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and a lot Friday happy to be with you on this beautiful leg a a different way of celebrating lady around we are so happy to be joining you with the Cova 19 care conversation here on the platform of the Honolulu star-advertiser welcome welcome everyone i'm yunji de nies when I'm Ryan Kelly sue G happy May Day to all of you out there watching you're right ing a little bit different than what we're used to celebrating here in Hawaii but great to see a lot of people participating we'll talk a little bit more about what made a means to Hawaii in this circumstance but of course we want to welcome everybody watching right now on the platform to loose our massage we already see some comments coming in we'd love to see when our viewers and our friends over there on Facebook are writing in so please let us know where you're watching from and share this video and of course we want to thank our sponsors the Hawaii executive collaborative as well as Hawaii Pacific health who is now helping us to get this conversation out of course hph is a collection of hospitals throughout the state really helping to keep hawaii healthy and really in this cause working on the front lies lines to protect many of us here in hawaii yes and so much of what we want to share with you is information that you need to know and helping us in that effort this morning is Nick reading of the Hawaii data collaborative he's gonna be joining us in just a few minutes they've really been crunching the numbers both on the health side and the economic side he's got some great slides to share with us and some really interesting information about where we are where we could have been and hopefully where we are going when it comes to health and then some pretty sobering statistics when it comes to the economic impact of Cova 19 and how fast things have deteriorated since the start of the pandemic here in Hawaii of course we always like to start with the count and again single digits Ryan so we are so happy to see that yeah so the 11 days in a row now we're seeing those single-digit new cases that are being reported 10 new recoveries also bringing the total of recovery now up to 526 but the total right now for the state of Hawaii is 618 which were the five new cases that were reported yesterday of the new cases former adults and one mine but again we're continuing to see those single-digit numbers and again we'll talk a little bit more about to Nick about these statistics these numbers what it all means but some good news in that sense where 85 percent of the people who that have been affected here in Hawaii are now classified as recovered so we are seeing those numbers continue to drop and good to see that everyone who's doing their part has helped to keep that curve flattened yeah and of course what makes that all possible are the amazing frontline workers the people who have keeping are keeping us all healthy and safe and so to honor them on this May Day the the city the Department of Parks and Recreation is asking that if you have the capacity to make a lei and it doesn't necessarily need to be a flower lei well that's a little bit later but but that's okay that's also maybe this the city is asking you to put a lei out on your mailbox or out in front of your home to show your Aloha to these folks these frontline workers whether they are people who are delivering your groceries whether they are the EMS and the health care workers just people who you know your postal worker whoever it is that is making you know the the trains run on time so to speak we want to show them our Aloha so we expect to see quite a few lei adorning the islands today yeah and it's always a beautiful time here in the state always smells so good because everyone has a beautiful lei on of course people will more so quarantined and isolated these days but a good excuse to maybe put on a lei today yeah it's such a beautiful tradition and we love to see that all right level let's bring in Nick from the Hawaii data collaborative he's here we want to hear what you'd like to learn from him we'll let him explain what the Hawaii data collaborative is good morning Nick thank you so much for being here this morning first of all tell us a little bit about the Hawaii data collaborative and what it is that you're doing good morning thanks for having me the Hawaii data collaborative is a new nonprofit that we started that's working to elevate good data and analysis for important issues that we face in Hawaii and I think we can all agree that kovat is an important issue we're faced with and all the different ways that that is affecting I would encourage viewers to learn more about us at Hawaii data org we've got lots of information on kovat and other important issues in the state and how does that how do you compile some of that data and had some of that information what are some of the sources and some of the things that you pull together and to provide those statistics and numbers sure we pull data from state agencies Census Bureau and other sources you know traditionally we had focused on data that came from you know reliable regularly reporting sources but now in the face of kovat we've really focused on where's that timely data that we can find that helps us understand how the situation is unfolding the data that we had before Kovac hit was very useful but I think it's easy to see that the the Hawaii of today especially economically and and health situation is very different than it was just a couple of months ago so we're talking about the numbers at the start of this broadcast and we're seeing 11 days now of single digits the lieutenant governor has said that we have we are flattening the curve tell us a little bit about those numbers are we there yeah absolutely we flatten the curve we're actually on the downward trend of the curve I think we have a graphic we can show could say a couple of things so first of all you know apologies that this is so small for viewers we have a version of this on our website that you can check out later but there's two things to notice in this graph the first is that you know for the first two three weeks since the first kovat case in Hawaii we were looking at a doubling of confirmed cases every three days which is a pretty sharp day over day increase that's that's the curve that that were we were so worried about and concerned about when we would hit that peak we can see from this that after about two or three weeks because of the measures that we took that is no longer the case that we've diverged quite a bit from that that every three day doubling and now as was mentioned earlier we're in the single digits in terms of day over day increases the other thing I'd like to point out with this graph is that it highlights both how we've changed the curve and how much less severe the number of cases in Hawaii is relative to some of the harder hit states so we put on this graph New York and Louisiana who we you know we we've been we've been watching in the news and seeing that these states have been hit very hard they were at some points doubling every two days and they have also done hard work to flatten the curve but at this point compared to us with less than 500 cases per 1 million people Louisiana's over 5,000 cases for 1 million people in New York is over 15,000 cases per 1 million people so not only have we flattened the curve but we we've avoided the significant spread that was very possible early on I wanted to make sure that we bring in our viewers into this conversation so Brandon has a question and I know this couldn't be a political one too so we're gonna stay away from that and just focus on the data but he says when in your opinion can we reopen the state now I'm not asking you to give us a day but when people see that flatline they think why can't we go out why do we have to wait until the end of May what can happen to those numbers you know how stable is that flattening of the curve well the flattening of the curve is stable because we've we've socially distanced ourselves to such a great extent and so I know there is lots of pressure for you know decision makers to open everything up and I think we're getting ready for that but it's important to remember that we're seeing these really good numbers in terms of our health situation because of the measures that we took and continue to take and what's important also to realize is that in some of the states that have decided to start to open up there's a secondary concern which is that the the way these curves work that even after we start to open up and to more activities we may not see the consequences of that opening up for two or three weeks so it's really important that we stagger our opening strategy so that we could start to they were able to track how the day over day number of infections starts to increase again because it will but hopefully to a much less extent than it was before you know Ruth has a good point here she says the community has done so well in following the mandates our numbers are good however the number of visitors increase every day as some businesses open and it can be expected this number will grow the quarantine has not been respected by many tell us about that X Factor which is the visitors what you know how can that play into the numbers that you're showing us today well absolutely Hawaii is not a closed system so you know the concern early on was both how do we limit the new exposures that would come from outside and then also the exposures that would come from community spread and so we've taken measures to do both of those things but now what we'll start to see is that both we will start to as residents of Hawaii move around more and interact more which is one factor for community or for spread of kovat and then secondarily will be bringing new people into the state who are coming from all over and and and needing to manage that as well it's certainly a concern but what we've done by you know flattening the curve and taking the the social distancing measures that we have is we've given our health systems an agency's time to get ready for that and to make plans to to open up in a way that allows us to be safe and doing so the other component of this of course is the economic piece and I know you've bringing us some you brought us some data on that as well let's take a look at that and if you could talk about what we're seeing if you could just break down this graphic for us as well sure so what this graph does is it basically categorizes Hawaii's households and in terms of financial health at three levels households that are financially stable those that are financially struggling and then those that are that are unfortunately in poverty and if we read it from left to right on the left-hand side is the number of households that were estimated to before covet hit that were estimated to be in each of those three categories on the right are what we are early estimation we estimate for today postcode but given the economic downturn that's resulted from our social distancing measures and so you know what this what this means in terms of you know it's over half of households have experienced some change in income downward change in income as a result of our measure and what we see here is you know significant numbers of financially stable families falling into both financially struggling and poverty situations and then those that were struggling pre kovat now in danger of falling into poverty what is really important to understand about this graph as it doesn't reflect the the various stimuli and benefits and relief measures that have been taken at the state and federal level it doesn't include unemployment benefits and things like this so this illustrates what a non intervention stratten impact economic impact would look like for Hawaii when we run the numbers it's changing all the time and our understanding both of the benefits available in the execution of those benefits it looks like we're mitigating a lot of the changes you see in this graph except for in that financially struggling category that even with those measures it's about 20,000 households we estimate that our more households will be in the financially struggling category so for now we seem to be able to kind of hold off the the financial consequences for families that we see here but only temporarily so it's important to think about going forward given that our economy won't just open back up to levels that they were before how can we continue to be aware of the financial situation of our families and and and take measures to help them get through this what's shocking to me about these numbers is that is how fast that decline happened we've been closed for less than two months it feels like a really long time and it definitely is but those declines are so rapid and so fast if we continue to close as we are going to be for May and who knows how long it will take to get the visitor industry ramped up how many more families do you see sliding down these slopes well so this represents it it looks fast but what it is is it given given the fact that our economic activity has changed so much what would we expect in terms of family financial situations all the all the especially the visitor industry but other sectors that have been really hard hit by that those people that no longer have jobs and lay it off this is what the situation would be like given that and so what we have to imagine the as economy starts to open back up where will we see those you know the uptick pretty quickly again so that many of the families that would fall pre to post Cove it won't be doing so because those industries will be doing okay again versus you know arguably the visitor industry which you know there's there's a lot of conversations about how can we there's the spread side concern of new infections from visitors because there's also the other concern which is we need the visitor industry to recover for a financial situation to recover for many of our families there's a question here Bernadette wants to know where's Ryan so Ryan come on that conversation and get your take as well you know one of the things that I think some of the questions that people might have is when we look at moving forward and some of the testing that's going to have to happen and take place we're obviously going to see maybe more tests that are done and and conducted meaning more people will have the opportunity to take this test maybe those who are asymptomatic could the reflection of those results change sort of the skew of what we're seeing now with the numbers being that the data that we have now is based off of the limited testing that is happening but the more people obviously that get tested the more numb cases we may see than what we previously see now so how does that balance with the amount of tests that we could potentially be a B yeah what I would say is you know in terms of the numbers we're looking at now the the limitations and testing is less of a concern and when we were really trying to get a sense of of where the curve was there was a lot of interest when are we gonna hit the peak we were looking at it in terms of hospitalizations and which is a firmer number that would you know people that are actually showing up to the hospitals needing care and then testing positive for kovat it's a more stable measure of day over day increases and so that's one thing to consider we're testing and then and and contact tracing and the way those to work off of each other is really important is as we start to open up we can handle more more infections if we have the ability to identify those infections early and isolate them from the general population so that's where testing at a larger scale really becomes important and also contact which is taking those that are infected and seeing who they've been in contact with testing those people and making sure we're getting you know the the larger impact of that one person's infection under control to avoid larger spread you know I'd love to get your take on how we're doing relative to the rest of the country we have a lot of lawmakers and policy makers on here and so I'd love to get your take because you are completely nonpartisan you're just the numbers gu which we really appreciate so how is what you doing when we look at our response versus the rest of the nation's response sure so the the graph that I showed first about the the spread of kovat we look fantastic relative to other states you know we we early on you know there was a lot of uncertainty about how much it was already within our population so you you know you kind of have to wait and see even after locking down and it turns out for the most part like this you know the comparison with the other states like you know Louisiana and New York that the confirmed cases per population is very low relative to most other states so in that case we're doing really well economically I wouldn't say we're doing very well relative to other states although there's a lot more to consider with something like that both in terms of the short-term impact you know many many states have been hard hit by this but the there's there's you know each state is different in terms of its the immediate impact and then the intermediate and long-term economic and other second-order health consequences from the measures that have been taken now so there's there's a lot more to be determined on the the financial impact and other measures in terms of how we're doing relative to other states we have a question that actually came in maybe as regards to that second slide that you showed and then it's about the financial stability of people what do you consider financially stable how do you base that information based on where we live and maybe cost some guy that's a fantastic question we're inspired by Aloha United Way's Alice report alice stands for asset limited income constrained employed and they really were demonstrated leadership in the state in terms of pointing out that there are families that aren't in poverty but are just above poverty at risk of falling into poverty with just one financial event or other kinds of circumstance and so and the number they attached to that was 48 percent of households in the state are either in poverty or just above so what we've done is we've adopted that criteria for our modeling so financially stable as a household that is able to not only pay the bills every month and meet their needs financially but has a little extra to plan ahead and build that buffer of savings and all those other things that are needed to to weather storms like this that's stable struggling would be not would be being able to pay the bills but not having anything left to spare at the end of the month you know what do you think it's going to take how when we look at the economic recovery and I know that that's a really you know that's that's the million dollar question but when we saw those people declining in that way what does it then take to lift everybody back to where they once were well the easiest one is get them back to work right I mean what we saw there was the reflection of the the loss of jobs that resulted from the the extreme change in our economic circumstances from social distancing and changing and visitor pattern so you know that the the one thing right away is getting our local economy going as much as possible and then what's really a question mark for us and I know others they're thinking about this as is how do we start to project out what this means for our visitor industry and there are already conversations happening around you know what are other ways that we can strengthen our economy that and create jobs that don't rely on the visitor industry so I think it's gonna there's going to be a lot of continued analyses and conversations and and kind of having to respond to what we're seeing change week to week to start to navigate that economic recovery for the lay person who wants to gain a deeper understanding I know you recommended the website I know you have a hole can you tell us a little bit about that you've got a hole kovat sort of direction they're the people you know if everyday folks like us who don't totally understand and read and try to be informed yeah sure no so we do have Hawaii did org slash Cove in nineteen where we're trying to provide what we think are some of the most relevant and data points analysis and visualizations to understand what's happening and we focused a lot on the spread of kovat early on and building off of the the data that the Department of Health is putting out we started to back off on that a little bit just because you know as we're not noticing we don't need to so much see the day to day as we did you know a few weeks ago and that really gave a strong signal and now what we're working to do is ourselves and to support other efforts to start to build out tools that help us understand the economic situation and and be able to start to see where this is going and in what ways so people can have that better understanding we're also we're doing modeling and other kinds of work and and always in a collaborative way so the model is always involved the key stakeholders would really benefit from having those models working with them to to put important models and decision support tools in their hands so they they have more data-driven ways to to navigate the crisis and getting out of the crisis going forward alright well Nik winning thank you so much for taking the time to join us here today on the Cova care conversation and for those graphs I think it's it's really great just visually see the representation we hear a lot of the numbers we report it every day but to basically see that and plot it out I think is a great visual thing and it's a great thing that you guys are doing to kind of help keep the community informed of sort of the importance of these numbers and tracking them so thank you so much for joining us well thanks for having me Aloha so interesting Ryan you know he's right there there's really two components to this the health side which were doing great at when you look compared to the rest of country and the economic side which as he pointed out we are definitely doing not as great as many other communities around the country one comment that came in here from Tony and it's something we want to talk about today over 4,000 people showing up yesterday every flat YPO reflects that 48% you're right Tony we saw thousands of residents lining up for food yesterday it's the food drive that we highlighted in our Hawaii hero segment yesterday brought to you by the Hawaii Food Bank Bank of Hawaii the City and County of Honolulu and other partners who've all walk came together and are doing these large food distributions there's going to be more in the coming weeks wonderful to highlight the hero and also really sobering to see those lines extending all the way into the freeway yeah that's right I think being word excuse me they were expecting a large crowd to be there and one of the telling things that I think was sent by the mayor especially yesterday was the type of people that were rolling up right there they're people that never expected themselves to be in that situation where they would have to be asking for support and asking for food they've always been the ones that were giving and a lot of times the people that they saw coming through those cars and getting food were their neighbors were people that they saw you know fellow parents of children that they go to school with a lot of recognizable faces showing that a lot of people are struggling and it's not necessarily those who are traditionally the ones who are having to go through the food bank for care so finding ways and opportunities I think is important for the food bank and other organizations to find ways to meet this need and great to see so many partners out there that this is a I think Hawaiian Airlines here that was one of the partners handing up foods there in their purple shirts but a lot of various businesses and organizations coming together for that drive which as you said Yanji will be happening every week so the food bank continuing to get food out to the public as well as ask for support in this area as we know a lot of people are continuing to struggle yeah the food bank is saying that their demand for food assistance has jumped 60% and they expect that to continue to rise to that and we do want to highlight one of our Hawaii heroes today that's New Hope oo ahoo who is actually partnering with the food bank and other organizations church members there have gathered together they're doing food pickup and donations every single day from 9:00 to noon they'll give you two bags full of groceries just wonderful to see you know that community also stepping up to help you know there's all different ways even if they all come from the food bank or they all come from one source not everyone is in line and YPO so some people you know can go to New Hope and get some groceries there too yeah and again I think the thing about this one is they're doing this every day from 9:00 to 12:00 so again as you said it's 2 bags per family and they're pulling through the generations that are coming in from the church from sponsors from the food bank and providing this opportunity people who roll up to new hope to be able to grab some food so great to see their involved in a very large church here on the island so sort of using their resources and their congregation to help support and give back to the community so if you know anyone that may be in need again every day from 9:00 to 12:00 giving away two bags of groceries an opportunity again to get more food out there to those who need it the most so we highlight New Hope our for what a hero of today yeah the other thing of course as noted because we're wearing is it that it is lei day and hundreds of kupuna at the Plaza assisted living communities across Oahu are being treated to a very special performance thanks to the Royal Hawaiian Center so you can actually look in on this as well they're doing some of us on zoom' but they're also streaming it on the plaza assisted livings Facebook page today at 2 o'clock so a nice chance to enjoy some live Hawaiian music to really feel the spirit of May Day even if we can't be there to celebrate all in person it does feel nice to have some community and and some live music as well yeah and a great way to connect of course we know that the kupuna some of the many of them are isolated and so for them to have this opportunity to celebrate with everyone via technology is a great way to celebrate May Day with them and with everyone so encourage everybody go and check that out again happening this afternoon we invite you to make sure to check out more of Nick's research at Hawaii data org continue to check the hawaii food banks website for more dates times and donations for food distributions we always remind you fill out this census because it's important for Hawaii to stand up and be counted that's right and I think we do have the address here so if you wanted to get more information about some of the numbers that we went through which again I think are very telling and a great way to kind of kind of look at sort of the nuts and bolts of what things could have looked like because I think that was one of the telling things on the graph I'm not sure if you could really see it because it was a Spiner line but it showed where what you would have gone if we have those doubled a increases if we had twice a weekend so it really dug deep into some of the numbers and where we were projected to go happy not taking the steps that they did in order to flatten the curve so you can head over Hawaii data org to see those graphs and to continue to stay updated I think as as this involves and we can get more information about what's happening with this we also want to encourage you to tune back in next week another full week a lineup of guests that we have coming back we have governor EJ who will be talking with us on Monday to give a little more insights about some of the things that will be happening as more businesses come on lives we're seeing some of the phasing out of this stay at home order and more businesses that will become available for operation so we would like to talk to him about what some of the next steps are if you have specific questions if you have businesses that you are involved with or need and utilize and you want to know specifically when do you think maybe barber shops are going to open up again make sure to enter your questions and we can get to the governor to see where some of those businesses fall within their plan for reopening the state and then again a Tuesday a very popular guest Scott Murakami will be back here yeah and I've got a question for the governor I want to know when the library is gonna open again because my kids are so tired we miss you I will be asking that one but but in all seriousness we do it really encourage you to join us every weekday here 10:30 on the platform of the Honolulu star-advertiser we've made it through April it's hard to even think back but lockdown began statewide March 25th we made it through April now we have to make it through May we will get through this please continue to wear your mask socially distance you know we've made so many sacrifices this is the homestretch we can do it and we are all in this together that's right I'm again we want to thank you for tuning in and viewing again share this video and like a comment on we do read these comments and if there are questions we try to address them and and also if there are other guests that you'd like to hear from we want to be able to bring you 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