people who work in stem fields actually like help people to live better lives i think that's the one of the keys is being able to show students that your work contributes you know beyond just going to a mine every day there's so much more involved with that and it actually helps people to live their life and conduct their life in a normal way thank you um so i would ask are there any programs that you mean again i'm sure you guys speak to um counterparts at different universities it'd be interesting to know are there any programs that you kind of see some of the other schools doing that you think it would be wise for um for nevada to get and gain support behind it for businesses to be able to help get some of that support for i think from on unlv's end you know obviously the mackey school is like a prolific school in mining and they do so much and so many great things and i think they have the advantage of being in northern nevada too where the a lot of the industry is but something that i see at the mackey school that we would love to do is a mentoring program with our geoscience students and that falls a little more on the higher ed side of things but we would love to get more involved with career and industry partners and getting our students excited about working in geology or working as a geologist or working in mining those types of things are really beneficial for us and another thing i've noticed too and i've worked with some faculty members on is actually training educators so instead of just training students in k-12 reaching out to instructors teaching them how to be more effective teachers or teach more effectively so that students actually understand science and instead of just understanding it kind of like on a basic level they understand it on a level where they can apply it to their day-to-day life and they get more excited about it thank you so i would say and this is uh again people we we we sometimes go off the cuff here on our hard hat chat so i appreciate you guys uh entertaining us but i mean how are we reaching out to students who aren't traditionally entering these types of careers so um how do we help with drive equity and inclusion both i mean from core diversity to gender adversity to you know frankly economics as well i mean how do we attract kids from lower socioeconomic areas into stem and mining so i'll start off answering this one and then we can we can go from there um we do have a number of mentor programs and a number of programs that really do reach out with the intent of making that connection and setting up um relationships with students um starting in middle school and continuing through high school one of the ways well there's a number of ways that we look at diversity and inclusion within these programs one of them um and and we'll talk about these programs a little bit more as we go on um but mackie is developing a summer workshop series called nevada is awestem and um this is this particularly is a collateral collaborative program with the girl scouts of the sierra nevada and so we're intentionally connecting with junior high girls to be able to help them kind of as corey talked about see themselves as a scientist see themselves as someone who is able to step into stem and enjoy it and be good at it a number of our other programs intentionally connect with title 1 schools to make sure that we're really addressing the access piece for students that maybe wouldn't have that opportunity any other way and it's a fantastic way um one of the one of the concerns that we always talk about is the cost of these programs and making sure that they're accessible for all and that's a wonderful opportunity for business partners to be engaged to be able to create sponsorships so that we're making sure that the cost of attending is not a concern for students to be engaged and [Music] involved and i guess to fully really understand the scope um to the extent you can can you talk about what enrollment numbers look like and what diversity in those programs look like as well [Music] yeah definitely so um in particular for the workshop series and this will be the first summer that we're doing that so we'll have to stay tuned on um numbers as as we see how that develops um but we do see in our programs and in even um in stem in nevada traditionally we're at about 68 male activity and male representation in these programs and so there really is um and about the equal representation with um white representatives as well so we really need to think about how we engage women how we engage um under representative populations as well we need to increase our access for people of color and for indigenous populations and so that's where we really start to think about what business partners we can connect with and interact with um to build that inclusivity and that access piece um i know with unlv entirely just the clarification do you want like enrollment for the entire college are you thinking just for the programs what sorry i wanted to ask that you know i think we could start you mean the entire science college right because uh again uh if you're not getting people into those it's been hard to get featured in the individual programs okay yeah so the college of sciences we have about 3 500 students uh currently enrolled that's everywhere from undergraduate to uh phds and includes i believe includes postdocs as well um but we're actually kind of a unique institution at unlv we actually have more women enrolled in the college of sciences than we do men it's about a 55 45-ish split i don't know the exact numbers but we do have more women um who are enrolled in the college of sciences which is actually really cool uh especially the geoscience program the geoscience is actually a little bit higher it's about a 60 40 split so 60 of those students are women and 40 are men geoscience is the smallest of the departments within the college of sciences so it has doesn't have quite as many students as like life sciences um biology so it varies from department to department but about 3 500 or so and um you know unlv we're very proud of our diversity and we do serve a number of diverse students diverse student populations and i would say about i think it's about 35 of our students in the college of sciences are also first generation so they're first in their family to attend college to get a degree which can present challenges sometimes too um because these these kids don't have mentors in the home maybe who understand what it's like to go to college don't understand the rigor of an academic program but we tend to see that there are our most accomplished students and they're committed to the work that they're doing thank you for that insight and so that first generation is is very unique right um i think what we see in the mining industry and you know in the mine tours i've done and been out on site you know i've seen you know father and son your mother and daughter are working next to each other um and so you mean that level of exposure is is really important but uh annie it looks like you had something to add so i'll let you i'll jump in and um in our in our previous conversations corey had mentioned this as well um one of the one of the other important aspects of these programs is many of the students that we connect with it's not a question of whether they're going to go into stem or another degree it's whether they're going to go to college at all many of the students that we connect with don't even see themselves as being um having that opportunity and so just being able to connect and say hey i was just like you um i'm the first in my family to go to college i'm the first in my family to be able to to um take this path and make it work then it really opens the door and they can actually be excited and be hopeful and think about what could i do um so sometimes it's just that first step of getting over the barrier of being able to attend college at all [Music] ah thank you um so as we see a couple of questions here um from panelists and it um one panelist cassandra thank you so much for tuning in today um but she i mean speaks broadly about you mean lacking an understanding of what mining really does and really what mining is in the community so how can we help share the career opportunities outside of the local communities in order to get kids involved in um i mean and when we say kids i guess you know talking about college students but again you mean i think unlv and unr uh both do a really great job at kind of k-12 outreach so i'd be interested to know um what your thoughts are around that i i have something to add for that so ccsd has career days at their local at the local middle schools and high schools and it seems like every week i get emails please come talk at this career day about what you do as a scientist and there's you know i have a regular job i have classes to teach so i think if you know industry partners can can help out and go to these career days that's how you get the word out to these students because we can't as professors we can't be everywhere i think sometimes too it's about kind of like pounding the pavement if you will with your local schools and maybe your school district like trying to find especially if you work for a company trying to find maybe like a community relations person that works with the school district or someone who could help you get into the schools to present i think teachers particularly k through 12 teachers are always looking for something to have students do that's kind of outside of the realm of them just teaching and you know learning more about mining learning more about the process and i think what dr slotz learned with rebel science camp is exposing kids to the mining industry at such a young age and showing them what career opportunities are available really gives them a better sense and a better understanding of what that looks like down the road after they go to college and after they graduate and then when they become a geology major or they become a biology major they are not so shocked about the career opportunities that are available to them i just add one more piece to this i think um one of the uh positive outcomes of the pandemic and all of us going virtual is that it's much more accepted and it's much more of a of an um accepted um access now than i think it ever has been so we can have folks that are in industry anywhere in nevada connecting with grade schools anywhere in nevada and so just that willingness that dr sloat was talking about for industry members to um join an organization or join a society that really has an intent to connect with and share their love of their career with prospective students is huge to be able to affect that communication and and just to begin that spark of interest [Music] no thank you so if i'm hearing you guys say is that industry needs to participate a little bit more in being forward-facing and i think that's fair um you know the nevada mining association for those of you who are either new to the association or um to those of you who are not part of the association we just recently redid our strategic plan and part of our strategic plan was really to concentrate on workforce development and public outreach and you know that's really something that we're heavily committed to so i'm gonna pick on my um my unlv folks and say if you guys will invite me i will be there so yeah if you share those invites we will definitely make sure we get people i think it's you know it's easy when it's in our own backyard you mean obviously the people who are in the communities where we you primarily live and operate they know about money but you mean our ability to reach into southern nevada has been frankly something that the industry has struggled with um and you mean that second component of our i mean p
blic outreach but also workforce development of how do we also expose people you mean again and yeah i think we've had over the last 30 years we've started a really big push to you know everybody needs to go to college everybody needs to go to college i remember when i was um i mean in elementary school but we won't talk about those that decade but as an elementary school there was a huge push um that began then about you know only going to college and i think now we're starting to see the acceptance of maybe colleges of the best path for everybody so how to get into trade schools so i guess i would say what advice do you have for people who are debating kind of the trade school college direct to work you mean again as all of you being academics you may be interested to get your take on that sure i'll jump in here on this one um i really think it comes down to um having that personal connection with that student to help them figure out what is most important for them i mean at the end of the day we really want students to be stepping into fields that they love and that they connect well with and that um puts their thoughts and their ideas at their fingertips and into motion um there's many options and many opportunities even within mining to be able to be in stem oriented fields that don't require a college degree so again i think it's connecting with the student understanding the options presenting them and um helping that student to to visualize what would work best for them [Music] yeah i think i agree with that i think it's i think some type of post-secondary education is necessary for everyone whether that's a advanced degree or a bachelor's degree at a four-year university or that's a trade skill or a certificate that you earn at a community college or a trade college i think both are beneficial and both are very necessary types of workers in our economy and so my advice would just be to encourage a student to pursue whatever they're passionate about because you know you have to work for the rest of your life that's a really long time so you may as well do something that you love and and again i don't think college is for i don't think a four-year college is for everyone things look different for every type of person and people learn differently so i think it's a matter of finding out what you're passionate about and what you want to pursue thank you for that so for those of you who are new to hard hat chats again you guys know that i'm all about ending early and even if i can putting time back into people's day so i have one last question that i want to ask i would ask any of the attendees if there are any other last questions you guys want to ask please put them into the chat i saw a question about how do we interact with the faculty we will make sure that their information is available um again they are all at unlv and or the university of nevada reno so you can find them online but we'll make sure that we make their information available to you as well so my last question is you need we have a lot we have people who have parents who are parents on the line and different things like that and so you mean myself i have two under the age of five um so as you can tell i've got these bags under my eyes uh a because of work but mostly because of them but uh i would say you mean what advice do you have for students and parents giving to help encourage students go down the stem path for us at the mackey school it really is just connecting students with industry representatives who love what they do um and so we have a number of programs that do that um our becoming wise program is kind of our newest mentorship program and the intent of it is to connect um y stands for women in science engineering and so the intent is to connect um our university students who are enrolled in the wise program with high school students um to have that relational experience and to be able to have kind of an example that sets the tone and is able to be very encouraging and very um supportive in helping students understand what the options are and um what a fulfilling career career can come out of it [Music] so anyone else want to add anything else i would just say too like don't be afraid to encourage your kids or those that you know to try different things um i think we place limits on ourselves inherently sometimes just thinking like oh i don't like math i could never be a geologist or oh i don't i don't like science i could never work in a lab like there are other things that you can do outside of that sphere so don't don't place limits on yourself kind of try to broaden your experience and and get exposure to a multitude of different things i will second that and i would say as a parent be supportive if your kids are interested in science when i told my mom i was going to be a geologist she said what are you going to do look at rocks all day she was not supportive at all so she became supportive when she realized oh okay you can actually get a job doing that but i was in college when that was going on so you know support your kids when they want to do a science fair project or even a project at home when they're just playing with food or whatever they are doing so science is everywhere so just be supportive of that thanks for those comments you know i'm uh reminded of the movie quote um from will smith and the pursuit of happiness and it's you mean just a very powerful quote when his son's trying to shoot the basketball and he's like you know i was never any good at basketball i mean it discourages him and then he realizes that you know um you know he says like you know don't let anybody ever tell you you can't do something not even me right um and sometimes we do we place our of our limits on our kids and so we have to make sure that we that we free them and teach them you know if you want it go get it right so i'm looking at the chat board um i don't see any other questions and again um my rule of thumb is if i can put more time back in people's days so that they can either get home early or give their kiss their kids a hug and a kiss a little bit earlier in the afternoon uh we should all try to do that so with that i would really love to um thank um annie thank you dr slo thank you corey so much for being with us today um this is the first of what i hope will be many conversations but you mean what i really believe those takeaways are is that we we are as an industry the mining industry is looking for opportunities to engage um if you guys will put it on my radar i will get it out to my members um and corey uh you have a personal guarantee for me if you let me know i will i will make one for you um and dr sloan i will make one for you because i do believe um i mean we have a initiative in the legal field it's called take one um and it's it's about a pro bono initiative and just ask every lawyer to take one case um and so i will dedicate myself to taking one career day and my staff to take in one career day two and then we'll work on our board and everyone else how's it work well up again everyone thank you so much for your time today thanks for tuning in for our hard hat chat we look forward to speaking with you again in february where we'll be doing this from the legislative building talking about what's going on in the legislature and then in the month of march we'll be dealing um with some topics around women's uh women in mining and so we look forward to having you guys tune in to that so to everyone out in the virtual space you guys stay safe um and stay warm because the weather has turned on us whether you're the north or the south so everybody stay safe stay warm and thank you so much for your time
