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good afternoon everybody good afternoon it's 26th November uh 6 o'cl in Sri Lankan time and I thought it's best to start on time so we can finish uh the uh today is actually um couple of announcements that I have to make before I go to a meeting I will do about 10 minutes presentation and then what I would like is a is a discuss in particular see how to how to make things work for 2024 so the announcements are several things one is that um we will have no lead Sunday meetings in December 2023 this will be today will be our last one for 2023 but we will have may have regular updates from time to time which I will email to the whole group or or SMS or or put it on our WhatsApp group and the admin correspondence will be there 24/7 but we'll be planning right the way through for 2024 but I must also announced that the AP apsl is doing a very good meeting on the 10th of December Sunday I have already uh sent the link to you all you need to register for that meeting and that's uh by Dr indrajit Kumar fing I actually wanted to contact him before as well to do a talk I was not able to but but um uh he will have quite a good summary of what needs to be done for Sri Lanka so it's a good meeting to join I'll also try to join it so that's uh those are kind of uh my announcements for today and the agenda today is uh just a little in short to reflect back on what we did in 2023 and about our registration as education charity a little bit more detail about it and what we planned and do in 2024 but we need more ideas into this so I take this chance also to thank you everyone everyone means there's quite a lot of people I'm not going to name anybody because actually they all helped Sri Lanka rather than us we were just a platform and I think we may have made a quite a reasonable impact at least for people because our analytics show that there are more people logging in to to uh us and then uh and despite we not actually requesting any subscriptions anywhere but people seems to subscribe voluntarily to our YouTube channel as well now so um everything about your presentations your comments your criticisms physical assistance at some point to do certain things to achieve certain things and also the trust uh that was empowered to get things done was all useful for our to go forward as a as a united front and and also not just for individuals but as collectively we have done something for our country for the better so the discussion in the discussion what I really need as is to we've always talked about uh quality assurance uh needs for for for Sri Lanka in most of the uh U units and then U it's good that uh we also leads also have a quality assurance method so that we improve as we go and also some of the processes that we have for 2024 so that's what I'm going to do so the 2023 we started with a workshop in um in magona and this was uh designed for about good governance and there are few people who spoke about gave very good ideas and then very good um um promotion to see how we should go for this is right of in the middle of the economic crisis and I'm so grateful for the support that was received from from magon school at the time to horse this and also we also presented at the same time the risk Hazard and safety teaching for children in the same Workshop in the afternoon that ALS was also very popular and we could show a few things over there so the this B Workshop was one of the face T face things we did and we learned uh in the ground in the grassroot level the problems and then actually based on that I was able to uh uh uh promote uh some kind of a uh reaction and luckily s agree to do this documentary foree for foreign [Music] spee so I just wanted to show that uh documentary because it made a such a big impact and uh because it was done through the sanj share bbc and people volunteered to help the schools and I must uh really be grateful to some families from s Lanka who volunteered to support the schools in their meals 3 4 days week for 6 months or more and and and it was so grateful to see so so much gratitude that came from them the staff the students everybody to all these people who supported so that was a fantastic achievement in the middle of that huge crisis uh to get at least children survive this rough period so so this is uh what we were doing and we had a second Workshop in Mel about four months later on and that was very educational because it uh was uh mainly targeting the agriculture uh parents of that school so so they actually benefited because the local Regional Agriculture and also some agriculture experts and professors uh uh join that workshop and that made a good impact and we still have those friendships going and help helping us right the way through helping us means we are helping actually the country so the then the F crisis came in and then uh it was there and then there was a major argument about uh the proposed nuclear power plants in Sri Lanka to resolve the Fel crisis so but then this argument went on uh whether it should be renewable energy and so on it was a very constructive argument and we were able to make an impact I presume we made some Publications like this let's make Sri Lanka renewable energy Hub and not a nuclear risk Island but we our purpose was not really to stop nuclear energy research or nuclear energy research reactors but it was not the probably the time to embark on such a major project which will only produce electricity in 10 years time so this was I think was effective we communicated with the president the uh atomic energy Authority uh United Nations about this and I presume there was some effect out of our Communications then we also talked a lot about our economic recovery and then identified corruption as the major problem that we had in Sri Lanka and that actually not only us lots of us other people also came up and you will know to it has gone to such an extent now and even the the Supreme Court had given judgments against various corrupt uh people so so you can see that whatever we discussed not just us others as well and com contributed in a little way as well or maybe in a more um more U uh effective way uh to get a better understanding about it so so we probably did something on that and then we were uh among the discussions then we suddenly not suddenly with time with very uh very skewed very knowledgeable people who understand the Sri Lankan election system was talking several meetings we had and then we really understood where our root course problem was the root problem of our Sri Lanka was actually the election system where there was no equality for vote so we designed proposals that it should be truly prop proportional and there should be no B seats we need to have a meritocratic solution uh for elections as well and no discarding of votes which is been happening and ensure equality of votes so to do that we actually produced a document about the need for this kind of system and we prepared a full blueprint I'll come to that later on and we have sent that now to all Party leaders and also Soo there is a new commission that is they are looking to revise the election system so we've got that document to the uh the chief of that uh commission as well so let's see what comes out of that then the upgrading University education was a major thing that we focused and then there were quite a lot of academics who participated and we developed a document uh full document in relation to how the university system should improve in Sri Lanka and uh lucky for me this was requested for distribution as well and also was submitted to there's a commission who is looking into University education at the time and this was sent to them as well so so again very good effort and uh we trying to make an impact then we came into a time where I talked about our religions and it was a very very um uh learning curve very big learning for for us about every religion in Sri Lanka we spoke about four Islam Christianity Hinduism and Buddhism and we learned that none of religions are supposed to be anti-human and then we had understanding to say that religions have become platforms to promote divisional politics in Sri Lanka and therefore that is the problem so religion should be considered a private matter and there that's where we stopped and religion should not not be mixed with politics so you can see that now in our arguments and constructive discussions and everything else religion doesn't come in and that is very good we are talking politics or we are talking the the facts and evidence and that's brilliant so so we are making slow progress Then There Was the independence of Judiciary that is uh discussed by the by the lawyers and then we also took this up and talked about how to gain IND dependence of Judiciary and as a result I think we are having uh inputs constantly from the judicial committee who are senior judicial commun community in our WhatsApp group and also sometimes we do get emails as well so so it is very good so we are learning from each other let's see whether we can achieve that objective somebody who is an expert on the express Pearl disasters talk talked to us twice and explain what happened how it happened everything else so that we could learn as to not to have anything like that in the future in Sri Lanka then uh came the issue about State own Enterprises and why certain things should be privately owned why certain things should be publicly owned or in a joint partnership these went on for about three or four discussions and then we could understand or make people understand that private and public words doesn't really mean who funds them so it's probably better to go by to understand who funds these project whether it's self-funded or self-funded people take the risk themselves but if it's public funded then the public had to take the risks and it will affect your pocket even if you didn't know what has happened so so this is the way to make people understand what is going on and then there is um new kind of a political model developing which will be discussed I think in next year then we talked about human rights very eminent lawyer talked about to us about this in U and how to get there and then the promoting tourism now promoting tourism one of the tourism experts uh spoke to us and gave a very good insight as to how to improve uh tourism and we are actually in the process of developing a blueprint for that it's not out yet but we are in that process then the cricket cricket we took it up as a national issue because it was a model that can be shown and explored as to how we will deteriorate to the bottom if the things get politicized and then that is one of the good models that we can see why this happened so it was a good one and uh and we had a good General discussion on that too Dairy farming in Sri Lanka we had a very good talk from a senior veterian and and learned Dairy farming for milk is the thing we can do at kind of a family level or small scale level and Sri Lanka is not ready for major kind of dairy farming so we learned these things and and how to do them and those are very good then also as part of us we were very interested in talking about inovation and little things you know the Sri Lankan potential that is there people are doing small small things but they have huge potential in the world and uh and uh it's our our duty to show that now I just saw a documentary today about the coobra venam in Sri Lanka how how much potential it has so these are the things that we can promote so that the Sri Lanka can keep our own assets and use it for Sri Lanka's benefit rather than to sell it elsewhere so these are the kind of things we should do so then we also have certain outcomes because we were more interested in getting whatever we discuss into some kind of a further future use so we have proficiently agreed road maps for recovery and resolution so we did that and we develop blueprints but this is a slow process because we need to have agreement we need to have talk to uh forward and backwards all these documents before we publish them so so we have not been able to produce a lot of these but we've done some system changes that is critical for electoral reforms we managed to do that enhancing University education we managed to do that as a blueprint and also the U changing Sri Lanka's election system we did that now you can see that is blueprint 15 but we got only three out so there are so many other things that are in the pipeline which we are working on slowly but hopefully we should be able to get those things out as well as we go so if we we together developed our mission and values now we basically we were educational platform educating others so that educating ourselves uh and discussions and so on so that the Sri Lankans can decide better that was the whole thing so in the time we developed certain things like our mission so if you plan to reduce waste say even like say political wastage if you see political wastage reducing political wastage that's something we can do and today I was listening to you about um how Israel became such a mega power and one thing they have done was to reduce the political expenses at the very beginning so so something like that then increasing how to increase inre productivity and research and Innovation I just spoke a little bit about it and these three were our missions so everything what we do seems to fall in one over uh one of these things or more of it which is very good and we promoting Interfaith Harmony for Sri Lanka and that I have just briefed to you about and then we adopted the values that the Singapore followed which we thought was very relevant for us using meritocracy in everything we do hesty and also pragmatism so the walking the talk we also put it in because talk is about reaching a consensus like having a discussion and so on and walk is about uh taking Collective action so we try to follow that as well so these are kind of together we develop these kind of missions and values for us for the leads now I'm glad to say the the the lead registration as education charity in Sri Lanka was completed uh this year and the full Constitution is available on our web um on the on the homepage as the article of Association of leads and the um I must say I must uh we also now have a financial director appointed for us through the council so that we will be able to operate an online account uh in 2024 so all the donations or expenses which will be very specifically named uh will be done only through an online account so that the records will be transparent so so we are thinking about that for next year because we will need it for reasons I'll let you know so the everything what we did is in our homepage as well is in one page and now two things that I want want to mention which we will need your support and help and also advice if possible now edutainment event we entertainment event was Education Plus entertainment event we planned for 2023 but there were few issues issues was that I could not get a event manager and uh I was trying to follow the U follow the uh kind of trend that was brought brought forward by very senior um um artists and then I was planning to or tried to contact or send a letter also to vishar nand and she got very ill unfortunately and also then um I managed to speak to uh Professor Sunil AR ratna about this and then he was quite uh happy to see something like that happening so it he they agreed that they have as a policy Don not do any entertainment event now but they may come into the audience so so that means it's a good thing because you can get advice from such senior people to design this so I'm glad to say um uh there's a there's a leading artist name young person uh sanat VI in Sri Lanka and I spoken to him I spoke at him today also we planning this event now for maybe April or May in 20124 and the location and everything I will discuss shortly with him and he's already started to write a script for this so so it is happening and I will let you know that's where we will need again a account to operate so that we can do this properly the second thing is that because of the brain rain that Sri Lanka had last year we were we and this year also we were focusing on establishing a virtual platform now I must say there's a lot of good positive response for this we're planning to use Microsoft team for that because it's got more features and the the 30 students will be taught at a small fee which will be used to pay the teachers and then sustain the program and uh then uh the the the the video recordings of all the teaching programs will be available free of charge to all the students who wants to log in at any time in Sri Lanka so that is our plan and I'm glad to say five principls who are leading principls willing to engage in this program and then I'll probably meet them next within the next two weeks or so and plan this virtual platform and we will be starting three subjects um uh mathematics science English English not just for students from grade six upwards but also the teachers have requested English classes for them as well so we will be doing that I've already spoken to the um English Chief who does all English programs in University of paradia and he may engage some of his uh Team to do this as well so I'm glad that I got somebody who is very knowledgeable about the English requirements uh is leading this and and also the there was a suggestion that two other subjects that is the basic economics that is not there in any of the curricular at the moment to be taught for children so that kind of economic management at home even may be useful in the future future for them and also Humanity Humanity also we want to teach maybe once a week or once a month whatever as another subject so if there's anybody willing anybody willing who can contribute please uh let us know uh the the plan is probably that depending on the students we allow maximum of 30 students to participate and 70% of the income will directly go to the teacher 30% of the income will be retained for the management of the program so so that is how it will go and I hope uh that will uh be launched soon in January uh yeah so all what we have done uh what we trying to do is there in just one slide in in our homepage in in the website and let's hope we can go forward and thank you once again for everyone so what I'm today want to do is to get some kind of a qual Assurance system into leads as well is to ensure so quality assurance we need to ensure that we meet the quality standards and customer requirements customer here is not just the people who are listening to us but also the the the people who are benefiting that's the customers is it fit for its intended purpose whether we our model that we do is is it good enough to serve the purpose and meet or exceed the customer expectations that's what we need so customer expectation is something crucial that we need in quality assurance that's what I need to so basically it is feedback so I quite like if you come today say what you want to say because then we can think about implementing these for the 2024 and once again thank you for spending time on a Sunday it's usually two hours or so on this program and I will stop here and then please do talk and let us know what is best we can do for the next next year thank you so much anything any ideas ch ch could I could I just ask few things yeah um I think we in one session we talked about upali cam yes and and then we passed that to Professor AIT di Alis yeah I did not get any response that is what I wanted to ask I didn't get any any response afterwards yeah obviously you haven't got anything so perhaps we may need to follow it up with him yeah I may be doing it differently because now um because they were doing a short kind of education program I may be able to meet them as well uh next month and uh used our virtual platform which we are trying to established for them to start to do a little bit of teaching at least so that then they will be able to get them down there to do their practical session so we can start a short course or something which if they want to charge for it they can do it but then promote it that way so that it becomes a more established course and that's one way to go for it I'm telling you because this in 1994 okay uh when India started uh critical care training programs they were not allowed to do it in in intensive care training they have a they were not registered by uh by the uh medical Council but uh the few doctors who got together I knew them and they forced It Forward they forcefully did a course and then now what has happened they've got registered they've got a internationally accit a journal they've got courses that are this thing and then now ultimately that's was recognized you see so we can do it if we make it happen so uh with in relation to balam that's probably what I'm planning to do I will probably meet them and then uh do that yeah so on the on the same subject in January I'm going to um Sri Lanka I will be there for about five weeks I'll be going through minate so perhaps if it is helpful I can just a good thing to talk to them he's a very nice gentleman just talk to him and if we can get at least a small program started we can teach them how to use the online program he's got young young not young they are actually um good children who are quite committed to do it as well so we'll be able to give a little hand and then start in singala and then convert it to some English sections or something and then people will definitely get interest from internationally to come in so that's one of the way to use it so you can use the virtual platform that we are going to start for that purpose so because it will be paid for and they just free to use it so okay one other thing I wanted to ask we have been we heard about nuclear plants coming to Sri Lanka and it has gone quiet is anybody knows what has happened uh the recent uh months and weeks I don't know I don't think it has gone forward because otherwise we would have heard it and Melinda who was communicating with us a lot about this who was the junior officer who was involved with this uh then he withdrew from all communication at some point about two months ago my feeling is that it did probably didn't go through probably because we wrote to and actually uh we wrote the pros and cons that we put together uh I wrote it to the United Nations and also we sent a letter to uh uh International atomic energy Authority as well can yeah regarding this nuclear power issue last week I saw in one of the TV channels I think either channel one or channel three one of the these government own channels uh the program about 15 minutes uh it's uh ing to that program I think uh they are coming here so they were showing some short videos how Nu how important nuclear power is uh so uh and and Professor Rosa also gave a short speech so something uh is going to start I mean that's a feeling I got no that is lak I think it may be the research reactor that they were talking about which was not much of a problem for for for us as such not research reactor yes research reactor is the one I think they were it's a barge or something that's going to come yeah yeah something like yeah it's not the main kind of main power plant that we were in concerned about worried about the research as power reactor yeah yeah exactly I think that's probably what they were talking about so so that means it's a kind of established unit if it's a barge that's coming that will be just pulled over w't it I don't know yeah yeah yeah uh yeah it comes in modular versions and you can fit it anywhere you can I mean yeah add modes later or something yeah yeah but the question is I half so I didn't get the full message yeah but there's a election here coming and then everybody will stop and do something else now these days you know on the same same subject if the nuclear energy power plants are not relevant to the country why do we have a research plant on that subject isn't that come under wastage no no not really because you can develop all these medical Isotopes and things like that using I mean it's happening in parad University there's a nuclear uh you know unit that's a different thing no no that is that is they're not producing Isotopes they're using Isotopes boards from Elsewhere for medical diagnos but constructing Isotopes is a different work so that will give opportunity for people who want to learn research in relation to nuclear power Etc as well I think the risks and everything is very different uh in relation to that kind of a project compared to nuclear power plant like the huge ones we have with you know so much exhaust and everything else d and both um that that program as I mentioned I joined halfway that TV program so and they were talking about Green energy you know so that is where the problem is I remember DH was mentioning when we start green energy discussions uh can there be something hidden in this plans Greener green green energy is become a business venture at the moment it's like it's a huge competition I mean that may probably will know what is happening I think solar panels also there are some 200 kind of businesses trying to do various things so that is not what we are talking I mean the the the question is you know getting importing everything and installing it not what we really want we want a little bit of a you know uh technological innovation advance in Sri Lanka itself that's how it can go forward and um so hopefully it will go go in the right direction but that is why we talking about we need a right government to direct it as well so otherwise we'll be more debt ridden and and that's going to happen because nobody's talking about the debt at the moment it's mostly about elections now so yes L yeah uh this is on maybe a related issue uh Chula I think next year I'm suggesting to have a session one or two and in the case of Sri Lanka uh R&D and commercialization R&D and Commercial that's a that's a that is basically entrepreneurships how to promote it and and because now we know in the in the University system and also research institutes in Sri Lanka I mean research wise they are doing okay at the international level research but it's ending up with you know publishing papers and and some awards for research but it doesn't go beyond that doesn't go beyond that because you you just can't get the patent thing and Innovation because there is no mechanism that pH is nonexistent in Sri Lanka actually Institute like sry NSF NRC or the ministry should have a unit now because you brought up this subject I was going to bring it up next year but can I propose something now which you can think about D and others who are interested in research now uh the Malaysian model is that uh if you go to the university if you have a researcher who has a innovation of something they will uh the university will take it up to do all the patenting and everything get entrepreneur contracts and commercializing and everything else and then at the end if you earn something out of that the net profit when you take net profit 70% of the net profit is paid to the innovator and and 30% again uh goes to the university for future work in relation to that area what I'm asking is can we form a company who will do that that means you get Innovations from people we can get Global interaction in relation to uh this and then uh you know commercialize it and then give the net profit 70% to the innovator I mean this could be not just University Research but also people who are working on Venoms people who are working on carpentry etc etc and so that we independent Independent by with the government independence from any of the other universities you can do it just with the innovator to take this forward so the country will benefit so the what I would suggest is that if we are forming a company like that we should register it somewhere in a developed country as a company so that we have all the checks and balances that is provided into that because you can't have just a company in in for example UK or something annually you have a huge commitment to produce various documents and and so on but because it's got such stringent uh uh scrutiny we may be able to take it forward as a company in Sri Lanka so use everyone so because if you advertise there are lots of things I mean there are people make little planes there are people make little kind of uh lots of lamps even you know little things that can be Innovative things that can be promoted in a commercial fashion for the the world and then whatever the income that comes 70% net profit will go to that person 30% will come to the uh company so the company can have certain payments for the people who give their opinions or whatever so that has to be decided within the company so you know if you have say five people getting together with an accountant and and somebody it will be good because there are people who have interest who knows how to do a patenting there are people who knows how to get interpration contracts and so on so that will be a good job for our uh educated people to do and they can end of the day end of the day the main hurdle is the funding required for commercialization even if it is a company even if it is a company where do we start so okay from Innovation if you have an innovation one way to do it is to because if if you have a trusted company that means registered properly a trusted company one is we can use even our platform to get donations that can be refunded later on that's number one number two is we can even claim uh certain um uh grants that are specifically given to developing countries to develop certain areas sometimes you get uh uh certain things U specifically for a particular project so there you may be able to use that as well and there'll be people not just in Sri Lanka but very strong innovators in based in us or UK or even other countries uh who may willing to join you don't have to what we need is a good administrative structure so that if it's something to do with Salish solar energy Innovation something yeah then you will be able to get that small group to work with this Administration so their cost the time and everything will be allocated into it and they can be paid once it is successful successful mean at least if it's pained you can give a certain amount of payment for the people who contributed so so people can't work free of charge because it's time and everything else is such a big issue so we need to somehow reimburse the efforts put by people but there's enough experience to do that and that is something that I wanted to propose uh having written a little bit of document at least but I have not been able to write a document but now because you asked the question I thought I'll mention that d d how does it happen in Sheffield my experience uh I have written six patterns but all these six patterns all depends on uh the project whether you can do it in fact the the my project is on new ideas on solar energy it is a um it is in fact a project for Silicon Valley in United States it needs lot of funds it needs a lot of people even in UK even in UK we couldn't do it I tried my best and at the end University said we can't keep these uh patterns they are very expensive they ask me that whether you want it just imagine if the university can't PID how can I maintain those six patterns I said let it you know elapse you know I I didn't want them if the university can't pay for six patterns to keep them with my salary I can't do it so patenting is hopeless if you can't uh if you can't make it to a sellable product within the country so that's why you need the companies that is my experience that's why we need the companies who are in it and doing patenting I mean in the medical world I mean imagine some of these companies what they're doing I mean I see it every conference when you go you come from with the same thing with a new machine with new colors and everything and it's the same data it just you know how they promote it and so on so you need someone like that into the system so that is why the networking what we are doing now uh will be useful because there'll be more people who are willing to uh come in but the trust is so important because we need to have very trustworthy system to do it yeah just one more Point what I saw from South Korea when I visited the South Korean universities yeah every Professor who is very active in research has a company registered yeah uh with his research and if the research is successful the the government and the university support it to make it to a final product so that way they are they are successful we don't what I'm suggesting now if you have a company which will be multifaceted in the sense lakman has got a different expertise you have a different expertise and even the other people might join you know if it's a good one they will join to be in the background so they can become useful if there's an issue and then what we need to do is to have company contracts in the sense companies we know them they it's not too difficult because you go to a conference there's so many people and you ask from them uh saying you know what about this product I've got idea about it they will contact you and and then you can take it forward so say for example the the various all these conferences annual conference ET that you have in relation to your subjects yeah you can even join online these days to or even to the exhibition hall and then uh you'll be able to connect up with these people and then suggest so they may come forward if you can give that little bit of a thinking to say this can be a product like this you see so that's uh will be something useful say for example even if to take solar energy in Sri Lanka you know you know some kind of a way to power the batteries in the cars or something like that you know so the problems you have in different different areas just address little things and even kerosene lamps and everything else I know people in Sri Lanka device there are lots of innovators who just become an innovation and then stop there so if we have a small company you advertise saying you know join us tell us what but to have innovator then we may be able to take it Forward what I'm saying is it's a long-term project but it might take like five years to be fully established by that time you know there'll be 100 people wanting to join but the initial b is the problem yeah I agree with T I don't know we whether we it's a company or I mean uh this this is the missing missing step in Sri Lanka and to add to what DH said at the ifm another there are few examples ifs there's a group who has developed lithiumion batteries using Sri Lankan graphite and got a government grant over the last three years and they have developed on their own uh product they can make now buttons sales you know button button so so look at look at that Innovation now lithium batter is a major demand at the moment yeah yeah and and and Sri Lanka has lithium as well but the purification is mostly done by Chinese that's the problem so you got 80 9% of the lithium products coming out of China the raw material is there in the US and everywhere they are not refining it to proper lithium at the moment that's what I understand no this ifs project they start with that's a very good one isn't it yeah yeah no yeah they started with way graphite natural graphite from Sri Lanka b b somewhere and they have refined it chemically processed and they have made the coin sale batteries now they have got three patterns uh not my group uh my joining lab they have got five three pns over the last five years now they have there were some people like Chula suggested some companies you know from foreign companies local companies they come and have discussions and and we don't I mean they yeah just a minute they want that is that is the problem so you don't need you have a so they are they are new on that so they are new the foreign companies will come and grab it that's the that is the Happ yes yes but if we have a very experience group like say for example if you can create something like that that is not registered in Sri Lanka but elsewhere so that those companies will become more accountable so that we work as the intermediary so that so that we know what fulfillments they have to do to do a proper contract so that the Sri Lanka will benefit obviously they will want the profits so if they get want the profits then at least 50% should go back to Sri Lanka isn't it what happens now is you just pay like 5% and then take the rest out that's what's happening yeah yeah yeah this a problem now now these people want right from the start they want they want us to you know researchers to Value the patn how people don't know how to do this even exactly that's what we need to do that is why I'm saying we may be able to form for a group if you have at least a small company we can have advisory committees or something so we can invite from others if we are going for it we'll may be able to form a company so that be done with a government mediation yeah lman and chulah let me tell you what I have tried in 2010 I I had I think laxman knows very well uh apsl Awards the first one for children second one for entrepreneurs my aim was to select four five good projects I mean we selected five we celebrated it in NSF Auditorium our aim was to uh through professionals uh get some funds and select three or four of them and go through the uh scaling up and then commercialization but when it CES to funding side all the professionals didn't support so I stopped there so can you see you say that you know people will fund but that doesn't happen in practice that is why you need to have a trustworthy system to do it you don't get you can't get funds just like that because every company or every individual who is giving any funds will look for something in return at least a tax return or something like that that is why I'm saying that you need to register this kind of a company in a place where there's very stringent rules so that we got all the good aspects that is required to have a very good company which has got a world reputation so that we can get the Innovations from Sri Lanka to go forward it's not I mean our professions say I understand a little bit of medicine I don't understand the rest of Innovations and there are so many many Innovations that's in Sri Lanka that has going nowhere say imagine you know saying somebody talking this morning saying Cobra Venom is one of the best in the world from Sri Lanka now imagine if you can develop some kind of a antibody or some kind of a treatment for some medical thing how expensive it will be I mean I remember once I was doing some work with adma and I showed a little bit of powder and he told me how much this will cost1 15,000 for that little bit of power that's the kind of value you have in Sri Lanka that's what we can do but we cannot do through in the government because the government is not stable enough and also they they don't understand the way it works I mean I know they had a patenting system in Sri Lanka and I was trying to develop a AI program now with AI is so big went to patent the program that we had developed in Columbo and one of professors from engineering faculty and myself were standing there for 6 hours waiting to be interviewed and the man who was interviewing was so dead he was so tired he couldn't even do anything so so the the whole process is broken down even before it starts so the um I think we can do it at least we can initiate so that people will come uh I have to see but uh if you see the system in the US they are more research oriented you may be able to contact someone and ask I can ask even I tried with my professionals around me when it CES to funds they step down so I think we it have find they have to we have to find a way to fund it like donors or donors in the sense donations in return as a partnership or something that's how it will go so oh or return the money with something as well so so they have that was my thinking that was my thinking but we'll try again we'll try again yeah we have to try no no I'm saying but we have better bra better brains in we all know certain aspects in Corners yeah so we don't know the whole thing like the accounting how to contact the entrepreneurs how to promote them all that kind of stuff we don't know we've never done that but there are people who can do that I mean I can even the CEOs from like bers and things like that in Sri Lanka who who had lot of experience and they might even contribute uh n n you going to say something you said but listening to what you're talking about I think when you're doing something like this you basically have to look for Venture Capital you'll get the volumes and you will get the capital which is looking for your speci speciality to invest in and it's up to you then to manage the capital that is raised and produce results it's a fairly straightforward I don't think donations will work but this mechanism is already in place we just got to just need to make use of say say you are expert on that area look at that say you get a different idea to totally to what we are talking about that's that's what we can do as a kind of a internationally kind of a global forum so we can do that and and Sri Lanka is small if you start something like that there'll be other people interested as well if you're very efficient it's all it's all about connectivity isn't it and that's how it goes and and and we all know as a group we may be able to establish that connectivity that is what I was saying what do you think D well there are various ways of getting this funding Venture Capital uh business angel my my thinking was to establish a business Angel yeah so that we can we can uh develop a capital go to Sri Lanka and then select few good projects and scale it up and then get a uh you know return to the uh apsl as well but uh that that didn't work but it doesn't mean that we can't do it we'll try it again no no we have to have a model that will benefit whoever who contributes because nobody actually in today's world nobody has the time even this two hours is valuable for some people they can't just come in because I mean I'm kind of partially retired so I'm using some time but if you asked me to do it 10 years ago I would not have been able to do it because you you are always in this Rat Race so so the that is why you need to uh yeah one other thing one other thing I'm I'm very closely following the US system yeah because my my my daughter has a startup company in us that is why I'm following it yeah uh for for for their research uh first of all National Science Foundation Department of uh energy they have been supporting in millions it's not a small amount yeah and then only they manage to get Venture Capital Venture capitals they don't come if they don't see a product it's it's it comes they come they have 5 million they want to make it 10 million that is what they are looking at so to go to venture capitals and business angels uh we have to have some kind of you know very close to the product uh that process is like laxman says not in the country yes this exactly it's a missing missing thing here it will be it will be missing in the C model because there no model to develop it in Sri Lanka that's the trouble so that is why people who have now experienced abroad elsewhere and have more connectivity should start at a more International level then only you'll be able to take this forward and then I I think I've sent a documentary about how isra whatever it is what they're doing now how they became a mega power in in there they they show how how they have even promoted you know tourism to the desert so so so this is the kind of thing that you can do it needs not just our thinking or company or connectivity but also publishing and all that so if you have say 10 people who's got different expertise like you know accountancy systems or who have business uh experience who have uh communication experience it experience and then individual professionals like us who will do medicine or chemistry or something then we'll be able to connect it up but it has to be a very trustworthy company so if something happens is absolutely transparent and and and and also not corrupt that's that's the most important part of it otherwise people will back off they won't come come with anything so so it's something that I was thinking about for 2024 but let's see whether we can make it happen I will I will try to see um I will ask from the US uh teams as well send I know one or two people who may be able to that is in medicine though but still we can ask and see yeah better to have a session or two I think uh yeah yeah we can do a little session about it how to formulate um a Sri Lankan say research promoting company that will also take it right to the end to get a commercial companionship oh here also we have the problem that what D mentioned uh this my friend who developed the lithium batteries he has got three patn now these patn are has to be renewed every year yeah yeah it's costly every year the cost inre exactly so when you get a patent you better sell it everything before five years otherwise otherwise you lost it so and every other the cost increases right that every year every I I'll just mention this because the university our aim was um to to have international patterns or us patterns but uh our um Enterprise Center saw the expenses so they converted all these patterns into GB patterns in fact a company from Silicon Valley came to meet me I was ready to go to silic Valley and at the end they were trying to get the patterns and they found that they were GB patterns and they said straight away at that point they said we can't use GB patterns in United States exactly if you have a us or International patterns even the university can't pay for their patterns so that is the problem yeah except course yeah yeah but we don't need to give up we can still think about it and then take it for but I mean yeah I mean just like we started this forum with nothing so still going with nothing and then then uh we have still very good ideas and I think we made a good impact in Sri Lanka as well we have to discuss strategies right yeah yeah yeah yeah but this kind of thing will need a very positive forward very independent kind of a group like you know five six seven people who will openly criticize when they come to a discussion and criticize you to the health but then ultimately it will be a good outcome so we need that kind of people to do it not you know smiling all the time but shouting at you as we have to follow countries like Malaysia South Korea yeah yeah so I mean we may be able to contact somebody who has got very good entrepreneurship skills and Got U got some kind of connectivity from elsewhere as well into that kind of a company if you f if you find a small thing and register it somewhere then us is probably the best place to register is because they are very research oriented and then take it from there so then uh I mean it's costly at the beginning but we may be able to find some way to fund it and then take it Forward okay CH thank you so that's for next year yeah yeah I mean it's a new thinking which I had about two three months ago I was thinking whether we can do this to support our things and then take it forward and even upal we can yeah exactly problem yeah yeah and even that can be commercial so that's where you can start yeah yeah I will I will try to contact opali when I'm in Sri Lanka in December so I'll go and talk to him if possible yeaha one other thing we need to consider this is something from my last three Decades of experience there are some brilliant communicators in Sri Lanka very few majority of the people don't communicate yeah if you send a email to get a response uh you have to send at least two or three emails uh this is the culture I think we need to somehow through education encourage people to effectively communicate one example I will tell you uh without mentioning the name I think we did this uh a person who is planning to go into politics in Sri Lanka came here to UK we have organized a lead discussion and also a face tof face interview and after that I communicated with three emails not a single email that is the problem if this is the future political leaders that shows that they are very selfish people exactly exactly so uh I mean these people are the people who are going to come into politics in the future yeah if they don't communicate properly exactly I don't want anybody saying thank you to me but when I send three emails they have the courtesy to say at least one email yeah yeah that is something we need to improve I think in every uh uh event we have Yeah Yeah from Young that doesn't go with everybody in the sense isn't it I mean I get so many many emails I reply to everything at least one word as a reply so at least exactly you you somebody knows that at least I have read it at least so otherwise you can't do it and and that is why I managed to that is exactly why I mean you say communication that is why I establish a huge connection with Japan when I was doing education in Alli H they just came forward just like nothing justy the word they will fund your people to go there bring the students down there they'll find the money and everything just just communication that's all I mean but I can I can communicate with the Japanese though as well and ask about it we have something that's a culture isn't it we have to develop that culture within Sri Lanka as well not few people but you can have both culture in the sense is a it's like accountability or responsibility it's like a social responsibility basically so that will that will hopefully develop but I can I can contact a Japanese person and then ask who was very close to me at some point professor in Japan who who who might give some ideas as to what politician has lost already one vot what that politician he already lost one word no that is that you get that kind of people talk wonderful I mean uh I don't know lak might remember when V came to once and spoke to the council remember that one Senate yeah he was so impressive wasn't and what a cook at the end what a the same same game yeah yeah but that's okay but that is what we should net the skill and then you know get the skill into this not everybody is perfect everybody's got weaknesses but then we can use it together that's why you need a very stringent company so that you got so many rules that you have to follow so us is probably a good model I will just communicate and see with people you know I will also communicate and Sweden is another good one you got connections there isn't it lakman because Sweden is one of the least corrupt countries so they will have a good system as well yeah any other feedback in relation to what we're doing anything else um anybody else who wants to say anything at all okay uh can I ask karini any ideas you got ideas karini hello she's quiet she's an Innovative person as well she might have ideas she might I'll talk to her later and cap can contribute yeah capil also is a good person he's got good ideas as well so we can talk to him as well Nalan you just showed us that thing think about this and tell us so we can have a little other arm to improve Innovations in Sri Lanka I mean it doesn't have to be a paper based or usual University type of publicity there are local people who innovate little things you know very good ones as well and all all that can be commercialized so easily okay right thank you then we having a good meeting yes some yeah so I've got a comment there as well yeah okay so there was a proposal that we use uh the name as uh not customers but as clients just to clarify what we're doing yeah that's good um yeah I think I think let's see let's see think I we got December to think about it tell me what we think just try to put a little document together and find a country where we can work and register this um we can't register in Sri Lanka go forward and if if as dharm says if can't register in the uh UK and then go forward uh then that's even more this thing yeah so let's think about that I think I think we may be able to do something and uh let's start withalm in relation to courses as well so that we get into that platform as well actually is the commission inventors commission person no yeah yeah but the question is they will come in when they are prominent that's what it is so we need to start it and show what we doing and they'll say yes yes I want to come in and so on that's how it works they don't come in the ground level I know everything like this anything good you start and then say three years down the line when you get a little bit of reputation there'll be 100 people interested that's how it goes I thought I thought upal is producing lot of uh sellable product so they are already there I don't why uh no one is interested it's being exploited that's what's happened say for example all all the talents that they have is bought by all these various people including politicians and they don't pay them back so they can't take the next step at all they don't have the money to invest in the technical aspects and everything else so they're just managing and surviving that's the issue maybe I should talk to them again I I'll I'll give them a call when I get to Sri Lanka and then then talk to him and and then to think about a course so then take it forward and and say that we also thinking about this Innovative aspect of things he will trust me because I've always worked with him with trust so 100% no problem yeah that's good anyway it's a good discussion we had some good ideas also uh to take forward and U thank you all yeah okay so any connections any ideas in relation to this just email me over December and January we restart yeah all right thank you J okay thank you thank you bye bye