Can I Sign Georgia Banking Medical History

Can i industry sign banking georgia medical history

the fire department's you find in middle Georgia provide one of the most needed services that our communities need they have been around for a long time and have become in many ways a symbol of our history and heritage so it's no wonder they provide a link to our history the old firehouse in Hawkinsville is a great example kate ryan of the georgia Trust for Historic Preservation talks about efforts to save places like the old firehouse in Hawkinsville several years ago we listed the school here in Hawk as well as a place of Carl and we are really excited to be able to give it a war in a couple of years back this one success stories of the school was saved repurposed and is being used we've been involved with a number of different sites throughout the state with their places of Harold program as well as we have a historic real estate program called are in danger properties program where we buy and sell history real estate is facing a threat we've also been involved with just places that are need help most recently guess 2009 was the georgia theatre and athens we helped them raised a large amount of money to be able to rehab they're building so we work with all divorce resources and all i'm going to say it okay tell me about the georgia trust and what their what you are trying to do we are georgia statewide nonprofit for historic preservation we're headquartered in Atlanta we work for own the state and every year we list ten sites from across the state as places in peril these are buildings that are historically significant and the firehouse here in Hawkinsville is one of them for 2014 you had a chance to walk around and go upstairs a lot of people are scared of old dark places but I imagine you've seen a lot of these yeah yeah as long as daily basis we're crawling into cold dark spaces but it's it's always interesting you always see something new it's going to be chief Leslie Sewell introduces us to Katie one of the oldest firefighting vehicles many will ever see so the buyers initial a rotary steam engine it was built in the eighteen seventy five buy the groupon company out of Elmira New York City and opportunities it purchases this is a horse powered by engine it is one of the early ways to fight fire words so they figured out it got a big fire in honking field and they lost about six or eight buildings they wanted to buy a steam engine which was the latest thing out and so they went to the city and asked them to purchase of one of these things which was real expensive and have about five thousand dollars and so they the city wouldn't buy they went into the group of gentlemen from the city all got together and decided they would buy it and they would purchase it in pay for him say oh so they went to the bank to God a note and bought this this engine when they got it and it came in because they were making I guess that being monthly payments per year to favorites not sure but we got a copy of all the transaction that happened back the infant a party so it's a very unique way of doing things but they call themselves the plastic volunteers and they bought this thing a five thousand dollars for it and started up operating in Hawkinsville with they they were able to go down and draft water out of the out of the river and pump it too they have a fire in the city yeah they got together and decided they weren't named of thing and put her name on it and they all they voted on several different names and they finally come up with it they called him the form and then it says the chief and they took his daughter whose name was katie and that's what they named the engine had placed on me own vehicle that factor so we've got the paperwork that shows where they parted in from here macross come in and they'll my rd orphanage 1880 we've got a note where they made a banknote part we got copies of that and we also after several years decision decided that they would go ahead and buy from alaska volunteers so they took over the bank notes and then become property of the city so the city hawkins male traded ever since then it's it stays stored for years and an old warehouse somewhere in the kept up with it in it if we own all about the fall Rob of it in a group gentlemen back in the nineteen seventy six took on the project restoring him so every recruiter stored up in 1976 and that's basically the owner if you touch it thank you and for a lot of years and set out in front of the on the side of the upper half downtown on Broad Street but time and still being directly in the rain but in the elements in the Sun and all this thing that ever happen would getting it out and improvement so it's been it's been with the Falcon builders think about nineteen eighty 1880 so we met for a while the people from Elmira New York the cross company then the research on it and we that they had they made United States and even older than the one that's in the Smith honey we've had people from the they sent us a little love certificate showing it listen to cyril knuckle Pelham Bay that I think the next serial number is like a hunted need for you over something I can't remember now but it's a this is closest here with number two all metal drive we went through with a collective metal a lot of got me up and down and made in the other things so we're fortunate in the fact that this one got stored in here and it's something that helping bill can be proud of something we've had a bear love them and I hope we were able to keep it there eventually and I know in the plans right now down and this would be the centerpiece for and it's because it represents something that city can be proud of something we've had for a long time something that the citizens can forget me save it not another one like a son like it but they not it over there heaven we're keeping it in the words right now or one day to have a museum to put it in and we got a few other lil atoms and we kept the five homers in a row and we'd like to put with it and be able to put in jumbo and I'm all better be done but that certainly liked it let let him make a good picture the same and we actually took it in in two thousand they did for the horse we're supposed to have two horses when we only had one at the time and he was able to pull it around or without so it's still movable it's a great piece anybody wants to come back and buy the fire station look at it we keep it on this right here until one till they get a museum for the big fire had in Hawkinsville and I if I had that thing in front of me to take you the date but I think it was somewhere around 1885 I wish I could remember the day that reading that article in horrible dispatch in New Year's it they had a big fire downtown of it all for like six or eight buildings businesses in 15 and all the people in the community got upset you know because we didn't really have anything but a bucket brigade type fire department if one really organized it was just citizens coming together to hip fight device they didn't have any equipment they didn't have anything so all these these gentlemen in the community got together and some of the prominent citizens of one roof with little influence and they all got given sides ever go by this thing and so they looked into the possibility to buy a fire engine indeed and that's just that's one of the things I'm saying it when somebody community decide they want to do something they can make it happen the citizens decided they were going do they want in your waiting room City in the city based on what they got in had such a good fire department they decided that we're here and papered things so Katie got home buyer and finished being paid for by the city about a win-win situation any losses doing a fire I'm sure there was there were no real records of it other than being a huge fire and leaves into a great building I'm certainly not a an expert on steam engines in particular something this old I really wish I could see it pump again and I think it could be if somebody knew how to restore that part of it and do how to operate a steam engine it's called a rotary steam engine it generates steam to turn the propellers which in turn pump water they've been able to they do these things across the country I wish this one was ended in good enough shape in we were able to care to thank to one of those Saints but I'm sure it'd be the hit of the show it's very unique some of the patent marks on in the knowledge is this was that December 1871 where it was patented by the company that built it we've got a picture showing that the engine when it was in in 1888 in downtown hawkinsville not sure what year this one was made but is when the old fire station was down on First Street and it was a two story building with a look like a clock tower on top of it of course we have that certificate from America France so showing us that there that the thing was a sill number four in 1888 lafont rotary steam engine and it was a productive when they had it in Hawkinsville and they were able to to have the horses there and we understand from reading out at old newspaper articles in several things said that the horses were they just bring them around the side of the building and bring it in front of it the steam engines and the horses were back right up to it they would drop the harnesses down on the horses and they'd be hooked up in a matter of a minute of two and they could go out the door in the head room for two people to ride here and of course one could hang on the back of it but what we understand the head to keep a fine just saying 24 hours a day so behind the fire station they were just a great big pile of wood every time it didn't load they keep hot coals under the things where they would be able to before they went out to do what they be stoked it up and put a lot of fuel in it I never really understand stood one they didn't start more fires with the fact that that fire was underneath the bottom and all the codes just fall out on the ground so it looks like we start more fires than we never put out but it was a great too in this day it was one of the finest example drivel workmanship when he was first built and how they used it to fight fire because if this is what what they had at a time and it was the latest thing no dude you'll notice back here it has a tender box where you keep some wood back here and you can open the flap down and go through them shouldn't fire it into pain to keep it going and keep a fire going anything to keep them to get the pressure up on the pump but a pretty unique I wish I was a real person up in it to tell you exact time e 90 the principle but I couldn't tell you how all this work walk in the front doing this it's right here where you see when you walk in the door we we take groups and we've been bringing some groups of kids through here in the pro age and I don't know there's been several group from the schools and the different things that they have and some other people that have come through here that will take them and give them the 10-cent tour and let them look at it and the more people we did see it and take an interest in it one day you know all these people help us put this same and Henry get every still working back in two thousand eight when we had at centennial 200th anniversary of accounting we hooked some horses to get it around the courthouse that was the last time has been taken out into the covering like that we can certain the carrot somewhere and put it on static display we could move some horses too if not really like somebody to note it never something about wheels and damages to tell me that you know that it would hold it up okay but this is a heavy piece of machinery even a today's standards it's pretty heavy so before you want you know start taking it down the road and pulling it with horses you'd certainly more know because it if thing fell off that the wheels or something that might break something did it take a lot of time to repair I don't think there's anything on here that couldn't be repaired because everything is stealing meddling it probably welcome back you don't want to do that too it's going to feature of what you doing when you take these things out but again if we ever get up a little committee and start this thing again and which I'd like to see done and be able to put together some funds and have it restored back to its original looks and beauty beautiful showpiece we don't want to do something to it in a certain value little hurt that lives every more they were ever signed in so it may need some these wheels a problem even though they prefer only in 76 they were out the element for several years of well the things need to be done to it I'd like to see if some people in community get behind this thing and let's get a group together a committee and steady it that's all the way we're going to come up with some solutions is the what do we do perry fire department has their own historic fire truck and they were more than happy to show it off for our cameras story about Perry George's 1951 Peter push bumper this truck was the third truck the city of Perry ever owned as a fire truck it was the first truck that they bought brand new and we found it in September of 2006 down behind the city barn we had gone down there to look at some other trucks that were going to be surplus tout and then visiting down there and was my first trip down at City barn after coming here in 2006 we saw off in the weeds some red material and the two officers that were with me went down there looked at it and came back to me and said chief this is one of our own fire truck so we were told was long gone so we took a little closer look at it talked amongst ourselves real quick down there about rather this might be a department-wide restoration project or did maybe the guys think that everybody wouldn't buy into that and they thought everybody would so we went back and we talked to at that time mayor worrall about bringing the truck back up to the fire station and allowing the firefighters to tear it down to the frame and do a complete restoration of the truck and mayor whirl was very much in favor of doing that said he thought that would be great did we have any idea about what it was going to cost and do we have any idea about how to fund it and it just so happened that we had sold off a two-man rescue pumper at that time to a department in Minnesota we had received about ninety seven thousand dollars for that vehicle the original purpose for doing that was to put together a brush truck for fighting bro woods and grass fires and we had spent about 62,000 dollars of the 97 on that truck so we told him we've got good little bit of money in the account still if you allow us to use that money up for the restoration of engine 21 with us doing the work and bid and everything as tight as we can bid it we probably can do it with that amount of money so we proceeded with bringing it back to the station it needed a really good pressure cleaning before we did anything and then we put it inside the station it started dismantling and at the time lieutenant Crumpton and then master Sargent Jesse Reiner headed up the whole project they kind of coordinated everything for us they they did all the blood sweat and tears of finding parks around the country getting parks in bidding things out and letting the rest of us know where they needed hands and muscle to help them and everybody including myself worked on this truck I think every one of the 20 of us that worked on it had a really great time doing it and about two and a half years later we were finished with it we had it dedicate rededicated actually on the Friday night before the Georgia National Fair in 2009 and on Saturday that same weekend the first parade the truck was in was the Georgia National Fair parade for the 2009 fair and on board with us in the front and the driver's compartment was mayor worrall and his wife miss Frances and so that was really pretty his final couple of months is mayor before he left office in January 2010 and we were really glad that we could get this done and have him ride on it besides parades the truck was purposed for also using it as a public education with the children and with families we have taken it to numerous outings and around the station here where we have ridde children on the truck parents on the truck everybody gets a kick out of being able to ride on fire truck let alone an older fire truck and the nice thing is this truck will accommodate a lot more people a lot easier and we're not not restricted to the cab space that we have on the inline airing the in-service fire trucks one thing that we would like to eventually do is be able to flow water out of the pump and we have a couple of parts for this own pump and we're going to have to fabricate ourselves to make it work but once we can do that then when we have station tours the children will be able to flow a much smaller hose with a lot less pressure off of this then what we do a regular fire stand by it's a big drill but it'll be neat when they can do it with a hose it's a little more their size and a lot less pressure was to have an available in the event that we had a death in the department we had a retired member or be it a line of duty death that we'd be able to as a case on take that member to the cemetery in their casket on a fire truck like most departments will try to do if you use an in-service truck like we've got it's very high to try to lift such a thing into the back of it this trucks been designed so that they're seating in the back but the cushions come out the frame stay in place and there's an entire case on assembly that our guy's hand built out of oak wood it goes in the back and would support the casket it's got rollers and all that so it's one of those things that not a whole lot of people ever think about when you're doing something like this but we put that third part of it into the reconstruction of the truck my name is lieutenant Kirk Crumpton I'm also with the city of prairie fire department I tell you a little bit about the restoration of this truck as chief grade mentioned earlier he had found it then the city barn arm and the junkyard down there and we saw it and kind of few minds came together you know you know this would be a cool project so unfortunately floorboard had been rusted out and there was actually a tree growing up through the floorboards away we cut the tree down and a couple of us came and got our trucks and we pulled it out and now this could be a viable project so what the hell one of our local wrecker services they brought it up here for sand and basically the work began almost immediately we got the pressure washer and started pressure washing all the all the bird nest and the rats out other than it it's tough it's been sitting in the weeds for a while so and immediately we kind of had the naysayers you know yeah you'll never do anything with this well that's something you don't tell a fireman sweet friendly competition between us like we can do this it's kind of take some time but we can do this so basically the project started you know after we got everything cleaned up we brought it inside and we started basically just dismantling and we got to think any all right how are we going to dismantle this thing and remember how it goes back together so we just kind of made a pact that every time we would take off apart we take a picture before and after so at the end of this project you know because we took this thing that piece by piece we took it out to the frame no no nothing humming just a steering column and that's it so every time we took a part off we took a picture basically printed those pictures out and put them in a binder back so is it that time to put it back together we just started flipping through the pictures oh this goes here this goes here you not say and as the parts came off we would uh we would send them down and prime them doing most of that work ourselves and we got it down to basically the frame it started putting it back together and then a one day it came time to see if the engine room pushing of this think of it sitting up nobody really knows in the exact time so is it gonna start is it not going to start so we drained all the fluids out of it put new spark plugs in it did some carburetor work new air filter just the basic things just to give it a shot you know see where we go man you it was probably ten firemen up here that day than today it was time to fire it off a man when this thing fired off yeah I mean everybody cheered just looked like a touchdown to been scored you know it was a pretty cool day so at that point we kind of we kind of hit a milestone with it I think that was our-our turning point where people are like man you know this this might actually work out you know so we started getting to help you know people you know what can we do what can we do so we were coming up when time would allow and we were on do we've worked on it the most time it was done on our days off we would come up and work on and just putting parts back on it and basically we got it back to us to it was completed and we had to fabricate a lot of new running boards floorboards a lot of stuff had to be completely refabricated and again local support vendors they helped us out with that and when it got time we took it up the buyer and there was a company in byron a person precision collision they they did all the paint work force and they kept it about about six months I think man we were going to their check on it was just unbelievable huh how I was turning out you know we had to send a lot of things off to have them chromed and all that but it uh when it came back you know the everybody was saying if you have it ready by that Christmas play parade will dress up and will be will be elves and that Christmas pray for you so you know friendly challenge as it may be we one of them and we had it ready for the fair parade before the Christmas challenging and we didn't make a dress up as itself so we let them off the hook as chief day was saying earlier on this this truck initially had a a tank in the back of water tank is 500 or 7 or 50 gallons completely rusted a lien have been water sitting in it for a while and um we made a decision to take that tank out and fill the tank out there were some old hold hose reels and just made up basically a seating area or you know mass people to sit on during parades or whatever the event may have been and then the cool thing was we were able to take a lot of that scrap metal that we took all this and took in and got money for we're able to put that back into the project so it was kind of supporting itself for a while as chief grab mentioned earlier this so we in the in the event that we did need to use this for a funeral we would use it as a funeral for a funeral escort for a casket for a fallen firefighter doesn't have to be us it could be anybody we would go if anybody called us needing help we use it for parades again public education the kids love to crawl over it and also actually use it for wedding some I I use it in my wedding my wife and I drove away in this truck yeah also another one of our farm is also using his wedding as well so I always thought that's a pretty cool thing you know and we got a lot of pride in this project there's been a lot of hands and a lot of man-hours spend on this thing selves that's kind of cool to be able to do that believe it or not the truck drives really good you know one of the plus sides of putting so much time into it is we know every part of this truck if we hear a sound I know exactly what it is you know when you go and figure out what's wrong with it but um it drives really good we all the date gauges and dash equipment all that was brand-new we got really fortunate as we were looking to find parts because I mean again this is a truck that was made in 1951 so here we are 2013 it's a little hard to find parts for that so we were really fortunate we found a supplier out of Ohio and this guy specialized in 49 50 and 51 year model trucks and he was able to and he was a blessing he was able to fix us up got new speed our only speedometer said 000 across the board and sir it's got five hundred and twelve miles on now so you can see that you know we drive it quite a bit during the process of this restoration wheel several people were running our that stuff get some people in every search it well it just so happens that a group from rockdale county fire department they got them in that we were doing this it's all Wow while we were working on this project you know i mean i called the manufacturing of you have pictures this you know we're not sure how this goes well we we're sitting dead and different level lo and behold these guys from rockdale county they call them like we have a truck hide em for years what's the serial renamon so we you know we swap information there you see remembers really like 30 mins away from this drugs they had a sister trouble to this so that was really neat they came down spend one afternoon you know they thought their when coming out take a few pictures end up staying quite a while and it made several trips back since then and actually they have been able to find some equipment that goes with this that we didn't even know we know mr. it was never on there we found it in the junkyard so very you know we swapped memorabilia it's at two so that worked out pretty neat like I said they come down to several of our fire shows our public safety nights and it's pretty neat to have them sitting together you know that current 50 60 years to reunite again I show you a little bit about the back of this truck as I talked earlier there was a tank in here a tankless came to this level right here in the hose would go on top of it and the tank of water well for it to function as we wanted it to we wanted to have plenty around for the kids to run around for greys people sit just to make a truck a little more useful so with the help of the Galus a barn he's really handy with a welder neat he built up these seats and built the friends up another local guy that's really good at upholstery we made the the cushion cottage for us to fit in there so they worked out really well and this is what we call parade mode if you will now if it needed to transfer to to do a funeral these seats will actually live out of here one of the guys we have maybe nice solid oak when they call it a stock it's just a solid piece of they have rollers just like being an actual Hurst one of the benefits this drug he doesnt sit ups Ohio something we had to have to lift up a casket it slides in there a lot easier max let's live in and lock so we wouldn't lose it during the recessionary how do you feel when having this been your pet project how did you feel once it was done were you relieved you're excited or a little bit of both you know as the project got towards the end you know it like I said we were two and a half years in this and at times were like oh we're never gonna finish this things never go wrong it's not a word than new and something would always happen a distance of spurs right along I keep keep trudging along as a guy towards the end you know it was it's kind of like I'm driving in the first grade no i'm driving her crazy and that's stigma is still there today we always take turns grab a parade we love doing that that's the reason we we built this truck unfortunately as let us down yet it's captain probably 67 / 800 L so far two weddings assume the future has a hole all right i'll show you if he thinks about our instrument cluster here as i mentioned earlier we were able to find a company up in Ohio that was in to get us new dash equipment actually all the voltage works the old freshener works the fuel gauge works and it's completely cut something what was in this truck originally we've got we had cooked linkers and tell lies because we want to stay street because we are on the road quite a bit with it we as far as our restoration program not only do we have to do all the bodywork but they made a new electrical system to the surat city and all wiring up so all the old wires had to come out we have it you know the cool thing about a fire department is we attract all the kind of personalities got guys that can plumb guys that can be would work we have electrician so each one of those guys we were able to tap them and say anything electrician I need you to help me with this so it worked out pretty cool we have basically our little our lights for our parades gotta have one that's that's for the little kids they like that during the parades actually have a siren I I call the old Andy Griffith siren just an old lied uptight what they call a cue siren and again 5-speed transmission a truck drives really good I've taken it all the way up the barn for it 50 60 miles an hour right route No that's basically the instrument cluster corny no power steering power brakes you got to be ready when you drop you have a big plans for it other I mean oh you already told me as far as plans for weight to stuff to keep it wrong keep it good shape sometimes in the weekend i'll call it here and just take it out and drop just to get it out because a lot of times in one time it sees daylight it's during a parade it's on different things to set up so let us take it out drop it through town I'm and everybody just calm plays you know they look just going to keep it maintained either working at security is there any special maintenance not a whole lot of minutes this girl pretty much takes care of herself she really fuel-efficient we don't have to put a whole lot of feeling doesn't make a whole lot also with you stuff she maintained yourself the hardest part about it is lying how to drive a truck of this year model as you know where we're accustomed to modern cloud systems and all that and just get in turn button or press a button to match the gas in it goes well I'll fight the case for this you got to be pretty handy with electrodes it's pretty neat taking some of the new gal-pal going ok here she does you know this is how you gotta do it well as Lieutenant crumpton was explaining we had found several different parts vendors we had a lot of assistance from local folks as well and he talked about the engine and starting that and what a what a big date Apple is for us the engine that was in the vehicle was not the original engine the original engine that used to be in this vehicle was what they called a eight cylinder in line flat top and this is a forward industrial motor well the Ford industrial motors were primarily developed to run stationary water pumped generators things like that so they have to turn out a lot of power but they have to be easily cooled and maintained sitting in place we did have somebody in town that had a motor from one of their vehicle restorations that would have been the original type motor for this vehicle and they did offer to trade out with us but when they came and looked at what we had and understood what we were going to use the vehicle for primarily parades they suggested we stay with the Ford industrial mode even though it's not the original type motor because we would not have overheating problems with it that way so we stuck with that we basically changed the oil change the spark plugs and it fired right off so that was great the original radiator we were able to keep the Senate to a radiator shop had it gone gone through and and re coded and all that so that was really pretty cool all of the ornaments on the front of it are the original type ornaments the difference is in this the way it sits today and the way it would have been prior to the restoration is that the headlight rings and the grill part through here that are now Crone were all painted red and the bumper on the front was painted silver and we've chrome it something that we saw on the internet on a truck that was refurbished in Maryland we thought that dressed it up just a little bit so we did that these are the same type of emergency flashing lights that were on the truck when we got it to restore it and really to replace those with similar rights and on the fender is what we call the wind siren with a light the original siren on this truck was a siren with a red flashing light pulsating light on the front of it we weren't able to find the exact assembly we were able to find one of the similar sirens so we got that and then one of our firefighters who is very electrically line to emergency light like we would have on the side of one of our trucks and he modified and fabri ated this assembly for so we have a working siren telefunken mention the running boards the two boards that go down the sides of the trunk call the running boards there's a floorboard in the cab area and then there's a tail board on the back of the truck those all had suffered some serious rust damage over the years and the folks in town that do steel work they were able to help us refabricate using the same type material and using the ones we had as molds the exact replicas of what was on her original they all are black now originally but on the original truck they were painted silver like the bumper was painted and we thought well if we're going to have kids and adults getting up and down off this truck on a regular basis paint on that on those running boards retreating it repainted also we were kind of concerned about even though it's a diamond plate material it's got some texture to it penis left one of our guys came up with why don't we put that bed liner that they put in the beds of pickup trucks on those running board areas and the floor borders so that's what we did bedliner vendor and more Robins they would help us out with that so we took them all the pieces he sprang at all we brought him back a newly installed those on the truck so they're they're very good-looking they're very resilient to wear and they don't have a slip factor to it as they might have if they were some of the back area where the seats are for people to sit and ride those frames were actually fabricated by our city shop we have gentleman down there that is very very talented when it comes to welding and all you've pretty much got to do is tell Bob this is what I'm thinking I'd like to have and Bob will make it come to fruition so he did that for us and then local upholstery shop did all the work for the seeds and the back cushions that's pretty much I've been explained engages in all that switches we're all new well one thing we had to do to the truck overall was this was a 24 volt system which is the old electrical systems at being a 1951 truck it used a generator instead of an alternator and a battery 24 volt battery in the process of obviously tearing the whole truck out every piece of wire and component was off of it so we thought the smart thing to do going back is put a standard 12-volt electrical system on it likes on most vehicles today and that took a little time to do because you had to figure out all the different components to put on this truck to make that electrical system or when that's not the kind of electrical system is on but our guys again they pretty well figured it all out contacted people that can help them answer the questions they couldn't answer themselves and so it is a standard 12-volt system on there now so that's one of the major things that's not as the original but the upgrade of the electrical system was necessary then many people like donate boy yes we had we had donations in in several different ways and on the rear of the truck one of the two plaques our acknowledgment of all the vendors that helped us with different harps transporting the truck when we went to bid the paint job on the truck wells towing from here in Perry loaded the truck up and transported it to three different paint shops for lieutenant crumpton and Sergeant Reiner to get the quotes on the truck the paint job the paint job is beautiful and it was done in byron by precision collision and those fellows may not only came in with the lowest bid but they were very enthusiastic when we got there because they sayn over you're or so ahead of time that updates and it is and they wanted to be part of it basically they were looking forward to that so when we showed up at their shop to get a bid from them they gave us a very reasonable price they gave us a very reasonable turn around time of four months and after they got the truck primed and painted their guys in their shop wanted to give it finished hand finish on it which takes time to do and to do that and not interfere with the shops regular business they were going to have to spend time in the evenings do it and then their guys did that and so we ended up with this red mirror finish on our truck and it took a total of about five and a half months at the paint job but well worth it time well growing spent into that that was one of them that's one of the major thing because obviously what they did was worth a lot more than the eight thousand dollars they got paid for the job