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should I go I'll go I was told half 12 car well um help e e e e e e e e e sh how you doing hey how are you yeah good's the journey lovely yeah yeah beautiful beautiful gorgeously not Happ I know I know know sor [Music] just e not e e here e oh no I was at anime the weekend and I really enjoy e e e okay s so I'd like to welcome you all to the B valleys and the gnos I'm Dr G Thomas I'm the candidate for this area and I'm here to just quickly discuss how poorly the Welsh labor assembly have been for 25 years we've had nothing but but nothing really within the Welsh valleys so and being 's actually been in hospital several times and in a& three times in the last eight days I can tell you that the waiting lists are anything from 4 hours to 30 hours I waited for this broken leg for 30 hours and my mother weighed 11 I was not being able to breathe in hospital so for the Welsh labor to say that it's actually 20 minutes and four hours out it's it's a complete joke so um I just yeah there's there's much more I'd like to talk about but I'm here to actually introduce the man himself Mr Nigel farage [Applause] good very good thank you very much indeed you're welcome good afternoon everybody well guess who is back back [Applause] again I did not for one moment think I'd be standing here and doing this ever ever again uh but I am and I'm doing it I come out of retirement and I'm doing it because I genuinely feel that Britain is broken that nothing actually works anymore that we're broken economically as our national debt explodes as our debt repayments are now over 90 billion pounds a year interestingly the same amount as the education budget but of course it's that generation that are going to have to pay for all of our mistakes for years to come I feel increasingly we're broken socially and it doesn't matter what crime statistics the government quotes at us we all feel less safe on our streets and I think we've reached a point now where most crime even goes unreported and I mean absolutely no doubt that we are in Decline culturally we've begun to forget who we are what our history is what we stand for we've put up with the minds of our children from a young age right University frankly being poisoned about what this country is and what it represents and all of this would be manageable if there were some clear political Solutions but I think our politics is perhaps as broken as all the other factors that I've listed and I was very struck over the last couple of weeks I've been involved in two seven way debates with Party leaders and Main Representatives one on the BBC One on it TV um which descended really into a shouting match between Penny Moran and Angela Raina And yet when you listen to what they were arguing over it seemed to me that the more they argued the more they seemed the same we're going through a breakdown of trust in politics where manifestos one after another can keep making keep making m same promises and No One Believes now frankly a word that they say which is why today specifically is not a Manifesto launch because if I say to you Manifesto your immediate word association is lie and that is I think holy unsurprising there are also many millions of people out there not just disappointed uh over manifestos but a lot of brexit voters millions of brexit Voters out there genuinely disappointed they believe that by voting for brexit and actually the reason we saw the turnout on the scale that we did is that we'd actually get a grip on mass migration into Britain we'd get back proper control of our borders and none of that's happened in fact the very opposite has happened so there are feelings of disenchantment there as well they of course also run through are millions of small businesses who thought well at least the regulations at least the rules will get easier uh some people say to me well that's a failure of brexit oh no it isn't it's a failure of a sovereign government to implement the will of the people and indeed its own Manifesto and I also think there's a complete lack of leadership I'm not you know going to say personally abusive things about K starmer or Richie sunak I'll leave leave that to the rest of The Establishment to be rude about me cuz I couldn't care less it doesn't matter I'm pretty used to it I've even got used to people throwing things at me but there we are but there is a lack of leadership people actually need some sense of being inspired some sense of believing there somebody up at the front that believes in what they say says what they believe and is going to show a way forward for the country and I don't believe we have any of that either so I've come back into this because I think there is now the most enormous Gap that exists between the two big Westminster parties and I say Westminster because it is very much Westminster and Oxford University thinking that dominates these parties a huge gap between that and the conversations that I hear being had by families and people around the rest of the country I could see it before the brexit referendum I could see this huge gap between our political class and the people and the brexit result the shock of that result showed us that it existed I now believe that Gap to be even bigger than it was before that referendum back in June 2016 to be chosen to launch our contract with you now look we are not pretending that we are going to win this general election we are a very very new political party and we would have much preferred this election to take place in October or November I personally was a bit crestfallen initially by what Richie sumac said when he announced July the 4th but we are running very fast to catch up and I genuinely believe that campaign now has some momentum around the country we've seen that in some of the opinion polls and particularly encouraging an increasing a rapidly increasing number of young people and I'm talking the 18 to 24 year age group are now coming to reform UK's cause so this is not something with which we're going to govern the country that's not possible in this election although this election is for our party and for to me the first important step on the road to 2029 our aim and our ambition is to establish a bridge head in Parliament and to become a real opposition to a labor government and I say that because I can't seee the red Davy providing real opposition because actually on many fundamental policies the liberal Democrats and labor frankly don't vary very much and I certainly can't see the conservatives providing opposition because they don't agree on anything they spent most of their days arguing among themselves and they're split down the middle when it comes to policy they're certainly split down the middle in terms of their attitude towards me goodness gracious had soel braan virtually proposing political marriage over the course of the weekends whilst at the same time Lord Cameron goodness me they dragged him back talk about back back again King we had Lord Cameron generally being fairly abusive and that sums up where the conservative party is so we're a party that knows what we believe in you know we get the fundamental principles of what we're about you we believe in the family we believe in community we believe in country we know exactly what we believe in and our aim is to provide clear consistent and growing leadership during the course of the next Parliament but not just in the parliament around the country too and it's my aim that we turn this into a big genuine mass movement of people and I believe that that is actually highly achievable so we've chosen to launch our contract in Wales which seems highly highly appropriate after all labor have been in power here since 1997 so perhaps there are some less lesons that we can learn from 25 years of Labor government in Wales that are perhaps what we might be looking forward to in just a few weeks time when Sak stama becomes our prime minister in Wales taxes are higher yes they are council tax is higher on average about 500 per median property than it is in England interesting isn't it that when the question is being asked of St and others on council tax in England they precious little to say so the people in Welles pay more taxes and spending per capita is higher in Wales than it is in England there's more money being spent on you on public services than there is on the other side of the bridge and it's interesting to think isn't it those debates I've been in all anybody seems to talk about is more investment more investment in the NHS more investment in our public service by which they really mean they're going to spend more of your taxes and perhaps that wouldn't matter if it led to better delivery but the figures in Wales are truly astonishing G talked about this just a moment ago you know waiting times in Wales on the NHS are exactly 50% longer than they are on the other side of the bridge education which has drifted in Wales rapidly in a leftward PC woke Direction and if you just look at the LCD tables on English mathematics any subject you like you'll see that Wales has fallen further behind England not personally that I believe England's very good and a labor government in Wales reduces your freedoms reduces your choices ends right to buy and many other schemes which damage aspiration particularly for young people who want to get on and of course the crowning Glory of 25 years of Welsh government in Wales the imposition of 20 mile hour speed limits well it led didn't it to one of the most astonishing petitions you've ever seen the percentage of Welsh people that signed that petition well I mean I've never SE a petition actually quite like it although of course we're rather used to all of that with unz and Mr up in the other end of the country in London so it gives us some idea that in terms of outright policy Labor's not very different to the conservatives it's just more incompetent it just wastes even more money than conservative governments do but here's the point about things going so badly wrong in Wales over 25 years there's been no proper clear consistent opposition I voice frankly the conservatives in the Senate have been feeble to say the very least and that is the argument Wales really gives us the perfect example of what I'm talking about we need to have good strong opposition that can mobilize people in very very large numbers so we know what we stand for we know what we're for we're for controlled borders we're for promoting genuine economic growth we for helping the little guy you know millions of men and women out there trying to get on trying to do their own thing and yet a labor and conservative party that only ever listen to the giant Global corporates we're about trying to restore some trust in politics you might dislike what we say you might not want to vote for what we say but at least we do say what we mean and we want to have an absolutely radical rethink of the way in which our public services are run and yes that does include the National Health Service it's been very very difficult to have any conversation about the NHS over the course of the 25 years that I've been involved in politics without someone pointing and screaming you want to privatize it all we want is an NHS that is free at the point of delivery that actually works that and how we get there frankly I don't think most people could give a damn about so there are the things that we're going for and of course we would like the state to take far less of our money uh than it's currently doing and will go on taking more and more I'm sure I've said from the start this should be the immigration election I have no doubt about that I think the population explosion the impact that it's had on people's lives is the dominant issue how can you discuss NHS waiting lists without discussing the fact that the population has risen by 6 million people since David Cameron came to power back in 2010 how can you talk about a shortage of housing where we need to build one new dwelling every two minutes just to cope with current levels of next migration how can you talk about any of these things so we believe this is what we should be talking about but of course the others would rather not discuss it the conservatives are attempting for a fifth Manifesto in a row to tell us they'll reduce the numbers but then they told us in 2010 and 2015 and 2017 they'd reduced net migration to tens of thousands a year they promised in 2019 with brexit controls we massively reduced the levels of unskilled labor coming into Britain well it's running at getting on the net 34 of a million a year when you look at those that are come come and stayed it's it's incredible to think that one in 30 people on the streets of Britain today have come here in the last two years alone never before in history we ever seen literally anything like it and as for labor what it's extraordinary that they launched their Manifesto with their six key priorities not even mentioning immigration not even mentioning the impact on people's lives so we want to have a proper honest debate about it and we believe that an overall freeze on net migration numbers is what we need for a few years to help us at least try to catch up we also have to say it's only right and proper that you only get benefits in this country once you've been here for five years obeyed the law and paid your taxes again these are policies these are policies that are discriminatory favor of British taxpayers and British people if you go to work in Australia you won't get benefits or dental care you'll have to pay into the system for years and obey the law we're doing what a good sensible country should do recognizing that the first duty of the British government is to its own people and not to anybody else and as far as doa's concerned well I was going out into the channel four years ago day after day filming the small dingi is coming predict ing that vast numbers would arrive unless we changed policy and started deporting people who came illegally something for the way that we used to do up until 2010 know the last years of the labor government we were deporting up to 40,000 people a year who'd come illegally we've lost our way and part of the reason for that is a court in Strasburg that's become increasingly activist they've even interfered recently uh with the Swiss government telling them they have an obligation under international law to maintain Net Zero policies well the Swiss government have decided to ignore them uh but we think the only way to really fully restore sovereignty to decide who can come in who can stay is by leaving that European Court of Human Rights it is completely out of date it's not serving the purpose for which we signed up to back over 70 years ago but of course this All Leads on to the cost of living crisis rents are up by on average 20 to 25% across the whole UK since 2021 alone is it any Wonder with an exploding population that rents are going up so a freeze on the overall numbers would at least begin to reduce the pressure and of course one of the biggest bills that families face and the lower your overall income is the bigger this particular bill matters it's energy it's energy it's whether you're filling your car or whether you're paying for your heating and we have been following at Net Zero policies championed by Mrs May enthusiastically embraced by Boris Johnson and now being virtually copied by the labor party we're pursuing Net Zero policies that are self-d disruptive just look at what it's doing to Industry what's happening to Steel making in South Wales it's going but somehow government thinks that's good because we reduce the amount of carbon dioxide that we emit but we don't we just we just export the production of that CO2 as the goods are made somewhere else in this case I'm particularly talking about primary not secondary steel and then we import the goods back into our country so we want to get rid of the subsidies that are paid to green energy companies by loading taxes on the electricity bills of everybody in this country and we've been doing this now for the best part of 20 years but we also have to try and find out a way that people can be better off national government opposition much of the media seems to want to bow down to the god of GDP our gross domestic product Rose last year isn't that great well if you massively increase the population it's perhaps not surprising with more people that the overall size of the economy would grow but here's the key coinciding with record levels of migration into Britain we have now seen six consecutive courses of GDP per head falling we're getting poorer the mass import of cheap unskilled foreign labor work for your big multinational company who want as cheaper labor as possible and couldn't give a damn about the social consequences but it's not working and we very much want to be a party that is on the side of working people and that is why I think this is perhaps the most transformative thing um in this document which by the way has been so excellently worked on for months and produced by Richard Ty he deserves the credit for this not me I'm majority come lately when it comes to this document but I think the most Innovative thing uh policy that we put out in here is to raise the level at which people start paying tax to 20,000 a year why well number one it would take 7 million people out of the tax system alog together a devilishly complicated tax system that would be a good thing of course for those on low pay be a good thing for many pensioners if they have a small private income supplementing their state income of being dragged into the tax system not a very good policy for local accountants obviously because they love the complexity not a good policy for civil servants because we could probably get rid of few of a few with a mass simplification like this but also a huge incentive a massive incentive to get people back to work and I'll talk a little bit more about that right at the end we also think inheritance tax and it depends where you live and what property values are and this is not as relevant here as it perhaps is in the home counties but you know an average semi detached House in South London is now when the parents die attracting you know inheritance tax this was never designed for people in the middle it was always designed for those at the upper income scale so we go to2 million on the state before anybody paid inheritance tax so simplification matters to us but it's wealth creation you know labor have launched their Manifesto talking about wealth creation but I didn't see a single thing in there that would create wealth and that is because our political class is stuck in the global corporate mindset I saw this in 20 years in Brussels where it was the influence of big businesses with their Lobby that dominated the way totally dominated the way the politicians thought this sort of Unholy triumverate if you like of big business big Banks and big politics and we genuinely are on the side of the 5 and a half million men and women out there running their own small companies acting as Soul traders who feel government is their enemy and it's their enemy whatever the color of the resette just look at these crazy ir35 rules how difficult they've made it for self-employed people right across the United Kingdom think about what they did to corporation tax last year putting it up by 30% and being surprised that many small and medium businesses now don't have as much Capital perhaps to reinvest or as much incentive to make profit as they had before and the other group of people who feel betrayed by the lack of brexit delivery there's the broader population who voted for lower numbers but there's the business community who genuinely thought and hoped that by getting rid by streamlining so many European Union rules that their lives would get easier they haven't they haven't the government blames Co because of Co we couldn't do these things well I would argue they didn't have to lock us down repeatedly uh once was probably more than enough but we have not and you know Rishi suak and others promised they get rid of thousands of EU laws they simply haven't done it and actually in some sectors in some sectors the regulatory authorities in Britain have made life for men and women running small businesses even harder than it was during the time of EU membership so we believe that genuine economic growth doesn't come from half a dozen John multinationals it comes from the simultaneous actions of hundreds of thousands of people millions of people deciding they're going to have a go and of course these people don't benefit uh on holiday pay they don't benefit on sickness pay these actually really economically these men and women are the heroes of the country they deserve encouragement and the more people that do it the greater the wealth that that we will create and we need wealth of course we need wealth one of the areas where we need to spend money is defense I can't think the world has been in the more perilous place at any point in my lifetime I was born after the Cuban Missile Crisis just to clarify we and and frankly this barmy idea of saying we're going back to National service oh no we're not all we're going to do is take 30,000 young people and at vast expense give them a Year's training what we ought to be doing is saying look there were 100,000 people in the Army in 2010 there were 72,000 people in in the Army now let's not let's not recruit 30,000 part- timers let's actually recruit 30,000 people fulltime to be in the services and a similar principle of course would apply across the Navy and the Air Force and in terms of in terms of expenditure look we think government should push on to two and a half and then 3% of GDP as quickly as they possibly could I think we've neglected defense very very badly now in terms of our Public Services be it policing be it prisons be at the National Health Service there's certainly a radical cultural rethink that needs to go on uh I've been fascinated going around the country in the last couple of weeks talking to people parents particularly about their real fear of knife crime growing fear of knife crime and this is not from the 18 pluses it's going right down in the teenage years and we have no doubt that an approach to policing such as stop and search and don't worry if you're called Prejudice or you're doing something wrong actually you'll save lives we're going to have to get much tougher on lowlevel crime and and I mean shoplifting I mean can you believe it you could all go out and shoplift it's time up to2 200 you can Nick and no one's going to prosecute you so I think a different approach culturally across Prime and policing and with the big one the NHS look what we are going to campaign for is a genuine radical rethink you know we all grw up loving the NHS being deeply grateful for the NHS it was there and a fantastic thing and I I've been trying to make these AR many of these arguments actually I've been trying to make for well over a decade that we have to have a rethink and I think perhaps back in 2015 when I led a different passy in a general election perhaps I was just a bit ahead of the curve perhaps I was saying things that people didn't want to listen to but I get the sense that they are listening now we are not getting bang for our buck and there's a growing level of disenchantment but the Health Service simply isn't fit for purpose in the way that it and not just the way that it used to be the way that we want it to be so let's look at other funding models let's look at how the French do it let's be radical in our thinking and and my final points on benefits now it's quite easy for those in work and working damn hard to say lazy scers on benefits it's a sort of conversation you hear in the PB but actually there are a lot of people on benefits who do not want to be on benefits they want to go back to work but the system massively disincentivizes this because if they work for more than 16 hours a week they start to lose the benefits and they'll lose more benefits than they'll earn in going out and getting money there is a trap a benefits trap and that isn't good for people economically and it certainly isn't good for people psychologically and that is where raising the level at which we start paying tax to £20,000 a year really really matters this is something that would make work pay that would make a massive difference to our societies massive difference to nearly every one of our communities and of course for those on benefits who see it as a holiday quite extraordinary isn't it you can have an online consultation and be signed off on the sick with depression and that by the way I'm not you know I'm not I'm not knocking those that genuinely have mental health issues of course I'm not but what I am saying it's ludicrous that that can happen with an online consultation and we want to make it clear that the people that that are thought to be fit and able-bodied once they've had two offers of a job if they don't take one of those jobs they lose their benefits and I think again that is something that working people would agree with that outlines the broad principles of our contract as a party we're unashamedly patriotic as a party we believe that British history is a great thing and should be taught properly and with fairness and with balance but as a party we're radical we're radical in terms of the way we want to change Public Services we're radical in terms of the way the education system in this country needs to operate we're radical in terms of our simplification of the tax system we're radical in terms of our view on ways on on issues such as the electoral system the House of Lords our right to a referendum and you can be both you can be traditional and radical at the same time because we're proud of who we are are but we feel at the moment politics and government isn't fit for purpose we want real genuine change to give us a better brighter and stronger future and I promise you all this is step one our real ambition is the 20129 general election but this is our first big push I've been back in this job for a couple of weeks I sense we're doing really rather well thank you [Applause] thank you [Applause] now now I was asked to do the easy bit today I was asked to give you the vision I'm Mr Nice today Mr Nasty is Richard Ty today who's going to tell you what taxes are going to go up and where the spend where the savings are going to come from Richard thank you thank you Nigel thank you well a very good afternoon it's great to be here really been introduced as Mr Nasty so all these bold plans and they are exciting and they are attracting huge appeal out on the stomach something's going on out there it's quite remarkable word is spreading about reform UK and as Nigel just touched on some of these key policies are really gaining ground so how do we pay for them well I talked about some of it last week last Monday but here's the thing lots of people in the media say oh it's unfunded tax cuts don't know let's get this real it's unfunded spending that's what's got us into a right pickle our fiscal deficit in the last year to April no one talks about it we spent about 120 billion more than we earned there's a few key big things here and unlike some of the other people in their plans other parties they're not honest with you about the costs and how you're going to pay for it we are because it's set out in this contract so last week I spoke about this issue of the bank of England paying your taxpayers cash on all the money that was printed and it's about5 5 billion a year based on current interest rates it's quite hard to explain but here's the point it's about 700 per year you know you're making progress when within two hours of finishing that press conference last week I was attacked by none other than the lobby group for the big Banks the vested interests who seem to think that they have a right the big Banks to make big profits on the money that was printed to save them going bus really let me repeat we are the real party on the side of the workers not the labor party what I call the cafe latte labor party that's on the side of big business so that's the first thing when they printed all this money they didn't tell us that when interest rates went back up it would cost us an absolute Fortune transferring our money to the big city Banks they didn't tell us that but that's what's happened unfunded spending the second big item of course is the cost of Net Zero so when Theresa May had a 90minut debate back in I think it was 2019 90 minutes to sign up to Net Zero put it in legislation no one said well hang on how much is this going to cost what's the spending the truth is even if they had that debate they wouldn't have had a clue you've got people like the climate change committee saying it's 1.2 billion you've got the OB saying it's 1.4 billion you've got the National Grid perhaps being a little bit more honest saying it's three trillion sorry those are trillion numbers the numbers are so big 1.2 trillion 1.4 trillion the National Grid says it's three trillion impossible to work out what that means I mean is is it 100,000 per household no one talked about this spending the cost to get there apparently it's going to save the planet and therefore the cost is irrelevant really this is real money this is real cash and it's all of our cash and apparently it's going to be good for the environment well where I'm campaigning to be elected one of the big debates is the implications the consequences which now all over the country of this drive towards offshore renewable energy but you got to transmit that electricity how are we going to transmit it oh I know big 50 meter pylons going hundreds of miles across the English Countryside how's that good for our environment and who's going to pay for it so all those who voted for this they didn't tell us that did they they didn't tell us how much it would cost and how much it would blight the English Countryside our environment how's that good for the environment we reckon that if you scrap Net Zero then the saving to the taxpayer every year for the next 25 years would be in the order of 30 billion pound per year what is that that's about £600 per adult that's what that is 600 Quid per adult to 1,00 quid for a twers household every year after tax this is real money it's your money and they didn't tell you they deliberately misled the British people about the cost implications of Net Zero and as Nigel quite rightly said all you're doing you're not reducing Global CO2 you're just shipping it somewhere else and we're the mugs that are paying for it and it's got to stop and we're the only party that has the courage to say this is unfunded spending it's costing us a fortune it's not going to save the planet and it's got to stop 30 billion a year now the third big item and again some of the press will attack us one of the mainstream uh broadcast journals newspapers this morning tried to do an analysis of some of these costs the thing was that because they didn't want to actually tell us the truth about these numbers they just talked about in generalities but we all know taxes have gone up to record levels and yet the quality of the outcomes of Public Services has declined that can only mean that we're spending money badly it taxes have gone up and the quality of Public Services had improved no end and waiting lists had dropped to zero you might say well money's being spent well so when I talk about waste in public services waste in public spending particularly in things like the NHS I always get contacted within a couple of days by nurses anist surgeons doctors say Richard thank heavens someone is actually telling it as it is the waste is everywhere it's extraordinary and I've got a very simple slogan it's what we do in business and we come from the world of business we're fixers we're sorters we're doers we make things happen it's very simple you've got to cut out the waste from the back office and inv it in the front office that's how you grow a business that's how you improve the Surplus that you make that's how you improve the quality of your product and that's what we've got to do with the public sector instead we learned that since about 2019 there's an extra 600,000 people working in the public sector but productivity has gone down so we have to be honest with people and in the same way that all of us struggling with our bills at home we're saying well I've got to save 5id in 100 but you still want to pay the bills the rent the mortgage the food you got to buy more wisely that's what we do in business Nigel talked about small businesses we're all looking at our bills and in business you say to your spending managers folks we've got to cut the cost but we've still got to provide the product you've got to save five quid in 100 and bluntly that's your job and if you don't you're fired I know it's tough but these are tough times and when the going gets tough guess what the tough gets going that's the reality and that's what's going to happen in the public sector when they introduced the equalities act in 2010 and all well-meaning well-intended things like diversity inclusion and equality it sounds lovely but they never told us about the cost of it did they they never said it's going to cost hundreds and hundreds of millions every year and productivity is going to go down as you move towards mediocrity so I simply don't accept the nonsense that's talked by those in the treasury and in the main two parties who say you can't save any money in the public sector it is utter nonsense we know it's nonsense because of those extra 600,000 people we know it's nonsense because the size of the cake that Nigel's talked about in the NHS it's up to about 11% of the size of the cake and yet wasting have gone down that is the proof that we can spend money better we can save money in the back office and invested in the front office and I know it sounds glid but the numbers are big but if you save five CR in 100 in wasteful public sector spending everywhere the crano the commissions the local authorities the government departments it soon adds up it's 50 billion quid plus or minus these are Big Numbers per adult it's about ,000 ahead this is real cash with which we can completely transform the way we run our economy and as Nigel touched on the tax cuts in order that actually we can make work pay we can make businesses grow we can encourage risk taking let's remember the biggest risk in life is never taking one that's what small business hope do those are the big savings on top of that if we get a million people off benefits back into work there's huge billions of savings oh another a bug bear of ours hs2 I mean the Prime Minister scrap the top end prime minister we going to do a job for heaven said just do it properly just scrap the rest of it billions more there foreign aid we know there's huge amounts of waste in foreign aid we could reduce the amount we spend on foreign aid sending spending saving another six billion or so every year these are huge savings this is a completely different way of running our economy I believe it's achievable we know it's achievable that's why we put this forward and we know the current status quo the main two parties tinkering at the edges there's no growth you can't tax your way out of this crisis we've got a grow away out of this crisis and this folks is how you pay for it we got to stop paying the interest on the printed money we've got a scrap Net Zero and we've got to cut out the waste in the back office of the public sector and invest it in the front line if we do these things then we can make this country grow again we can afford to invest where we need to invest in growth in tax cuts in defense and all the other things in this great contract so I commend this to you reform UK commends this to you this is how we pay for it it can be done no one's saying it's easy truth is life isn't easy but if you're not prepared to get tough with wayte school spending then we are heading towards a very bad place that's what we're about that's what reform UK is about and that's why reform UK is going up in the polls word is spreading people love Common Sense policies and a common sense approach to what we do I commend this contract to you thank you very much [Applause] so you had a nice bit you've had the challenging bit um and then uh the next plan is we're going to take some questions from the Press there are then one to ones uh we're also going to it's very important with a contract a contract is not valid of course unless you sign it so we will be signing the contract in G course but let's do some questions question so who's first question 24 pages here you talked about the costings you talked about the spendings but some of the stuff in here on immigration NHS wasting zero more police officers you accuse other parties of broken promises really a list of unrealistic promises a wish list rather than a serious plan AR you doing what you accuse others of which is chuing out the sound popular and hope you get VES that you never to deliver on it is a promise this is what we're going to Campa for over I said at the very start we are not going to be in government this time we are oppu consistency that whats very different isn't it promising you reduce m tens of thousands a year cons manifest and not even trying to achieve La you're in whys describe for us a typical reform voter and to Richard Ty on page 23 it say tax to 40% of GDP more than labor why is that is that read that wrong have a second I mean you about reform voters or members a very large number members are former members of the labor party and they on that journey in this country you know from 2010 onto now I guess perhaps a very very good example that and I think actually what we're talking about here in terms of the low scale those tra we're trying to finds Solutions we for TR make absolutely the best they can be spectum you labc I don't know right actually think what's interesting is immigration subject always considered to be a right of debate across Europe inreasing it's something on the politics are talking as I are widespread considerable support thank you just on your second point Chris yes there's a simple expression here which is that smart tax cuts that create growth pay for themselves over and over and over and if we get higher growth then guess what you get higher tax revenues and the compounding effect of that over a 5 to 10 to 15 year period is absolutely massive and there's not enough discussion in this country about the benefits of growth there's no idea from the main two parts about that so what we put in there is an estimate if you grow the economy by an extra one to one and a half% then the extra revenues tax revenues would be about 10 billion but that's the reality we've got to talk about growth and the benefits who's next every year that's about 30 times about that labor and 10 times three times trust you did say that you were going to win the next section SC of this un serious that's right it's radical it's fresh thinking it's outside the box it's not what you're going to get labor conservative parties are indistinguishable frankly from each other is this radic fresh eoms yes is it radical fresh thinking consal change yes is it very radic our education system is currently bringing up our young children yes Britain is broken Britain needs reform that's what we're here for that's what we're trying to do and Rich has also suggested very interesting radical changes to pay for it UNAM radic we want change this isn't working and nobody has gotal arguments in this election it's basically more of the same it is going to be a la government we all know that when I came back whatever it you know I said that two weeks ago labor are going to win this is about who the opposition's going to be talking about we're going to fight over the next no's no back for me no apologies for me on this what this would represent transformational change within the British economy but to be clear for those who are watching on the live stream Sam yes the sinc series of spendings costs but we're also outl all of the tables I've just touched on there so it's very important that you look at both sides of the coin say it's not working people are getting poorer unless we change course we are heading towards disaster that's the point Who's Next is I am from Politico I've got a question for mrage um one of the main criticisms of you is that it's all well and good being a kind of protest voice um because it's not that hard governance and needing the opposition like I saying you want to do is actually a much more complex thing manag re Neti compromise decisions experience running enormous complex organizations that require comprise negotiation what do you say to people who might like you and think you talk a lot of sense but don't believe that you've got the attitude or the skill for the compromise and management required to be an actual opposition opposition rather than just the protest all right well look I think um you know we all have our personalities yes of course I'm fairly decisive I have an opinion doesn't mean I don't listen doesn't mean I don't change the mind doesn't mean I don't respect others doesn't mean I can't work as part of a team and and many people I work with in politics uh I've worked with for many many years so I understand the point about compromise uh but equally but equally you know you have to have a vision you have to have a goal and I've had that I mean this this time this time 30 years ago I was campaigning in the eastly by elction in Hampshire all right and I did it not because I wanted a career far from it in fact in the end I gave up a good career because I wanted to pursue goals I wanted to pursue things that I believed in and I come out of retirement to do this for a similar reason albe it it's not as some would see it the narrower point of self-government outside the European Union or I never believe it was but some saw it that way this is about the way in which the country is run the way in which the country is managed so yes I can compromise if I need to but I also think I also think I've had some long-term views of politics of society that been right so yes I'm very confident I'm very confident in what I say and what I believe in and I think to give leadership you actually need to have that hi cine Jones from s4c you're here today in one of Well's most deprived areas are you giving people here hope at this election or is it just a list of things to hate from immigration to Devolution that question is very link to the previous question in this sense this is not a protest document this is not a protest vote and it's a been a common misconception with all the campaigns that I run over the years I remember sort of in 2011 12 13 you know every byelection we here well that was a shock result a shock result for ukip um the protest vote is growing it was always a protest vote as people suggesting this is a protest vote when you actually poll people that voted for parties I led back then or now what you Paul them and ask them is it a protest vote they say no it's not a protest vote we believe in what they're saying we think they've got positive policy solutions for the future so yes of course we're in an area that has done relatively badly compared to many others and we genuinely believe the biggest beneficiaries of the ideas we're outlining here will be people and I repeat the point trapped on benefits who don't want to be there or on low incomes or with energy bills that they're struggling to pay there's a lot more here far more here for those at the lowest end of the income scale than there is for anybody else hi thank you g news um you say you want to point 50 billion pounds of public sector waste every year that's an enormous figure where exactly do you plan to find those savings and is this code for C Public Services well cuts the public sector I mean I mean frankly they're never in the office anyway are they I mean it's work from home you poping the white hle a couple of days a week no I mean Richard made Richard has made the point at length eloquently earlier if you're running a company and things are tight you say that your managers a middle managers right I'm sorry this is the way it is you've got to cut5 and 100 in fact in tough times it might be 10 100 or20 100 and you have to find a way of doing that without affecting the product that we're selling to the public this is not unrealistic anywhere at all and the sheer bloating the bloating of the quangos the bloating of the Civil Service that has taken place even since well let alone since 2016 since 2019 is just astonishing and that's what we've had with the conservative government we've had big government we've had restriction of individual choices we've had high taxation record immigration and all we're going to get for labor is more of the same so yeah some of these things we're proposing are tough but look know the accumulated national debt is now 2.7 trillion it was just under one trillion when the Tories came to power we simply cannot go on like this we're I mean who who else would dare say that in this campaign we're skined we're in real trouble and the nonsense of economic argument we hear for Rachel re and Jeremy Hunt never acknowledges the fact that both of them are expected to be in deficit next year by yet another 100 billion so we're saying let's face reality we have to have a slim down public sector we have to do that whilst maintaining Services last question cont tax SCS Isom policy that would cause financial markets to freak out no I don't think it is comp Li truss is role yes Liz truss wanted to talk about growth but but nowhere in her proposal could we see cuts on the one hand to compensate for the giveaways on tax that was the fundamental mistake that posi made with that budget we're not making that I'm sure you can question our numbers but but actually I think in particular what Richard was brilliantly Illustrated over the interest being paid to the banks the banks not be my favorite set of organizations I tell you and this is something that is now picking up more and more economic approval former deputy governors of the bank of England and others saying Richard's on the right tra with this so so now and in terms of financial markets well of course the French bond market is very interesting this morning if you look at it look I I think an idea that says we want to regenerate the British economy an idea that says we want to bring that manufacturing to our economy an idea that says we have to accept the fact whatever our view we'll be using oil and gas until 2050 why not produce our own in this country rather than imposing it I think all of these things actually would be quite bullish for financial Market even if it was initially a bit of a political sh but look let's be realistic I repeat the point we ain't going to win this election this is our first big election but we are well on our way if you believe the MRP polls Etc at the weekend we're well on our way to establishing you know that bridge head in the House of Commons and and those MPS that we do elect will be actually have the hopes and optimism of many many many many millions of people being no doubt this campaign is going well there is momentum out there you only have to look things like social media numbers to realize how well we're doing with a budget that's a fraction of the others and that's because we Dr you know we may be compared to labor and conservative right now we may well be a relatively small party we've got a very very big message thank you very much everybody we're going to do some one on on and umate you all coming we're most first of all we're going to sign the contract we like some candidates to come beside us behind us okay the K the kill smile thanks [Music] guy with a wiggly hand gets itn't he sh e e e e e e e e e e e