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thank you for coming to this workshop we weren't sure what the audience would be like and it's great to have so many people interested in the subject as Mike said it's amazing what a strong regulation with potential caps on penalties or going up to 4% of annual turnover for international companies it's amazing what that will do for your interest but we're focusing on is not as much to the legal aspects although obviously the legal aspects of the general data protection regulation are the driver for a lot of the growing interest in privacy management data protection management I'll use the terms interchangeably the real focus that we have and what reason we're calling this a workshop as Gershon said is we need input we're attempting to use our Oasis pin rim the privacy management reference model methodology specification it's a specification that our committee developed Don has been on the committee and Antonio Gershon and and others in in Oasis we're tempting to move that into a practi