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[Music] welcome to Oregon voters digest the program that brings forward the social and political issues that are important to people living here in the Pacific Northwest and now your host Bruce Broussard welcome again this segment of the organ voters digest I'm Bruce verse art and as you can see we're all rushing all over the place just got through looking at a lot of new stuff I mean the big thing was the whole issue with the Supreme Court's election that's that's that's done if you will but in all due respect we'll probably do something on that in regards to its impact on Oregon and we'll do that at another point in time but this particular case this point in time here now we want to make sure we cover some of our own elections situation that we have here in the state of Oregon and so we're gonna be doing things on the measures and we're gonna be doing things on the candidates maybe whether we if we get the candidates here if we don't get the candidates here we're gonna talk to them about whether it be there whether the person running for Congress and whether the person running for the governorship with this debt in the other well you know what we're gonna do what we have to do and it's very very important and in fact I'm gonna start off this particular show with some folks and some folks that I have known and and we just recently got off the campaign trail and that's Maria right here who sits right on my right and on your left on the screen and and then and then her dear friend another friend of mine who was on here last week and he did such a good job we thought he'd bring it back because we did the culture about we talked about culture as it relates to Mexicans you know it was just Mexicans and I thought that was a good show hopefully you've enjoyed it if you haven't if you haven't just go back to the archives under YouTube and you can get it yet you can look at that particular show but this particular show what we're gonna do we're gonna talk about ballot measure 105 105 and then basically what it says the 5 million will read this repeals law limiting use of state or local law enforcement resources turn was federal immigration laws now that two issues in there they're okay the results of a yes vote repeals long limiting with exceptions use of state or local law enforcement resources for detecting or apprehending persons suspected only of violating federal immigration laws a human you heard of the ISIS situation whatever the link it back in the death and then the result of our no vote retains law limiting with exceptions use of state our law enforcement resources for detecting or apprehending persons suspected only of violating federal immigration laws okay and there was a poll that was taken by the Hoffman research group it says if the general election were held today we would you vote to yes vote to support the measure or no to opposed about measure and the way the results were 31% says yes support measure fifty percent said no opposes measure 19 percent undecided option not given initially okay and when considering your political views would you say you aligned more as a conservative the moderate are a liberal they're a taper to 32% conservative 33 percent moderate 31% numeral four percent undecided option not given initially and again we want to talk to this issue because the largest city in the state of Oregon is here important and the largest county happens to be here also in the Portland area and I always looked at it as if this is the living room if you will of the state of Oregon other individuals coming here and we are definitely at their very society here we got many many issues and I might add to that many politicians don't like to identify with this area they don't they want to come over there and I don't know they they tend not that you want to get interviewed by myself but but the fact that is if they if there's anything to say about this particular measure it really has an impact here in the Portland metropolitan area and that's why I've got Maria here she just recently ran for for County District number two Multnomah County and when you start thinking about district number two in Multnomah County the city of Portland the city the city of Portland is is written all due respect of the city important that is in district number two more like district number two and so I thought that was a very interesting piece so that's why I've got the real here and then I've got another individual sitting here because maybe respond and we will call him a guess and he can respond in terms of how he feels and we just got another guest in the in the house one mother dear friend my my poor that's my point that's my poor guy it's the boy he's he's gonna probably make some points about that / - I want I didn't bring his book with me but he may have his book with him yeah we might want to share that with a - also - but you know just bit can we get it can we get another chair up here can we can we do that Mike is that okay with you can we get another chair okay come on bring me a chair this is community television come on you want you want everybody want to get him on that again get him on this end get away yeah how you wish which end you wanted Mike over here oh when they sat in on this at the end okay good good good good okay good I don't wanna get close to him that way okay you might you might have recognized them if you haven't you know sit go to go to the archives of the of YouTube organ builders digest and you see this gentleman you look at well thank you out there right now I'm getting right in that winner's aspect there but again like I said what we're gonna be talking about is it's 1:05 it's gonna be talking about 105 and you know do you respected the culture that's impacted quite a bit it should be should be able to talk about this issue and that's why I've invited these folks here that are sitting around here and this is gonna be their time so in others because I was told Maria that she's gonna be she's gonna be doing she's gonna be sitting in this seat here in future so so I've said my part so I'm just gonna kind of give it over to her and then she went through you to guess and she's gonna talk about this issue and then we'll have that discussion and every so often I'll inject ok Maria Garcia I'm a local business owner I run for Miami County Commissioner district 2 last year this is right and I am a community advocate so I invited people really close to me and have it involved in this issue because we are immigrants and our voice matter and I would like us as a community to to start having these conversations about the importance of immigrants especially here important because it's where we live right I have a manual set up a polka and Eduardo Khurana as my guest so let's start talking about measure 105 right but before that I would like to start talking about the bracero program because that was a 22 years long program right and it contracted about 5 million braceros in the 24 states of the of this country right so after the bracero program ended we see these new waves of immigration coming to this country right finding new route ways to work the increase of coyotes or smugglers start pretty much around the time I mean that had always existed but knowing the numbers that we see it now and that was because the the bracero was giving these illegal permit right for to satisfy the shortage of agricultural workers in the United States so under this program they the braceros supposed to get a benefit of a decent living wage right they supposed to have a safe places of work saved roof over their head you know all the benefits the word told them that they will get reality is that it didn't go that well right so they start coming more more immigrants are coming to this country after the bracero program ended but then you know we can start talking about the importance of immigrants coming at least as Mexicans is how we can talk about this right because obviously our heart is there our families are there but we are here so can you tell us a little bit more about after you know the bracero program how do we end up here yeah well how we we all end here yeah and you talked a very dramatic very important point people were here because was needed so there is a market a labor market open for people is this market is not provided mm-hmm is not satisfied by the government programs so what's happening when the bracero program ended the the business owners need workforce not available because the government is not facilitating is not facilitating the economic development the economic activity or the labor activity so what happened whoa still they're hiring people and the people knows because we are talking with our people in Mexico where our families in it you know why you can come and you're gonna be high right away papers who cares mm-hmm and that's why so government is not working as a facilitator for this activity for the neighbor it's not providing enough flavors to the to the to the label market that's number one thing and that's why we are here if there is the works of the jobs are in Australia I bet you we are in Australia and that's happening now the immigrants Latino immigrants are in Australia there are new salon they are in Spain because the the world market is there the job market there's the first thing we have needed here because we're working now the immigrant the economy is providing to the to the organ estate immigrant with permits to stay here Oh without permits stay here but all of us as a group are providing a billion dollars in purchase power to the to the state for here Oregon okay okay in Oregon and the Oregon budget is twenty two billion dollars so one-third of the organs they kind of miss Modbury immigrants what happened when the these lofts is going to happen usually the people have a driver's license here without a Social Security so people come here freely and get a driver license and when other states get tougher laws on that people start to come here when here was canceled people who start to fly to Texas California now they're coming back to California and to Washington and they're they're providing now the labor force down there those estates what's gonna happen if Santori law is gonna be cancelled here and in in the state wall police is gonna distract the resources to prosecute people workers they're criminalizing workers they're criminalizing workers they're criminalizing work job and that's happening in a in Europe same thing with the African communities the the new capitalism or the new liberalism is punishing workers for work and the police is gonna is gonna just pursue people trying to give better for their families and for the community and one third of the economy in America because in one in one immigrant house you can have a citizen you can have legal program name green card holder yet they're permanent and you can have also people with temporary visa and without visas so in just one family you can see all those cases so if you crush one of these people you're crushing the whole family and what we are trying to do is to have our families together as any other community so what's happening with the 105 105 for me from my perspective as an immigrant generating business in economy in jobs this crushin when one community productive and thriving community and criminalizing the work there is a lot of other things to do what about a gun control is a lot more people killed by the guns in the in the hands of responsible or probably sick people then then then then one person just working and and I don't know cleaning houses cleaning 75 car houses a week let me let me ng couple cars company to example and I remember in that in Oregon Rocky Barilla was was was a legislature in fact that's how he became a legislator as a result of this issue but when it was when it was brought to the table in the legislature in 1977 meaning the farmers were having problems in the standpoint of picking up their crop and so the name of the game is in okay so will the percerin and and sure there's was very much involved too in that particular tank that knew when it was in the newspaper business and he basically was kind of like looking at the housing situation and and the making sure that they were getting paid responsibly what they're working with the unions but that was one aspect of it but but what I noticed at that time the farmers were saying we wanna that the issue came up and the farms were saying well look we want to keep these folks here and so then rocket got involved in the end the issue and then I'm just want quickly I mean but you can look this up as far as the history of the deal and then what happened was that when rocky got involved the idea that because they were Mexicans and whatever in that whole transition he got elected to the legislature and they came up with some rules and some regs ie to keep the labor force hit and what's interesting about it is that only two people voted against it in the legislature and you know but my point is this whole issue of immigration and in the gala and all that other good stuff was there but it was kind of like that passed this through the legislature they did pass it through the legislature and then all of a sudden now here we are today I mean been up during office I'm some 30 some odd years right let me get about 30 years or so yeah there's been around you for quite some time so but the barbs in 77 77 but the idea is that it's been here that long and now said it is an issue but I believe it has always been an issue profiling separation of families abuse in general towards the immigrant communities has always been an issue that is recognized now it's a different you know topic but I believe that it is important to continue having the sanctuary status in paper right because if there's a removal of the status of this and status pretty much is going to be a legal permission right for profiling right for more deportations because legally it will be accepted it is happening you know in spite of in a sanctuary state we still have the protections we have police working with immigration Sheriff working with immigration I know that because we know our people and we know the stories so it is happening right so the way I see it and correct me if I'm wrong is that if this measure passes it will be just a legal of the recession for profiling in you know deportation yeah actually you say that when when Wendy's this bill becomes a law and came along it was because of profiling of the sheriff in Independence they were they were profiling a Mexican American people and that's why they were complaining and that's become a allow a century state for having the police getting the in the world keep doing the job keep protecting the communities keep pursuing the crime but the the workers are not criminals and you know the talking about the police department they have so many issues you know to deal with you know all the killing of you know our Juice brothers you know no recently they kill you know black men downtown they have a lot of issues within their own body right and to take more you know an overload of work you know with the topic that really you know an encouragement to profile the man stop me just because of my color I'll tell you what we got a cliff and one point is it the divide in law enforcement we got law enforcement at our for 105 and ones going for said basically the same let's just keep let's keep the keep the the sanctuary status the way it is I got a clip Mike can you play that clip real quick like this is an important is this people here within the Multnomah County area aspect of it and we don't play that kid Trust is the foundation and allows public safety professionals like our police officers and our deputy sheriff's keep our communities please measure 105 undermines our ability to keep our communities safe discouraging people from calling the police for this day of crime discouraging people from being witnesses we want to live in a community where victims of crime feel comfortable in reaching out to us if measure 105 passes it would dramatically interfere with our ability to our job current law helps create bright lines for local law enforcement communities that we serve know that we're focused on rotecting and serving them who are not worried about their immigration issues it will only take resources away from Public Safety what do we stand for as a community what do we stand for as citizens of the state of Oregon it's not justice for some it's justice for all it doesn't reflect the values that we have as local law enforcement Public Safety professionals or as argonians [Music] that's funny I just know you don't want to I just wanted to share that piece yeah it's a very interesting piece because I mean from from the folks were just looking the the issue is between the federal government and in the state and then these are folks that are that are saying responding to that particular issue but you know what Bruce just funny about we decided slip and such and this is not uh first of all when we talk about no measure 105mm it wasn't given to this because people felt pity like oh you know but feel bad for these good people you just give it to them you know they didn't do it like always an offended benefit and they did it because people are actually fighting the cancer you're putting their foot down this is what we want and we're no longer gonna take it no more that's what people are pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing to get that done that's when this became the law as many things today and stuff before pushing and pushing and pushing to make it a lot now when I say it was made a law in this history and such right and they say history was makes a future but again we cannot compare today's issues with 30 40 40 30 40 years ago because it's the same problem but it today's problems are you're more modern more different factors more variables and such and so at a point we can't be just like oh please go back but there's so many things are brand new it was to be never was never their technology was never there okay this today and such finding all information about somebody is like it's only wasn't there like it is today when I say when my daughter was talking about you know making us become the people measure 105 so again for people workers and such and I don't say this as a stated like a civilian here but I say this is a person that works in the construction industry in this out there in the field and you out in South there that in our own businesses or know people that own businesses you can ask them or ask yourself who are you going to hire make better productions and not just Mexicans in general its immigrants and people say for you know for jokes and funds like Alma hire some immigrants to do a faster and cheaper but realities that they know what's going on in search they'll do it better faster that's a reality and such when it comes to other people I'm not trying to swear that all my men are lazy cuts or not I mean I'm not here to judge nobody in stuff I know real ones that you know go harder than me and such and I look up to them but not being a construction worker stuff I work where they always do making buildings and I see all this building since you know people say just do just work and do and don't ask any questions but all these buildings are being made for who for people that are coming from overseas other states immigrants that are working here right I work with Nike and Nike I worked on Intel and Nike Intel big corporations they hire they pay people for them to live here they can come from India they can come from Dubai they can come from against and they paying to work here they given that money ok you work for us but is your apartment and those burning apartments I was about being built right now where they live now say century that measure 105 goes away and they come here to this country obviously with legal status but I eventually know it's gonna you put your people in these people's shoes and stuff you know you got a good paying job you're doing good you know what the manager the only there you doing productivity in the company that's what they want that's why they hire these people to keep productivity so now there are bees expires and such and there I want to go because if they go to your country you know it's basically four numbers zero so now they're hearing stuff illegally and when people call us undocumented people on the committed citizens or immigrants and really we're not documented we never been undocumented we always come with a if I came from here fibers all the stuff you know no legal paperwork and went to school and then a comment document it's like no the school knows there's nowhere I live to know my shots to know where I came from no I'm documented just a title to put on me mmm now not just for us Mexican but everybody here you know they put its undocumented no they pay they know how much when you earn then there are taxes and know everything so we're not undocumented and going back to that thank you do what he's talking about yes we are documented right even if you're undocumented right because when it comes about paying taxes right even the IRS issues and 8i ID number right so you have to come up with some documents that you know identifies yourself right you open an account and then they give you this number and then you can do a lot of things with it you know you pay taxes you can probably open a bank account you know you pay taxes and when you are getting your immigration paperwork work right you're getting your permit and you're going through the process they even ask you if you work before and you pay taxes because that's a point on your site right it's on your favor so in the immigrant community there's always this talk all you have to get your 18 number and make sure you pay your taxes when you get your papers you know it will be on your side so why do they insult us like this so they don't want us here right but they allow us to be here so our money is good because it's green as you know this yours and you know is it it's the same money the way we get money is different probably right we do different things but immigrants we we do all the work that you know many Americans don't wanna you know do and we know that and pretty much is the trip of the jobs right the duty dangerous and dull right not just the job many America many jobs that oracles I'm going to do so immigrants are in the cushion you know where the cushion of American society because we do all these jobs and I'm a business owner you know and and I can say I'm not in the pattern but I have worked in different industries I work my way up right but we are the bottom of American society so Americans have other opportunities that we don't have we are not equal here you know immigrants in Americans we're not in the same level we are really hard workers you know but we don't have access to education we don't have access to health services right that's an issue even some tax credits and interesting a figure probably they're trying to confirm this figure and they're talking about 700 billion dollars on benefits tax benefits not return today to the undocumented people the people working with items so that's a huge money and in this environment we have to say this America is coming back to the racist studies they're legalizing the racism the 105 is legalizing the racism again and we cannot wait we can allow a lot of time we what if I were to ask a question and this think about that mean we're voting here now a lot of folks are saying well they've never asked what do you feel is the solution to the problem what do you think the solution to this problem would be in terms of recognizing Mexicans they got this situation about the illegal or that whole illegal justice that never you say I'm saying yeah I mean my point is that their solution is okay fine we need to pass this bill okay so that can be nice so what do you see it as a solution ten years ago they were they were working on immigration reform but everything just jump up and jump back the thing is having a background check to all the workers and that includes taxes and criminal history and at the same time providing to the community voluntary job even we are not committing any crime better people just pursuing the status can provide voluntary job to the community and yes a couple hundred million hours that can provide to the community and very good work in construction health care and high tech in restaurants in the fields so having work in a holistic solution that brings all together - and it's gonna be good for for American workers too because now pushing back the market and this is something happened in in Oregon I think the the unemployment rate is four percent is less than is the the lowest in 19 years I think but did the jobs is not paying anything you cannot you cannot pay the rent of our studio if you work for McDonald's who did you saw the companies on what you just said not thinking think about this man Marilla it says but Marilla became the first Latino elected to the Oregon Legislature in 1986 could not they've had that discussion then young something was the issue was the issue on the table then I mean why here we are 2018 but I believe it's different though because I mean you said Latino and stop and we call that you know you have to be much precipitous let me write you just can be like oh it's a colored person you're a colored person okay you're clear person like right and your label know like you're you know black person you are a Mexican prison yeah when says Latino he could be Chicano he could be somebody else then by a second third generation the first generation where his struggles were not as hard as his previous previous brothers or if not fathers and such but he was Mexican and I read it the way it was but what's important but it was one thing though because I'm Mexican she's Mexican it she's Mexican he's Mexican but again one thing I'm Mexican have example mother brother mother brothers Mexican he's a Mexican American born here and you know he knows the struggles of us Mexicans going through and such but he never lived through the struggle of living in Mexico he never knew what it was you know when anything too corrupt when it came to working in the field all that stuff so when people are born here and I'm not trying to like criticizing my role and such just different scenarios I gotta consider in their mind and they don't live it you got ended only because their parents they don't want them to live it no more like how they did example your kids we all here you know upon we were kids you don't want your kids to live what you live you want them to have it easier life but when those kids like this person that you know and honestly don't know history behind them but when says that you know it has to be interested in that he was Mexican do you know that's why I'm making the point the point I'm making is that doing the work yeah Chivas was there and then as someone transporting this dad and there than working the point I'm making is that when that when they went to the legislature in 86 the discussion should have been happening then how do we deal 86 in 86 was the last aggression reform when they grant status immigration status to the people working in the fields right and that was the last immigration of the last immigration reform and after that it was pretty close in 2000 to get another another round we have that job and with Reagan officially Reagan wasn't in 86 and and then this other person English Bush in 2000 Bush right right and there was no time that that would have been the time that they have the discussion yeah and everything is stopped because of legal immigrants just a crash the planes and it wasn't Latino workers a lot there were legal immigrants they were having on the steps that were having pieces yeah the tourists that crashed planes in the in the World Trade Center so they're shaping the discussion and the way they want and we are Soglin all the time to do to change the immigration changes according to who is in power you know at the time locally and nationally and you know all over the world has a very very big struggle working from present of the immigration status that ended isn't that in daca because there is no response so he uses the power to push the dark hour but daca was wasn't a gift from a bomber but that guy was the result like him anyway it was a result of many young immigrants it was a movement you know going from town to town advocating you know for the right to be here right so it wasn't a gift he was pressured but it was community pressure it was you know a very upset young generation of immigrants say we are here you cannot get rid of us like that you have to give us something you see government is very smart sometimes social right because they they have to give you something one way or another oh yeah to release the social pressure that is existing locally you know in the national yeah I didn't say it was a gift was a recognition of the the problem happened and because of the legislature is paralyzed and he's not doing anything he pushed that he push that because he was pushed by the community so it's like a african-american people to the the struggle is two hundred years and little by little little by little getting getting one gain here and one gain there and probably an estate step back here and there will keep and keep working keep building and that's the something the way we need to work all that communities all the minorities together because now the political environment or environment is corrosive to the the communities you know when I'm hearing you that we need to have a major discussions you know and I wanted to make sure that we at least present another side to this issue here because the solution is going to you know hope the solution that I don't I didn't see the solution in the bill in terms of how it's being presented got me there was racial profiling in the peace aspect of it and then that was the bracero peace you know so that's another piece you know anything and and so the key is that they need to just talk about it for what it real like going back day one when they made that change someone should have said stop let's make sure we we gotta make them citizens or improve the zero program make sure they got the green cards or whatever them cause there's the beer to come and work but they didn't do that you know people just didn't do that they were just kind of like just cut the whole thing off I'm just giving you even as a lay person to a certain degree everybody's got different deals and but that's why it's important that they hear the conversation from the culture because it was Mexicans at the time that was doing this it wasn't like I said he wasn't Latinos the Mexicans were doing the work and then all these other entities brought got in so so we almost have to go back to square one 86 and say well what how did all this stuff come about and and again I was very familiar with the Reagan administration when they gave the citizenship to just blocking citizenship that time that was political and the same thing with President Bush that was a political aspect of it and I can remember the President of Mexico come in here and I could remember the tape cooling Gauss keys and working at the at the Mexican Embassy I was there at one point I'm you know I'm basically giving them issues they didn't talk about basically I mean really getting into English he was just won't just take this card got me and then you can go over here and get this some food and just stand there so my point is it it's it's it's more than just what this bill is but the fact I'm at is what is this bill going to do if it's passed one way or the other I didn't interview those four before to check out that inventory again that they says was a as a whole definition so meaning that the the the political part of it that's what I'm concerned is responsible because the people who were basically talking to this issue of the repeal piece they've got a whole different mindset in terms of why they're doing what they're doing I'm just being right up front with you that that's a it's kind of like a racist kind of a mindset piece and and so I wanted to make sure we we bring those pieces out and and maybe even consider spending a little bit more time on this I'm just saying I'm saying got me even to the point I'll be right upfront even to the point of maybe bringing that person ff and just say okay fine we sit down there together okay fine let's talk about what's on your mind we said because that's what that's kind of make because this is we talk about since 86 you can't do it in 25 or 30 minutes to really expressive it so I'm just saying we can get that discussion going on there are political reasons there we're not talking about politics we're talking about human beings you know is we talking about a culture that has been misused way back when and then there was a process wherever we stopped it we should have really talked and start solving the problem we got to go back to that point and knock those eyes and cross those T's we got a lot of folks here and folks in thing that can get up tomorrow morning until all of a sudden you know 20 million people give me 20 million people got to go back you see and win that part of those discussions right up front with you with the president now he's made a deal with me the new president of Mexico we weren't sitting at those tables we're in Oregon we're in Portland Oregon they're all trying to survive cuz everybody gotta eat yeah the one thing that this important point now is that the 105 is state law and the immigration is federal so we need to to separate this and we as a state we need to push the immigration because I the but the business owners need the workforce and but at the state level keep protecting our community yeah yeah and just giving up the status of Sanford he's gonna is it's gonna crush our communities and it's gonna legalize the profile the racial profiling the produce because we're saying what you were saying and I've been around this business for quite some time you know just knowing that that's from a journalistic standpoint doing what I do if you don't get the two people together to at least talk seriously eyeball eyeball tap routine and you got other people representing it and you got to figure out what why they're doing what they're doing as opposed to the people are gonna be impacted and so by getting us at the table yeah I'll be right upfront with you there I'm saying this thing is so important yeah you know I'll give them a call do another good out shoulder just you know just one person just just sit around the tape ready make it public when I talk about behind the closed doors what's on your mind that type of thing yeah I wasn't experienced with that but uh but you don't think my point is that you know in point of view yeah because I'm sure in the other side there is good people yeah people think in that they are doing the best for the community right right but we need to talk right right right right because we want the same right so what I was gonna do we're going on and break it off here with the understanding then we set up another good hour but I totally opposed you know to to support like that's what I was saying you know there may be good people with good intentions but you can have good intentions when you are trying to crash another group of human means in your same community because it does the butterfly effect what happened to one person is gonna reflect you know it's gonna affect a whole community so they don't have good intentions you know that's my point source of the of the law of the sponsors of the love they don't have good intentions but I'm talking about the general agree with that you know but from that and you know it is clear they put it on you know on the paper you know let's make an effort okay I'll make an F house and in it so don't return you know I've read anyway I'll just block some time and we'll just have it because this is a very important piece yes and no and I've not seen too much outside of the in other country other states like I look at a lot of new stuff and I and I see this piece here and and like you were saying I know some good people you in thank you money when I interviewed the folks it was kind of interesting into my interview but when you get down into people the saying that I got to eat I gotta have a place to stay and to feed my kids and then now come to the table that's talk socket end okay so we're gonna go and take this this break here now and and I'll just get back to you all right come back the same thing yeah everybody make that I'll make that call alright take a short break and we'll be right back we're gonna come in on the city club gathering I'm Maria and and I got I've got that I got my de Moura Devorah Harris and she ran for she ran for county chair and that we just want to kind of just do a little overview of the City Club thing okay we take a short break and we'll be right back okay okay well let you guys go into - you guys go I'm gonna see them happenin okay you are watching Oregon voters digest this program can be seen again on these channels on these dates and times tell a friend [Music] I'm back I'm back folks okay fine as you can see I ended the show by basically saying okay fine we got a bigger issue than that and we're gonna see if we can put something together and see them get both sides together which is Picou on this whole issue of 105 and I think it would be HUGE if we can do something like that okay so anyway we're going to do that part but we'll take this next 15 minutes I went to the city club the other day and as you know we've got a very historic event here in our city we got two women who happened to be black Americans I was a nightmare but anyway they're gonna be running to two women who have been around for quite some time here in the city of Portland and there's a seat vacant ya Salzman seat at the city of Portland and we all know about this when the folks are watching around this area for that for sure but we thought what's the city club had had a debate kind of a deal and there's been a number of other debates and the newspapers are gonna be basically well they're gonna have their interviews and and their endorsements and this that and the other but I thought it would be neat to have some folks were very familiar with the area of the city bob has been around you know for quite some time and he's sitting there he just happened to get off the night the night green and he's back at the table I thought we'd bring him just a quickie know do a little quick a deal and then I got the Deborah Deborah Deborah Harris and she ran for county chair this last time around she did real well with $25 so though she ran against the Deborah Kerr for a and that was kind of interesting piece yes very interesting piece and then you got Maria Maria and Sharon is not here another she would have been here too but we ran I ran also to soda bottle and we're there for Mabel dishes so we're gonna take this they take these few minutes and got about 11 minutes or so and just go around the table and see what we think about now I know we were there any but this is the same thing you guys aren't too worried about and they've been there but the fact that Matt is they had to debate you can get it on I think in the city club aspect of it and it's it's there but I just want to get just quickie comments on the deal what do you think about the race so far what you know real quick mom ah from what I from what I've seen but I've heard it seems to be a boxing match okay rather than a litical Oh baby and that's qualified I'm not gonna ask you guys for an endorsed and endorsement at this point in time but I will be the same group they'll come back and you got to go through it on the so this way you can see what you want to see real quick what's the okay it seems to be a boxing match she said he said she did he did she did type of situation what's the issue well that they need to respond to they need to respond to the heartless issues conversation yeah okay homas issues that's it okay okay what I'm looking for I was at the city club and I'm looking for and people asking me who should I vote for I said well you need to listen to some of these forms you want to find listen to someone who has a purpose has a passion and who has substance if there's no substance into what we're saying then it's worthless and real quickly here the elected candidate will have the challenge of being at the table that has been historically dominated by men now I have no intentional or unintentional bias here but dominated by white men so we need to look at a candidate who will have the courage the tenacity and the and the option and the gumption to speak power on issues that affect the communities all the communities of Portland there are five areas who's got that power to be able to say if it's something we need to disagree with to say no I don't agree with that and not be timid okay okay sounds good but now you remind you now if she went one of them's gonna get elected all of a sudden is gonna be dominated by women and what about the men then what what's he gonna do a he to by men and by white men so we're still getting all that dominating factor [Music] are you gonna say about that my point of view about this race what's your major issue that you think it's in your point I know you you see right downtown [Laughter] yeah it is crazy downtown Portland but with the homelessness I will look for the most outspoken candidate and the one that is closer to the community the one relates more to the community I I don't care if he's this election is gonna be the first black woman elected representatives I think it has to do you know with the fact that we want some color but it doesn't matter you know who is best you know two black women fighting because that's a fight right for the seat tells us that a society you know we have to work a lot harder okay right because we have to be more in solidarity and we have to communicate better so we can support you know a good candidate and we don't have to divide our community you know because that breaks our heart sometimes you know you like you know certain aspects of one candidate you like other aspects of this other candidate and as woman we are like we want to be you know thinking about the city club and looking at the interviews and whatever I mean looking at the papers about now they are commenting and all due respect I was no concern about the write-ups that are coming up they're not really dealing with those issues majors like boom you say homelessness what is the solution and they've got to come up with some Clarke movement and I was thinking about one of the guys has been who was a senior who's a senior reporter and anchor person at challenge six and six hasn't done anything to did something I know for a fact but six hasn't kim body remember can kids been around for years he's gotten all kinds of tea and he happens to be an African American black American and it would be interesting if channel 6 did the same thing the channel 2 is doing yes you Steve done does his thing on your voice your vote aspect every but six is like number two and I would like to see a Ken body interview those two women because he knows that background quite well and he should know the issues because he's a he's kind of like the news anchor in the morning kind of a deal right but not my point so I'm looking at some more effective more effective interviews so that the public can see the interview not the behind the scene like like normally will feel familiar with other are going in interviewed us behind you can see they had no background whatsoever and they ask you some different questions and you don't have a dime to talk and then when it comes out it's not even which is it we need to get over the stereotypical so so often when we have force we looked at their as Maria said we're not I'm not looking at we're not looking at their black women that's not the you mess up this situation we're looking at who is going to best serve the community the entire real quick real quickly you know if I was if I was a citizen in Portland I'd be looking at who can bring the most to the table I mean servant a delinquent we time talking about funds from outside who has the Avenue the know how that's gonna be able to come in and hit the ground running as far as bringing in the funds from the federal government getting some our tax dollars back who know where the how to thought of trade through that water who who has an idea as to how to you know community is good but we have entities within the city that we should be pressuring to do the proper things within the community I don't want my city councilperson you know as my community act at adversary I want them to be able to take and get bring things into my communities and make it better at it I got I got your point but the point I'm gonna make right now is that that's why I went around and said which is the most important the thing that could the major concern in the city of Portland right now people are saying one thing I got people making tents in my front of my free guard throwing stuff all over the place my kids have to play out in the yard and their needles not there so to name it a game that's Priority One yeah what are you gonna do with that women they mentioned the Wapato and this that the other but I think that's the thing we need to really hit hard I think the money thing that's another deal that's the order there luckily well the Tony is not it I think we need less bureaucracy in City Hall mm-hmm definitely because bureaucracy is what slows down the results in the process oh how we're gonna clean the city is bureaucracy I know that I work for the Mexican government I can see bureaucracy where it is then you know I'm a commissioner culture for the new Portland it's policy Commission and I you know I see bureaucracy right there right so we need a courageous leader and I don't care if he's Mexican but we need courageous leaders that are gonna say you know what let's clean the house take a different path exactly because I am tired of being put in a box as a Latinos a Hispanic that's a black you know you have to be democrat that you have to be Republican that's old-fashioned we want a new heir we need change and we're not gonna get that change if we continue walking you know the steps of all bureaucracy sorry we need you know somebody that is courageous enough to say let's clean the house take it and convince it'll pass real quick one thing that I have promises hit home is it okay what do you know and homelessness really is we're doing the job no okay so we got two candidates do you think one one or both of those candidates either one could actually once they seat it there they can take the lead because in all due respect we're not district ties I mean there are many many mayors each one of the mayor they can say anything you want to say okay we're saying that one of those two people could actually take the lead not taking him from his mayorship piece but the bottom line we need some we need leadership maybe their job period we're not gonna say thank you for doing your job you get a salary you know do your job that's what we need so I'm spending a reason why I'm spending this homeless beef that's really what's on the back and and the my right people right now whoever can come up with that that solution of leadership like you were talking about that's the prison we're looking at not the it should be the mayor but the but it's not a mayoral deal they all mayor just was angry journey and yeah they gave away Wapato why in the people that has it wants to make it a homeless shelter let them people lost health seventy million dollars left left on the table seventy million dollars okay so we got homeless uzuki again right homeless homeless and and job taking not taking anything away from the mayor but he's not he needs some help right you need some help and he got and it's gonna be a woman's thing it's gonna be a meat to thing someone who's bold and courage enough to step up to the plate step up to the table I'm just taking an unconventional direction and using and you're saying that we got it we're getting away from the heat to the me to - and she - to the we - okay we're gonna come back again and we'll have this little session again but we are gonna do this again okay help us all the way good job and we're gonna see whether we can get the two people together on 105 and to not chat about this piece okay good have a good evening have a good day enjoy yourself and don't next don't get too involved with outside olitics let's keep it in Oregon this solves something we got issues here in Oregon especially specifically in the city of Portland and elsewhere in Oregon okay let's work together and let's get this thing together and make sure we identify those he twos good that sounds great I've got about another ten seconds or so on this end of it and please check out the YouTube aspect of it I'm gonna be having some more guests on the own another piece we're gonna be interviewing congressional candidates and then will be my next piece checkout you too take care have a good [Music] you [Music]