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[Music] he [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] it is a very good afternoon it's Nile boand kind of feels strange doesn't it after eight weeks of I I know the podcast has been a bit of a mess particularly over the last two weeks you've had to put up with some recorded ones and replays and all sorts of things that's because I was busy I was out in shopping centers trying my best to be a voice in Europe for you sadly I didn't get there in the end I'm not going to use the word failed because I didn't fail did I really I mean look what I did look what I achieved I was in the top four all the way right up through the counts I even beach in vain at one stage I mean realistically we did extremely well didn't we sorry I didn't knock off my phone there we did extremely well and we kept the green party out of a seat which is probably what we did because Kieran kof went out before me so I think we achieved a lot we could have achieved a lot more I could talk about it in more detail but I don't want to waste too much of the podcast I believe I was treated extremely unfairly by the media not the print media by the way uh but by RTE I was extreme I was treated like a pariah of some description I was attacked every time I tried to speak I wasn't allowed on the debate on prime time which probably would have garnered me an extra 10,000 votes which could have got me elected possibly I don't know um and there's a lot that I learned to the pro the process you're dealing with machines political machines these are political machines with very Deep Pockets big organizations lots of volunteers and I was up against that there was only four of us really five of us actually and when you think about it that was all we had uh to put videos together go out canvasing we got some help from some really great listeners great volunteers who helped us out on the canvas as well by the way thank you very much you all know who you are um I'm not going to go through naming everybody but you all know who you were and thank you so much for all the help that you gave me don't forget by the way the posters have to be down of course by this morning when the councils come back to work uh we did try to get every single one of them down there's always going to be one or two you might forget or there's one or two that sadly get put back up again by nefarious people to try and get us find H if you do see any around please let us know just WhatsApp us and we will try and get it taken down as quickly as we possibly can if we have somebody in the area to take it down we'll always miss one or two um because there was about a thousand or so that went up so please let us know but I could talk really a lot in detail about the whole thing am I going to run for election again probably not no in the general election although a lot of people have asked me to run the general election and be their voice in Ireland um and as much as I'd like to be I don't know whether I could maybe ask me again in 5 weeks time um I don't know at this moment in time because it has been I suppose for me me personally on a personal level it was a huge anticlimax to some degree because it was stressful H the count was stressful the social media abuse was something that I wasn't prepared for by the way the abuse I got on social media by some people but not by all the majority of people supported me but some of it well most of it actually all of it was just lies absolute utter lies um and anything of course to stop you from getting elected and it was a good sign by the way all that abuse was a good sign because it was a sign that I had people worried The Establishment party and the government were really worried because I rocked their little apple cart for them didn't I I mean of course Barry Andrews and Regin would have expected to get the quota H but they didn't because I took I took 50,000 votes didn't I which means they didn't get the quota right till the end Anon rden struggled to get a seat he probably wouldn't have got a seat if it hadn't been for the transfers uh from Kon kof who essentially I put out so I was kind a victim of my own success in some sense towards the end on the 19 count um but we did really well we took a lot of votes from Shen Fain of course Shen F would have come in Lyn boand but she didn't she only to come in just slightly above me uh because we took a lot of their votes votes for people who want to change um the biggest disappointment for me in the whole thing was that I spoke to so many people in workingclass areas in particular who wanted change and wanted immigration dealt with wanted housing dealt with and many of you went back and voted for the same people again H be it fil or F fall or shin and that that surprised me when because when I listen to so many people saying they want to change and yet you didn't vote for change well some of you did but not all of you and that's that really surprised me and I described an norer the week saying my father for example was a fif fall man H and it didn't matter what fif fall would do if they blew up the country tomorrow he'd still vote for fifo um and that was probably what happened I call it Stockholm syndrome it'll take time for change I believe I think the next general election we'll see more change fil and F fall are saying that this was the most successful election campaign they've had that's it's probably the worst election campaign they've ever had when you look at the amount of Independence who are now in local councils so it was a really bad election for them and I think the general election will be even worse I don't think there be any byelections because I think the general election will come first um but anyway if you have any questions you're welcome to ask me when you come on by the way but um we I want to get on with the topic because we could spend all day talking about it and I'm sure people are going to mention it throughout the topic today but I wanted to talk about the EU and the reason I wanted to talk about it was the EU migration pact and I wanted to widen the question now we know by the way the EU establ was established you know 1993 and the idea of the EU of course originally which was established but if you think about it back in 1948 when the group of countries came together Six States actually came together at the time to try to start a kind of modern European integration but there's 27 member states right now at the moment and you know they have benefited irand there's no doubt about that there is privileges and of being a part of something bigger financially and otherwise uh for the citizens of this country but you know we have to give up up levels of sovereignty to enjoy those privileges the um migration pact of course is one of those things and we had MEPS who already voted for the um migration pact uh before I came along of course um and I wouldn't certainly voted first um but they did Ireland became of course a member state of the European Union in 1973 in 2012 of course the EU was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize that surprises me by the way in the United Kingdom is no left in 2020 there's a population of 448 million people there was a load of people said that they had a gotta moment when I was on prime time on Monday night because I said I wanted an audience of 250 million people um I wanted a platform of 250 million people rather than the platform I have currently at the moment um and they said oh Boer got it wrong he doesn't even know many people are in the EU I was referring to the amount of people who are online a platform online uh currently there are over 250 million people online within the EU anyway today we are debating the you migration pact in the doll which will go through more or less probably most likely this week and because it was voted by the bunch of MEPS we previously sent over and the bunch that we've just sent over now probably will all agree with it anyway with the exception of shin F who said they disagree with parts uh the government will next week opt Into The Pact which aims to streamline aside the Asylum process across EU member states with legally binding processing times sharing of information with International Asylum applicants IP's and efficient returns of UNS unsuccessful applicants I believe that when I see it it would require protection applicants to be processed within 3 to 6 months which is still too long if you ask me fingerprinting and photographing of adult and child applicants and the establishment of designated accommodation centers we could do all of that right now by the way we don't need an asylum pack to do that the full repeal of the international protection act 2015 will begin next week with a raft of new heads of bills expected for the Autumn accelerated processing times particularly for the specific cohort of IP's International prote protection applicants uh who will be placed in mandatory border procedure will require significant increases in staff to process process applications provide legal advice upgrade it capabilities and Social Work Child Protection Medical Care and administration in other words it's going to cost us a fortune the mandatory Board of procedure will apply to those who arrive without documents from the countries with where less than 20% of protection applicants are successful and who are flagged on the new EU wide Asylum database eurodac uh which is already available to us we just don't to use it here's the thing everything that's in the U migration pact I was saying during the debates and I was was condemned for saying it I was called anti-immigration which is not true by the way I'm not anti-immigration and never was everything is there we could do right now but the idea is is that if it's part of Europe and part of a European agreement that the Irish government will be the pressure to do it I mean the argument against it is that it would be I suppose taking away more of our sovereignty more control over our own Irish laws and do we really want to do that but here's the thing I want to remain impartial for the period of the next hour or so as much as you all know I don't agree with the EU migration pact I want to remain impartial to give other people an opportunity to tell me why they might agree with it um and I suppose the best question to ask then is as being part of the European Union which has a lot of benefits there's no doubt about that you know the EU single Market environment and the adoption of the EUR EU currency for example has been of great stability for uh Ireland um you know trading goods for example has been a great uh Improvement for Ireland we if we look back for example we had a deficit of 34 million in 1973 we now have a surplus of 6 67 billion in 2022 so there's no doubt the EU has been beneficial to Ireland in a lot of ways but is there sovereignty an outdated concept that's the question really isn't it when we talk about the um migration pact you know because people talk about keeping our sovereignty so let me remain impartial for the question and ask you honestly do you believe believe that to benefit from the EU and the benefits we get from the EU is that a sacrifice that we must make as a European country or a member of the EU that we must say well okay our sovereignty is an outdated concept we don't have sovereignty anymore that's just the way it has to be let me know what you think uh the number is 0851 12255 that's 0851 12255 is sovereignty when we talk about the IM migration pact in particular and other things as well is sovereignty an outdated concept I mean you were happy enough I suppose to give away your sovereignty when it come to say free roaming you know data roaming and and phone roaming around Europe for example that that's one of the benefits of being the EU is that we don't have to pay roaming charges anymore so kind of we were happy enough to give away a little bit of sovereignty there and let Europe control those laws we were happy enough you know to give away you know to take the money and you know improve our roads and stuff like that that's okay isn't it we can let Europe pay for that we kind of happy enough to give away stuff there to Europe in relation to that so why not this we can't can't have it everywh can we is that isn't that the argument let me know what you think the number is 0851 12255 now I want to go to Nicholas Morris and Edward first if I can H Nicholas Hi how are you and congratulations on the absolutely amazing effort you you and your team put in uh trying to become elected in that and uh I do not see it as a failure it was actually a great success considering everything that you were up against you and and all the other Independents yeah and I won't I won't harp on this for too long but I'd love you to just to take your time and and reconsider going again and I think one of the things that the key things that was missing was the the independence be they groups or actual Independence you know they didn't get together and work out a a transfer strategy for voting with the with the people who were going to elect I would agree you know I think and I I actually you're in a a really Prime position to maybe host a debate going forward because I think they need to start working now because they're going to pull a general election much sooner than we imagine and you need to be start but the problem was and the problem always was Nicholas that when you look at me and say Maliki steenson for example or Philip D or whoever it happened to be who would be nationalist considered nationalist right we all have different degrees of what we agree on and disagree on and I wouldn't agree with some of the stuff that they would say and they wouldn't sure agree with some of the stuff so you know they were probably telling people oh don't give n Bo number two because he doesn't agree with us and and that's that disconnect of the nationalists vote I suppose was a big problem for us because I probably should have got more transfers from Malaki I probably should have got more transfers from Philip D but I didn't which would have helped immensely yeah but I think that's the learning curve they all need to acknowledge like you know everybody has their nuanced differences as to what it is means to them to be Nationalist and so on but in terms of actually turning over this government and gaining a majority they need to collaborate on on voting we need to focus on the strength and the strength that we had in that election and I'm not being bigheaded but I say this was me because I had a bigger platform than all of them so that was the strength and we should have focused on that strength you know okay I don't have to agree with everything they say but certainly I would have helped them as well yeah exactly exactly so there you go but um our our our our sovereignty is sacred I mean I have no problem being part of the EU have no problem with migration as long like like for example we our government intentionally ignored our laws our migration laws um in order to facilitate this EU EU pack they wanted this to be you know the the the saving the savior of of us you know and it's not I mean I have no problem with us even working with an EU pact as long as we have a sovereign uh right to den deny or or reject any decisions made we have the final veto so to speak um with regards to our country and I don't see a problem with with with holding those two positions you know um I know other people will be more extreme and say no not do with the EU don't no P but there's nothing wrong with collaborating with the EU in these areas as long as we have a sovereign veto so you agree with parts of you agree with parts of the pact but not all of it yeah yeah yeah all all of the the ideas are gr but here's the thing Nas the ideas that are within the pact I mean we can already do there's nothing stopping us you know having a faster system or faster processing or detaining people who don't have identification and all those things and deporting people who are you know who are not qualified as Asylum Seekers there's nothing stopping us doing that right now so why do we so why do we need to be part of a pack to do that we could have opted out of it well well you could argue that we don't need to be but we are we are we did join the EU as far as I'm concerned for economic re on an economic platform so to speak but it's now turned into militaristic you know sort of almost glob di it's a dict yeah yeah and and you know we you know that's not what as far as I'm concerned I've been around long enough that's not what we signed up for it was it was a bit of a a scam to be honest with you because we were led to believe you know we'd all pay the same insurance and taxes and blah blah blah blah yeah that never happened yeah you could buy you could buy a car in Germany and drive it home yeah that never happened either yeah yeah but I I I I I do think like sovereignty our sovereignty is sacred and it should be the deter Factory in any decisions we make but when you say our sovereignty is sacred yeah but when you say our sovereignty if the EU is to survive and I don't know whether it will or not I mean I for I predicted years ago it wouldn't it have be gone in 20 years but if it's to survive well then we're part of something bigger and we're not an independent state anymore and we don't have sovereignty because the EU essentially wants to control and they do control 80% of our legislation to some degree so they want to control they even controlled our finances of course you know when we had the troa in back in so I mean so realistically you know that's the sacrifice we have to make isn't it I mean I'm only giving you the impartial argument here by the way I don't agree with this but but isn't that the sacrifice you have to make I understand the position you're taking and I I do think our sovereignty has been intentionally eroded to the point of almost non-existence at this stage you know uh but there's nothing to stop us from taking it back and putting our foot down so to speak and standing our ground on certain issues particularly that affect us constitutionally our culture you know our society and so on and uh but but our politicians don't seem they just don't seem to have the will or the ability or the interest I mean you heard meal Martin referring to you know this outdated idea of sovereignty you know which basically means you know he he has sold out the idea of Irish sovereignty uh to to uh to to one control by the EU we don't need politicians like that you know we need people who stand up for this Country and this PCT is just a further erosion of of our sovereignty okay hang on stay there because I want to bring Morris and Edward in as well Morris Hi how are you uh good thanks no um I'd like to congratulate you on and and your team on your performance I think you are completely up against the the system and R you did everything they could to undermine your campaign and I think at even towards the end before the transfers of the greens you know they they it was neck and neck and they taught us you you probably could have uh beaten the system but um I think you should consider running um especially to try and take ad seed for instance yeah like it would be a big one up on him um and I'd say you get a bigger vote you think the people in Dublin Bay North would vote for me now I don't I don't know about that if that many them he voted for the green party and on a weir and I can't see I mean he tapped the pole in Dublin Bay north in clintar so h boxes that were open in clf but but in relation to the the European Council it's a completely different uh like only one and two people voted you have to consider that like there's a much higher turnout in the general election and people in relation to the general election you know there's so many issues that people are voting on and I think you were limited to what you could really be standing up for um you know especially when it came to council actually people are still going to vote for the guy even if he's inun for in as long as he gets the H sorted doesn't vote for yeah but like in relation to immigration like if you let's say you decided to run in the general election you picked constituency in Du that you felt this you know you you top to Poland like in relation to immigration um there's a lot of things you can do that that would sort the issue that that you don't have to change anything at the EU level and one of the things you could do for instance is you could say right if you come into the country you're not entitled social welfare social housing um and some of those housing schemes like say like bite um b or whatever and you have like our immigration system would be designed that you immigration has to always contribute money and can't take money out of the system so if you want to get a passport for instance it's so easy in this country to obtain the passport even through the Asylum process people don't know it like we could easily change it to say right you have to spend 20 years in this country paying taxes not being able to take money out of the system um it we we already have reasonable laws around citizenship in this country that you must be here 6 years and never be reliant on the state within that 6year period for more than a period of time but that's those rules have been broken every single day yeah but like I'm saying if you if you put that into the Constitution so that government the left and government can't undermine us and change us without going to the people then you a lot of these people who are coming in for just handouts house medal care wouldn't be coming into the country so like if you put that if you did a poll let's say after your show I guarantee you you get over 90% of people would have proved that obviously the government wouldn't be in favor of it no of course would like but like imagine the amount of money that we're losing like these people are coming in we're losing billions every year and and you know and you know having people come in and being reliant on the state is not good for our economy but but just getting Mars getting back to the the question hand you know sovereignty yes is that a sacrifice we have to make to be part of the EU like in my opinion I think it's unconstitutional because we're giving up sovereignty but whenever we do something like that it has to go to the people in relation to referendum and I think um like I'm not unfortunately in a position to to challenge the government of the high court but I know other people are and I think people like Michael Michael mcdu and stuff should be challenging the government bring to the high court and they will win if they do it because you know this this can this is unconstitutional in my opinion because you know we're giving up sovereignty without going to the people and whenever we gave up sovereignty via Denise treat via Lisbon it had to go to the people the government couldn't just do what the um some countries in the EU just right you know Incorporated the law without going to the people it had to be voted in relation to Ireland and when when you say it has to be go to the people I I do believe by the way the immigration pact should be called we should have called by the an ordinary referendum right but in saying that that won't happen I can tell you that won't happen and because I don't think that the gun is to do that but you know we did when we signed up to the treaty in the first place and we joined the EU we did give permission to our to our government to hand over our sovereignty to Europe we did do that we we allowed Europe and we have allowed Europe and we've benefited greatly from some of that you know to take over 75 to 80% of our laws yeah but like we like there's a lot of things that we didn't benefit like for instance since we joined e now the EU we've lost over 200 billions worth of fishing since that time to now um and that that would only recently we lost another 25% of France I believe yeah yeah and and Norway and like we we wouldn't um we would have our have our national debt paid off which is 200 billion which still hasn't been paid off yet and you know how are they going to pay it no one's talking about and in relation to um uh what happened yesterday the they had something to eat or whatever up and quot park and like it's it's there I saw lot of shin F faces taking pictures and the funny thing is at the same time there the fellas tend to be attacking the Catholic church and stuff like a lot of people work class people call them Shish sh fan um and that would be correct in my opinion because I there's a video going I I didn't by the way that that thing that happened in grow park for Eid I thought that was only supposed to be during Co I thought that was the reason they did during Co but it seems to be now an annual thing and I I bet anything they're not paying any sent towards the cost well I well I don't know who's paying for it there's there's a video there's a video a few years ago that Shin F picked at a Catholic church outside valy FMA and they were like could you imagine them doing the same thing it was over gay pride plag and that that actually the people there the the people the cath people um in that area voice their concerns the PRI saying that it shouldn't be there and I don't why couldn't they just why couldn't they just celebrate it in the huge musk they have in Clans it's a massive big musk would have been plenty of room up there I don't I'm curious as to why they're doing it in Crow Park I don't know why anyway that that's it's a kind of separate issue but Boris the thing about it is you're saying that you just you don't want to give any more sovereignty to the EU you believe that we've given away enough and we should control these laws away too much we too much and like the migration tiet is going to cost us a load of money well it is of course it is it's going to cost us millions billions like look at the local elections for instance there's a lot of people nationalist that didn't get in and I reckon if they were in areas where there's iPass S I bet you anything like a lot of people I was hearing from people in those areas a lot of people were being busted out and told who to vote for 1 two 3 4 five um like and you're talking about those I pass centers having a few hundred people like that could easily change those local elections for okay well stay there Mar for second let me just bring Edward in I don't want to leave people waiting too long I do apologize sorry Edward go ahead good morning n and I I I I Echo some of the comments from the previous gentleman and in congratulating you and and what you achieved up to the the election it really was a Travy and I I have to say what a rotten bunch of of conspiratorial gobshites got in your way you may as well had a sign in your back that said I have a b ofs you know when it came to or I know I know I know by the way it wasn't just or can I just say you know there was a campaign on Twitter as well of misinformation H and and a lot of that by the way was by people who were working with certain political parties who had started all of that and it was all just absolute nonsense you know I I I looked at all of the interviews and I looked at one particular interview by by a certain or journalist who I won't mention it was outrageous some of the questioning but look at I I think what they've done in hindsight is this they've done you a m of favor because come the next general election by Genie you're going to see a see change in attitude and and if anything I will be at the Forefront as several others will in in in in yeah but we thought r with the greatest respect I thought that in the buildup to the8 weeks of the buildup to the EU election that we want to see a SE change H we didn't really okay 30% of Independents got voted in the in the uh local elections but when it came to the EU we just sent four people back that we told everybody we despised no no I accept that but the Ste change I'm referring to is I mean who could have anticipated the level of or lack of support for who could have anticipated that they literally got kicked in the proverbial yeah and and the green party as well but the green party were wiped out of Europe not just in Ireland by the way wiped out of Europe in general well they were but I I put the question to you online and and maybe I can put it again as to why you uh were so determined to get into the MEP seat why not stay at home now where you'll be you know more benefit and I'm going to I answered as honestly as I could mostly and a lot of people said oh is it about the money was a bit but the money and I'm not going to lie to you it's an attractive job absolutely and by the way I had a reasonably good job anyway pay paying reasonably well in radio either way but here's the thing I just felt that I could do more because I felt I had a bigger platform and I'm not comparing myself to Nigel farage but if you go back say 10 years ago when nidel farage was in Europe look at the platform he had in Europe and the way he started you know now he was obviously anti- Europe at the time um antiu at the time but he had a massive platform when you've got a platform of 250 million people online or 450 population 450 million people and most of those wouldn't be a party or platform because a lot of them would be kids but what I'm saying when you've got that kind of platform you can do a lot more and I said that to or and they kind of tried to embarrass me in some way by saying oh you said you're going to embarrass the Irish government and I said yeah you're not you're taking that literally I can draw attention to the problems within Ireland while I'm in Europe because You' have a much comment you said you would embarrass the the Irish government and rightly so yeah there reason to be embarrassed and anybody who highlights some of the inefficiencies that we're seeing over the last several months is is truely embarrassed and will be mortified to to stand up to answer your original question that that's why I wanted that particular job that's why I wanted to go to Europe because I thought on an on an EU scale and a European scale you know I could do a lot more by I mean a lot of the things obviously wouldn't be like some mind you people like housing wasn't the competency of the you uh of an me it was because there are directives in relation to Airbnb there are directives in relation to funding for affordable housing there are other directives right so there could have been some help but I would have embarrassed the Irish government by being on a big platform look you all know what I'm like for the last 30 years on radio I'm not shy I'm certainly not shy on radio or on Twitter for that matter and I would have been an embarrassment to the Irish government I would have been a thorn in their side and that's what I want to be that's what we need and that's exactly what we want and and and may may say that way but look it's only another few more months and then you may go back at it again this time with with with with you know the head down but to come back to our sovereignty when we just just to repeat what what I think Nicholas said there a moment ago and I uh we we we relinquished our sovereignty years ago when we gave up our own Irish currency in Island I mean make no mistake about that all all that we have now with this EU packed migration is was more of the same I mean under no circumstances should be permitted under no circumstances should we tolerate any more uh uh uh influx of of migrants through our our doors it it's a nonsense and this is effectively giving them an open checkbook cart blanch to do with us as they wish that is my opinion at this moment in time yeah well you there have been those on the left who are accusing the EU of being anti-migrant because the EU obviously wants to limit limit numbers but I I don't see that well you're anti- migrant and with Good Reason by way that was something the campaign that really annoyed me that I was referred to by RTE and by others as being anti-immigration I'm not anti-immigration I never was anti-immigration I mean immigration is diversity is a wonderful thing in this country you know what I mean we we've we've economically done really well out of it I'm anti illegal immigration is what I'm anti and that's what I've always been anti yeah but nor nor do we have the capacity let's let's be frank we do not have the capacity to take the numbers that the demanding no by the way the same comes I mean people see people are afraid to mention ukrainians by the way we also don't have the capacity for the number of ukrainians we've taken into Ireland that should have those numbers should have been kept well I think you know if anything as good has come out of of of the Harris regime is is the fact that he has now captured their payments and he's made this country less attractive to to to the you know that that I won't but but that's a bit of a farce Edward because they got letters I believe letters are being given now to people who come from um Ukraine saying you have 90 days to find your own accommodation etc etc right and if you don't find your own accommodation they're not turfing people out on the streets all they're doing is moving the problem from the Department of integration to the Department of Social protection you go to the Department of Social protection and you get a rent allowance or you get it whatever it is so they're just moving the financial problem from one Department to the other they're not actually doing anything at all this that was just to make it look good that's just Aesthetics look it could have been a bit of virtal signaling as well on his part but as as far as I can see the the numbers are down uh Nile um from what I can gather they're they're not increasing uh we're seeing a lot of uh empty uh accommodation blocks now they're going back from when they came and that's that's all good but all I'm doing is I'm feeding into the the finale narrative here which I'm very reluctant to do um but in the short term it it is having an impact and it's important that we get back uh an awful lot of our tourist industry we just been decimated but here's the thing adward me and you were talking about this now you know as well as I do by the end of this week or next week that'll be voted on that EU migration pact is going to be voted on and it will go through it's it's a forong conclusion as to where that vote's going to go we we will have no say on that and that's that is the critical thing here we have absolutely no say because we gave up that right you know when we entered Europe and uh you know the crowd in the door can do do what they like with us and the MPS that voted for us the majority of them are him sent back to Europe again what so what are the people thinking you know what I mean you you've seen what I've written about Maria wal Nina car I mean you don't need story with Nina car by the way she was Nina car told just to stay quiet for eight weeks say nothing and you'll get elected I think that's probably what happen there yeah the name just because you're a jockey you'll you'll get elected yeah you couldn't make it up you could not make it somebody tried to put me in the somebody tried to put me in the same category as Nina car I said just out of that you know I mean well look you you you you you could be guilty of of of moving in company that you know is is is as I said frowned upon you know that's where politicians go to die Aiden or re and thank Jesus God we got rid of him because is over some people say that we're glad he got voted at least we don't have to listen to him anymore he is kind of insufferable isn't he an unsufferable gobshite and I don't care if he St me for saying so but he must know an awful lot of ukrainians cuz there's no No Way Dublin or any part of AR voted for him you know but somebody didy tap the pole I think okay but but Edward ha on stay there because I need to go to nula and Billy stay there please nula hi hello how are you yeah supreme Supreme power or that's what sovereignty means well now we've lost that but we could have had up out now I I voted no twice to the Lisbon treaty uh but I mean Denmark had opt outs and it's still can draw on these up outs so it doesn't have to follow what we we did have an up out we were one of very few countries that did have an up out so we didn't have to vote for it well well yeah that's it so we're sending yes people over well that's I'm we're just doing that we've just done it again you could have sent a no person over I'm a no person no and well apart from that you know I mean it's another program really but uh so many people I know have had two votes I have got two polling cards oh I remember you telling me I remember I remember you telling me that yeah but that's that is that is something that has to be sorted out you know the whole efficiency of the voting system and the and the registration system but they are they are building a central database now they're put bring because there is five different databases or something B B I was talking to a guy in Park House in GL and I was talking to him I said did you vot and he was from wford and he said no no I my vote is down in Wexford and I said well you could have voted online uh you know you could could have updated your stuff online and I said if you wanted to you didn't have to take don't you're not obliged to take the thing that you have a vote down in wford so you could actually have two votes I know I know I know I know people who have two votes because of two different addresses but but I sry nula getting back to our sovereignty can I ask you just quickly our sovereignty because I'm I'm running out of time here rapidly do you believe that you know it's being being part of the EU means essentially we have to sacrifice our sovereignty it does of course anyone that thinks it not is a kind of a you know it is because because yeah because the EU law any any law passed in the EU we have to we cannot do anything that is adverse to EU law no you know un unless it goes against the Constitution yeah yeah so I mean if you kind of change your own laws without them being in compliance with the EU law of course you don't have sovereignty that's just pick so in other words so arguing for sovereignty arguing and saying we should be keeping our sovereignty is nonsense as far as you're concerned because we're part of the EU we have that's just the sacrifice we've made and all these car carrying kind of would say chainers they won't face that and because that's what they're all about a sovereignty AR they well they well they claim to be but I don't believe they are but they claim to be because if you were really in inent on sovereignty he'd say well no we we we we have to make our own laws and because the laws have to be it's by the people and for the people it's not for the you know and it's not the other it seems to be the other way around they're making laws and they're making more and more laws every day so the the burden falls on the people on the lower incomes the others can go wherever they want to in relation Mone in relation just finally in relation to the EU migration pact okay most likely it's going to go through in the next week or two um it will be voted for in the doll probably I mean I know it's been discussed uh today at 3:00 in leaders questions I mean do you think Ireland I mean will benefit at all from be having a a kind of central system that deals with the processing of immigration both in Europe and Ireland together as part you know of a grouping rather than doing it individually with our own laws would we benefit from that or do you think we lose out I think we'll still be doing the same old thing because you know this idea like of I was told that this I know this social house think this vacant and I was on to the council about it and and I was told well we can't fill it now at the moment because it's it's it's it's it's Scar the everything is holding it back now if we can't even do the what it call An Empty Apartment which everybody be looking for and that's New Heating and new doors and we can't get somebody in there because of gettting what the heck can we deal with anything else all right okay thank you for that new let me just go to Billy Billy Hi how are you hello n how are you Good Billy Billy I I mean I hear people going on about sovereignty and that was the main thing that people talked about over the eight weeks but I I putting my impartial hat on me if we're part of the EU which we are and we signed up to it I mean why are people giving out about sovereignty surely we realize we're part of the EU you went out and voted for your MEPS there last week so that's the sacrifice you have to make by by sere that would be an ecumenical matter now wasn't it uh um look now sovereignty I I'm sure there's many many definitions of sovereignty and anyone who's called in here today will have a definition of sovereignty and being able to act individually in a foreign policy realm is a form of sovereignty um when we joined the European economic community in 1973 and then voted on mast in 1993 we undertook the we had the undertaking that we would give up elements of our sovereignty um we've done that we we entered into this agreement with our eyes open so I I don't see why people are now complaining about it well I suppose they're complaining about it because they feel we've already lost enough of it and I suppose I talked about immigration during the 8we campaign that's something that's very visible and the reason it's visible is because you see tents on the canals and you see people put into iPass centers or or into accommodation centers so it's a very visible problem um like other things which are reasonably invisible that's not the EU that is illegal migration the two absolutely but but that's why they look at the migration pact and they say we don't want more of that so can we stop this now and they see that Europe has taking control of that the EU migration pack is an attempt to stop this happening attempt to FASTT track it isn't it well it's to Fast Track the processing of people coming into the European Union Yes it's also to put in a database to track people who come in but it also says as well they will detain people who don't have identification that's part of it as well yes which by the way we should be doing we should be doing that anyway but I I I hear I hear over the election campaign and for the last two years I've heard unvetted migrants unvetted military aged males and by the way military age for males is aged between 18 and 65 for milit quite a broad spectrum isn't it it's a broad spectrum and also you know you can have military age females as well so you know it's it's a broad Spectrum a broad demographic that's being used there but it's a it's it's just a buzz word yeah but the unvetted thing is reasonably sound description I've heard so many okay okay now so what what is the expect expectation here that every person that comes into this country will be gav vetted is that what people are no I don't think I don't think they're talking about being gav vetted I mean when we talk about vetted first it's identifying who somebody is that's that's a start isn't it but who does who does that well it would it would have to be done to um it would have to be done to fingerprinting it would have to be done to aard exactly so so that is as it stands right now n it will be the guards to do it but they're not but they're not doing it oh n would you let me finish you're Jesus you're getting into you're getting into the political for already I know I feel like I'm in that debate in drive time again yeah but you see without the EU migration pact that is under the opes of a Guardia to do that vetting to do that vetting the guards need to have valid documents do umentation and the person that has come in will have to tell them where they came from and where they have uh where they have traversed through which they may not do at least under the EU migration pact this will be done at the point of entry and people will be detained at those borders if they do not provide documentation and identification so there are elements of this EU migration pact which people in this country have been calling for for the last number of years but it's become kind of a it's become a bogey man to to be the political establishment with that we're signing up to it on everything that the government does but it's already in our statute books that if somebody enters this country with no documentation you're breaking the law so it's already on the statute books so I mean we do have a perfect right if somebody enters with no identification to arrest men and remove them from the state clearly know the Irish government and the Irish establishment have not uh enforced the laws that have been on the statute book in this state that is the issue it's not Europe that that tells them not to enforce these laws that is a decision that is made at a local level but the point I make it is the only point to make it is when you talk about the immigration pact and and all those benefits that you've just outlined which they clearly are benefits um we could be doing that anyway we could be and we should be but we're not and now the Mak difference saying well to be completely honest with you I would have a lot more faith in the abilities of eurodac and Euro Force to do the vetting at the borders of the European Union than I would for the the Irish government to do the vetting and the intake on the Irish borders because obviously our governments have allowed the situation to develop that has developed on the on the on the canals in Dublin and elsewhere by not checking where these people are coming from and uh not checking that they are who they say they are so let's let's let Europe do it if they're volunteering to do it for us okay but do me a favor Billy why don't you do to stay with me I want to go to Morris Morris High and Steve which in a second Morris Hi how are you Hi how are you doing listen we had an old sign in the Army you only lost the battle you didn't lose the war well I'm not I'm not going to use the word I failed because I don't think I failed I think I achieved something oh you did you embarrassed him into position but I tell you one thing I know when you were at the C Center and a on was announced as going through the cameras were in around you right yeah what I spotted was two fena fallers going over to them and patting them on the back and congratulating them which I've never seen before these two prices because now the rumor M machine saying that F fall and labor are in talks at the moment secretly about when the next election com they're going to get together to take power yeah well I can see I can see labor and the social Democrats joining forces anyway so I mean yeah you're going to see a lot of changes yeah but but but it but mind you maybe there were pat on the back because they just didn't want to see me getting elected well it wasn't that was because I tell you what one of the F of followers right when he saw the cameras were at to captur it he leged us yeah you see what I mean he I'm sorry your phone is making a funny noise but marris ju just getting back to it just very quickly in relation to sovereignty um you know Billy says you know we signed up to the EU we signed up to the agreement you know obviously we didn't sign up to give away all of our sovereignty but certainly we did sign up to allowing the European Union you know bring in directives and laws that govern our state and and we just have to accept it and take the good with the bad yeah and look I said I heard the lady speaking earlier on she was very true because she said she brought up the F about the Lisbon treaty and the M treaty which we rejected and they kept at us until we got us so theyum over here yeah they pumped in mil but they did change it before they put it back to the People by the way they did change it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't just a case of putting the same one back to the people again they did actually change it yeah well we we got to start of bit what we wanted but the only thing is look he pumped Millions into this island and then when they realiz how much that we got a to PO and he said hang on a minute now we have to reel these fellas in and tell them what to do and where to go and that's what's going on so you know at the end of the day we're only a small island off the main land of Europe and you sit down there and Cy and do what your to and keep your mouth shut and say nothing well we're not we're not really a we're a small island maybe physically and geographically and a population is small but financially uh you know we are important as part of Europe to a certain degree but I'll tell you one team the thing that really got to me was when this country went bankrupt in 2008 right every Bank in the Europe pumped money into this country at cheap rates and then the company the country went belly up and they said hang on a minute now you're the member of the euo you're taxpayers are going to take the bill you won't take a hit on anything and that's that's why young people had to leave this island that's why my grandchildren are grown up in England because they get the two fingers to the young people and said there's nothing here for you back off and go and live somewhere else there are two arguments in relation to whether we should or shouldn't have bailed out the banks at the time I mean I well listen I get torn between the two you take a risk and the risk was guaranted I know well Iceland for example didn't bail out their Banks but then again Iceland is a tiny population Argentine bailed out they didn't pay their death so they're getting on but they're a PO country but they kep the finger to the people that money well there are different ways of looking at it I don't know I I think to be honest with you at the time it was probably the better thing to do I mean don't get me wrong it we shouldn't have been in that position in the first place we shouldn't have been in that much de anyway anyway thanks sorry Morris it's just your phone is making a lot of and by the way Morris just very quickly thank you very much indeed for your assistance and your and volunteering to help us you've been really great yeah you're grand no worries I enjoyed it was no opener for me and you give it the best shot like I said to you the only last round one round two bring it on all right all right thanks Morris appreciate it let me go to Steve Steve by Steve how are you doing Steve I'm assum you kind of you're kind of agreeing with Billy that you know to be part of the EU we have to sacrifice are servant so so let me just start off by saying that um there's not very much that I can say outside of what Billy has said you know at least at an EU level we can ensure that these laws are adhered to um you know the the likes have been stopped at the border and if they have no uh documentation that they could be detained all that type of stuff I completely agree with that now I'm going to do something that I never usually do on your show now which is go off in a tangent which has very little to do with the topic spare me now now just bear bear with me bear with me because I'm on your side on something here now okay I am extremely pissed off with the Irish people and when I say extremely pissed off to the point where I genuin hand on my heart the house that I only bought my dream home I've put up for sale I'm getting the out of this country because I taught that we I the Irish people would have been behind somebody like you but unfortunately we they voted for more of the same into power now whatever is coming down the track now whatever is going to come down the track the Irish people deserve it those people who voted for them deserve the crap that's coming their way it's a snake eating its own tail this country is screwed absolutely screwed and I'm out of here yeah but but a large percentage didn't vote for them In fairness you know I got 50,000 votes which but wasn't embarrassing by by any stretch of the imagination so with transfers a large percentage didn't vote for them initially in first for preferences over 8