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this is Richard Wolff for democracy at work responding to another ask Prof wolf question from our patreon community this one comes from Eric and the question as I read it has two parts the first one points to the fact that major Marxist theorists of the past Eric mentions Bernstein and Engels Marx's partner uh we're not friendly to workers co-ops they didn't see them as an important part of a revolution getting Beyond capitalism and they much preferred consumer co-ops and their reasoning uh ing to Eric was that the problem of making a business really serve the people it's supposed to uh it can't be solved unless you put the people for whom production is intended in charge and that he was more or they were more confident that a consumer Co-op would make sure that the buyers the consumers were deciding what was produced what its quality uh what its costs were properly done and so they tilted in favor of consumer co-ops and Eric knows that we here at democracy at work emphasize worker co-