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Oh sorry about that so hopefully you are your being able to see the slides if not please write it in the comment okay so we are also we are also the source attempt Amulya partner with working their different solutions including simulations region such as their because i defecate that Tosca eyes like if we say that Oscar eyesight helps with doing optimization victory and also workflow automation every set is primarily for metal fatigue and it also has other models which with our metals also well fatigue Tosca is a nonlinear optimizer Kenya is more the can and also it can have some analysis capability del Nia is process manufacturing automation we provide both consultancy automation and customization services and also we provide training so which is an integral part of our offering and on the software side we are the source system similarly every sailor so if you have a new software needs not only just Amelia but also KTR del Villar 3d experience all the portfolio's for the source system we do provide those software services on technical capabilities one of the main areas of our our expertise is we do lot of component design so design by analysis validation is a situation fatigue and fracture mechanics we do crack propagation model and also we provide multi C with simulation capabilities with some structural computational fluid dynamics composite composite structures is also something we delve into quite a bit we do lot of structural analysis like as part of the plant engineering and Fe a model validation testing specifically for fitness for service and designed by now is capable TV this slide shows our capability around the fracture mechanics evaluation so we do both code based friends mechanics evaluation as well as Fe ABS modeling we also do them in mechanic's modeling we material testing support and also probably stick fracture mechanics so in general like any problems you are looking into it prop mystics and then we can we have the capability to do that it can be also like a benefit over doing a mediation and having an having a flaw that leads to an extreme so what is the economic impact of that we can do that simulation in protest expenses on our CFD capabilities we have we have pretty much all the news covered on the CFD so combustion for each structure interaction any vibration of pulsation problem heats transfer blastin introduction erosion corrosion and also capturing the chemical reaction our operational supports so we we do provide operational support through our partners so we do remaining life assessment level one and two analysis route for assessment in environment testing and in DVD management and risk assessment and also planned maintenance and operation so if you have any if you have any query let us know we'll reach out to our partner and provide you more details on those services for testing and enough radio analysis we do lot of facto graphic investing and lot of in-service material testing and also failure assessment because for us and then one has to do get to the material in one and one in tech notes so we we can bring all those aspects in our analysis and provide the assessment for the frame we have a we have a quite a big list of courses that we offer they can be invested in London as well as Somalia the student process so we do offer the API five seven nine courses and we are also coming up with a thing inside by analysis course these are more geared towards using FAA for you solving your problem six level three so introducing ffs so this is kind of an interactive triangle that shows that for for inform for a damage mechanism to occur you have to have the material and material properties that will probably lead into certain damage mechanism that environment the flow issue and sort of it and also the loading policy so if if all the all the trends this triangle is there the possibility that something may go wrong so if then we can look into whether we need to change the material or maybe the operating condition or the loading by changing the design modifying distinct design so in Fitness or service always we look at the problem from all the access not not just the loading or just the material provision aspect of it FSS is the ability to demonstrate the structural interview before an in service component containing a flaw it can be a crack lights or not cracked like cloth it provides a quantitative analysis and address the imperfection and equipment reputation or in service degredation and it helps make informed decision based based on filling phase amounts in numerical techniques and also looking into all the can ISM that is going on so it's a multi disciplinary approach that one can ask for is for service there are key references that are being used so listed some of them so if they are 5 7 9 vs 7 9 1 0 is any section a and B 31.3 section 2 and section 8 as well so now talking about the levels of assessment so we will mostly for our current presentation be mostly focusing on level three assessment so level three assessment procedure includes intended to provide more detailed evaluation which is of course if you go you have to go beyond the level two requirement and then it's a lot of information you need to do a level three assessment and also the analysis itself becomes complex but with that you are capturing more and more physics more and more unknowns are now known because you have more information about the equipment loading condition material all the design aspects and in service conditions so it gives you it gives you a better idea of what what can go or how is they could match is operable in the future it generally requires specialist fitness for service engineers and so we do provide that we have that background both from the software side as well as the code and industry applications now generally there are four failure modes that one will look into which is plastic velocity more of a global collapse and then local failure collapse from buckling and failure and a cyclic load so we follow the API 579 guidelines for those announces these are some of the examples for level 3 assessment so in the first one [Music] we are looking into your plans bus loaded assessment applies with ID flow so there there is a loss of thickness in the ID and with that we bring that loss of thickness in our fear model and missing the homes and boundary condition we analyze whether it satisfies the criteria mentioned with the previous slide so then we can also do limit load analysis or buckling now so these are programming some of the structures are vessels so I just have some pictures for that but it can be applicable more on that so if you have a more of a crap light flow we can do a fracture mechanics based assessment so there are two kinds of assessment we can do one is actually model modeling the flaw itself in the FAA so that we get the traffic intensity parameters and using that with the material based properly synthetic material k1c you know or what we can do is we can model the geometry details and get the stress distribution or angle location of the crack and if the practice of standard shape and then we can use standard formulas in that so instead of doing Fe a we can in more huge like closed form solutions that are available in many references and then look at the practical intensity parameter from the stresses that we evaluate from that fear we can also do Provost a fracture assessment so the basic idea in I will start with the initial fall and these are all done in a probabilistic setting so then there will be a there will be a fracture mechanics based model which would grow the flow and there will be uncertainty for crack growth firms even the initial flaw will come from a proper state distribution now there will be certain detection probability and if the flow is selected it will be taken out and service will be continued so in that way the final probability of failure can be assessed in terms of all these four basic parameters we also do leak before break assessment which is basically looking into the leakage through a flow so through an opening through the wall and one of the one of the the challenging aspect in that is in presence of residual stress vo crack opening has to be between my properly so there there are guidances and Sanders available to fund that but also you can do the residual stress simulation and look at how the crack opening will be and based on that you can take and do a thermal Aguila you can do a Dalek model to find out what is that leakage to the track one of the thing you have to satisfy for leak before bed assessment is there is an active legalization mechanism for known so the flow is going more in it through thickness manner than circumferential manner so we can do all those nights as I mentioned before one of the major one of the major tasks for a pipeline pipeline structure is because they are enjoying through wells so welding process simulation can become very important to look into the integrity of your pipeline so I have some slides which talks details about the welding process simulation capability via we use a bogus phone that is also a plug-in available to do this and they can always modify plug-in to yours II it uses realistic thermal boundary condition to solve for accurate temperature profile in the vent and simulate the burning process and this is your stress in use evening inter mechanical model so the plug-in that's available is abacus welding interface so you can define your geometry or you can define your wear path the beep size and also the welding parameters and it will do the thermal simulation and then the stress is because of the temperature difference it will cover distress so generally the there is a continuum there is a complete workflow available so you can add material so elements are activated progressively and then each input we use the coordinating model and then for cooling consider a film and radiation condition and for post-processing we can look into the default frame the video set and also do the parametric study with the weld parameters and with all the running parameter 7 service and that includes the beep side and also the the speed of the torch and energy input so what we'll gain out of this is once we do the residual stress simulation then we can do it failure assessment using the residual strength and using some sort of it can be probably say go do a full figure for this vignette or maybe - ok and design space simulation very difference in our goals what-if scenarios and to make a more informed decision on Anya welding parameters or if you already have it set welding parameters that you have used for you when for building process and we can simulate that and see what more in the final zero says that the septum is subjected to and using that residual stress field then we will do further with crap or without a canary these are all the examples we have so on on the left in is we have five two pipe run simulation so we listen useful this was useful well bit sensitivity study and then you can have in physics in Reverse simulation from the temperature distribution you can look into the hoop stress and also the distortion phase transformation because of the phase transformation the module properties will change so you only can look into the faces of physical controls like for life for most a night by night and so using the wind simulation you can look into the hardness of your material close to the weld and the heat affected zone and then from that you can make decisions on all the controls on emissions as I briefly mentioned about before we do provide automation workflow automation and also software development services catering to your specific needs these are so these are available with the sword so you can you can always download freely available so this plug-in tool creates automatically two material properties for use without translating model and this is based on the API five seven nine code recommendation so you get the code based method minimum material properties and it will draw the stress-strain curve for this is a thickness mapping tool so if you have scanned data where generally it's like a spreadsheet form so it has a breed and the thickness and you can bring it into a if you should make a shell model the country in the map you can map your major thickness to the shell model with each element we assigned this signal based on the thickness at the bridge location so this process takes a lot of time so through this come in this is this this again you can shorten the amount of time Monash what you are spending on for fracture mechanics plug-in so we this is developed for pipeline virtual simulation and this takes all the information about the cram the visual property I the boundary condition and there are certain controls you can have on truck and you on the mesh and based on that it'll if we create them on we will put the focus crafting measure on the crack and this is using the conventional network so then now it will submit for analysis and get attractive images from the output and a free particle compared with the material that's now going into the case studies I will discuss some of the problems that that relates to what we have discussed before as capabilities one other thing I want to mention first so we do have the optimization capabilities so using eye size or software s we can help with optimizing your optimizing your objective function for your design and it basically creates a workflow with many different application software it can be in-house or a standard commercial software and then it I said has the optimization algorithm as well so you can do both each other massive optimization reliability based optimization and any script anything that different run from your cookie dough in the a three point and and also the the software has to be access to the intend to modify the input so if that can happen then you can use I type to run to create the work front on an optimization problem so for this particular example there was a piping system that was analyzed with with the bound with support conditions to minimize minimize vibration and it has shown significant cost savings on the customs so this is an example of at a mechanical stress in using a pipe bending analysis so we have done a thermal mechanical analysis of being bent and because of the pending simulation the thickness was non-uniform so we have captured the fitness because confirmed with that so and and also for every model we do we do try to validate the test a physical data available if not then we do some 17 tests from based on solid mechanics principle fno to make sure our model basically make sense so validation this model was validated because they already had some cases where they have they have made fight through that process and they can measure the thickness and you using the afternoon validated using the validated morning then we can give what different motive scenarios you see how we can modify the process to get a more reform sickness this was ghastly for either to be intuitive or coercion what's going on and so on an apology was for me so we have we have the use that we have rode our sub routine based on high five seven nine so there is increase approving of mmm now because we are modified it to suit the requirements for a PA five seven nine and then we have them create assessment and compare downward approach that is permitted this is an example where we have done a level three assessment for local eating area so add the support conditions the right the pipeline was getting crowded but overall this was I mean this had it I mean we had to consider a globally pipeline piping system because of the thermal expansion the loads we have to capture the boundary conditions even away from the local attend area that's why what we have done is enough combined 3d and 2d my model so along the local intent area we have done a food 3d model but away from that we have these five elements to e-type elements to model the thermal expansion and this is one of the ways where we can use as detailed as may be needed for analysis so we always look at ways how we can how we can not overly complicate the model but also at the same time bring in enough enough complexity in the model so that we can capture the right behavior that is going on the right fit that is going on ever a of the interest this is a case study for dent which we darling so these are very general pictures that I am showing so because some of this our project so we have made some general files out of that but it will show you the basic idea what we are solving simulation of fail simulation so we perform the simulation of getting denting and removal of the constant org object and then we there is a rebounding effect and then we measure the equivalent plastic strain to determine there is the possibility of cracking now so what we can do is we can look at the size of the regattas shape and size of the Class A B zone and it will give you an idea about how big or small it is and whether it can be offered so this analysis was done for prorated pipe with an outer dent so we basically leaked the geometry within the pipe on the dent and then we look into look into the pressure this will this PD will be maintained and also pipe with an external then the actual venting process was simulated in this one and and generally will have filled it available so you can always validate the model with the field data and if not then you have to if the validations since the numbers are not matching up then you have to look into the model maybe some of the material properties are not properly known on the condition with which anything happened so you can always parameterize your model and use that to match the match the actual physical data and then we then validate and model we can go ahead and do the water signals this is an example of a material gouging with which becomes second or local metal loss so again this is more about putting the geometry into into the model and as you can see the mesh close to the gouge area is very fine because this any of interest so we need to capture the stresses and strains properly in that location and then based on once once we have that in the model that will with the loading and check for classic collapse and local fail this was a Gao interaction study because the concern was whether the boundary close enough so that they are if they are interacting or not so we wanted to see if the stress is stress medium the overlapping and sort of done a parametric study or how close they can be without overlapping stresses on each other so that we can combine some of the gouges so this one what we what we have done is based on this analysis we were able to provide the client with information about how whether they will need to combine two gouges which are close enough so we have given been a qualitative criteria for that this is an example of an axial flow in a pipe so basically you have to put the practice there and have a focused mesh and then around the model with the applied loads and boundary condition to get practical intensity parameters fracture toughness so there's more more information on the same model this was in pitting corrosion studies over Fe this is known for pitting corrosion was made so we considered the pit booth as flaw and also the stress concentrate and concentrated so and how many do that for Billy so devastated vehicles and using the stress concentration factor so we did an implement acting mechanics based evaluation considering pit as as a flaw and also we have done a can we took the stress concentration factor and then we have a strength check based on the stress concentration factor this is this was done for an indentation or for analyses where because of the indentation it was a it was a cool temperature scenario valid concern was that cracking intensity parameter will be close to the material fracture toughness so what we have done in imitation process get a plastic thick plastic zone and then based on the plastic zone these are all non-standard crack shape so this if you can see the pictures here they they are not electrical or they are not elliptical form so we have actually taken the area that's coming out of the plastic zone and use that as a flaw in the model and model reducing traffic focused element and then we got the stressing and this was done we can weed out the residual stresses to see the in fact oversee those stresses on the fracture problem this was for example for a pipe lamination so we used the seal basically and define a surface as seeing then have then the years if a software creates two nodes and both in geometry point and under tensile load that P nodes can suffer so we have done some lamination college this is an example for a artist and ductile iron pipe design so where we have there is there was data available there was data available for small diameter pipe diameter pipe there was no tested available so we have value in our model for the small diameter pipe and using FAA and compare it with the test data once the model is the model what role is validated then we use the similar approach from the last data pipe and come up with the spring stiffnesses for for the joint so we have equivalent joint stiffness values from the Fe and then we have done a 2d pipe element model we were analyzed and using those joint stiffness as they are recognized it to see how the pipeline will cave if it is that a fault rotation these are some of the examples where we will look into Pipestone interaction as with your pipeline there is always there can be debris flows on Mars slide on so this is a high knowledge deformation problem so we have used coupled orderly in the transient formation to look at the different impact on the pipeline from the deaddrop so now another possibility will be fewer 1/4 bridges own there can be tall settlement and all so we can simulate the thermal and chemical interaction between boy pipe and permafrost and consecrate the differential settlement and by definition from the permafrost join point at the soil formation transition so what we have done is in this model we bring in the thermal simulation so that we know what what how the pipe is deforming and based on that the function we generate stresses and strains then we look into that for further information this is an example for a hostage simulation so five strain was evaluated using a pipe soil interaction model so we have we have done we have modeled the pipe soil interaction in terms of equivalent Springs and we look into with the frosty what's gonna be the stresses and strains in the pipe structure now most of all the previous examples it was more on the video to feel either a solid model in a structural model or a soil structure interaction now we are talking about more of a fluid structure interaction so these are case studies from combining IPA and CLP or just doing a CFD simulation now this is an example for a multi-phase flow in CFD multi-phase this shows in a jumper but you can think of it as any pipe line with tens or or a TP connection and all this so we look into the free surface and obviously term is flow from these turbulent priest of the interaction and some of the things we look at is transport efficiency ball attraction the pressure fluctuation and of course the stresses and strains you work if you are doing a free switch interaction problem these are examples of pipe flow induction induced motion assessment so here again the idea is to that your your fluid motion is you're free from the pressure from your fluid is changing your structure the years and then because of your structural geometry is changing then it also affects affect affect the fluid flow so this has been done using a interaction model and some of the things we can capture is flowing use turbulence flow in these pulsation showing this vibration these are corrosion assessment examples where basically one of the one of the major thing about corrosion is about the velocity and the impact angle so that you look at the moment of transfer and based on that there are formulas available where we can even relate your emulator impact velocity and all with sudden frozen material data which lists to the corrosion now this is a better this is more of a simulation based way to look into the corrosion because eternal it is how corrosion is related to with your fluid flow field so the idea was to similar than fluid flow field and then use use the kind of standards available that relates with your corrosion rate with with your given fluid flow field and to find out the final corrosion so this gives a better insight into the problem that you're looking at so if you are trying to do the numbers may not be exactly accurate but if I look at different parameter sensitivity on what changes in your design or changes in operating condition and make so that you get a desirable I so this is again an example for corrosion analysis so CFD simulation for pipeline show assisted corrosion due to the effect of carbon dioxide was evaluated in this and and again validation in the key foreign members problems and and I've said before so they may not get the exact number that you might find in an actual scenario this gives a very good idea about how how the parameters for the effect of changing the front phase are only a problem of interest so it gives a very good insight into the problem you that pretty much concludes all all my case studies and then I'll open it up for discussion I kind of finished maybe 5-10 minutes early so we have more time to talk about if you have any question so do let me know I'll open up the session for Q&A you you okay we are taking questions now and we're all ready we already have a couple questions okay what is yeah I can okay so the first question is what is probably technologists and how it differs from sensitivity sensitivity and partial safety factor methods okay so in probably second homicidio your input server end up I mean some of the inputs are random I guess you can always make somewhere more than define the well-known so using the random input opposite your inputs at random it goes through a sort of big mapping process and then you your outputs event assuming probably sticking on so you include the input and output from that random so your output too concerned up for sensitivity is study it's basically you change you see how what is the contribution of the parameter to the car so it doesn't capture the inherent randomness of the problem but it says okay these are the mean so if you have it stay by between a look at who's just so clear by team why so you can see right now that prnt are the main current changer oops just maybe there is some barbaric and that may not have much it like if some break-ins so sensitivity gives you an idea what are the important purpose Marshall phase safety factor it does include some sort of statistical basis in it so instead of doing a process you can obviously can use partial they together so we have worked on some examples where there the Kuhn recommended partial detector but if you usually use that partial safety factor that thing so the idea was to now we'll do the problem looking at the actual random and probabilistic setting and then we'll calculate sort of the partial safety factor based on and we have found that the partial safety factors are given in the code we can in the door value or partial how about post well so I'm going to the next question however most will be treatment temperature answers yes we can we haven't included any example for that but we can always do as I said we can't thermal mechanical problems of for heat treatment temperature novices can knowledge yeah so how to check material property of materials dealing the post weld heat treatment temperatures so since it's in the building simulation we have seen that we agree come in this face conformation algorithm so you can use the same algorithm for your post you'll need it when temperature bounces and based on the temperature it gives gives you the material properties and is going the hardness and off which of course is not given a given when okay another question is when there are so many laminations and different claims and overlapping help you gather the data for that it is extremely hard to visualize inside all an animation with any technique including phaser so from simulation side what we can do and both gives you guidance so if you have any damage so there's not just true for lamination again for any damage and the one case we talked about the audience whether they're closed or not so that kind of gives you an idea so if they are interacting so what you can do either you model all the interactions but even as you said currently even to get that in sideways inspection data is extremely difficult so if you see there are there are things that are closely spaced and if you can find out sort of some of the information how far oppose there and the code gives a guidance all you can conservatively take things to be like combined together so if you are if you are finding or any lamination semis and the big lamination hands-on and put that in the model you okay so let me take there are some more questions is abacus assisting toll-free for everyone how to get the plug oh yeah so the abacus assist money so one of the commonly shown is developed by our a my bias and the other you will improve some information maybe so but there is if you go to their knowledge based community so these are available for free so you can download the plugins that I think developed by a press ok from there so there there is no constant abacus building simulation I will double-check but I think right now it's a paid version but the older version is B to download I will also include that information in our slides yes so I know there are provisions in a graphite reminded root lamination and concealer them has one Singapore yes and I think in any terms of measuring data it we do not know something then you have to achieve the watch this you so how we calculated your stress for his service equipment so I mean from a simulation why's the calculation on the zero stress for in-service equipment as long as you are capturing the thermo mechanical properties then it will denounce it will show your support stress you yes so element quality check you have to be careful about the element that you are using so abacus elements they have already been verified to be accurate so if you will expect the behavior that abacus said okay this element can capture save displacements but not rotation so those are already big very quite their element test being done so now they do test with your elements but for your application then you have to you have to make sure that your elements of good quality one of the thing is giving validation this may come up and also some standard knowledge in big FES like generally for in the interest we use you don't lie triangular fashion were you able to perform that data's more I like to build a model in abacus yes and we will be able to do that how crack lights on is more so any crack black draw on the racial model is you know the use that seems so crack is basically in a continuum there will be two surfaces then that's now can open up when and the practice then I'm just talking about not getting into the details of it is the linear elastic fracture mechanics Oh linear velocity tangent function is that your stress will go to infinity at the crack-tip so there is a special element formulation basically that are made so known of the element two quarter point and then you have to have those elements which will then capture this behavior so one thing you have to do is you have to put a focus mesh it looks like a spider wave I have that example in one of the problems you can see the mesh as a particular shape around the crack-tip so you model the practice to see and then define that practice crack with mesh and has the if the elements you have to move the quarter point that we have among the midpoint to put a point for the villain then you will be able to capture that yes there's a few more questions coming in yes we have a question that asks how do you deal with emergency situation if we require a very quick analysis how short can your turnaround time being yeah we do understand that sometimes you have to be you have to probably get the get an answer or a workable solution right away now one of the ways we do it is of course if we quickly get into the meeting and look at your problems and have the discussion with your team and then we go in steps so we sharpen the pencil as is needed so first we may quickly do some very simplified problem and if it passes all the requirements and you are fine it's not then we bring in complexity and all so depending depending on the week we can to answer your question then we can get into your problem immediately we have we have done this drill many many times and we are we are used to that we know your urgency and we our team is equipped as well an experience to handle that situation and generally what we do in this kind of situation also we give our give our assessment results in a PowerPoint format so that you can go ahead with your decision-making process but later on we write a detailed report with explaining everything what we have done to call us so we will be reporting is done in this two-step process you so follow-up question to that is can you articulate on the content of the report what can a client expect to get yeah so in terms of content of the report content of the report we our reports are pretty detailed so we put all the assumptions all the methodology how we build up the model and all and then if you require we can also give you the input for mix all the simulation primes and all for your reference so our little people generally have very very detailed explanation on what we have done what it could we have taken what are the national rationale against doing some modeling aspects is there anything okay how do I about this provide results stress in category as defined in these I mean division - okay so the stress category is habitus dozen so if you if you are talking about the stress category is given in the code so abacus is the general for the software so you have to kind of follow the code guidance to understand the stress categories of primary and secondary stresses on oh so abacus in general doesn't classify those stresses and another portion yes can we get this recording yes we will share the recording will share the presentation file and we will be more than happy to have a discussion after this to one of our fe e or CFD experts and if you have any question you can discuss offline as well what allowable stress do you consider while analyzing equipment during post weld heat treatment now allowable stresses there is as far as I am aware so if there is no specific out that all stresses for most religiously but it depends on the problem that you are looking at so if you are looking at a fracture problem and you are concerned about the post weld heat treatment issues then you get the stress field and then you have to look at a video I mean generally there is no separate allowable forum post relatedness I feel you have to look at the strength checks and all as motive available is given for that situation okay so I think yeah Thank You looks like good amount of interest and I have got many questions from you guys so thank you again for attending the webinar and we'll we'll also have other webinars will let you guys know which form generally we send out emails and also know LinkedIn say we can follow our company on the link and get on decks and we also go to many conferences such as pressure was finding conference and others so if you are interested we can meet there and have a discussion with you and we are always open to talk with you about any come and see what does to take out the time I'm still waiting if there is some more question comes in and then we conclude the webinar and hear the presentation file as well as recording with all and please feel free to share inside your company or in any running dogs whom who might have an interest in the stock so I'll just keep myself silent and wait for us there is any more questions out there you there's another question for your level 3 dent analysis do you typically always do a ratcheting analysis how is this different than elastic plastic analysis so for resting analysis yes there is during the criteria based on that you will probably have to perform ratcheting or not so there is there is a filtering criteria and then the weight will be different is you have to use the kinematic hardening and then you run couple of cycles and see if your basically the idea and if you see where displacement is increasing or it stabilizes so depending depending on the filtering can do the logical analysis and this is common for for any kind of damage you yes we have done flow induced vibration and heat exchanger we actually recently worked on the problem of that manner yeah can you analyze a little heat exchanger with the heat transfer analysis out I need to check that with our save the expert but I think we can let me let me see if I can see we voted you yeah I'll have our cfd exponential discussion and he has his name is Murphy and yet he has previously working period of cause he has a lot of experience with the software as well as you know like his PhD was on CFD topics the answer this the last ocean cynical heat exchanger heat transfer analysis through CFD husband I just wanna if it is possible but can you explain more on the like you know what like what challenges are you seeing to model using CFD maybe we can share our contact information so we can have an online chat to understand what you are looking you you okay I think we have okay one more question smokes yeah thank you thank you you yeah I think we will probably conclude the webinar and again thanks for attending and thanks for your time I hope it was useful and have a future conversation with all you need and if you feel free to ask us any question that mean if you have anything you are dealing with we'll be more than happy to discuss it's always always interesting to know well how how we can help each other and also maybe it gives us a very good experiences so please feel free to contact us if you have any anything you want is constant and if you have any further question I guess there's no more questions coming and I'll double check one more time yeah and then we'll we'll stop the webinar here and we'll share the recording and the presentation and please follow us on LinkedIn if you will share that information as well so then we will get 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