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[Music] hello everyone very good morning and good evening and welcome to sap step up circles so here here we are here with another session and uh the people who are joining first time step up circle i will quickly uh let you know that what is the step up circle so basically in the step-up circles every week thursday we come together with some exciting topic to share knowledge with you and uh this week we have brought the topic which is koopa koopa overview all together the topics we have covered so far is uh from sap side is the first time we are bringing a topic which is not from sap site it's koopa is not a sap product but it's a big competitor of sap if you talk about into the sourcing and procurement especially in the sourcing it is giving a very tough competitions uh to ariba in the market and a lot of companies are there who have who have switched uh from ariba to pupa which i know without telling the names so that's why we thought that it would be good we have we do a lot of sourcing and procurement trainings so it will be good that we can also provide you the upcoming tools in the market so that's where we come up with the overview session of koopa today so generally uh i covered a little bit of part so our speaker today is mr ajay and he is having a very less time he is running short for uh next meeting so i will not take much of the time and i will switch it over to ajay he will cover the quick koopa overview we will be dividing into the two sessions today we'll be having a quick overview and then we'll plan one more session where we'll be go a little bit more depth of the functionalities and the features of koopa so uh so after that the people who are looking for the carrier guidance they can hold on once the koopa session is done i would be here to answer your career relevant related questions so with that we would be starting uh uh uh thank uh with ajay uh first of all thank you aj for uh coming up and giving us time before i put my gun to a chair and give it over to ajay i will give you a quick uh introduction about ajay so ajay joined us recently and he is doing uh sourcing and procurement training with us and during that discussion i came across his enriched experience and he's also having a lot of english experience in jde and koopa so ajay belongs from india from bhopal and he has shifted uh to us and he's having overall 21 years of experience with jde he has done 40 plus implementation in jd he has five years uh more than five years of experience with koopa he has worked a lot on cooper and jd integration he has done three implementations in koopa so earlier he has worked with the integration between koopa and jde now he's working with the integration between kupa and sap that's why he joined our training of sourcing and procurement so i thought that it would be great he's is one of the guy which i know with the one of the best knowledge in koopa so i thought if he can come across to our community and share the knowledge would be great so ajay over to you good morning everyone and thank you praminder for the introduction so without taking much of anybody's time uh i would like to say that you know this is one of the things which i was put into the situation where you know i was always a oracle consultant and never meant to go into this field but somehow it showed up and i became a part of it and learned it and i would love to share this experience with you um before we start anything the things that i'm going to share with you uh some of the things okay these are from the training environment they are not client specific they are not industry specific um due to certain what you call as regulatory restrictions and um non-confidential agreement i might be not able to answer some questions but i will try to answer so these things are very generic just to give you an idea about how things are and you know as a functional consultant what you can expect out of this so let me share my screen let me put a disclaimer whatever the things aj is sharing is best of his personal knowledge and personal experience thank you aj please go ahead yeah so let me know if you guys see my screen not not yet aj it is sharing now now we can see it yes okay so i'm gonna start with cooper right um cooper um what is koopa right and and before we go into that uh i just give you a little bit of overview of like in most of the companies in today's market right uh the sourcing and procurement is achieved through phone calls emails or physical mail right um orders are communicated manually through suppliers somebody's on the phone somebody is checking email somebody is checking some other system for pricing or checking their emails or checking their text messages hey what was the last price and even checking their erp systems right um but why cooper right and why is it giving such a tough competition to sap ariba right first of all it's a single and automated source of purchasing okay and we will go into the little bit of purchasing meaning what kind of purchasing you know it's it's mainly used for indirect purchasing um you can standardize the four global processes around sourcing and procurement and the the best part about this is uh it is one of the softwares where it doesn't matter whether you are on a laptop or a desktop or cloud or your mobile phone or a tablet the timely communication you know is the key here people can do anything anywhere and that's the best part of it i've worked with oracle i work with sap and i know how cumbersome these systems are especially in terms of processing in terms of complexity but koopa just broke those barriers and and you know that's why it is becoming so popular in the market right so um basically what is cooper it's a cloud-based e-procurement platform right so you can see from the picture that basically it's a cloud-based software there is no fat client there is no what you call as a client server you simply log on to internet right i'm not going to go into the part of hosting like it's a private cloud or virtual you know public cloud or hybrid cloud those are the architecture decisions but all you need to understand is that all the applications pretty much can be accessed on internet and which applications are we talking about we are talking about sourcing we are talking about contract management we are talking about supply chain design and planning and we are talking about the main is procure to pay now cooper says supply chain design and planning but really cooper was never meant to be a supply chain company they acquired one company in the last few years but really what we are going to focus today is sourcing and procurement and and especially the sourcing but i will leave for the next session um but the biggest modules here you see are uh supplier management sim uh sourcing you know where the bidding process happens for the vendors selecting the best vendors um contract management and uh p2p process right now what does cooper stand for a lot of people think that that koopa is just an acronym but really it stands for something and it stands for c stands for comprehensive right and when they say comprehensive they really mean to say that they cover um invoicing expenses procurement whole processes like sourcing contract management supplier management analytics also right so that's what comprehensive stand for open right oh um initially i thought that open stands for more like an open architecture but really uh the more i understand about the company uh the word open means here is like openness transparency and they are really they do believe in in authenticity among their customers employees and partners i mean it's it's a it's amazing that i have never found companies with with that kind of what you call as cultural values i have been in the industry for 21 years but really the company is very open in terms of their communication and in terms of their transparency user-centric you right um so once we start going into the slides more you will see that how this software is designed for user and user only and there is a saying in cooper industry is that the best ui is no ui meaning that you will see the uis and you would be amazed that how come other erp vendors cannot think about it for last 20 years or 30 years right um prescriptive why the word prescriptive well because cooper is a cloud-based platform and it has a lot of customers and a lot of suppliers and they have a visibility into the patterns of the industry when it comes to any industrial actually your voice is lost can you hear me now yeah we can hear maybe the mic went away i think yeah yeah because sourcing they have a very depth into insight into every industry that is out there so they actually once you start using koopa within a month or two depending upon which modules you implemented you can see that you know the suggestions start to appear that hey you can save you know forty thousand dollars by implementing that because your competitors are doing that or you can save this by paying this much in time things like that and a stands for accelerated because the implementation can really be done in 12 to 16 weeks now that's what cooper stands for right and how does this cloud-based e-procurement platform fit in the bigger picture i'm sorry about that just one minute so you can clearly see here that cooper has all its applications right but in the end it does depend upon financials with for sap or oracle or any erp like microsoft dynamics netsuite um workday all cloud based and you can see on the top that you can access the system through mobile devices tablets or your computers um just on the right side uh they have almost like three trillion dollars spent under management because they know how much companies are spending on indirect procurement um they have 2100 customers right now this is from the last year so they are they have the best in class platform for the business spend management and 7 million suppliers right the cooper has a very high rate of international adoption because as i said the system can be implemented within 8 to 12 weeks um let's go to the next one so what are the benefits of cooper right uh the benefits of koopa are one-stop shop it's a single place for all the users buyers and suppliers the ease of navigation is the biggest point and all the processes are automated and streamlined means there are no manual processes and and you will see what i'm talking about as we go with the slides okay so there are four types of people who are involved in procure to play process right the people and people who are doing the sap training they know that there are requesters who says we need something right requisitions who are responsible for creating requisitions um and then there are people who approve those requisitions we know that from the sap we all are going through the training right and then there are suppliers right who will receive the purchase orders and then there is accounts payable department which is involved in paying for the invoices once the goods are received so in general there are four types of people who are involved in these processes um cooper introduced a new role called buyer um that role actually comes into picture when the requesters request something and then it goes towards uh it has been approved but yet the po has not been cut and and the buyers actually are responsible for fixing some you know double checking the requisition or the pu or the errors or whatever it is that they would like to fix right but those are the people who are mainly involved in this cooper world okay so before we go any further what kind of services cooper manage in an organization right and and here i would like you to just think uh of a company that has maybe 10 000 employees or sometimes 50 000 employees and they like to buy you know services right um so if you have 50 000 employees in your company when they join they need laptop they need a charger they need a you know office supplies they need um you know things for their cubicle well you have a marketing department they need services they need time to time you know things and then you have you know koopa is also used for you have building facility management which you know provides um services within the building where there is no po involved but you know you you pay for all the janitorial services you pay for rent um you know you have legal services through your company translation services means if you are operating in different parts of the world and you have documents that need to be translated uh temporary labors which you hire so those kind of things and the disclaimer says it really is not used for managed inventory okay so if you are involved in manufacturing and if you are involved in raw material and in the production of finished good koopa is not involved in that part okay so so this is a very important distinction that everybody needs to understand only indirect procurement all right okay so what a typical p2p cycle looks like in cooper right just like sap you know you create and submit a requisition all right then somebody is going to approve a requisition why well because in most companies um there is something called self approval limit for example um you know if you have like 50 000 employees and they would like to buy something up to 100 you don't impose an approval but if somebody wants to buy a laptop for themselves or a third laptop or a fourth laptop you would say no you know i would not let people buy about 200 or 500 depending upon how you see so there are people who approve that requisition right and once that equation is approved that requisition turn into a purchase order right and that purchase order is issued to a supplier which of course once he receives or she receives the supply you know the purchase order um you know they work on it and they deliver the goods and upon the goods received you do the invoice creation and payment so typical p2p cycle of any erp oracle or sap uh nothing you know different here but what is different is this that there are four ways to buy things in cooper right and uh well people say well why fourth ways and you will see why when i share the screen further but really you can search for items in cooper which we call as catalog right because they have been catalogued by the company now there is something called shop online which is a punch out catalog meaning that you can if you don't your company does not have that item in its own catalog you can actually go and shop online and what happens is that you like something you select it uh the punch-out catalog only appears for you because your company approved it and then you just add it to your card and bring it back and and just like any other shopping experience on amazon or any site that you use it's it's no different it's called punch out catalogs a couple of times you know you need web forms why do we need web forms because you need services right for example you need to hire three people to work on the garden or office office cafeteria you want to hire them so there is a form that you need to fill up and then if your request does not fall into any of those three categories there is something called a free form you can actually just write the requisition and it will go okay so this screen is is very interesting right when the user logs in to cooper for the first time and for the sake of discussion sam what does he see well he sees just one thing only like google or amazon what do you need okay so this usually is the workbench of sam who is a user right he also sees you know what kind of you know orders he has created what were the requisitions what what that were approved and turned into a po in the recent activity right he he does see that and this thing here says action is what needs to be done to these pos right um here in the to do section sam will see what he has to do like if there are goods out there which have been received he has to create an invoice or many things like or he has like depending upon his role he has to approve things okay and then remember i talked to you about uh i think i need just one minute additional stores right so for example if you don't find anything that your company needs right or you're searching for a special kind of a charger laptop charger which your company does not have in the catalog well you can go and search you know that type of charger in office depot or dell or cdw um because these are the punch out catalogs which are approved by your company right and there's an integration i'll talk about it later but the shopping experience is very simple like what do you need just type it here okay and then we'll talk about these things also you know whatever forms order list is basically just like your your sap source list i believe where you order repeated items again and again these are the catalogs which the company maintain you know these are the commodity items which you can shop regularly these are the policies where um employees who are buying are aware of what up to what dollar amount they can buy certain things what are allowed by the company what are not allowed by the company and these are the free forms which i talked about like if you don't find something you can just you know access the form um and you can see cart here so it's like you know when you learn to amazon for the first time or you know any site that you guys shop you know it asks you what do you need well you know you just type it here right so this is what the users see when the user logs into cooper for the first time right and we are talking about depending on if you're an end user right you might not see this one recent activity because you are not responsible for approving and you're not responsible for creating a po so those are the roles and this thing will not appear for the end user okay this sam is happens to be a person who is responsible for approving things and creating videos so he sees that you know there is a decent activity going on here and i purposely put this screen but if you're an end user all you see is this one you know what do you need okay and you might see this one also which is additional stores that's it because you're shopping right you don't need to do anything else um this one here is also where your company announcements happen right if your company has something going on which they need to inform to everyone every koopa user this is a kind of a running bar where the messages appear from time to time right depending upon what you want to communicate or your company wants you to check out something which is cool you know you can come here whenever you log in right and one more thing as i said to you that if you do not find anything you just click on this button called write a request that's it other erps do not have this kind of functionality for example in in sap in oracle if we don't find an item we are stuck right there like we cannot even [Music] move from there now users don't need to worry about it right remember in the beginning i said no ui is the best ui that user only sees one thing and one thing only what you need okay let's move on to the next one so when the user search something the results appear like this you know maybe this you know the user search for some electronics and the result appears saying that hey you know here is the result document scanner or you know thinkpad keypad and all the user has to do is basically click on add to cart that's it this is the end user experience what do you need add to cart okay and this is a sidebar which shows you that how many suppliers actually you know you you can shop with you know two suppliers carry whatever you need and and you know the commodity which you're searching actually following to this commodity code you know peripherals um two or two of them are available right and then what the user does user say checkout okay when the user click on checkout this is the screen which the user sees so what does it have it has a ship to okay where the user want that goods to be delivered right who created this requisition what are the items items do come up with the picture the description their commodity code why commodity because commodity is tied to what you call as gl class codes gl class codes are tied to billing and and this cell information on the right is totally erp driven totally erp whether you are using oracle erp or sap erp uh it all comes from and of course the kupa gl chart of accounts is always mirrored like your erp chart of accounts right and that's it and you say okay done that's the shopping experience of a user in cooper now there is a lot of complexity behind the scenes when it comes to vendors right just like the vendor master data there is a lot of complexity behind the scenes in terms of items their commodities but all that complexity is hidden from the end user okay or as a matter of fact from the consultants also unless and until you happen to be a functional consultant who is setting up the system um once this billing turns green it means that even the accounts payable department does not need to be involved it is done you have the blessing of even the accounts payable department at this point of time all the way to invoicing so this is a very powerful thing right uh you can add a new line you can clear the card items but this is the shopping experience of a user which is very hard to imagine if you are using any erp like oracle or sap right because we have so much setup we have so many screens transactions code and and mandatory fields nothing like that you know what do you need i like this one add to the card check out now that's why koopa is so so amazing um we will talk about the more you know set up about in where these items are coming from what does this chart of accounts look like how the suppliers are being managed and shipped to addresses and remitted to addresses um you know and the user roles right but those are two different topics the user experience which we are talking about is is this one right these are commodity items user found them and user added to the cart and they check it out all right here is the total that is being displayed um it will not let you check out if you do not have the blessing of the financial department you know it is already built it knows which accounts to go to this is coming from erp systems okay just to let you know guys that users once they place an order they can see where do they spend the money you know what kind of requisitions are out there and you can see it's very very intuitive right this is a requisition number right there are certain actions which they can take they can edit the requisition if it has not been approved you know they can email it um they can reverse it the sign is reversed and it shows them how much total have they spent so far the items are here and different statuses draft means the user has not submitted it these two are pending approval here right this one has been received so the user really knows at this point of time that he has to go and receive it no other screens i mean this is the beauty of this part is like they can see all their requisitions here videos here receipts here and invoices here and they it is very very intuitive now now i moved on from what you call as the end user to somebody who works in the company and then who manages requisitions or who manages pos right they can see everything here and of course i'll take the questions later but let's go to the show the next one okay what are the web forms i told you guys that if you want to create a requisition right and let's say you do not for example you need a business card right now for a business card what you need you really need is i need it by what this date which is next week this is my name this is my title and this is what i want to be printed right you don't need a supplier for that and as a matter of fact the suppliers have already been finalized so this is called a web form meaning that when you type business card in what you need this form will appear for you and you just fill up the basic information what you want to be printed on the business card and you can place a requisition all right we are still on the topic of requisition not the approvals not the pos right because once that equation goes through the rest of the process in cooper is just clicking the button just clicking the button and you will see how and why because all the validation has already been done at this point okay all the validation has happened here so let me go and talk about punch out right what is the punch out we if you happen to not find what you're looking for right you can go and click on dell cdw or any other website which your company has selected and you can shop there and whatever item you like when you click it to the cart it will actually bring that item from that website back to the cart your card in cooper okay so that's a very powerful feature it's called punch out catalog it requires some kind of integration with the supplier website and we'll talk about that in the next one but you are not restricted to the company catalog items you can actually shop outside of your system uh in in big suppliers and these companies like dell cdw office depot have catalogs out there for every company that they can hook on to last but not the least is the free form right if if you do not know cannot find anything just tell me what you need whether you need [Music] amount paste just tell me what commodity do you need okay and then you know you don't need to fill up these things like to cut and check out so from the user perspective you cannot get stuck at any given point of time all right and before we go i just want to show you what suppliers see on their side when they get the pos right when supply login they see you know on their side how many customers they are connected to how many users are in the system you know how many legal entities are there they have access to all their orders they have access to um all their invoices and are they compliant with the policies of their customers or not so this is how the supplier portal looks like and i'm gonna stop here today because i'll cover the most of the topics next time in great detail but once you understand the requisition part the approvals and the po and the invoicing and good receipts are very easy but this is what koopa is and and there is complexity which is behind the scenes but uh now compared with the sap system which you guys are learning or i compared the oracle system which i learned in the last 20 years and i find it amazing to use and so easy but the real work is in the integrations so at this point of time i'll open for questions uh thank you thank you aj no ui is the best ui i really love that statement so really yeah but you can see that how easy it is right and from the end user perspective i mean considering we all are coming from erp backgrounds that why this this software is gaining so much traction and and one of the things i would like to tell people that if your company manages to have like 30 000 suppliers well for 40 000 suppliers uh koopa does the supplier onboarding for free whereas ariba charges customers to come on board so so suppliers actually do come on board for free when you implement cooper great great thank you thank you for telling this i will go and register my companies [Laughter] if anybody has questions so before we jump to the question let me check ajay uh how long do you have four questions how many more minutes do you have 10 minutes okay 10 minutes thank you for that so uh it was a great session i really loved it uh crisp and clear so people the another functionalities will be covering every thursday we do the sessions but it will not be the next thursday the koopa will identify a slot for koopa again and maybe the next month we'll do one more session where we'll go into the deep of the function of features okay so before we go to the questions which people have so i have uh uh one question so it's good that it's from the front and it's simplified and you said that the complex complexity should be there at the back end that's very right but when the it comes to the to change the system to change the screens or to change the process flow standard processor or koopa uh how flexible koopa is can it can it be changed as per the customer requirements oh yeah yeah it is very flexible so just like any erp right you have the base tables right like your supplier your commodities your items and what koopa has done is they have done a provision for like 20 or i think it's 20 or 25 in the last release called something a concept of custom fields right now now these are dynamic fields which can be added to any table in real time right so if you are you say this hey the item table is missing these attributes which are very specific to my industry well just create custom fields and you know roll it out to your users and and that changes can be done within two days or three days you know it's very flexible in terms of rolling out changes um i have seen that where the koopa is being managed only handful of people like two or three people can manage uh the whole company where where there are like 30 000 employees or 40 000 employees so it's so so flexible yeah do do it has a concept of development system quality system production system or straight away these custom fields can be changed in production no they do have a concept of same development qa and prod they do okay because really at this point of time you also need to understand whenever you do some custom fields and anything you have to check end-to-end process because you know you are relying on your integrations right you don't want to make sure that you don't break your integration with your you know you must be receiving item feed every day you must be receiving new customers every day from some erp and and you are relying on um you know accounts payable for you know invoice information and payment information that is coming from here cooper does not pay they have a system called kupa pay but i have not seen any companies using it uh all the companies rely on backend erp okay okay great great to know so when you do the development you have to go through exactly same cycle development keyword and broad okay so whenever seeing this requisition part so this is exactly what sap is also trying to do i think if you are in our excellence training please try to go to that self-service uh procurement chapter that is what exactly sap is trying to bring in s4hana and the flow is exactly the same then i'm thinking okay from where the concepts are coming that your voice was breaking up sorry is it clear now guys are you able to hear me now now we can hear you but before whatever you said we totally lost you yeah yeah so what i was saying that uh in our excellence training try to go through that chapter of self-service procurement and then also we can compare this with the s4hana so that is a new thing as uh sap is coming with s4hana self-service procurement to me it looks like a lot of things are there which you have mentioned there they have also tried to put it there to simplify the requisition process for end user that's great yeah yeah okay let's go quickly with the with the questions with people have samir has a question can we can we do some budget controls oh yes cooper does have a full functionality for budgeting so when you select something right as an end user you know you might not see it but when the it goes to the approver approver can actually see how much you know if the budget functionality is turned on how much budget do they have left or is it going against the budget so yes your purchases can be tied to the budgets great great so that state of your functionality is not there in sap so that's very good to know uh jignesh has a question comparison of ariba uh comparison with aribas so jignesh will come on that later that would be a big topic i would like to cover it but we will be covering later where we can compare ariba and kupa uh manojis has a question is koopa is capable of ai i think artificial intelligence yes uh we will go into that uh you know when i will show you guys the predictive analysis and spending analysis i mean guys remember the company has visibility to three trillion dollars that is being spent right they must be using they are using actually artificial intelligence tools to you know tell every client what their competitors are doing in the industry how they can save money how can this they they be more competitive the clients that i worked with actually as a matter of fact saved uh last client saved almost 200 million dollars within three years because now they have visibility into everything that they are buying and they have visibility into you know what kind of savings can they utilize so yes artificial intelligence is a part of cooper predictive too great great okay bala has a question are we providing pooper training as of now we are not providing we are just creating awareness we let you know if in future we come up with that arijit has another question can these changes be only achieved by enhanced request to koopa engineers or technical consultants can do that i think this is a question where you are having a discussion how flexible it is so the technical cooper does not have technical development at all it's mostly for functional consultants it's like everything is coming in um ready for functional consultants to do things like changing the table layouts changing the screen layout changing the form layout uh providing the reports all the all all the things can be done by what you call as a functional user that's why the the tool set is so powerful that i have not seen anybody in the technical capacity in any implementation because it is very simple to use and the tool set is very powerful that even a functional consultant can change the table can change the form layout can change the report layout great great great to know that jignesh has a question the koopa is for upstream uh or only for the downstream uh can you explain what upstream does i think the upstream is the part sourcing part where basically we go to the vendors we connect to the vendors and uh rfq quotations part that is the upstream part the downstream part is you know generally we said that ariba is more used for the sourcing so you can say the sourcing is the upstream part and the normal i understand part is actually for both it has a very powerful feature for sourcing uh you know perspective it has a process called bidding it has a process for full functionality for sourcing is there in cooper and a lot of companies i have seen using that functionality uh in terms of managing an event uh inviting suppliers for providing the benefits finalizing their bids finalizing the event and declaring the winner and finalizing so and as a matter of fact you can do it from the equation itself if the equation is big enough you can you know introduce the bid part so it is a full fully aware of sourcing thing it works very well with sourcing it works fully on the upstream and downstream and it also has a contact management part as well okay so itself it's a complete procurement tool run without any erp system any other erp system can can we run with standalone by using financial functions of cooper um yeah if you implement cooper pay but still you would be running into the issues like uh how to i mean you can pay somebody but you know as i said if you are familiar with any typical erp uh you have ap ar and gl right so the functionality on the pay side is very limited i mean you can pay somebody right but at the same time how will it fit into your overall uh general ledger for the company you know you have to do some kind of a extraction out of the cooper system to report your company financials right um that kind of functionality because remember purchasing is a very small part of the overall operations of the company so if you running it is standalone yes you can pay somebody okay using koopa but i have not seen people doing that it is always tied to the back end erp because your company has much bigger operations going on in terms of ap ar gl and and koopa is a very small picture into that part of ap yeah that's exactly answer my question so it's uh exactly similar as ariba ariba also we need to implement it with some core erp system to utilize the best to to make it the things end-to-end digital okay that's good so we have uh one more minute so i will take the questions which is coming up the couple of questions i will take more uh bangtage is asking ajay do you know that which database it is using what kind of database or what kind of language it is built on i don't know much about it but i can find that out all i know is that when you use punch outs it uses some kind of technology called cxml which when it ties to other people's website other clients website like dell computer cdw it's a it's a complex architecture uh but i can find that out you know i can find that out what kind of database as i said it's a cloud-based platform really you don't need to know anything you just log in and and when companies start implementing it it takes even with the changes and everything it takes almost like 12 to 16 weeks to just get done end-to-end so really the simplification part as i said you know every table comes with 20 custom fields added whatever you need for reporting whatever you add in the requisition you know let's say some kind of a tag that you want to carry all the way to invoice or to ap well get you know it can automatically add that custom field into five different tables at the same time now that kind of flexibility are we talking about that you just click a button and say i put this information in the requisition let it flow automatically to approval to po to goods receipt and to ap and and whatever tag that you have provided there will be available in all the tables in all the forms automatically now i can find that out what kind of technology are they using behind the scenes okay okay sure so i would be ending with this uh uh final question uh bala has very good question you started it that that koopa is used for indirect procurement so the question is whether it can be used for the direct procurement also and do it as a approval workflows so two questions are combined yes so i'm going to answer that it has a very powerful feature for approval workflows and we'll go through approvals next week uh the approval is actually one of the best part of cooper which is you can have custom approvals and you have something called managerial uh automatic approvals and and i'll talk more about them you know and they're very easy to implement so approvals is a very big functionality in cooper automatically happening from any device anytime anywhere you can approve things you know so the managers on the run have a great flexibility with their cell phones with their tablets and with their laptops to approve things and i'll go over that can it be used for direct procurement well the problem with comes when you involve raw material and finished goods and manufacturing right because so let me give you a simple example um once the raw material is involved you know you you have some kind of item ledger right in cooper in sap we have material ledger in oracle we have item ledger um what if you do not receive um you know full quantity you know or your financials have been updated what i'm trying to say is direct procurement i have not seen clients doing it because the direct procurement involves so much complexity from other processes right and there is much more going on in the direct procurement as opposed to indirect see these are the items which you use you know uh for your employees for your company uh you know they are not involved in any end-to-end process they are not involved in manufacturing they are not involved in the formation of sub-assemblies so it's very easy to do some kind of reversal but the moment you involve raw materials and you have to reverse something it's a very difficult i mean try to reverse the transaction in sap in material ledger or in oracle in item ledger you know so so it's not possible right or it is possible but that requires a lot of so i have not seen any company using cooper um but i heard that they acquired a company in the last two years and they are working on bringing the functionality for uh you know supply chain related like you know inventory goods but i but most of the time i have seen so far in the last five years every company using it for indirect okay great great thank you thank you aj for answering all these questions and this is truly a very great session i i really enjoyed it i hope the people at other end also has enjoyed it i have a long list of questions which people have put but i know that you need to go ahead for your meeting so we will will not write down that questions and guys we will try to answer in our next cooper session so please uh be with us uh uh next week we would be trying to cover sap pi and then we'll try to bring ibp and then again next month i will bring ajay again to go ahead with more things in koopa but uh thank you thank you very much ajay for today's session thank you thank you everyone have a good day thank you thank you bye [Music] [Applause] [Music] you