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thank you everyone for joining us in today's webinar the topic today is a presentation on AP invoice automation and for today's agenda we're going to go through a little bit of introductions and then we'll go into what topic will be all about and we'll have some questions that Anna and a little bit of Q&A on in the end and throughout the presentation will it'll be sprinkled in with poll questions quick intro to Who I am I'm Arnold Chong I'm the Inside Sales Lead a tabasco I'm joined here with a team from due up that will be presenting on AP invoice automation and if it could help you if you're using on dynamics ax or 365 so team do up please introduce yourself good morning everybody my name is Jana Mahara and I'm the Sales Director at do up first of all I would like to thank Avanti Corps for giving us the opportunity to have this webinar and it's great to to notice that there's so many attendees and let's make this a good session for all of us okay thanks yeah my name is Amna theanine and i am the CEO of dua i address to the product vision roadmap and design my background is both in IT and finances as a control and a controller and I used to work as a dynamics finance consultant something I've been building do you are from the start and I've wanted to embed in to do up all my experiences best practices when I worked with very smart people throughout the years and some of you are online today I can see some many familiar names so thanks for joining thank you John Moe thank you Anna before I get started I want to tell you a little bit about who Bountiful is as an organization and then I will pass over to John Moe before we were known as ax mentor but we recently rebranded to Avanti Co so the name sounds familiar you know why and it's because we've actually been around for many years we rebranded to align with Microsoft's new initiative to focus on Dynamics 365 and not just solely on ax although we do support all versions of AX a particle was founded in 2006 we've been a Microsoft Partner of a sense we have members of our team who are part of the Microsoft tap program we are heavily involved with a user group community on the 365 ax ug side as well as a CRM ug side our headquarters is in San Diego with several offices so we've covered the following states California Arizona Oregon Washington Nevada Utah Minnesota Georgia Texas and Indiana and we also have international locations where are in UK and Denmark where our founders are from and were originated where ax originated so we have experts who worked with a platform since the very beginning our vertical expertise it's focused on manufacturing professional services and public sector but we do cover a wide breadth of other verticals that includes a retail or financial services we are a full-stack a X 365 partner as well as help in ISP development so we can help you with general helpdesk services roadmap being full implementation life cycles as well as managed support and post life support services if you have any questions throughout this webcast please post them on the right-hand side and I will read them off at the Q&A at the end and with that I will pass it back over there Jarmo ok thanks Arnold let's now go to the actual world of AP automation and let's start by bringing the current reality of the invoice approval process into our minds here's a picture which illustrates perhaps the the reality in many of the companies in the u.s. currently and if the AAP process starts at the branch office it might take up to five days for the invoiced for to reach the headquarters then the invoice goes through several people and time-consuming phases before it finally finally is approved and put into business application and archived so the whole invoice approval process can they can take days and days and by the time everything is done you've missed any chances of any dynamic discounts for example and too often the payment is then already late and let's face it it's a tedious process but things could be different so if we look at the situation in this picture so you may imagine a situation where you can receive invoices centrally all in one place from multiple different sources with multiple different formats and the invoices invoices are automatically matched against their respective purchase orders and posted the modern process does not involve unnecessary people which means less work on boring routines and more time to focus on the exceptions it amazes me that even today I see that two people can talk about invoice automation and mean completely different things some understand it's mostly about getting rid of paper through scanning and OCR some had work flow to the mix and some only talk about the workflow what is important is to understand that most solutions on the market only covered part of the process but you should not settle for the party of partial solution when we talk about inverse automation we mean automation across the entire process including integration with the erp system this enables matching the invoices with purchase orders and this kind of automation can be called world-class what is important is to understand that most solutions of the market only cover part of the process but you should not settle for the partial solution so when we talk about invoice automation we mean automation across the entire process including integration with the ERP if we look at the invoice management of today what can we see we're using systems that are rarely integrated and come or compatible with each other there are plenty of time consuming tasks and tedious labor-intensive manual processes due to a lot of manual input work and the number of people involved the processes are extremely prone to errors and we all know for a fact that invoice management is just outlawed outright boring you sum up with you systems and processes which lack efficiency quality and have bad user experience I'd like to draw your attention to one strange thing today's world we as a concerned consumers are used to incredible user interfaces that and ease of use in all apps and web services we use they are very critical of the user experience and they're certain standard we accept expect every piece of software to deliver but in the corporate world we settle for less a lot less we use complicated and downright ugly software that just take the joy out of our work days and the question is why we need common understanding of what is acceptable of software we use days it's not it's not just about you today and the beauty of the software but it's also efficiency and the return we get out of our investment in the into the software ok let's say look a little bit what companies that are performing well in the benchmark studies have in common what are the what are they doing right obviously they've got it got rid gotten rid of paper in that addition to that they're automated through matching what does this mean well you know all what purchase orders are and why they they're made the actual decision to buy that needs an approval when the PIO is done and approved no one should touch it anymore ideally the process is touchless there is also a lot of contracts and recurring invoices such as utility bills times time shouldn't be wasted in handling these when automating the process can be made so easy these days as we know all know your matching is the basis for making the process automated and doing this also provides good prediction about the future cost and cash flow the best performance also allowed their personnel to approve invoices with a workflow tool across the entire organization they know the efficiency of their process meaning they basically know the cost of handling an invoice on average with a paper-based process this cost is around $10 an invoice but with automation you can get down to $5 or even less and lastly the best performance look beyond ap function integrating procurement with accounts payable with the help of the ERP integration to conclude my part I'd like to leave you all with this image of an ideal world in an ideal world there are no more late payments and companies can enjoy the benefits of dynamic discounting to the fullest there are more delays there are no more delays in reviewing and approving invoices and no complaints about clunky corporate software in ideal world the motivated AP team is supporting the business to excel people cannot wait to review and approve info and the apt team can focus on exceptions rather than repetitive tedious tasks and the truth is the ideal world is in fact within our reach and with this I would like to hand over to Arnold an under or some discussion thank you all and back to you all right so I have a few questions for you Anna you emphasize that you up there is seamlessly integrated with Dynamics what do you see are the benefits of this well I have two perspectives on this so the Accounts Payable point of view and the CFO's point of view for both of those parties the seamless integration is that the data in a European system this utilized real-time this means that the process should not suffer from technical problems caused by interfaces which is pretty usual and d 365 is a cloud solution that updates all the time so we take the responsibility that we talk seamlessly with your ERP system and you shouldn't have to worry about the integration boss with every update for the 80 people the seamless integration is less manual work less errors less time used in correction correcting those errors and better efficiency and do the order due to automation this the focus is shifted from the boring manual work to you to a much more rewarding since making expert work from the CFO's perspective the seamless integration dynamics means not that familiar business logic stays the same within the AP solution - so the process is transparent and you stay in control every step of the way and finally well seamless integration means that the software what works quite out of the box which leads to both cost and time savings yeah I agree with you here seamless integration definitely leads to enhance user experience let's talk about user experience what does that mean to you so at first it doesn't mean about slick colors and it doesn't mean how how a piece of software looks pretty user experience means that the software is quick to adopt and intuitive and intuitiveness is something that I want to also show in my demo just in a few minutes and like yeah I just talked about the consumer apps are great compared to the business apps I guess the consumer apps wouldn't survive if they if they wouldn't be that great so there probably is not so great news they're also out there but with the corporate softwares we shouldn't kind of we should not take that for granted we should want more from the corporate shop the software's also and the user experience that ultimately means quick return on the investment which is something that we value in the business world thanks for your insight Hannah no problem I think you will have now a poll question while I get started with soon with my demo okay and yes and I've just launched it the first question is which of the following do you consider as a current challenges in invoice management in your organization I'll leave this question up for 30 seconds so as you guys are responding all right I'm gonna close it now and Wow looks like 77% picked extensive manual input work and we have a few everywhere else annoyed personnel lack of transparency 8% late payments 4% expensive processes 4% perfect can you just confirm when you can see my screen I'm sharing our process picture of do you 365 versus do up yeah you're showing up great and perfect good so before I go to the actual demo I'll just go one more slide more so so only this process big picture quickly so do up is an Accounts Payable software designed to integrate with a XMP 365 as a turnkey solution that means that we use all the master data and setups directly from Dynamics we do not want to have anything maintained in two places and we want Dynamics to be the master file how we integrate is that we deliver our integration package to be installed to your dynamics and it includes the services we need for do up some of the data we update daily some we get as push the information when there is changes in dynamics and most we read like when you did a good example of phases for example the account structures and purchase order products ECT information and those are really important to keep up-to-date all the time we are also connected to your Asia ad so that the user authentication is the same as in Dynamics when you're logged into Dynamics you're logged in by single sign-on to do up also so the same credentials work also there and to the mobile app also ok process which you have thoughts with invoice receiving and the first keyword I want to emphasize here is that with your doula process the AAP process is centralized from the gets ago even if your finance departments are the people the approvers even if those are decentralized your ap process shouldn't need to be so no matter what your invoice type its which company the universe belongs to which all men pay invoices are sent to you will collect the same you will collect those invoices through the same pipeline and to the same place and this is the benefit of cloud solution so you cannot restrict yourself to your time in a place like your or you are in a paper paper-based process for the non PR invoices you can have the dynamic second structure based coding and the approval workflow for the PIO invoices you are able to have the peel matching and this is automated when you have a match within the tolerances you've defined or when there is a discrepancy the invoice can be automatically routed to the original requester or the purchaser for matching and approving well invoice is happy and approved into your website we transfer them again either automatically or by your finance people to the dynamics side and then the invoices are paid paid through the standard dynamics functionalities okay now I'm moving on to the demo so I'll get rid of the slides here and I'll open open so this is a web web page that I have and I will show you today a few pointers from the key things I want to emphasize so based on the centralized and streamlined process and also the intuitive look and feel of do that for a more detailed demo that is customized for your process and invoice types please feel free to contact us through our web pages or Darwin directly by mail so we are really happy to talk with you on a more detailed level so I'll start with the Desktop dua and the AAP process face so this is the do grab invoice handling view and I talked about the centralized view already before so here it is in action all the invoices that we have might have received from multiple channels to PDF through OCR in true scanning service or invoices will lead to the same place and it doesn't matter which company belongs to you're able to handle all those invoices from the same view you can restrict the access to the invoices based on user rights based on the company rights and this means that you can have the whole company centralized in a way that you're able to handle all the invoices from through the kind of the same street streamline process even though you would have some company based differences company based workflows and other company based setups basically all the companies that you have indeed 365 are available to the same throughout application good I'll start by handling handily the first invoice so when I open the dua as I'm now doing the accounts payable process I will have all the invoices that are waiting for accounts payable to handle so it can be a joint pool for the accounts payable people or they can be invoices that are just waiting for me to Nia to be handle I always have at least one invoice in the active universe section and then I have next invoices that are waiting in line in the queue I also have the previous invoices section which is more of an informational part and I'll return to that a bit later ok so starting about the in Sooey tivity that I wanted to talk about I already see that I have some warnings here I have some errors coming up and I'll start with now with this first invoice that I have to handle I can see that this is a non PR invoice and I can check first what kind of warnings I'm getting the main account is missing from the coding line so based on the business rules that we have set up we have warning for the AP phase if they haven't input input the main account at this point so I'll start by correcting that I'll make a search I pick the main account I want to use and what happens now is that we connected to dynamic and we read the account structure from dynamics life what I got was the account structure that I should use with this account and I already got one dimension prefilled which was defaulted from the vendor I can continue by selecting the dimensions it will filter the list based on the dimensions that I'm that I can take based on the account structure but what I will do now I will deliberately do a mistake so you again can see the intuitive Ness of the system so I first pick another cost changer and then I pick something else so that you can see that I did a deliberate error and I should make a correction so like that way I'm able to pick a dimension that I can use if you are using the tax cruise and item tax groups in dynamics we also have that setup here and we are not having that as it applicant we use that again live from dynamics so if I make selections that I pick tax groups and item flex groups I will have dynamics doing the calculation of the for me this way we are always on the same we all always do the calculation the same way as dynamic does Anza and we don't have any differences there and one thing also you don't wouldn't want to keep that tax information the tax calculations in several places good okay I did know a manual coding line you can do coding lines for ledger and project and very soon you are also able to do those for fixed assets which is a dynamic functionality that you can you can do directly also other kind of code needs then then just make sure but I said about the I mention the previous invoices section are before so what we have here is is an automated function but whenever I'm handling one active invoice I also have the previous invoices handy available for the same vineyard so I'm able to actually check how was this invoice handled I handled on the previous time so delete now the coding line I already did because I want to do that in a more simple way when I deleted the line you could see that again the warning warning is what warning became active that I should have coding lines in place so I'm now clicking the previous invoices so I'm able to see walked up what the coding was and I'll click on another still okay this looks like a good one I can see what the workflow was the last time I can see the invoice picture but especially I can see the coding I can copy the coding and I can paste it to my quarantine laws here so a pretty fast way to get and again to to get the codings copy it from a previous previous xenoverse good about the interactivity of it more for example the workflows this is something that as a roadmap feature we are adding the position here Akio so to do a so that we're able to use that from dynamics but also we have the possibility to modify the workflows real time so if you give the rights or example to ap to do modifications to your workflow you can easily do that so if I see something that I want to change I'm able to click that and get that selection window open for example for this invoice I want to actually send this to two different people so I want to split the task so what this invoice also to go to Benjamin so when I click the pot that I want to change I immediately get about a selection from there and if there is something that I'm not allowed to do for example removing this approver tasks and and here you can see that we have that information and we you're easily understand why you can't do a function and you're able to find find the correct information in the correct places good I am now ready with this invoice I have the coding lines in place this was an RPO invoice I have the work workflow in place if I want to I can also look at the very descriptive history log that I have for the invoice so as I've been playing with this invoice today for a while I do have of all the changes that I have done to this invoice I have a very very good give of the information all along and now when I want to send this invoice to the workflow I'll just click on the approve button and that invoice will move to my previous invoices section and I will get at the next invoice from the active invoice section to be handled next okay so this was the invoice that I already mentioned that has some kind of error in it the error it is highlighting is the invoice number so I already know that highlighting the invoice number actually means that there might be a duplicate invoice so it is able to find invoice with the same number to the same vendor based on your dynamic setup so if in your dynamics Accounts Payable parameters you have the restriction that you can't have for example within the with fiscal year the same invoice for the same vendor then this will highlight now if I click on enter when I'm in that invoice number field what happens is it's applied to this quick filter for me so it's showing me all the invoices that there is with this same invoice number and this means that I can really quickly pull that information that okay yes this actually is a document at the invoice so by comparing those invoices I know now that I do have a duplicate inverse and if I want I can archive this invoice that I had had as a duplicate it moving on I want to next handle a purchase order invoice so I will move into into my next invoices I can see that there is a Pio invoice I want to handle and I'm able to quick select that to my active invoices section so the next thing by section is just suggestion from the from the software of those invoices that are most urgent but of course you can handle which inverse you want good okay so this is a POA invoice and the invoice type here is now as a peel and I'll just quickly show that there is by the way a lot of other header fields also that could be visible what I have hidden those just just to make it more clear so with a PEO invoice the handling section is very difference so we're not doing the lecture coatings we are actually using the peel and the product received information from dynamics to do the matching and for this invoice I already have the correct peel number that we were able to pick from that purchase order but I do have three different product receipts so three different deliveries related to that peel if I would want I can also come here and make changes to the purchase order I can pick on search from the list and if I pick another peel it will show me also the product with receipts related it and if I only know the product receipt number I can also do it vice versa so I click on the product save number and it will pick for me that peel that it's it's relating to good but for this invoice the 101 was a correct and it has three product receipts all related our validation is saying that or is a big difference with the retain was and the product receipts so our inputs total is this much about the total of the match match lines it is is much more now I could start doing the changes directly to the matching lines so if I now need to make corrections either it's a price difference or a quantity difference or just removing some lines fully I could do that if the discrepancy was because of a miscellaneous challenges I could add a miscellaneous charge here that is the same functionality that there is in dynamics but it's it's basically more easy to add from here and from here we are our automatically dividing those miscellaneous charges or allocating those miscellaneous charges to the line level so you wouldn't forget to do the allocation but also if I'm not if I don't need to do a line level changes I can also do the selection based on the product receipt so I know that this invoice all relates to this one product received so by selecting that it will filter the available available items and and then my invoice would match we have a restriction here that you cannot allocate the same quantities the same line well the same line yes but the same pieces the same quantitation two invoices in the same time so we have a functionality that if I'm trying to match the same lines to the same to two different invoices I'm able to see that information that which other invoice there is actually using this and by this we are preventing those very common problems that you wouldn't be able to handle a multiple of partial deliveries on sale on one pl at the same time so with this functionality they wouldn't collide in in the posting base good for the POS we do have the possibility to retrieve from the purchase order the requester or the order which you can automatically choose use in in the workflow so our kind of best practice for this is so that you would have either both of those or just one of those in dynamically in the workflow and if there has been for example price changes or miscellaneous charges added then it will be routed to to those persons or person after the ad phase but if there hasn't been if the only function is for example that the Athey has done or even automatically have been handled that there has been selection of the PIO maybe product receipt but nothing else then you're able to automate its aunt and have the benefits of of that three-way matching good at this point I think I want to move to the mobile demo I want to show you our mobile mobile app and can you Garamond Arnold have the third poll question meanwhile as I set up my my mobile sure this is a second poll question during which period of time yes your organization planning to migrate to D 365 I'll leave this up for about a minute [Applause] okay I'm closing the polls and we have 44 percent who plan on moving in two to three years seventeen percent in one two years seventeen percent in six months to a year 11 percent zero to six months and 11 percent you guys are going to move more than three years ago it's thank you for those answers I hope you can see now my screen again with the mobile app yes we do perfect thank you so here is the mobile app I'm showing my actual phone and the mobile app is available for the three major operating systems currently so Android Windows and iOS like I mentioned before the same authentication works here so 8080 financials I use and mobile is meant for especially for the approvers that are on the girl we have a simple front view where the invoices are organized like a stack of cards and I have the essential information on hand and I can do the approving from this front view also for example here I think yeah I trust there but she always does everything correctly and I do know that we already talked about this invoice and this film is below thousand like we talked about so I can do approving directly from this view but very often usually you would want to also dig deeper and look at all the information there is related to that in voice so when I click that card I'm able to see all the information I can see the Evo's picture I can see all the attachments there that there might be I can see the workflow I can make changes to the workflow oops now I know I had trash which I of course don't want to have just a second I'll get back always there has to be a demo effect sometimes yes sir quick relaunch and there we are I just touched hide my password good so all right we'll get back to this in word I was already handling and I was looking at the workflow so I can make changes to the workflow I can see comments I can add comments to the invoice and of course coding lines we can do those we can do those for project coding lines we can do the ledger coding lines I can change the existing coding lines and if it's a peel invoice I can also view those pio related lines that there is so if I were to approve that peel after changes changes that has been made to the matching I can do that and also in the MOBOT of me how the previous invoices function if the approvers the necessary information so that they can approve lane was as within the mobile app so when I am able to check that what was the price what was the cost ginger or what was the workflow the last time I usually then have enough information to approve a invoice without having to dig in through the old email so folders or wherever the contracts related to this mail I also in the in the mobile I'm able to add delegate for my vacation time so it's really easy and fast at it even though you have already left for your vacation so you wouldn't get any invoices during that period good that was basically what I had from the demo part I hope you enjoyed it and I hope that you want to see more in a customized demo for your for your invoice types and process good now we can move forward to the Q & A I think we saw one more poll question Oh perfect let me just launch that so are you planning to modernize your AP solution I'll leave this up for a minute all right and it's now closed 47% said maybe later 20% said yes in the next 12 months and 33 percent of you said you will in the next six months zero percent of you guys said no and said that it's already in place thank you for your answer and now we will move into the Q&A if you have any questions is posted into the box on the bottom so the first question I have is what is the basis for to up charging ah okay Arnold I think that's a question to me and the do uprising is is transactional transaction based so the the monthly payments the monthly fees are based on the number of invoices handled in do up so there's no license fees involved it's only transaction based thank you Joe I have another question how do you integrate with the setup information from ax which would be HR info current in foreign employees approval limits report - info and paren for approval routing rules on workflows also setup information related to account structure validations for coding financial dimension updates changes legal entity and other organizational info updates so that is my question and I'll start with the easy one the account structure and companies and everything related to that so we've read that information fully so when we have an invoice and we said first the legal entity to that invoice of course we try to automate automatically recognize from the osteotomy there for example which may go early go and see date that inverse goes to when we have that set up after that we only see the vendor table or that come and based on the vendor that we select we get most of them we get kind of half of the information for the invoice from the invoice or OCR data from the invoice and then we feel also the vendor information from Dynamics so you would get for example payment terms and cash discounts and method of payments and everything like that then the account structure follows fully that's companies not legal entities account structured so we have that connection package that I was talking about in dynamics which gives us the information that for this company that is invoice belongs to what accounts am I allowed to use and when I click that account or when I select that account on the invoice it retrieves for me the account structure fully that is related to that to that account like I showed that it's it's giving me only the diamonds that I'm allowed to use for the other part of the question was the H are set up so we are that is a road map function that we're doing this fall of course we have already been designing that currently we do it so that we do get already all the users all the approver information for the users from Dynamics so if you have those people set up in your dynamics we can use that if you have linked those users to an employee ID we're able to also retrieve that information that hey this person is used is is the purchaser or order request for this purchase order so we can use that before the workflows but the position here arc is something that we are doing this fall and after that we should be able to get the signing limits and the relations between the hierarchy between people also from Dynamics but that is still underway but currently we are doing it so that we set that information accruing rights we set those to do after that after that they are very usable in the where clause they see and and as a follow-up to that another question is is the account structure integration batch based or is it synchronous synchronous it's live it's live it has to be alive it's it's a it's a think it's really important that if you add diamond system now you want to see them directly directly into that great and it's it it's there I think there is a kind of big risk if it was it wouldn't be alive because you would do the coding for the invoices and then when the account structure changes then you wouldn't be sure if fan is up to date and you would only see those at a later stage so I think that that is one of the key things key things while you want to keep that as a real-time interface okay and then moving on to the next question can we use project number in project module to set up workflows for example the user wants to send the invoice to project manager to review before a controller or CFO sees it that is something that we are also doing a problem with with the position Hiroaki so it is in our roadmap and because we are already have the project coding there so when when when you want to hold the invoice to a project directly you're able to do that so by just selecting the account type on the coding learning we're able to retrieve all that information from the project already but we actually do have already that information your readings have information that who is who is the project owner who is the I think there is a couple of fields where you can set up the project ownership and we are transforming that to our workflow in a in a next phase hopefully this ball great another user asked can you explain how the invoices get into the system and how it knows what you have to pick up as well as how does it handle various invoice formats good based on what kind of your channels are there is multiple different options so we can set up a scanning as a service for you which means that we would do the OCR in for those PDF and paper invoices and we have standard standard interfaces for those scans items and we agree with you just what data we are picking from the invoices if you have already an existing scanning software so you have already made the investments we would just make kind of during the setup base we would check if we already have that formats in place what your scanning software uses for example we've done many colfax interfaces so if that's already in place we're able to just do your customer specific modifications and then you're good to go invoicing is is one of my favorite topics and we do have a lot of already made invoice formats which are the most used in the world that we are kind of already already set up for and also in those was formats you usually have that typical semantic model when we read the correct data which is then mapped to the correct fields it fills in and do up anytime you need to just have a PDF in without doing any any on CRN or anything you're able to do that so if you want a quick path and just fill the information yourself you are they're also able to do that thank you and under the user as will this be compatible with an on-premise version of D 360 we have actually we we do have an on-prem client that hasn't gone to production yet and we have already made sure that we are compatible with their own print okay and what what type of ROI can we expect to receive after automating we're due up and how long will it take sorry I didn't hear the beginning what type of ROI can we expect to receive after automating with do up and how long will that take oh I would just to get exact figures I would need to know your system currently but if we assume that it would be a normal situation that there is different kind of formats different kind of places where you when you receive invoices you would get the ROI from the streamlining and centralizing the process so you will have all the invoices in one place you would include those invoices you can have anyone with the correct user credential or user rights to see the universes to see where they're going and one thing I wasn't able to show today oh wow I didn't show today which we can we can take a look at in a private demo is the power bi reports that we have when you're able to see the full process of all the invoices in different phases with where they lie on different approvers how long they have been on those on those approvers tables and to get the full visibility for your process and I think the kind of best best functions is that you want to have those invoices digitalized will be in the future able to see the invoice pictures directly from your dynamics we do have a link in dynamics in the transaction so you're able to open that in most picture from duaa so that you wouldn't have to pull for those invoice pictures anymore wherever they might be okay and do you have any connection with American Express a handle time and Excel for corporate cards well not currently we are a bin with with a kind of time and expense they decide we're thinking that maybe they should go to the travel of dynamics but I don't see that as a problem depending on what kind of integration we're talking about there do have a lot of integrations that we have done done before okay and another user as we are moving from AX 2012 to be 365 in q1 2019 do you recommend automating now or waiting until next year and what makes more sense both are okay because we we do work with AX 2012 also so basically the transformation process from do our point of view is really easy because you can already basically set this arm with your AX 2012 and then when you move on to Dynamics you could just basically if if the base data is to say if vendors are the same who are able to just change the dynamics on them on the background but if there is a lot of changes changes in the European in the face de Dell therapy then you can just have a kind of a new coffee of to up and the people would already know how to use it so there wouldn't be any changes in the do left side of us we have offices in the US and also in Europe and a pack can do up handle this yes it can and it's it's really good for those cases like I was talking about them the centralized part so for example in Europe there is a lot of countries not - most of the invoices already asked Ian Moises so for the European countries we have because we are originally from Europe we do have the experience of setting off the invoices for those companies and then you can have in the US you can have scanning scanning scanning as a service and a different kind of most paths and as you have for example the tax setups in dynamics we follow that setup so if you have a European company that uses the eighties we have that setup already through dynamics so to up doesn't need any any special setups related to that all the company specific rules and setups we already read from dynamics ok we have one final question do you offer an ax 2009 version unfortunately we don't have a 2009 version so 2012 forwards we do half but I'm sorry for 2009 uses alright okay so we're now out of time thank you everyone for all the questions and for joining us today we hope this presentation was helpful in giving you another look into modernizing your AP processes also would like to thank the Duat team for presenting we look forward to seeing everyone on the next webinar and have a nice day