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uh I would I would not get excited about so-called alternative Investments there's you can get all kinds of different figures but there may be there's probably at least a trillion dollars committed uh two buying in effect buying businesses and if you figure they're going to leverage them you know two for one on that you may have three trillion of buying power trying to buy businesses in a well the U.S market maybe something over 30 trillion now but there's all kinds of businesses that aren't for sale and that thing so the supply demand situation for buying businesses privately and leveraging them up has changed dramatically from what it was 10 or 20 years ago and I'm sure it doesn't happen with your Winnipeg operation but but we have seen a number of proposals uh from private Equity Funds where the returns are really not calculated in a manner that uh well they're not calculated in a manner that I would regard as honest and uh so I it's it's it's not something if I were running a pensi