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foreign I see that it is right at seven o'clock so we're gonna go ahead and get started uh we wanna honor your time and we thank you all for joining us this evening for the January installment of the Kansas 4-H animal science webinar series uh we are going to continue this webinar series but I do want to let you know that after this month we're gonna go to a recorded format and so we will process through how we're going to do the Q a on that um but want to make sure that we honor your time this evening a couple of housekeeping things uh we are recording and we will post the recording to the Kansas 4-H animal science webinar um website and we do ask that if you would give us your feedback there is a qualtric survey link on that page as well and it just allows us to evaluate the value and the effectiveness of the webinars series and there should be an option in there for you to give us some ideas of additional webinars that you would be interested in attending so you are welcome to go back and listen to this later on um or if you need to just refresh your memory on a few things that's a good opportunity I Am Kelsey Nordike I am the Southeast region 4-H specialist and then also the 4-H AG science specialist and with me tonight is Dr Carol Fike from the Department of animal Science and Industry with Kansas State University and she's going to share with you tonight about animal nutrition career path opportunities we are going to have an opportunity for Q a you're welcome to go ahead and enter those into the chat and we'll address those questions or at the end we'll also give the give you the chance to either enter your questions into the chat or go ahead and unmute and ask your questions then with that I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to to Dr Fike and I'm going to mute and we'll get started thank you Kelsey I'm glad to be here with you this evening and I appreciated having the opportunity last fall to share a little bit about career paths and opportunities in the animal reproduction realm and when Kelsey reached out earlier about talking about animal nutrition I had indicated that while I'm not an animal nutritionist one of the roles that I have in the department is working with our students on a career path and internship opportunities and um so I wanted to come at it from that angle to share with you tonight um just you will barely scratch the surface of some examples of um the companies and organizations that are students coming through animal Sciences do it as interns during their college time and then go on to in full-time jobs and sometimes additional education earning potentially for some master's degrees or phds and um that deal with animal nutrition and so we're going to touch on a few of those examples you know we probably won't cover every species and every type of opportunity in tremendous detail but it will certainly give you a perspective um of the things that the wide variety of um opportunities that exist for young people like yourself to establish to establish careers and and uh um and to work in in animal Agriculture and with companion animals and uh food animals alike um so as you see my email is here Carol ksu.edu uh if there's things that we can help you with to follow up with please don't don't hesitate to drop me an email and on the right there that QR code if you would want to use that um now and go back and get it later when it's posted um to sharing your contact information if there's some things that we can follow up with you on um just what educational opportunities there are um or however we might be able to help you if you want to make sure and address that so as as we go forward um I'm just here got a smattering of examples of um the kind of species that were we Encompass in animal Sciences uh and um and we're going to try and talk about um animal nutrition uh as related to all these species and so um that ranges from sheep and goats and I'll give you some examples here um this is one of our animal Sciences student up in the upper left-hand corner at our sheep and goat unit that is working in it uh as a part of a class an undergraduate research class doesn't mean you have to want to be a researcher in animal Sciences but where they're learning about the species or more in depth about those species in a Hands-On role at our sheep and meat goat units um learning about how a different dietary formulation might affect average daily gain or feed efficiency or might affect some other performance measures or meet out outcome for animals that are harvested for meat and so I get in an idea of how to conduct research how to communicate about research and in this case many of those projects have involved the nutrition realm uh same thing has been done in our animal units on the swine side of things in the um they do many swine related nutrition studies and our undergraduate students are actively involved in gaining those experiences again whether or not they want to particularly go into a career in animal nutrition understanding research getting a variety of experiences with different species is integral to that um here also in the upper left hand corner where we have a young man this is just from a program that we just had a couple weeks ago in the department called our feedlot boot camp and we have tremendous amount of Industry supporters and um uh we took 17 students from Kansas State in both animal sciences and agriculture economics AG business um and spent a few days out at Garden City and going to a variety of feedlots and in this case we have this young man that is working from an animal nutrition standpoint on creating Corn Flakes steam flaked corn that is a common dietary ingredient in our Western Kansas feedlot industry and understanding um proper nutrition and the creation of a proper flake and how to read bunks when we're feeding cattle and judge what their needs are and to maximize average daily gain of the deficiency and that was one small part of that whole uh week-long hands-on experience in addition to getting to network with a variety of Industry professionals from a nutritional Consultants to feedlot managers to animal people from Animal Health companies that provide products to the feedlots um where we're trying to again make connections and not only learning but again for internships and and jobs and um so those are just some examples but we deal with all of species listed here um swine the horses to Dairy and beef cattle to cats and dogs to poultry and to sheep and goats and that encompasses what we're all about here in animal sciences and then more specifically in the nutrition Realm so the next few slides I just want to go through with you not expected to read all of this on the internship examples but I thought since this is going to live on after if we want to go back and look in more detail um but I'm going to give you some examples of where our students have done internships and again where there's internships that there's jobs and that are related to animal nutrition and so this is an example of Clayton sardella a graduate from a handful of years ago from uh animal sciences and he was a feed sales intern with uh Land of Lakes Purina and what they do in the case of some of their internships is they actually have um a a collaborative arrangement with the company Land O'Lakes uh Purina that is involved in um a feed product development research sales and marketing and then local co-ops that carry those Land O'Lakes and uh feed in Purina products so that might be a local Cooperative in North County or in your nearby town that may have this again collaborative relationship and so Clayton if I remember correctly he was um with Lando Lakes Purina at a co-op in the Southeastern part of Kansas uh for the summer and um and again he was a feed sales intern and so he was working on you know developing relationships with customers that had livestock whether that be horses whether that be beef cattle whether that be show pigs um in the area and understanding how they could be of help as a representative of that local co-op in Land O'Lakes Purina products um to provide products and services for their operations and so you're involved in education you're involved in sales you're involved in identifying new customers um ultimately that are that are bringing together um the people that are producing and providing expertise about these products to um to raise those animals and care for those animals again cross the ride with livestock species and so um that's what Clayton was involved in he actually went on to a full-time position with Lando Lakes uh Purina right after graduation and then actually went on to um and a couple other jobs in his uh in the in the course of a couple years and is now uh with a with a company called zoletis and specifically with what's called performance livestock analytics that also has a nutrition component to it um and so uh examples of where um where career paths can take you they have also internships in specifically uh here you see animal nutrition and husbandry where you're maybe involved in conducting feeding demonstrations as it says um in this description um and marketing if you're more on the communication side and have some creativity components to your want to be involved in social media they have um responsibilities in those Realms as well as the technical Realms of new product development and sales so one example there uh here's another example of a student that is now completing his name is sets and Herzog that's now completing his uh master's degree in Dairy nutrition here but he was an undergraduate student um he's actually from Indiana and he came to Kansas State University because of you know the things that we offer and the Hands-On opportunities and and really being on the heart of livestock country um and he had specifically done an internship with a local to him and back in Indiana but we have the same kinds of operations and the same kind of businesses here in the state of Kansas but he worked with a company called belstra Milling uh who doesn't exist in Kansas but we have other you know feed Milling operations uh in the state of Kansas and so um in his uh internship as a feed manufacturing and Milling intern he was involved in the manufacturing of custom feed products this is just one example of a goat show feed that and um that company might be involved in you could have you could find equine products you'd find beef cattle products you can find dairy cattle products right but somebody's got a manufacture these feeds that you would find in a co-op that you would find in a place like Tractor Supply or Orscheln Farm Supply or again at a local co-op or you might have custom manufactured for your own particular needs and your own particular operation and so um he was involved in uh ration formulations working with producers and with the people at that company again in sales and Consulting and um and and those uh types of products can be produced for both livestock and pets it just depends on the nature of the company in operation so um that could be as you can see Stetson down here on the bottom center um you know organizing and moving feed products um as as they're being shipped out to different uh to different customers in the upper right hand corner where he is um involved in the manufacturing in this case a particular pre-mix that's going to go into the manufacturing of a particular product and understanding the logistics of this whole big manufacturing facility and um and being involved in that operations and back from day to day so that's just another example um here's one that we've just been communicating or I've just been communicating in the past couple of weeks um to our current students um because they have this internship that's called this big nutrition internship that is available to our students for this coming summer of 2023 and they have to submit applications for this opportunity and again where there's internships There's jobs and that's why these companies are seeking young people and seeking college students um you know to come and work with them and and to gain some insight and experience and and to help them again pave the way with some experience to what they might want to do for their longer term careers um and so this is one where the applications for this are due at the end of the month here um but this is called the beef nutrition internship the young lady that's pictured on the left hand side of the screen um her name is Jordan O'Neill I knew her as Jordan Cox at the time she was here as an undergraduate student but she uh did her did her undergraduate degree here in animal sciences and then went on and earned her Masters and PhD um and is currently a nutrition consultant with Great Plains livestock Consulting um but they have this great coins livestock Consulting has roles within their company and organization uh at the bachelor's level at the Master's Degree level and at the PHD level and so she just happened to go on and and uh earn her PhD and become this nutritional consultant and so specifically in the nutrition internship role um they they are assisting these consultants and there's I want to say uh probably 15 20 maybe 25 full-time Consultants uh in her case she Services territories kind of in the Southeastern part of the United States but the bulk of the areas that they service are cow calf and feedlots um kind of in the Great Plains states and so in the central part of Midwestern um but they are expanding in other areas and so that's why she's located there um and so they're doing feedlot Consulting ration formulation for feeding programs again most of this is related to Beef Cattle but I think they also do some dairy cattle work um um you know understanding uh profitability and profit projections for their customers um developing mineral formulations for the particular needs what might be deficient in the grasses and what might be in abundance in the grazing of areas um and understanding that in designing uh mineral formulations that are particular to that customer and their needs so that those might be examples of what you do um and the intern is assisting those Consultants um learning by um visiting with their various potential customers feed mills Farms ranches Big cattle producers or speed Lots um developing customers writing uh articles about the services they offer and about new and contemporary issues um in the in the animal nutrition industry they're now the nutrition realm and so that's another example here we're shifting gears a little bit on species um probably many of you have heard about you know Hills uh Hills nutrition Hills Pet nutrition and so uh Hills uh has uh their headquarters right now out of Topeka Kansas is my understanding so they have their manufacturing facilities and their headquarters out of Topeka my understanding is it was recently announced that part of their um I think part of their headquarters um just because they're expanding and growing maybe so much and and uh want to have a footprint in the Kansas City area and so it's not that they're leaving Topeka it's kind of that they're um they're having some of their um Administration located in the Kansas City area as well that was announced recently um Emily Hudson the young lady that's pictured in the bottom like left-hand corner is um again a former K-State animal science students graduated in the past couple of years she did an internship with um Hills while she was a student so uh maybe going a couple of days a week from Manhattan Kansas to Topeka and working part-time and then earned a job upon her graduation and went up a couple steps I think in her roles and is now an associate scientist in their research and Innovation and so aquatic development um for pets and so um different kind of nutrition but the same principles apply um it's just that we're working on um Companion Animal um particularly cats and dogs and other small animal species um for their nutritional products and so I've kind of highlighted on the right hand side or not highlighted but put in the red box maybe some of those areas that are most directly related to where our animal Sciences students goes so a quality assurance of those ingredients that go into pet food manufacturing um research and development so um understanding how adding an ingredient adding a particular ingredient might change the color or the flavor of a pet food product and it can be flavorful but if it doesn't have a nice appealing color that the parents of the pet thinks is okay for their um for their or their pet then the the parents of the pet the owner might not purchase that product so right we got to understand something about not just quality but the appearance the smell the taste for the pet and somebody's got to do research on that right somebody has got to um you know have the the dogs and cats that have a choice of which product to pick and which they pick which did they pick more often um what are we still meeting their nutritional requirements um understanding that in the research and development process and then you got to buy people that are involved in sales and marketing and so they may be beating with veterinary clinics with veterinarians with um uh retail places that market The Hills Pet products and meeting with them and meeting their needs in terms of products and trying to develop new customers for those products and so we have animal Sciences students that are involved in uh any and all of these areas and certainly again there's there's internships and where there's internships there's jobs that we have students going into those roles coming through animal sciences that relate to animal nutrition on the completing the animal side and there's many more companies than just Hills you know there's Mars pet care for example there's um many again many other companies across the United States that this is one right in our backyard um here's another example probably a lot of you have maybe seen the Cargill logo or heard of Cargill um have a definite presence a a significant presence in the state of Kansas uh but frankly uh worldwide um but um we have Cargill me Solutions uh in based in Wichita we have cartwheel nutrition um in the Kansas City area um this uh young man his name is Connor chesky and he came through animal sciences and um did a couple of different internships and one of them was with pargill as a management association associate intern and really as a management associate that's kind of a fancy word or title where they they get to go through um various aspects of um the types of rules and responsibilities within Cargill animal nutrition um in that way then when and if they get hired on in a full-time role they they know where their what part they like best and Cargill knows where that person fits best in terms of um in terms of the types of job and those responsibilities and so um he uh ended up going through this internship and now is working full-time for Cargill at the Kansas City area and if I remember correctly I think he is in um either commodity merchandising or uh earning pricing if I remember correctly uh in a full-time role and so these are examples of you know where there's internships and specific jobs within Cargill animal nutrition so pricing might involve pricing of specific ingredients that go into manufacturing a particular fee um supply chain strategy and execution that's a fancy term for okay well do we make sure that if we're going to use these particular or particular products to manufacture or particular ingredients to manufacture a particular feed product can we readily access those for reasonable prices for an extended period of time uh so that we have a quality and a consistent product um feed formulation again merchandising Employee Engagement um so a variety of things that aren't all necessarily supposed to understand what all those those are things that we learn about in more detail in college and on the job and um and then get comfortable with and contribute to the success of that business as you as you learn more as you move forward uh here's another example um um that was uh in the past couple years actually Caitlin is still an animal Sciences student is finishing up in your senior years I believe um I spoke at the beginning about a feedlot boot camp program and Caitlin was a part of that um I believe it was last year and off the heels of that program she um I took an internship with Cobalt cattle um and they have a number of feedlots in the western part of the state and she was an intern at a feedlot um and so that very much involves animal nutrition it also involves Animal Health it also involves sales and marketing and all those kinds of things and so some examples of the things that she did that related to animal nutrition are here on the next couple of slides and so for part of her uh internship she spent time in the mill and so they have a feed mill at the feedlot um because you're constantly making feed to have that continuous supply of feed for uh thousands of cattle in that feedlot um at one time and so in the mill yeah these are all things that she would tell you herself that and and I certainly don't know to go in and do that you're not expected to go in and know how to do that stuff just coming out of a class or just coming into college but they teach you right you have some foundational knowledge you have things that you've learned about in classes you have a work ethic you express interest you ask questions and they learn and teach you how to apply that knowledge and walk you through these things as you have those experiences and then pretty soon you become an expert and can can help run these operations and so in the mill she sampled bead stuffs and so that might involve um regular sampling of maybe it's the corn maybe it's the supplement that's put in there I mean it's something like distillers grains and do they have the protein content that today that there um is the same as last week is the same as the next week it is that consistent enough so that we know that we're meeting the nutritional needs of those animals and that we're maximizing or be being able to optimize their average daily B efficiency and so in order to do that and to know those things you have to be able to sample and test and know whether or not those are consistent in the things that we care about such as protein content or energy content or mineral content um uh other you know keep an inventory of feed ingredients regular cleaning and maintenance um here on the bottom panel on the right hand side testing the the steam plate corn for moisture content and what's the quality of that flight that we're creating and and how we create that it does just look like corn flakes that you might uh eat for breakfast that's not the same thing but it's very it has some similarities um but they're creating those flakes to make that all the those good nutrients that those carbo that starch that's in that corn uh available more readily available to the animal to be digested and used for for growth and putting on muscle and so um those are some examples of responsibilities that she had she was actually in the feed trucks learning how to drive a feed truck and consistently and quickly deliver the feed um on the upper right hand corner you showed that highly techno technologically operated highly sophisticated um systems um in this case a computer system that's in the feed track that shows you the amount to feed that has to be very precise and where to deliver it to the right pin and the right amount at the right time um in order to run these businesses very very efficiently and effectively and so as you see on the left hand side and in some of this text read the amount of feed left in the box so that's what we call reading bunks and so reading books in order to understand what is the appropriate amount that we should be feeding on those cattle tomorrow um again to maximize their gain and their feed efficiency uh and so that we can we can alter simply produce beef in a inefficient Manner and in a high quality manner for our consumers um so made big calls so that's uh after reading the bunks seeing what's left in the bunks how are the cattle acting are they acting hungry um uh do we feed them a little bit more today or tomorrow than we've been today or are they acting like they're um maybe going off beat a little bit and should we should we pull back in the amount that we're feeding them and so but there's a real art to that and um understanding how to do that effectively um really takes a lot of a lot of time and patience and training to do that effectively and so those are just some examples there that's pretty common in the by industry um this is getting into the last couple slides here here's a couple of uh just a smattering of examples on on some other areas um on the left hand side this is Hector at Cargill turkey in Virginia Hector as a young man from the Kansas City area that came to animal Sciences hadn't had the opportunity really to have much food animal species but want to experience but wanted to learn and had an interest in just Animal Care and management and production and he took an advantage of an opportunity to work in uh in Turkey production again without experience um but the desire to learn and um and and did that is now working for Cardinal turkey full time um but certainly part of what he did involved involved nutritional management it also involved monitoring health and performance and uh understanding of disease and um Health Management again of turkeys as well as the nutritional components on the right hand side here were Seaboard Foods this is Jaden she was a farm operations intern at Seaborn Foods down in the uh down in Oklahoma she's actually from southwest Kansas and have a number of swine production operations in the state of Kansas and um seaborne Foods is one of them in that their headquarters are in Kansas City but uh and they have facilities in in Colorado and in Oklahoma and some in Kansas as well and she was a farm operations intern and so her role is involved nutritional management that was a finishing Pig operation that said or a facility that's right there behind her but she was involved in Nursery pain management in uh farrowing and um breeding the breeding sound management and so part of that involved nutritional care and management and all part of it involved all operations or all components of um caring for caring for pay um the bottom center is a a company called devanish that this was a couple years ago that Carly Stockton um uh worked at a former K-State uh animal Sciences student where they were particularly doing um uh swine nutrition research um and did some trials with um the proper proper ingredients and different mixtures of ingredients that would be more effective for nursery pigs and then also on the south side and so this demonish company you know they provide nutritional Solutions and Consulting and products um in the swine industry but and also some other species primarily in the dairy cattle as well for example and then in the upper top livestock Nutrition Center Countryside feeds or just a couple of others um livestock Nutrition Center has presence in Kansas also down into Oklahoma and Texas I believe Countryside feeds here in Kansas that are also involved in providing animal nutrition products and Consulting especially for livestock again across sheep and goats and beef cattle and dairy cattle and horses and um you know you name it um there's needs for people that have expertise and experience in these areas so uh I know that uh that uh is just a uh barely scratching the surface of the types of uh opportunities that exist within the animal nutrition area but hopefully that's giving you a little bit of insight again uh that when we're talking about um you know product uh research uh um product development sales and marketing and Consulting that spans across all different species any animal species that you can think of well there again that would be companion animals or food animals um those needs are there and the businesses and organizations that are involved in those um uh have all of those components in in some fashion and look to College of Agriculture animal Sciences students to help them um run their businesses and so um where there's businesses there's needs for excellent young professionals like yourselves to um to to work and to help them be successful um so happy to open up for any questions if you want to use that QR code you can follow K-State animal Sciences on social media and certainly reach out to us at any time if there's anything that we can help you with awesome thank you Dr Fike and it looks like we've got a question already in the chat um the Reese family is asking how can you find a nutritionist that deals with goats foreign I I could do some do some work in that realm uh so you know currently um um our our sheep and goat extension specialist position is um uh not filled in K-State animal Sciences but we do have faculty and staff on um here in animal sciences that either have some expertise themselves or have connections with within the industry and some of these companies for example um you know I know some of the folks at countryside beach or Wildcat beads that they sell those products and so who within those companies and organizations maybe has the greatest level of expertise that we can connect you with um and so if that's something that you would be okay with shooting me an email maybe I can more individually help connect you with somebody in your area um that can meet those particular needs and be glad to do that yes and I might insert there too that um this year's Junior producer days are going to be I believe swine and meat goat and so if you have not registered for for the meet goat Junior producer day at on campus at K-State it happens in March that's an excellent opportunity as well I know that there will be some rotations on nutrition and potentially some nutritionists with some feed companies available there as well um Jenny Borman asking what year in college do you have to be to get an internship yeah um excellent question and that uh I always hate getting this answer but it's true it depends um I would say generally most uh internship opportunities are kind of sophomore to senior year there are some of these especially on the production side where we're talking about you know maybe it's just learning more about the swine industry and the swine production operation where as a freshman and you can earn those internships and so it's not exclusively junior or senior um there's more and more opportunities that you could that can be had even after your after your freshman year um but generally speaking um probably a lot of them or at least sophomore and some of them exclusively Junior but like I said they're there's a lot of companies and organizations it's really about the right the right fit the right person at the right time but they do some of them do you know it just you just have a little bit more Foundation under you if you have a few more classes maybe to get the most out of it yourself and so so maybe after that freshman year you know you just learn a little bit more about a particular species and the production level and then maybe then the next year you'll be able to go work at a at a Cargill or a livestock Nutrition Center a Great Plains livestock consulting or something like that after you get a little bit more classes under your belt and I would encourage you guys too as well once you get into college and you're at K-State there are typically Career Fairs and uh I know for sure there's one that happens in the fall and even if you're just a freshman it's a great opportunity to visit those Career Fairs and visit with some of those employers find out what they're looking for and find out when they do offer internships and what on What internships they offer as well okay that's an excellent point Kelsey and that we work with those employers all the time and um there there are hundreds of them at the at the all University career for career fair in September and then there are more that aren't able to make it to the career fairs that share about their opportunities and for which you can apply or connect with them and even if they indicate that you know they want they're seeking for somebody that's a junior standing or graduating the next year or so they will remember you when you stop by as a freshman and express interest and make that connection and they love that and they remember who comes back multiple times because they see that as being truly interested and genuine and um pleasantly persistent and that's a good thing yes yes what other questions do you guys have for Dr Fike this evening we'll give you a few more minutes we're right at 7 38. I would just if there as you're thinking about that or if you have any other you know questions certainly um certainly reach out but I would just say that I hope you see this as um the future of in terms of opportunities uh in animal agriculture or just in general um is very bright and um I I that's part of why I love what I do uh is because there there's so many great businesses and organizations and leaders that are so enthused about young people like yourselves um and um the the there's just there's just so many opportunities and and they're looking to you folks and so the future is bright and you want to be a part of it just just know that it's it's there for the taking and so um you know just take those next steps to you know to going to college and get a little bit more education and continue to get those experiences and do the great things you're doing as part of 4-H um because those are those are important skills that you're developing and knowledge that you're developing by by doing what you're doing um in your time in in school yes absolutely well as we're waiting just a couple more minutes too to see if we've got any additional questions I will direct you back to the Kansas 4-H animal science webinar page uh the all of the previous webinars are recorded and listed there if you'll scroll down to the bottom of that page you'll see all of those topics uh we have covered one other career path so far and that is careers in animal reproduction and so if you're interested in looking at lots of different opportunities for careers in animal science and careers in agriculture that's another opportunity to look at some things oftentimes when we consider animal agriculture we think of being a veterinarian and we think of we don't often think of all of the opportunities that are available and so we want to make sure that we expose you to some different opportunities that maybe you're not thinking of and haven't been exposed to before we're going to go ahead and and begin to wrap up because I don't see any more questions coming in but as a reminder Dr fike's email address is there on the screen for you and you can also use that QR code to contact her with additional questions we will post the recording either tonight or first thing tomorrow morning and email that recording link out to each of you as well as the link for the survey to provide feedback so with that I'd like to thank Dr Fike once again for taking the time to share with us this evening and thank you all for joining us and we will see you next month all right thanks thank you