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So speaking of skyrocketing Insurance shall we uh we'll get to Luigi mangion and the current developments in the case and also the social F Well I wouldn't go that far uh he didn't follow any of us thank God you I was I was a little worried about that you were like and then I was like okay Dodge that one well I don't I don't need New York Times up my ass talk asking me about why this guy was a was a fan or anything like that even though we did swim in very very similar circles um so we've got two comedians weighing in Joe Rogan and Bill Burr with some cutting analysis of the yes we'll get to that next let's take a listen to The Comedians I think this guy if I had a guess some guy got over apparently that company is really bad on denying claims 30 34% denial rate something normal is like 16 yeah so those guys I don't think anybody's going to like be crying too hard over that guy yeah maybe his family but that's about it it it's a dirty dirty business business of insurance is gross it's gross and especially healthcare insurance just gross you know what's annoying me about this this kid who killed this CEO is none of these news programs are talking about the incredible lack of empathy from the general public about this be because of how these insurance companies treat people when they at their most vulnerable after we've all given them our money every month and now we finally need you and all you do is deny us and then these and all of these things are taking the pictures of their CEOs off their websites you know I got to be honest with you okay I love that the that CEOs are afraid right now you should be by and large you're all a bunch of selfish greedy pieces of and a lot of you are mass murderers you just don't pull the trigger that's why it looks clean that's why these people look oh my god oh he was just you know walking into a hotel it's like okay well what was his job what did he do what was the results of it woo Bill my God the beeps couldn't even keep up with it oh yeah that was uh that was interesting uh you know got I mean look it it's funny I knew that the comedians were going to have a field day with this one but with Bill I don't even think he's joking he just completely you already know that there's going to be some great great sets uh that come out of this entire thing but uh yeah he certainly is trying to capture I would guess what the under underr internet mood of the country um and before we get to Elizabeth Warren you know we we just have to put some of this stuff up there because you can see that there is a ground swell out there I'm not endorsing it but it is certainly out there uh let's go ahead and put uh what is it C3 up there on the screen we play some vo of this people are posting wanted pictures apparently all over the city of New York um showing the photos of CEOs of various different healthare companies um you also have uh let's go to the next one up there on the screen you have the book the delay deny defend book which was cited on the shell casings by Luigi mangioni that has surg to number three on the Amazon bestseller list uh next C5 please uh the jacket apparently worn by mangion is quote flying off the shelves uh this is uh let's see a similar green truck yeah I mean to be honest you know this is just a basic green trucker jacket I don't really know what's so special about it uh the sherpa line hooded jacket from Levis rings in at $225 quote flying off the shelves After People speculated it was the same coat uh that was worn there I mean I guess you know I'll put in a plug for trucker jackets specifically Levi's trucker jackets they can be very stylish they are very nice um but yeah you could see there is a lot of hidden energy uh uh behind this so much so that apparently people have been offering to the lawyer of Luigi Manion to pay his legal bills something that the lawyer addressed in an interview let's take a listen but but you said you were retained today one big question that everyone has is are you being paid by his family to represent him yeah I'm I'm not going to comment on that well can you say that it it's not not his family who is who is asking you to retain him or to retaining you to represent him I'm not going to comment on I'm not going to comment on that um that's uh I've been retained I'm not court appointed I've been retained and that's all I can tell you we had seen reports earlier that that there was you know people were inundating you with with offers to help pay for his his legal bills is that accurate um I uh I have re seen some emails I have not seen them personally but my understanding from my staff is people are uh are doing that the people are reaching out to you and offering to help pay for his legal bills that's correct do you would you accept those offers I mean I imagine you maybe have I don't know have you ever gotten that before nah n be honest with you I probably wouldn't why do you think you would not accept that I don't know I just don't I don't know I just don't feel comfortable about that um so I don't know I I haven't given that much thought but I'm not look you know I I you know obviously my client appreciates the support that he has but I don't know I just it it I'd have to look in but it just doesn't sit right with me really I love how non plus this guy is through the entire injury refuses to look at the camera giv extremely short answers yeah exactly it's like all the worst things you could possibly ask for in a television guest uh he's doing of not giving anything clear so what do you think you think the family's paying him I think so yeah you got I would think so I mean they're super wealthy right you know right but yeah let let the public pay if they want to pay ah maybe but but then that's the other question is that uh did somebody reach out and preemptively you know retain C I would assume it's the family he went he went to Gilman uh which is like the one of the most expensive schools in the Maryland area no question family's got money yeah you could no I mean that's already been coming out is that his own family has been very wealthy they own a bunch of golf courses apparently or whatever and then what if they own golf courses they his brother's a GOP State his cousin his cousin is a GOP state legislator uh so clearly they're influential apparently very well known in the Baltimore area the mangion family um so yeah Ryan what do you think of all this well the first yeah the first politician to really kind of Channel some of this and she's getting a lot of backlash uh is Elizabeth Warren I think this this is a really interesting interview and when you watch this interview bear in mind the the cliche in politics that uh they say everything that comes before the butt doesn't actually matter it's what it's what comes after the butt and that's why people are like whoa interesting so let's all all all based Elizabeth Warren here what happens when you turn this into um the billionaires run it all is they get the opportunity to squeeze every last penny yeah and look we'll say it over and over violence is never the answer this guy gets a trial who's allegedly killed the CEO of United Health but you can only push people so far and then they start to take matters into their own hands yeah I mean she's vigilante justice her whole career she's been going after CEOs more than probably any other Democratic Poli did walk it back though did you she already walked it back of course she's already walked it back you knew that you knew bad uh Etc uh yeah I mean look they're all trying to thread the needle um which I kind of find amusing especially well for them in particular it's like oh how do we do this it's like you know we don't want to endorse violence and she pushed the ne to furthest though do you think so yeah yeah where you say look I don't support murder but but but you can only push people so far push people so far that's about as far as a politician is going to take it that's fair I think that that that is certainly fair was certainly expected that that politician would then be forced to walk that back we also have a hilarious clip so good that has come out of uh Luigi mangion fellow prisoners who were able to shout at a cameraman for news Nation now as you and I were discussing why are they playing news nation in prison of all the yeah of all the networks that's out there news Nation that's but uh in prison the context here is that Jesse Waters yeah apparently the most out of touch man in the entire United States said that uh United Health CEO Brian Thompson's allies Behind Bars would give Luigi a very rough time he was going to be really in for it because obviously in inmates love nothing more than health insurance C of course of course and so his theory was actually put to the test as he's in a Pennsylvania prison here so here Pennsylvania prisoners who are shouting back and forth uh with the news Nation camera crew about the conditions and other things inside the prison let's take a lesson we just suck free Luigi this was just from a few hours ago and here they are 10:00 as promised they said earlier today tell Ashley Banfield that Luigi is watching at 10 o00 I mean obviously you know that's just a a hard roast at this point because they're not near Luigi in any way can I just ask the guys if they can hear me right now to answer yes or no very loud does Luigi have television in his single cell [Music] unreal they said no right obviously we have a little bit of a delay they're getting yeah they're getting the questions and they're and they're giving us the answers Lui does not have wow this is quite something this is the strangest interview I've ever conducted me too Ashley uh you know ing to the Department of Corrections he's got his own solitary cell it's not solitary confinement but he's by himself it's not dorm style I'm not sure exactly what those guys got going on in terms of a living situation it sounds like they're all clustered together isn't it interesting to see what accommodations that they have they got their own light switches they're obviously watching TV past any sort of 10:00 curfew you know y they're they're doing this for you they're watching news Nation at this very moment that is pretty extraordinary uh also what kind of facility is this guys can just yell out you know it's like camera well I mean this is is this a jail and so this is this is most American prisons so basically those dudes are in common room MH uh the windows are open probably um uh they in fact maybe they have the windows open in the heat on you just just to make it miserable from both directions but so it seems like all those guys are in the common room uh it's you know it's not yet time you know time to go back to the cell and go to sleep so they're they all sit around there and they and they're watching television the news yeah and they had to like as you saw there they had told they had yelled out the window to the crew tell Ashley we're going to be watching at 10 p.m. uh then sure enough they were there for their appointment at 10 10 p.m. and communicating back and forth uh you love to see it yeah it's absolutely so I think that wat's uh theory that Luigi's going to you know be Persona Nara in American prisons is uh not not panning out so far so I was speculating because so first of all this is jail maybe he thought he was going to D maybe maybe Waters thought he was going to Danberry Danberry that's in Connecticut though yeah that's the that's the Connecticut one where all the rich people oh right right there Luigi might have a problem that's right he he certainly maybe he would have more a problem in the federal system which is probably more fil filled with uh with criminals White Collar criminals and others but if convicted uh right he would be in the New York State Penitentiary system we were uh speculating as to whether he'd be sent to that danam Mora Prison from the show Escape at damura uh with other violent criminals in the New York State system all the way up uh I think in Upstate New York but uh yeah we'll see we'll see what happens to him it's going to be as we said it's going to be the trial of the century I I think we can at least guys's never going to have to buy a cigarette you think so you think so all right yeah maybe you're right maybe but are people going to remember in 20 years how how long is he G to get if he gets convicted well I mean also he's going to be so he's got back pain and to be in prison yeah that's that's rough and uh he also I mean look we still don't know what he's going to plead he could be he still could plead uh Not Guilty by reason of insanity uh espe Not Guilty by reason of M you guys just finding C it could happen I don't know I mean I don't think so just because of the way the jury I mean people have tried that before right in terms of like oh I was justified in the crime usually the jury instructions are very narrow so they're able to get around these These are revolutionary times they know how to go they the feds and the cops they know how uh to rig the system to make sure that stuff like that is not going to fly but hey look maybe you're right you know uh speaking of that in terms of uh some of the uh questions surrounding Luigi Manion the manifesto and the media's relationship we've got Ken klippenstein standing by he's going to talk to us about his decision to publish the manifesto and why other media organizations have decided not to let's get to it hey if you like that video hit the like button or leave a comment below it really helps get the show to more people and if you'd like to get the full show add free and in your inbox every morning you can sign up at breakingpoints docomo help support the future of Independent Media at breakingpoints tocom