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when clients approach you guys are you the one that's coming up with the ideas for things like that and then like implementing them or how does that look from start to end like if somebody comes in like hey we have a product and we want a really cool way of showcasing it to an audience how does that look well in the agency world it's all a big team so like we get an RFP which is a request for proposal and so glad you explained that thank you yeah so like a large company will kind of put out an an RFP and a bunch of agencies will respond to it and in the RFP the request will be like we're building this thing and sometimes they're very cagey about like what the specifics and they're like please pitch us your cost and your approach and so then we as an agency put together a team of strategist data analysts if we need to designers and maybe some tech people like me to kind of put together a pitch and then we send a smaller pitch team to the actual client to then pitch the idea and if we win that then we kind of switch gears and start building out the tech team the design team and like how it actually build the product that's awesome how uh how long does a normal project last it really depends on the scale of the project but anything that involves like a techno like a tech build it's probably gonna be at least six months to a year to build out like an actual product in companies get in touch with you that far in advance yeah that's awesome