Create Your Advance Bill Format for Facilities Effortlessly

Advance bill format for Facilities

liberate I.T is an oracle netsuite solution provider that has been servicing Australian and New Zealand companies since 2011. welcome to the latest of the liberate it webinar series I am your host Andrew linega it's great to have you uh join us today if you ever need to reach out to me my email address is there reach out for all things enhancements and changes and improvements to netsuite love to help you out okay today uh I'm going to quickly go through a few updates from our side a few updates from the netsuite send we're going to go through the advanced bill of materials and um and then back to me to wrap up as always we are recording today's session we'll make that available on our YouTube channel and on our website so um if whatever reason you miss it or you need to drop out don't worry you can catch us up uh shortly there is about a week's delay before we're able to get that up on online so just be patient today we welcome as always lots of questions from you um please use the Q a function don't use the chat I won't be monitoring that so put in your questions for Simon as as they come to you and and I'll ask him those questions as they come up so happy to do that okay uh our user event uh in person is in Auckland 14 March so that's nearly upon us and uh that means we won't be doing any webinars uh during March because we're focusing on in on that um in April we will be presenting some Advanced inventory features including the supply chain workbench and we're getting the team from ready Freight to come in and discuss what they have available as well from this weekend uh 2023.1 is upon us uh if you haven't already and it's available to you do a request to release previews so that you can do some testing primarily Focus around those areas of your business that you've had some customization uh uh in the release notes and the sneak peek blogs um actually the sneak peek blogs only you might see some information about some new suite apps that are available I think it's worth mentioning that whenever netsuite release a sweet app in relation to a new release that they typically wait for everyone to be on that new release before the suite app is sent out to Market so if you're in the first phase of the update and you're wondering why you haven't got access to a suite app usually you're going to have to wait about two or three months so um just be patient with that that's uh signature play by netsuite for some reason uh uh in the last probably three or four releases now so do keep an eye out for that and keep checking for those um also netsuite if you're undergoing through an audit and your Auditors are asking you for some compliance reports from netsuite whether it's infrastructure or um any one of these listed you can now access these yourself you don't need to come through to me anymore sadly you can just go into the netsuite account Center and request them directly from there now if you haven't got the nest wet account server set up we're happy to help out just reach out to our support desk and Josh will be more than happy to take you through how to set those up okay uh next week have um been releasing new modules particularly towards the end of last year uh they include netsuite my account so uh a quick process to get you up and running with this it's about 10 days to activate it and really it's for your end customers to log in and check things like um how far away are my items to be shipped um what are my invoices that are outstanding that I need to pay all that sort of thing logging support cases Etc so if that sounds of interest to you do reach out I can help you out with that uh I did a webinar in that end of last year as well so do check that out on the website sweet Commerce is a templated approach to a new website integrated with the netsuite platform B2B only at this stage lots of themes and extensions to choose from love to talk to you about that if you're currently exploring in your website small count is another new feature so it's really for stock takes in a warehouse with a mobile device [Music] and some things to note you obviously need the advanced inventory feature or module for that to work so you need to be licensed for that but most customers are and if you've actually got stock and the other thing is you need to be a Sweet Success account or have one world enabled as well but if you're unsure about any of that to to reach out that just streamlines the whole stock take process it's really cool talking of really cool if you're after some better insights into netsuite and that's way to leverage some of the Oracle data analytics and made that available to netsuite customers so this is brand new right at the end of last year um it's hot off the press would love to talk you through some of the information and insights you can get from the business what I like about this is it doesn't restrict itself just to netsuite data you can access a range of other data that's in in your company and you can consolidate that in the one spot to make some better decisions so one of the webinars that I saw in that what I really liked was that you could obviously measure your ad spend with Google Adwords and then see how that then translates into online sales through your e-commerce platform and and see if you're actually getting the return on investment that you you think you might be so that's that's um just one example of being able to bring together some disparate data for better decision making if you have the company-wide learning cloud support pass in addition to the liberate team is the two webinars each month the next week team do their own these are behind the paywall of the learning cloud support pass but if you've got that here are some upcoming webinars that the the network team have in store for you usually focused around reporting and finance so if that's you do check that out okay that's uh enough for me today uh I'm going to introduce Simon Bernard most of you probably know Simon uh Simon's going to take us through the advanced bill of materials good day Simon how are you um that's a bad thank you Andrew thanks for that um I'll just share my screen and then we can go into a quick presentation and we'll get into netsuite and kind of show show Advanced building materials and how it works and some examples along the way so uh do bear with me that's that's amazing uh right now we are finding that netsuite uh I guess uh looking to a sunset the what they call a standard bill of materials and wanting to have everyone migrate eventually to Advanced building materials and um so we thought we'd planned this for quite some time ago but it seems to be quite pertinent now some of the customers we're finding are are being asked to to migrate across which is not a complicated process but we thought hey this is great timing in terms of getting a better understanding of what is this Advanced building materials so thanks Simon I really appreciate it oh um we'll just go a quick through a quick um presentation deck and then we'll get into the slides um so as Andrew mentioned uh my name's Simon I've been a next week consultant about 10 years and I've predominantly um specialize in the manufacturing space so I'm working in manufacturing companies and using next week to streamline how they get things uh for production at the door to customers um so Andrew briefly mentioned the standard bill of materials uh for those who don't know that is a feature an aspect where you have an assembly item where you list the components and that is a theory or bill of materials for every product you ever make regardless of where you manufacture it and which locations you use and it doesn't support multiple bombs which we'll see in a second um as of 23.1 the support for that feature will end and that's we um will recommend you that you update actually upgrades as an advanced bit of material so if you don't do that now you really should be doing that because it's no longer supported so if you did get errors using their Standard Building Materials then um that's really what supported and we don't really have many things to to do to help that um if you do turn it on which you should do and it's free of charge then it will automatically convert all your single bombs into advanced building materials and then you're like automatically for you so there's no work for you to do as the end user you just have to turn it on and then it will create a bill of materials against an assembly item but interior you could add two or three more ability tools if you wanted to um yeah and that's as of this release so if you're not in that release yet because there's um people get upgraded over a month or two um you could do it for the release or you could just do it after the release it's whatever suits you really so advancement of materials uh The Core Essence of it really is to have more than one bomb against an assembly item and there could be a number of reasons why you do that so let's imagine that you produce something in Auckland and you have you using greens one two and three but that same item you could produce in Christchurch and you use a very different set of ingredients for whatever reason you still produce one item but depending on where you manufacture it you could use a different uh list of ingredients and we'll go into an example of where that could be used in a moment what we can also do using Advanced building materials is to Define yields which means that if I lose some production if I lose some some of the material in the manufacturing process you can you can build that into the tolerance of the Bill of material so um you'll use more to make the product but you've allowed an element of yield from let's say the one meter beam you're going to use you'll use 85 and actually so we'll go into that second and I saw I add on to that we'll actually look at um routings so routings in the next week census how do I capture um labor and machine costs and add that into the finished cost of the product that I'm manufacturing um there are a number of ways to do this but routings in my experience has a number of different ways that we can um we can get that in a more efficient way and there are some added benefits to using Manufacturing routings in terms of planning work centers and also changing the priority of which work orders get manufactured first and actually use that as a view for the shop law um so as I mentioned just before this is a demo and we'll go through a typical um example of an assembly item where I've created a couple of Builder materials I'll show you the differences between them um I'll actually give you some really really easy ways to take a bill of materials that is for a red bike copy it take an ingredient off add a new ingredient on and actually take that same core bill of materials with a slight change and create a different version of it in my examples we'll be using the red bike and the blue bike um and I'll show you how along the way what changes I'm going to make so you can see why I'm doing it and the benefit to do that we'll also look at a manufacturing routing we talked about it very briefly before but let's just see what's comprised of how do you use it and then we'll take an example through where we'll we'll create a work order for the red bike using a routing and a bill of materials and actually show you what happens when you use the routings to produce a product um and like the core benefit that is you actually put the raw material costs as well as labor and machine recovery costs into the finished product which Theory means that your cost of goods sold is a more accurate reflection because you've not just got material costs going into cogs you've actually got um a recovery of Labor and machine costs so you've got a more accurate reflection of your margin um so that's a very quick introduction of what the demo is going to have now I'll actually step right into it so I'm going to stop sharing screens for a couple of seconds and then get log into netsuite and get that part of the demo going so okay one second and so hopefully what you can now see on your screen is a red bike and what in a demo account what I have is a red bike it's just the standard assembly item but with Advanced bill of materials um you have the option to add multiple bill of materials so in the standard full of materials functionality which as I mentioned before is going to be phased out what you would see on the screen is just a screen where you would list the ingredients and that would be your list of ingredients regardless of which legal entity you're producing the goods in and also which location you're producing it in um as in my example I've got a bit of materials that I can manufacture this for in Auckland and I can also manufacture this in Christchurch um the structure of a bill of materials is that a bit of materials has revision and revisions are quite useful because depending on when I'm manufacturing this product will determine which set of ingredients I'm going to use and I will take you through the differences between the two revisions here so in the 2023 revision a revision in its raw form is a list of ingredients that I'm going to use with quantities and yields to produce one of this product so to produce this one red bike I'm going to use all these ingredients and uh yeah with these components so to make uh one of my bike I'm going to use two wheels one chain and as we go through the rest of it what is also useful is I can control which set of ingredients I use depending on the start and end date so for the year 2023 this is my set of ingredients um but in 2024 I'm going to use a different set of ingredients and the big reason for this would be that let's imagine you know it ahead of time that the product you're using today to manufacture the red bike is going to be phased out by supplier or you can't get it anymore and you're being given advanced notice that you have to buy a different item to produce the same product you can actually substitute you can create a revision that is for next year or even every six months depends on depends on how often you control your revisions um so in this example here I in 2023 I would use a chain but I know that in 2024 that product I can't buy I can't manufacture it I can't have that anymore so going into 2024 I am going to make sure that when I produce the red bike I'm going to use a different chain to make sure I can still manufacture what I want um for the red bike which I'm selling and therefore manufacturing you're not limited necessarily to one revision per bomb but you are limited to is one active revision so um you can't have two revisions that you actually want to use revision two today and revision one tomorrow you always have one active revision against the bill of materials and as you as the first one expires you can now be kicking into using the 2024 one I'll show you where this kicks in when we create the work order because the data production determines which list of ingredients you're going to be using to manufacture the goods that's how netsuite controls which revision you're going to use um or we also look we'll look at is the yields right so we I mentioned very early much earlier that I know that out of one meter of steel let's say I'm gonna get 85 so to me if I need to use a meter I have to run that out in the element scrap when I'm producing this so it allows you to actually over issue materials to the work order to make sure that at the end of it you've got enough in there so you can issue the full quantity uh working in the apprentless tree we would always allow an element of scrap into what we put on the bomb to make sure that I get out of it at least a single unit that I can give to the product to make it um so that's a very quick introduction of what a bit of materials is um and again it can be location based so in the red bike here just to show you a difference um the reason why these two bombs different is that actually when I manufacture this item in Christchurch I don't use brake wire I use a different version of a brake wire so for Christchurch it could be a localized example but if I was to manufacture this item in China then I could be using a very different brake wire because I can buy it quicker than I can import it let's say so I can still I can use a different product depending on where it's made to still manufacture a red bike so it allows you the ability to not have one set ingredients across every location you manufacture it you can actually have a different bill of materials that still makes a red bike but you might be using a different set of ingredients for whatever reason now both of those hang off the the red bike and depending on where you raise the work order to manufacture it will determine which um which bill of materials and which revision is going to use um in addition to that I mentioned manufacturing routing so our manufacturing routing is a way for you to get it through a manufacturing process but we're covering labor and recovering um things such as machine costs and overheads you might have machine running costs machine overheads we can all capture those and put them on a routing um harassing can have different operations so in this case I've got one operation called a production assembly but you might have a routing that says um assembly uh production picking and packing you might have different labor elements and different charges that you want to recover as this goes through a manufacturing process um for some of the companies that I work for they will recover the costs of an oven because it's been put in an oven to cook and then when it's taken out they're going to do some recovery on the Assembly of that product and then they're going to do another operation called shipping because they they want to put those costs either through a labor rate or a machine into the cost of the finished product when it's manufactured um you will also know is that I've got two routings so in some organizations that I've been into they have lines so line one I can put the red bike through and I can put it through line two now sometimes line one will have a quick throughput time than line two so for line one it's going to take me 60 Minutes to put it through per unit but actually on line two it will only take 30 minutes because I might have a better machine I might have more skilled operators on that second line which means that the cost it will take in terms of time and dollars to put it through line two will be significantly quicker than it would be to put it through line one that might be a reason why I do that um and because uh it's a quicker operation I want to put to be less cost and less time into the cost of the product when I'm manufacturing it so that's the reason why you might have multiple routings again if you had a routing attached to the Christchurch bill of materials then it might take longer to put it through the Christchurch manufacturing facility because they've got less specialized equipment they're in this case the production of the frame let's say would take three hours instead of two you can add that as a real uh operation and then you can recover the cost ingly depending on how long it physically takes um to put it through that process either in Auckland or in Christchurch or wherever you're getting it manufactured if you didn't have routings turned on a bit like this where you can't um recover against different operations and different work centers the old-fashioned way to recover labor and also Machinery if you want to is to add for the bill of materials uh I'll just go into it quickly you would add a item on the bill of materials called Labor recovery um but that is just a notional one-off charge that you would put let's say fifty dollars and if it takes one goes through fifty dollars and you produce 10 then it would add 500 into the cost of the manufacturing process but it's not necessarily as uh sophisticated is pulling it through a routing arousing allows me to plan work centers see the capacity on each production line in each location I can plan things around that's not part of what I'm showing you today but that is the key difference of using a routing where you can actually use a task scheduler to see um what work is on which production line uh and reschedule if you need to and it can go uh further than that um so with that said um we there's an easy so if you've got let's imagine you started selling a blue bike today but the difference between a blue bike and a red bike in terms of a bill of materials is just a paint color instead of going into a new build of materials and trying to work out what things I need to make to produce a blue bike I could take the bill of materials for a red bike which is this make a copy of it and we'll do this in real time so do blue and I'm going to stick to this to Auckland I've now created a blue bike bullet materials and all I'm now going to do is change the list of ingredients for the blue bike so this is because I've copied it this was the red bikes list of ingredients I can now substitute this if the only difference is blue paint and put that in and I might use two liters of that to make one of these so I'm going to do the first the 2023 and actually for 2024 I'm I still want to produce that blue bike so I'm going to put that in the paint and now to link this bill of materials to a blue bike assembly item all I have to do is to come into the blue the blue bike assembly item and just assign the bill of materials that I've just created so I didn't spend two hours trying to build a materials from scratch and some of you will have bill of materials uh maybe 100 lines so to to do that from scratches Point um it would be quite difficult and actually quite time consuming this is a very easy way just to um quickly create a new bit of materials um that is it's almost like a save as make a change and then apply that to the the other product and now this is ready for me to use um from the manufacturing process right things you would you would you would have to you could be in theory do the same thing he's not going to copy the writings across but that's in theory how you would take static a bill of materials that is pretty generic take one ingredient I'll put one ingredient on and apply that to a new product that you're selling so we've gone through the the mechanics of what an assembly item is how we add Builder materials revision control let's actually take the red bike can actually manufacture one and see what happens when we use the bullet materials as an example and then also how do we what does that look like at the end in terms of recovery for uh labor and machine costs hey Simon I've got a quick question for you from Gilbert if that's all right sure he's asked can you track consumption of different materials that is break wire or paint could that be consumed as it were example one and a half meters is used per bomb and we have 100 meters in stock can and would netsuite consume and take the wire out of stock so what happens what happens is when we create the work order and we'll go through that now we'll correct the work order for the red bike and when we release the work order it will commit the stock that it needs from inventory then when you tell the system you've manufactured the red bike it will deduct from inventory what you used you'll see it here in a moment that if you use if the bomb said one and a half meters to produce the red bike but you actually use three you can actually key in the actual used quantity to say that I actually use three meters instead of one and a half and when you build the work order it it consumes three from stock not one and a half I'm not sure if that answers the question yeah I think it does um yeah and I think it's important to note that no one can sell that stock while it's committed in the manufacturing process right yeah yeah that's perfect man thank you so on a work order here we've got a couple of ways to do this if you want to use a routing and start recovering labor from the the routings that I showed you earlier we need to take the word work in progress so work in progress is Us in in the sense that when we release the work order we can actually track the values the value of workers in work in progress if you don't take work in progress what all you'll be doing here is using the bill of materials that you've got and taking that to the end and no labor costs so uh with working progress turned on you can use the routing to recover labor and Machinery if you don't use that then you would just be recovering the cost of the raw materials to produce the red bike because I've talked about routings a lot I'm going to take work in progress um this screen is obviously a demo account but the key things I'm interested in while I'm on here is the NC that I'm building the stock into zooming slightly and the location so once I once I get the red bike is there there's still nothing there but the location determines what ingredients we're going to be using so when I set the location which is something here to Auckland then it's going to default the list of ingredients now I mentioned before that the production start that determines which set of ingredients we get so in my previous example I had two revisions one for 2023 and it uses seven ingredients for 2024 it uses a different set of ingredients so if we look at what's the ingredients are now so I've got this I'm expecting probably the chains change literally to change when I change the production start date to 2024 so this is how netsuite knows which revision to use because when it's being manufactured that will be the the list of ingredients we're going to use to produce this going forwards um if you don't have revisions you can just have one revision that has no end date and it will just use the same set of ingredients for the End of Time what can also be done is if let's say for this particular work order as an example I don't want to use brake wire I want to use a different braking material for this work order on its own I can choose a different material because sometimes you'll get to the manufacturing process and actually I haven't got enough brake wire there's something very similar on the Shelf next to it that I do have in stock to produce this work order for this bike I'm going to take that off and add the new ingredient on and therefore I can still continue the manufacturing process um I'm going to change the date back to 2023 because um I'll have enough stock of all the ingredients for this and yeah so we go up here I'm going to tip I'm going to turn on work in progress by default it's going to choose line one because against the assembly item I get to choose what is my preferred way of manufacturing this in in terms of Labor and um uh for the routings so you can see here that against the routines I've got it preferred I could if I wanted to schedule this to line two which is here I could change my mind and put it through line two it it will default to line one because at least it's giving you a default if whatever reason the schedule is coming in and planning this they will go actually line one's full I'm going to put line two because it needs some work or I need a rush order I can put it online too because I know it takes half as long that I can choose line two again line two determines the operations and also how much time it takes to produce one through the machine uh or through the work center um so that's the main reason why I do that um so I'm gonna and in terms of the stock commitment when I release a work order releasing the work order will commit quantities here to the work order so as Andrew mentioned there when a stock item gets committed it can't be used for anything else if I'm committing two of these and something else needs it well that's it's a bit tough you can it's a decision to be made do you take away the stock from this work order to give it to another one that's a different process but when I release a work order it is going to be committing each of these ingredients to this work order that I can then use in the manufacturing process all right it says it is a demo account so it has taken a little time Okay cool so now I've released the work Builder what will happen is it's committed the stock of each of these ingredients I'm not here for the red paint I I deliberately set this item as a non-stopped item so if you sometimes you'll have things that you're going to consume in the manufacturing process that you just buy in but you never stock them so screws nuts and bolts they're very typical things that need to go on the bill of materials but you buy them in but you're not physically doing you're not accounting for the amount of stock that's actually in the show so for paint and you receive a million liters of paint are you going to stop them in inventory and store them on the balance sheet You could argue yes or no nuts impossible probably not but the idea here is that I've committed no pain because it's not a stopped item I've just used this as a non-stopped item that I will buy but I will be consuming it and therefore adding costs when I bring it into the into the the cost of this so with work in progress turned on you get these two buttons here so you can in theory issue the stock to the floor which means it will go into work in progress and then also enter the time you've done so you could issue the stock which will take it out your stock system and put it into work in progress and entering a completion is telling the system that it's gone through operation one and two so let's imagine it's just finished its manufacturing process I'm logging my time against the operation so that will add the recovery in if I don't want to do two separate things of issuing the stock and then also issuing time my default would be to say that once I've built the thing it's gone through his manufacturing process I've consumed all the materials and I've actually made a red bike I'm going to use enter completion with backlash it sounds a mouthful that can be renamed but it's basically telling the work order that I've done exactly what you've asked me to do I have produced one of these red bikes as we go down here it will that's it will actually ask you to tell me the operations you you've completed so if the work if work center one is doing their bit they would do I've done production if I've got a second work center that does something else you could then say actually I'm completing operation two this this item is not in stock until every operation on that list of operations is complete because if you've got 10 people doing 10 different things the last operation will be the bit where it puts the red bike into stock and also flush all the recoveries into the cost of the finished goods um because if you had the red bike in stock after the first operation but still 10 left well that's it's not really true is it it's still work in progress until the last operation has been completed I'm going to enter the completed quantity and what next week will do is for each of the components one times the standard bomb will be the number of components you're going to consume if I did in real life actually use 10 meters of brake wire and I'm not going to use four wheels but um I'm going to maybe use two meters of chain this is where you're telling the system how much stock you physically use to manufacture the item so this therefore makes my stock on hand more more correct because I've told the system I got over consumed what the bomb told me to in terms of operations the amount of money going into the cost of the product is 60 Minutes of Labor and 60 Minutes of machine timer if whatever reason it took an hour and a half to put it through the oven through the production facility I could change the machine run time to 90. oops wrong number and then set the labor runtime sorry 90 and then it took me two hours these minutes by changing the default time to produce one of these items it's a 1920 it's going to increase the cost of the product when it's built because I'm now adding more labor and more machine time into the cost of the product because that's what happens sometimes people will just use the standard 60 minutes and just let it be there and if if it's five minutes over there that's it's up to them but if it did take significantly longer what I'm showing you is you can issue more time in terms of machine and labor to increase the cost of physically it occurs when you're producing it um so I've added the time I've changed the components of how much I used I'm therefore going to hit save um and what we should see in a minute is the projected value of this product is now um 452.50 of which we can show you where is that cost coming from so that's the value of the red bike it's clearing work in progress but also um crediting stock because it's consumed the raw materials to make something worth that um as we go down here we'll see we're seeing that stock in hand we're consuming the we're clearing work in progress and also eating stock when we get down to the bottom this uh this is where we're doing a labor recovery so behind the routing I've got a labor item which posts to a recovery account and then the machine time that I'm capturing is also posting to a recovery account behind the scenes of the routing so this is where we get the 300 worth of Labor and machine recovery and as I mentioned when you issue when you create a work order with work in progress turned on you've now got a value setting your work in progress when you build the work order and issue the stock and so you've finished it's clearing work in progress consuming the materials and actually pulling something into stock that is the combination of the two [Music] um and that's pretty much it in terms of um the uh the assembly built the assembly items with the bombs and revisions and also Manufacturing routings um with this um and now it's I think the demo I've got prepared finished Andrew I can't happy to take any questions we still got a bit of timeline so I'm having to take questions or revisit things if things aren't clear thanks Simon uh we do have another question from Gil this time uh and he asked a little while ago sorry but I you're on a on a roll and I didn't want to interrupt you but um the question is could you commit stock before it's released uh an example he's given is that there are times when they're waiting on one part to arrive to release the job but find that when that part arrives there might be another piece of stock that is that is required but it's subsequently been taken so it's like a juggling Act of trying to get all the pieces together to assemble symbol of thing but um it's gone out the door I think yeah traditionally if a planned work order especially if you're planning it ahead of time a planned work or who's not going to be committing stock um so if I don't if I planned it we'll show it as planned just to just follow the story because planned work order could be something like this and you can see here nothing's been committed it's not even been good yeah because a planet work would uh may or may not come off I might be deciding these are all the work orders that I've got as planned today you couldn't really choose to release work order one which was great today but then you might you might actually release work order eight before you release work on one plan work orders are there because um especially if you're using things such as MRP which is going to generate work orders for the future you might leave them as planned until you're ready to schedule them in them in your scheduling system so plant work order is not really they're designed to to put the intent to produce something only when you release them will it commit stock now if you did have an issue Where You released it and another work order got stock you can use something called reallocate items which allows you to pinch the stock that Network allocated to the first work order and actually take it away and actually issue it to work order number 10. so that would be the only really way to do it but plan work orders as you can see here it's the intent to build and I'm when I'm ready to release when I release it that's the act of committing stock or even going to back all day if you don't have it I know that you can't build a work order unless all the ingredients have at least one commitment so if you've had enough to produce two and the work was also ten and that's what it would allow you to produce the two but not ten because you don't have enough stock I'm not sure so yeah it's an unfortunate uh notes that sorry but that we might be able to find ways just to mitigate that um or your girl yeah thanks sorry it's good good to know hi any other questions yes I've got a question from Marie uh and that is can you confirm that there is no there is still no ability to add negative items in a bomb to return items to stock rather than consume them that's interesting and it is a very it's a question I get asked a lot and you can't that's where bombs don't allow negative stock so you can't you couldn't in theory have a and we can try it in real time I always get told off by the by the revision that you can't have a negative line um yeah I do know what you mean because you're trying to subscribe when you're trying to substitute one after then put something back on um so we want to put the brake wire on again let's say yeah that's that one uh yeah so it doesn't allow negatives um quite interesting to hear the use case of what sometimes yeah the use case of why you would want to take something off that physically isn't in it because what you're traditionally for the bill of materials and the revisions is I need to have at least one of these or even half a half of something to make something but if you're taking something off nothing then that's obviously that's the logic one that's in theory throwing um this issue yeah the mic will work around so we can discuss how you do that um but yeah that's you can actually turn that offline in the range look at the weakness of why you do that and how we solve it generously say she was happy to share her issues at any time I'll show you that that's right yep I've got another question from color they're rolling in now assignment which is great can a revision expiry be based on a on consumption of one ingredient instead of a date I used to be the case though with standard bombs you you would have you could have the expiry of the ingredient that that would that's the way it used to work but yeah in this method the whole thing hasn't expired yet so if one particular ingredient did expire which in theory I my other example did produce where the chain I know that I can't buy this chain and at the end of 2023 I have to have a new revision that allows me to buy a different chains so in the old way of doing things you could I don't have a screenshot available in the old fashioned way you could have an ex uh the revision controller component level in the advanced build of materials world that is now driven to the whole revision it used to be a component level now it's not it's now at revision level which is why I've got the second uh the second revision the 21st year so if you had say four wheels left in stock and you've just built two bikes and you know there's no way to get more of those types of Wheels there's not a way to trigger a new revision then uh you'd have to create a new one or the particular work order where you're going to use two of wheel one and two of wheel two then you can control that at the work of the level knowing that you've got to use the last two of the old code and then you would add an extra line that recovers the the uh the stock of the new wheel um okay thanks thanks Simon we've got another question from Andrea last one so far uh can you have a work order and I haven't read this yet can you have a work order which has one operation but goes for more than one and produces a number of finished goods but not the entire quantity of the work order so I've got an exam so our work order will only ever produce one finished good that's always been the way and that's where it works so with one work order it's a red bike and that's the only the red bike unless you've got some unless you have Phantoms which allows you to in theory make let's imagine you use the green bike to make a red bike so you've got the bomb of the red bike and then the bottom of the green bike that interior is an easy way to to make the green bike at the same time as a red bike and what you're left with is a road bike at the end if that makes sense perhaps can I give you Andrew's example yeah uh so for example a work order for 10 000 units of shampoo bottles and in one day they've made two and a half thousand yeah uh with seven and a half thousand to go can we have two and a half thousand units sitting in the finished good stock or do we need to wait for the entire work order to be completed okay let's go that's so that's a definite uh issue can so um so for this work order here I'm going to produce 10 so let's release it so in the example there I've got a work order for 10 000 or in this case 10 I'm going to produce two today so I'll build two and then in four days time when I built the eight I'll build the eight when I build them so yes you can do that so if we release the work order for ten hopefully I've run a stock in to make 10. so in this case you know okay I'll enter the completion so I'll make two now which tells the system I've actually made two so I can do okay two of them that's a good and then so I put two of the ten that I need and actually tomorrow or the day after I make an extra three I'll come back into the same work order and then tell the system that I've made an additional three okay so what that looks like now is on the work order itself I've got manufacturing day one I produced two manufacturing day two I produce three and I'm left with what looks like this does that answer the question I'd say it makes sense to me I think the answer is yes you don't need Advanced build materials to do that standard work order process so or even routings and stuff that's the way standard netspeed works one work order for a thousand I can I could in theory build one at a time if I wanted to turn a thousand work all the completions or work all the builds um that's nothing new as part of advanced bombs that's pretty much a standard feature throughout the work order process in general great awesome a question from Marie is turning on the advanced bill of materials all you need to do to make it live uh or is there anything else that we need to do she's asked I assume you need to set up the routes routes as well the routing's uh uh so yeah separate so if you were understandability materials today all you would have to do and we do Libra actually did a blog post on this so the steps of how you do that are pretty straightforward but I think an enable features if you're on the standard bombs to go to the new ones all you have to do is turn on Advanced building materials I was a bit too quick there so I went to enable features items and inventory and then I went to Advanced bigger materials yep in terms of manufacturing and so the routings and stuff I think that's part of weapon marketing um it's it's very much linked into advanced building materials but it is a separate I guess licensing option yeah but you don't need it um yeah but for the for the bombs so yeah yeah it's not dependent on writings to work advancement of materials without recovering labor on the routings they're two separate pieces but they kind of Interlink if you don't want to use routings then you could just add a notion of charge to the the revision to recover labor so you might have a labor charge on that but it's not going to push the work centers recover like uh it's not going to be as sophisticated as a routing yeah and to enable Advanced building materials we'd suggest people do that in the sandbox first yeah turn it on the sandbox see what it does because what in theory would what it will in theory do would be to take your single bomb and basically create a revision sorry a a bill of materials with a revision so that's what it's done I've seen it before where you go from one single bomb on a product that is listed by components when you turn it on it basically creates um a basically creates the Builder materials and revision of the same name so it'll just literally create one of these for you um I guess the benefit to that is actually if you wanted to add an additional you if you didn't have the ability to have multiple good materials depending on location let's say or if it's made in China as opposed to the UK then you could now start implementing that as a business change where you can have different lists of ingredients depending on which location or even which legal entities producing the goods for you great thanks Simon uh last one I think from Chloe and that is can you do a bomb in Cascade like bomb one have another bomb two inside of it um so when you create the work order it will show all the materials yes so we have a feature called Phantoms that I can show you I actually show it to you so the example isn't going to be that great because um I'm using red bikes and blue bikes the blue bike on here and then I go into the assembly I think it's I think there's a feature called use Phantom and that will allow me to um let's see that I think this is the answer to your question Chloe so if I raise a welcome to now foreign yeah so the answer that question there Chloe I've added the blue bike which is an assembled item onto the bill of materials of another assembled item but it lists the ingredients that I need to make this so the benefit of using what you've just described though is you would have one work order that lists all of the ingredients to produce a red bike even if it's got sub assemblies which means that you'll you can consume as you go so you'll can you'll pick all of these you'll make one of those and actually when you tell them that's what you've built a red bike you've actually consumed as you've gone if you don't have Phantoms which would what we've just described there you'd have to have a work order to produce the blue bike you can put it into stock and then you build the work order for the red bike knowing that you've got to consume the blue bike as part of the the work order for the red bike if that makes sense I've learned you get the idea here that yeah Phantom you would not have the ingredients on the bomb you would just have blue bike you'd have to manufacture that on a separate work order put it into stock and then when you build the red bike you'll consume the blue bike which you've just manufactured this takes that away and it allows you to consume all the ingredients to make the blue bike and then when you put when you build the red bike you you're consuming as you go not having two separate work order tickets yeah it's a feature called phantom um which is a pretty neat feature it does take away especially if you've got 10 or 15 sub-assemblies it avoids 15 work orders when you've got one and the way you do that is just to designate that it is um marks some Services Phantom nice no I get that so no no doubt that the team here do you as well um uh another question from Rebecca and that is when multiple batches are produced from one manufacturing run the actual componentry used is slightly more than what the bomb States is there a way to assign the real cost to all the units across all batches we find that when we do work order completions it's not easy to then update the cost of the initial batches so when you and this is not a long example by any means but let's imagine this was because if this is a lot number product you'd have to punch in what what Lot number you produced so if you did over so if you made lot one and this is one one completion against that all of the entries here so two times six whatever that would go into the cost of that lot because Network knows that to make Lot number one these are all the ingredients and these are all the operations that were involved to make that so the cost shouldn't be reflected from just issuing the correct amount of materials and the correct amount of Labor I thank you fan that um it's not doing that but we can definitely have a look at that to see if that and it also depends on your costing method for average well the average cost could fluctuate a little bit but if your lock costed then in theory the cost of the ingredients that you're using to produce lot one and the labor to produce lot one should give you the true cost of the lot if whatever reason you define that oh someone said six but I use 20. the most logical way if it allows you to do that is to edit the completion that you use to produce lot one and then just update the ingredients so the stock is reflected accurately and also the the labor and the Machine overheads thanks Simon not sure if we entered that one I mean that made sense oh no Rebecca's saying okay thanks great awesome if it doesn't make sense we can have a chat but um yeah yeah yeah from the face of the question it kind of makes sense just to edit the thing that put lot wanting to stop um if you didn't want to do that you could in theory do a stock adjustment where you were just out lot one at fifty dollars and because you know what it should cost then you could adjust it back in a lot but you could adjust it back in at a different value but you'd be writing off the difference to an adjustment account got you thanks Simon uh I think I think we'll wrap it up there mate um no I think today's got the most q a we've ever had on a on a webinar so I'm really stoked so thank you presentation skills right there anything else so I think I think you've prompted a lot of people to think into how they're how they're using bombs right now and ask those questions so that's great we hope this video gave you the information you were after if you have any further questions get in touch with us using the links in the description at