State of Michigan for Change Notice 2013-2025 Form

Getting my medical license.The process is so painful that sometimes I feel like stabbing myself in the heart and gouging my eye out, and jumping off a bridge at the same time. And the most frustrating part of it is that there’s not a single thing I can do to speed things up.The website isn’t very user friendly.They request way too many documents. Like, you need to submit 6 different things to prove your citizenship. Can’t it be assumed that if the Federal Government gave me a passport, they know that it’s because I’m a citizen? Can’t it also safely be assumed that if I graduated from a residency program, I must have graduated from a medical school at some point?The website doesn’t tell you everything you need to send. After you’ve filled out the application online, there is a PDF you’re supposed to find somewhere. The PDF was the old application form. You’d fill it out by hand or by editing the PDF. If you did that, you’d see an number of appendices that told you what other documentation you were supposed to supply. But if you apply online, there’s nothing to let you know what you’re missing. So, you have to call them. When you do, they tell you that you need a bunch of stuff you’d never have guessed: a background check, forms you’re supposed to submit to your residency programs, etc. Why not put that in the online application?Then, after you do all that, you might wonder if your file is complete. So, you call. They’ll tell you that your application hasn’t been processed yet. How long till it gets processed? 3 to 4 weeks! So, they won’t even look at your file for 3 to 4 weeks. And, 3 to 4, of course, means 4. Then, when they look at your file, it might even be week 5 by the time they respond to you. At that point, they’ll tell your that your file is missing some stuff.You ask for clarification about the missing stuff, because you’re pretty sure you’ve already sent it. You hear nothing back for a week. You call them, only to hear that they thought they’d emailed you what you were supposed to fill out… You submit what they’re asking for, having wasted another week waiting. Then, they tell you that your file has been submitted for final approval. YAY!Then you’re told that, since you used to be a nurse, you should also submit a nursing license verification. Okay, no biggie, you think. You did a similar thing for Iowa a few years back. You’ll just go online and have the state of Michigan send the state of Tennessee some information about the nursing license that expired 6 years ago.You get on the Michigan website, and things are so disorganized that you can’t for the life of you figure out how to submit the verification request. Oh, and the process has changed. In 2015, you could use the Nursys verification site. But Michigan has pulled out of this process, because… just because. Now, you have to call during business hours, realize that you’re supposed to download and fill out a form, attach a money order (you can’t pay online anymore), and mail it to a P.O. Box.You do that, sending it by express mail. You call the next day to see if it’s been received. Now you’re told that if you want to send things by express mail, there’s another address you should have sent it to, an address that was never communicated to you when you talked to the Michigan people on the phone. You learn that sending mail to the P.O. Box means that it will sit there for a week, after which it will be processed by the Cashier’s office/Finance office/Treasury office, then slowly make its way to the Bureau of Licensing… this process might take 2 weeks. At this point, you’ve sent your initial application 8 weeks before. You wonder why it is that the process couldn’t be more streamlined. Why couldn’t they be a uniform process for all states? Why couldn’t they at least be a central database where healthcare providers could send their documentation, so that whenever they apply for licensing in a new state, that state can immediately receive all the relevant documentation. You’re powerless. You try to think of other things you might do.You remember that Iowa must have a copy of your nursing verification license. You wonder if you could talk to them and see if they’d share it with you. You’re told that they will emphatically not release the document to you. Why? Who knows. Anyway, they might consider releasing it to the Tennessee people if they are contacted directly by their Medical Board. You sheepishly ask the people in Tennessee if they’d be willing to contact Iowa, giving them a phone number, email, and fax number, knowing full well that it will be to no avail.You decide that maybe, if you were to track down the cashier’s office in Michigan, you could fly there and make the payment in person, in a bid to speed up the processing of your license verification request. It’s after hours now, so you can’t be sure. There’s a plane early in the morning. You could fly to Detroit, rent a car, drive to Lansing, and give it a shot. But… what if it doesn’t work? You decide to wait until the morning and call the office to see if getting there in person would make a difference. You are told that it is impossible to make a payment in person, because… rules. There’s literally not a damn thing you can do.And that, my friends, is the story of my life right now. The most frustrating part of this saga is that not only can I not work, but I’m sort of homeless right now. Let me explain. A while back, I bid on a house. I used what is called a physician loan. What my lender did not tell me is that you need an active medical license. So, we were a week from the closing date before I learned this. At this point, I had three options:Walk away from the home purchase and rent. This wouldn’t have been a terrible idea.Prolong my temporary lease at the place I was renting. I would not do this because I hated, hated, hated them with their nickle-and-diming tactics.Wait for my license.I opted for number 3, because I thought it couldn’t take much longer until I’d get my license. My belongings are currently in storage. I’m staying with my sister in Florida. It’s not the worst thing that’s ever happened to anyone in human life, but it’s still really frustrating. The only bright spot is that I get to spend time with my family. I have a nephew and two nieces here that I hadn’t seen in 9 months. They’re growing so very fast. I am constantly peppering them with mental math questions, but they seem to love me for some reason. So, all in all, things could be worse.

It depends on how much they want you. All colleges will throw buckets of merit money at you if they want you to enroll badly enough. Public universities have less money to throw than private colleges and universities but they can still make things happen if they need to.Getting in-state tuition is golden, because Michiganders pay 1/3 what out-of-state students pay. Unlike other state universities, Michigan does not allow you to switch from out-of-state to in-state tuition just by living there for a certain period of time. If you came to Ann Arbor to go to school, you will never be in-state. Even though I lived and worked in Michigan for six months before I enrolled, they never gave me in-state tuition.There are some small scholarships available to in-state students but the vast majority of the scholarships offered are available to every one. You can see them here: About ScholarshipsIf you are from a nearby state, you should look into reciprocity agreements. These agreements between states mean that, for the purposes of tuition, you are considered an in-state student if you live in a reciprocity state.

According to an old (2011) article, The Out-of-State Admissions Edge, U Mich has 40% out of state students.A more recent map in Student Profile | Undergraduate Admissions shows that out of approx. 27,700 students, Michigan residents are about 16,688 (60%) and there are also about 2,000 foreign students (7.23%).

Editorial note: Michael O'Brien posted his outstanding answer as I was drafting mine, and you'd be extremely well advised to take his advice.I think I ran across the question asker while I was in graduate school at the University of Michigan, so I feel particularly compelled to answer this question:First, to answer your overall question, there are successful graduates of virtually every college.  I feel like there is a tendency in the U.S. to place too much emphasis on getting into a prestigious college, or to place too much value on the perceived prestige of the college that one attended.  It is by far better to graduate with a respectable GPA (let's say > 3.0) from an unheralded college than to graduate (if the college will even let you graduate) with a terrible GPA (< 2.0) from a prestigious college.Second, I would reiterate Christopher Fox's point that poor study habits are probably the root cause of your poor academic performance.  To address that, you may be better off taking an academic leave of absence or transferring from Michigan and trying to rebuild your study habits in a lower-pressure academic environment.  That could be Michigan State University; that could be someplace like Oakland University or Eastern Michigan University; or it could be a community college like Washtenaw Community College.Third, since you volunteered the detail about being trespassed from the University for serially crashing corporate information sessions and student organization meetings for the free food, I want to point out a few things specific to that detail:First, most colleges do not have the volume of corporate information sessions and student organization meetings serving free food that can be found at the University of Michigan College of Engineering.Second, the primary purpose of these corporate information sessions and student organization meetings is not to feed you free food.  In many cases, the food at these events is sponsored by the company hoping to solicit job applications from Michigan Engineering students. When the sponsors see students dining and dashing without staying for the meeting, or if they see the students staying for the meeting but being overtly inattentive during the corporate presentation, this reflects poorly on the student group hosting the meeting, the College of Engineering, and the University of Michigan.Third, if you are who I think you are, you should be aware that you gained some notoriety among the engineering student organizations for serially crashing meetings for free food, including crashing several such events in a single evening.  Several student organizations received negative feedback from corporate sponsors because the sponsor noticed you taking free food and not staying for the meeting, or otherwise taking free food and being overtly inattentive.Fourth, you should know that this behavior is not normal and is not generally socially accepted.  If you can control it, then you should stop.  If you can't, then you should probably seek help in identifying why you engage in this behavior, and what you can do to bring it in control.

If you've ever lived for any signNow time in Michigan, you'd realize that Yoopers (those that live in the UP) basically consider themselves separate from those that live in the Mitten.You'll hear people whisper about this every so often. There's one huge problem which is why it will never happen: The UP has virtually no economic output. Outside of some big Indian casinos, there are no big businesses.No one complains though. Yoopers enjoy the economic strength of the Mitten. Those from the Mitten like me enjoy the natural beauty of the UP, especially in the fall.The UP during the fall is one of the most beautiful places on Earth in the autumn.(I can't seem to copy and paste URLs on mobile. Just Google “Michigan Upper Peninsula Photo Gallery”

It's not clear yet what kind of impact the new legislation will have, particularly given the structural problems associated with Michigan (state)'s heavily manufacturing-based economy.There's no question that "Right to Work" laws, by design, weaken Labor Unions' influence. But how unions' influence impacts workers is a narrower question than how the new law will affect the state's economy.Unions have many impacts on workers, including maintaining strong protections for incumbents and accompanying hostility to new entrants. While it might be true that average wages in right-to-work states go down, as Dave Hogg outlines, it's also true that the "average wages" statistics don't account for workers that are unable to find jobs - and that's a particularly bad problem in Michigan now, as it is in most of the rest of the U.S. To the extent that the new law encourages employment in Michigan, it's definitely a good thing.Don't believe me? Here's Google's Unemployment Rate chart for Michigan and for the U.S., from 2000 to the most recent data (Note: I didn't pick 2000 for any reason aside from showing some context for the current numbers):Michigan's been hit hard by the The Great Recession (2007–2012), and still has an unemployment rate higher than the rest of the U.S. And this isn't a problem that's going to be fixed easily given its large manufacturing industry - mass-employment manufacturing is difficult to maintain in the U.S., and we have a long-term economic trend of offshoring that kind of work to cheaper locales. That's not going to change, not in this global economy, no matter what unions do.Further, if unions raise average wages at the cost of higher unemployment rates, that's a public policy problem that this law will arguably address. Unemployment, particularly in the long-term, is insanely harmful to workers, and I'm not convinced that it's a better outcome to have union members enjoying relatively higher wages while non-members face higher unemployment rates. (I'm also well aware that the comparison between alternatives is never that stark, but that's why this is a particularly difficult policy issue: if it was easy, we'd have solved it).Some obvious drawbacks to the law include reduced union influence (though to the state legislators, that's obviously a feature, not a bug), and possibly lower wages, on average. But even the Washington Post article that Dave linked suggesting that result (also available here: What do ‘right-to-work’ laws do to a state’s economy?) says as one of its major points that "The broader economic effects of right-to-work laws are often difficult to disentangle." And this is true of much economic policy making: the The Economy of the United States of America is so big and so complex that it's a rarity that a given economic result may be attributable to a single cause.I think Michigan's problems are much bigger than union membership, and we'll have to wait to see definitively what happens as a result of this new law. But I'd suggest that any apocalyptic political rhetoric you're hearing is way overblown. If this change is truly a bad outcome, the voters will elect representatives that will vote to reverse it. (Democracy works!)

I was an out-of-state student who graduated from Michigan in 2010.The question is difficult since the financial angle has such a disproportionate effect on the answer. The cost may be so prohibitive to your financial situation that you shouldn’t attend, even considering all of the benefits in becoming a Wolverine (there are many).You need to take a sober look at your financial circumstances and consider whether you want to rack up potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt for this experience.But putting aside the financial angle, Michigan was a great experience. You hear this often but it’s worth repeating: Michigan has the perfect mix of stellar academics, a high standard of living, and a great social scene.Not only do you get to study with extremely intelligent professors and colleagues, but you get to live in one of the best cities in America. The school also comes together in supporting Michigan sports, which adds to that sense of community. It’s hard to find all of these benefits at one school.Also, there are tangible benefits to having a degree from Michigan once you leave Ann Arbor.Michigan does have national prestige, and I firmly believe that being a Michigan alum played some role in helping me enter law school and find my first job. By attending Michigan, you join a network that is strong in virtually every major city (especially on the East Coast). Sometimes, the fact that you’re a Michigan grad may open doors that wouldn’t be open if you attended a different school.Basically, the question is whether all of these benefits outweigh the financial costs. Only you can answer that question. But for me, the benefits did outweigh the costs (even as an out-of-state student), and I’m ultimately happy with my decision.

It depends upon your personality and areas of interest. They are both great schools and I took classes at both schools. The atmosphere and culture at UM is very different from MSU. I have many friends whose children are attending one or the other and little has changed in the intervening 50 years. MSU has it’s roots in applied sciences like agriculture and chemical engineering. UM is grounded in medicine and law, in both of which it is superior. Subjectively. UM comes across as an Ivy League wanna be. MSU make no such pretensions. I had a full ride at UM and no offer at MSU. It was the only school I applied for which did not make a financial offer. I had to go there and I have never regretted it.UM and it’s student body talk a great deal about all things liberal (in my time, it was Vietnam - UM had riots. MSU had some crankiness.) Today they talk about inclusivity, oppression and acceptance where there is little to be found on the campus. The student body and faculty have zero tolerance whatsoever for differing viewpoints. MSU was diverse in 1965 and it is now. It’s not a big talking point because it is ingrained in the culture and can be seen all over the campus. MSU has had a major international presence since they end of WWII and they have built facilities and dorms specifically to accommodate international scholars.MSU is a self contained campus whereas UM is spread out all over Ann Arbor. That may be why Ann Arbor seems to have better private entertainment facilities: clubs, restaurants, etc.I do not know anything about the UM Honors program, but I’m told that MSU’s is still excellent in humanities and math. While there, they created a cross discipline course specifically for me with the top professor in one of the disciplines as the evaluation leader. Similarly, I was allowed to take a Astronomy course for which I did not have all the prerequisites and given the extra help I needed to overcome the deficiencies. It was also helpful that I largely was surrounded by other students with great knowledge and passion for different subjects than those with which I was familiar.

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