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hello axilla Taylor speaking from Richmond green chambers in London today I'm looking at an important book which has come to us from seeing Mason I've reviewed this book before I did it some years ago it's called electronic signatures in law an important area law this book is now the fourth edition stephen has been able to obtain publications through the institute of advanced legal studies and humanities digital library and it's important book in its certain way because of the way in which our society is going with digitization on the scale we've never seen before now listen Sam I talked about this booking some detail and we came up with the title for our book review a well-established work of reference on electronic signatures now in a fourth edition and I say that because this particular book when it first came out i think is fascinating because if that was in the days where the adducing of evidence was really rather different from the way it is today because electronic signatures frankly didn't exist in the way they do now and everybody is using the mouse course this is the book anywhere there's the front is paperback okay let's find and then there's the back of the border you can just see the details and then at the bottom it shows the people in green it's all now I'll just go to the back of the book it runs to 400 pages index of the back is page numbering you should be able to find things quite easy it's quite a good quite a good index actually recently details and we just we just get to the front of the indexable learner and then you've got before itself and you've got you can see with the structure chapter number this paragraph numbering and you've got footnotes and the bottom chicken Bobby see there now we go to the front of the book is the actual chunk of age you can make some little central Paris stuff there he goes now there are 17 chapters interlinking a chat heads detail about the book then and information available here it's a paperback as I say do read the preference which i think is very very important will set and seemed nicely he says in the fourth edition time the time is right to separate out the different forms of electronic signature and giving each a separate chapter I love cause he's looking at it from a very sensible point of view if I may say so and that's a detail are the girls out there and after that we get to acknowledge monks and tables of cases and then after that it's not a lot of case law if you actually remember the case for is across the world is not just about one country that got an international flavor to it and it's actually the way that the cases were structured are by state or country then there's some legislation again setting out the vary from various countries and type of legislation for because we are now in a global community and we have to recognize the way we do our business includes we're going to change we start off with the main word there we go for signatures of chapter one and you've got the paragraph number as I say and then you've got a full logic then it just runs all the way through you can see there's a huge amount of detail this is a very detailed book and I think a very important one for the modern practitioner now the reason I say that is because a quick perusal of the book should convince you that signatures are not as simple as many people may think they can manifest themselves in any number of forms which means that the term signature can either loosely or precisely be defined to the point where it almost defies definition as a results as the author stated Mason judges have been required to exercise their powers to test the definition of signature and see what is acceptable in a legal context and that really is what the job of the judge is going to have to be where there is a difference of view because of course signatures past and present medieval and modern are therefore disgusting detail in the first chapter of this new fourth edition of what has become a long-established practitioner text on a lots of next subject us putting the matter of electronic signatures into a some form of perspective in publishing our forces brought by the institute of advanced legal studies and excellent organization and it deals with the different forms of electronic signatures giving each a separate chapter now that the case will has significantly increased and I'm sure it's going to as people argue about what is happening because it's a new air it's a total new era and it's a new area for us we need to know what systems we have in place about how interpreting now an ignore it authority on electronic signatures the also stable nation I've published widely on the subject he reminds us of the differences between the digital and physical worlds that some forms of electronic signatures may not be considered strictly speaking as signatures nevertheless he answered it's a convenient shorthand to refer to some forms of agreeing to enter contract as an electronics india now we've all done that if you use the internet think about it that is what happens just think about the concepts of a moral contract for one moment and you can see why we are looking looking ahead a little bit about the whole sort of jurisprudence of contract law at least we can all understand the meaning behind them their words in other words electronic signature even if the form is not quite what we expected this is a pin for example electronic signature model is it prob using the author argues that is a form of one because it provides verification or authorization and transaction so we're moving ahead from just writing it down and same accessing sure so it's numbers you see again there's a different approach but it is I think the words are provide verification had also zation once I think of the key words from here the book then sort of move progressively to a more detailed a more technical basis covering for example electronic sound typing the name into an electronic document handing it in an email address remember now how many things we do one out of a password and at the moment it's got out of hand some they are going to be a bit more sensible about it at the moment you've got you've got pimpness password for that it's very very difficult for many people to have frankly it's something of a security think about it obviously there are the ways of doing it will come on to those perhaps another day then there are the issues relating to pins and passwords just said and the chat on liability evidence digital signature the data protection and of course much more including a chapter on international initiative i thing is to be welcomed because this is an innovative work for the 21st century now some of the problems without facing today not even a few years ago but very much what were texting at the moment I think the book is certainly distinguished by the clarity reveal to complexities the possible and probable pitfalls inherent in the usage of electronic signatures explaining and analyzing relevant case law on an amazingly broad range of jurisdictions and as the internet knows no boundaries neither does the matter of electronic signatures ourselves we can see and I think that's going to be right but we would get back as a test if you like to a very basic point about what is the purpose behind it and that is that it provides verification and authorization and that really is what the purpose of the signature originally was authorized something but it also identified you as the person doing the authorizing if you think about it that's for majak of it and I don't find a difficult piece of jurisprudence with that at all with a view to the needs of a practitioner the books logically structure with numbered paragraphs detailed index and a wealth of reference by extensive footnoting and the table cases and legislation about 60 pages of the book does go through country by country and sometimes state-by-state particular cases or statutes or piece of legislation and an indicator of anything that continually changing realities in this area of law which has come about in response to rapid changes in electronic technologies I'm very grateful as Stephen got established because I think it's a very important contribution to what we're doing today and a lot of evidence among them anything else because this is thought this is not going to go away this subject matter and it's something we've got to deal with and we've got to have some fairly robust rules i think in place to know what even is not acceptable let me finally say that commercial and industrial rose i think in particular will doubtless be keen to add this to the latest and this latest addition to that longer stablish works of reference are in their professional iris because electronic signature ha i think very important as you might be am expecting the book is also available online the publication date is fighters that set them 2016 I haven't got any information about the online version of the book and I don't have any but I do have a website which is I ALS an institute of advanced legal sized on si si si don't you pay so to the academic website which should give you that information let's have a look at the book again anyway there's just let me just remind you that's the structure and it does them with pin so if you have a problem for instance with a case involving pins I think it's important to know what it said in this book the I accept and wrap messages indicating intent because it is really about evidence from intention the end of the day let's open it up in the middle here we go listen I book here in the middle one because England the world more land on Scotland jurisdictions concerning electronic signatures and the electronic seal and i have to say which is something i mentioned in the beginning and from here we've got the united states of america we have a global economy we have everything is very much linked now across the planet so therefore we've got to have something which has got an international link to it throughout because things are not going to go back to the way they were i know the brexit people think that sometimes and they've asked because the answer is you can't turn the clock back but you may want to move it forward and reform if obviously is facing you the EU is kaput you've been got to move ahead and be more practical about what you're going to put in its place but I think even with things like electronic signatures in law we are looking very much at the moment at the way that we we are going to have to do I international business in the future obviously language comes into it as well but I think the basic provisions are here and we will look forward steven to a fit edition thank you for producing it anyway bye-bye