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good evening everyone and welcome to the working group members who have joined us this evening as well as the members of the public to our third Mid City communities Plan update working group meeting I'm Shannon core I'm a senior planner in the city planning department and we'll be helping facilitate this working group meeting tonight this meeting is being recorded and that is to support anyone who could not join tonight or would like to follow along um after tonight it will be posted on the Plan update website following the meeting for those that missed the September meeting or any of our previous meetings the recordings and meeting summaries are available on the Plan update website for your convenience next slide and here is our agenda for the evening we will start with an introduction and then City staff will be presenting in two parts the first part will be focused on the draft existing conditions Mobility assessment after that we will pause for 20 minutes for a chance for the working group members to reflect share their thoughts and ask any questions the second part will be focused on historic preservation and then again following that with a pause for 20 minutes for working group discussion we'll then take public comment for 20 minutes at the end of the meeting and then we will conclude this meeting at 8:00 pm next slide to begin with an introduction next slide we do have our working group members here tonight who are all residents of the of mid city representing different areas in Mid City they were all brought on through an application process for those who are curious about the application process it is available online this is and this slide here has their role as working group members we have asked them to be involved in the Plan update from start to finish we are aiming for an additional two more years in this process um we've asked them to review project materials related to public engagement research and Technical studies we've asked them to suggest ideas that could be included in the Plan update to also provide feedback on proposals related to The Plan update and um I'll also add a request for all of us who are in this meeting tonight which is to listen to each other and to the public because we're seeking to create a dynamic update for a very diverse community and we are wanting to be Collective about our approach and hear each other's point of view given we are all on Zoom this evening i' would like to request our working group members have their cameras on so we can see your faces and please also rename yourself in Zoom to include your name in the community you are from so that when it comes time for the working group discussion we can see the community you represent uh for the members of the public please also rename yourself with your name so we can see who is in attendance you can rename Yourself by clicking participants on the bottom of your Zoom screen hover your mouse over your name and then click the three dotts button and choose rename and a popup box will appear next slide and here are some logistics for the meeting another reminder this meeting is being recorded um you can also use the chat function to share written questions or comments throughout the meeting we have staff that will try their best to answer as many questions in the in the chat as they can however if we do not have time to answer answer all of them we will include responses within our meeting summary following the meeting for our working group members during the discussion portion please use the rais hand function so that I know you'd like to speak and I'll call on you and then for members of the public during the public comment period at the end please also use the rais hand function and I will grant you access to unmute yourself and just so you know in the webinar format you'll not be able able to turn on your camera next slide yep and I want to invite you all to look at the way we hold space together today in our online webinar World here is a list of meeting agreements we want to interact respectfully with project staff working group members and members of the community we want to stay concise to create time for as many voices in the room to contribute we want to consider the diverse needs and goals of the mid city communities and to work to provide inclusive input and resources and we want to share relevant on-topic perspectives and information we want to help maintain a welcoming and inclusive environment that values all perspectives in order to stick to our meeting agreement of staying concise and creating time for as many voices to contribute there may be a topic that comes up where we're maybe back and forth on a topic or feeling stuck on a topic or maybe there's a question that we don't have an answer to in the moment what I'll do in those moments is to ask that we table that topic and either revisit it um and come back to it at the end of the meeting or maybe it's something our team can follow up about after the meeting and address through our meeting summary notes so I'll be on the lookout for moments like this to keep us on track and moving forward and I'll now pass pass it over to Alex to continue the introduction to the meeting thanks Shannon uh good evening everyone my name is Alex Frost I am the project manager for the Missi communities Plan update uh Missi is a large area made up of four Community planning areas uh Eastern areas City Heights Kensington Town MCH and normal Heights Miss City consists of over 8,000 Acres there's over 133,000 people living in Miss city which is about 10% of the City's population as of 2022 and over 20,000 jobs there are 24 neighborhoods within the Miss City area next we are updating a mid city communities plan uh because the last plan was updated adopted in 19998 which is over 25 years ago and a lot has changed since then the update to the plan will serve as a 30-year vision for land use Mobility Urban Design public facilities and services natural resources historic and cultural resources and economic development the four goals for the plan updates are to address regional growth and housing needs understand Community needs and enhance quality of life evaluate infrastructure demand and reduce environmental impact next during phase one of the Plan update we hosted or attended 83 community activities and events provided two online surveys and gathered more than 5,500 comments from over 25,000 people we are now moving on to phase two where we'll be developing preliminary Concepts based on community ideas and technical analysis next we have several new documents on our project website uh the last working group meeting on September 11th uh we have a meeting summary which includes detailed answers to questions from the last meeting a draft existing conditions Mobility assessment and appendices which will be part of today's presentation and also a draft response to community feedback related to the revision to the Miss City Atlas existing conditions report uh we also have several upcoming reports and Planning Commission Workshop the draft historic context statement is scheduled to be released on Friday draft engagement summary uh by late December and U there is a Miss City Community Plan up communities Plan update Planning Commission Workshop scheduled for January 9th and the final draft Miss City Atlas existing conditions report were anticipating uh early February also a new announcement uh and helica Rosa from the Eastern Area has moved to San Francisco so she's no longer available to serve in the working group um however Paul Smith who's also representing Eastern Area has agreed to fill her spot uh we wanted to EAS Paul into the working group so he'll officially introduce himself at the next meeting when we meet back in person next now moving on to today's presenters we have Emanuel and Phil from sustainability and mobility department and Bernie and Kelsey from City Planning Department's Heritage preservation section we also have Selena Sanchez and AA Padma AR working behind the scenes tonight and I will now pass it on to Emanuel for the presentation on existing conditions Mobility assessment thank you thank you Alex good evening my name is Emanuel fora I'm an associate traffic engineer with the city sustainability and mobility department and with me today is Phil TR my program manager next slide today I will give an overview of the draft Mid City existing conditions Mobility assessment to get started I will talk about how we approach Mobility planning for the city the framework for Mobility goals and policies are found in the city's General plan that was recently updated in 2024 this included more emphasis on alternative modes of transportation and promoting Equity the city's climate action plan set the goals for moare and vehicle miles travel to reach our environmental environmental targets while the mobility master plan is intended to guide the implementation of mo mobility improvements throughout the city additionally we incorporate relevant Council policies into the effort such as the city's complete streets policy overall our goal for the mobility network is to encourage and promote alternative modes of travel making them a viable alternative to driving at the same time we try to balance the needs on the roadway Network in hopes of making it more efficient accessible and usable for the for emergency responders next slide please so what is the existing conditions of Mobility assessment and what purpose does it serve essentially it describes the current state of the mobility network of the study area in this case it's for the mid city Mid City communities it's developed through a variety of quantitative and qualitative analyses this includes collecting data from traffic counts and collision histories and scoring the network based on its current conditions and GE geometrics through this analysis we get a better understanding of the opportunities and constraints for the mobility Network such as where RightWay is is constrained or there are gaps in the network UL Al the assessment concludes with Mobility needs for each travel mode with a common understanding of the mobility needs for the area we can work collaboratively in developing the mobility Network that will be included in the mid City Community Plan update a high Lev look at the timeline for the mobility portion of the CPU we began with data collection and Analysis culminating in this Mobility existing conditions assessment this will serve as a starting point for the network development which will eventually go into the mobility element of the community plan we will produce a Mobility technical report which describes how the proposed Mobility network will operate under the proposed CPU conditions environmental analysis required by the California environment quality act will likely take place at or near the same time and the VMT impact analysis report will be created to disclose if there are any VMT impacts next slide please when performing the assessment we look at four major categories for each travel mode the man evaluates the existing usage of the network and is informed by traffics priority priority identifies the areas within the communities most conducive to travel by a specific mode for this the city has developed models including The Pedestrian priority model and the bicycle demand model which were both utilized for this for this analysis quality is described by the current conditions of the network and how comfor their bullet is to travel by a specific mode for example narrow damage sidewalk would score low in pedest quality connectivity attempts to describe how easy it is to get around by mode and to understand where the where the gaps are in the network last but not least Collision histories are studied to understand the safety needs for mobility within the community the study area was determined sorry get back the study area was determined by selecting key roadways and intersections that facilitate multimodal exis and movement to and within Mid City while also considering where planned or potential growth is anticipated ated this ensured capture of all major car corridors freway access points and includes 88 study intersections the study area is further supplemented by the ongoing analyses and development of the adjacent College Area Community Plan primarily this is elome Boulevard East of 54th Street and finally the city's climate action plan promoted a Mobility loading prioritization for our streets starting with pedestrians next slide please the previous lead describ methodology was applied to each mode individually although the data collected and Analysis do overlap between them starting with chapter 2 the current state of pedestrian Mobility was analyzed this analysis is summarized Into The Pedestrian needs map which is figure 6.1 of the report I will discuss this map in more detail in a subsequent slide but I wanted to highlight the data collection and transportation analyses that went into the creation of The Pedestrian needs map as shown on the left are the inputs for The Pedestrian analysis this included data in the form of pedestrian counts taken at intersections during Peak periods and a 5-year history of pedestrian involved collisions within the study area missing sidewalks were identified using the available data including a sidewalk inventory aerial imagery and field checks The Pedestrian priority model identified areas of mid city where pedestrian activity is high or likely to be high finally the city's pedestrian environmental environment quality evaluation or peky evaluates the current pedestrian Network to describe the expected experience of walking that Network it considers all the existing characteristics of the walking environment for segments and midblock location it includes items like the width of the sidewalk presence of shade trees and availability of a buffer from moving traffic at intersection at the intersection level it includes items such as presence of ADA comping curb ramps Mark crosswalks and pedestrian countdown timers the scores fall into one of three Cate ories low medium high for example a narrow sidewalk that's adjacent to the curb with no shade trees would score low on the picky index next slide please as an example of the inputs that go into The Pedestrian needs map missing sidewalks were identified through the community throughout the community using the city's missing sidewalk inventory then validated using the latest in aerial imagery and field checks missing sidewalks along the west side of Fairmount Avenue and in both directions along Aline Drive limit connections between Mid City and Mission Valley the biggest concentration of missing sidewalks is in the Eastern Area Community including segments of 54th Street Chas Parkway College Avenue College Grove Drive and many residential streets around the area missing sidewalks is one input of the overall pedestrian needs map details including figures and tables for this and the other pedestrian analyses can be found in chapter two of the report next slide please The Pedestrian analysis is summarized Into The Pedestrian needs map shown here key findings from All The Pedestrian analysis are shown on this map The Legend includes locations of three or more pedestrian involved collisions missing sidewalks areas identified in The Pedestrian priority model rapid stations and segments of low picking scores in Mid City the highest P pedestrian priority areas include in the central part of a study area that's within City Heights between elome Boulevard and University City Avenue plus a small concentration along Adams Avenue in the Northwestern area this is a result of a high number of attractors from commercial uses and major Transit stops despite that the detractor effects of higher traffic volumes in that same area the model findings were supported by count data indicating that elome Boulevard and University Avenue as the corridors with the highest existing pedestrian activity next slide please chapter three of the report is dedicated to understanding the underlying bicycle needs for Mid City for this slide I want to highlight the data and Analysis that went into creating the bicycle needs map like The Pedestrian analysis traffic counts and collision histories were collected for cycling Additionally the existing bike facilities within the study area were in Inventor similar to The Pedestrian priority model we use the city's bicycle demand demand model to identify where the bike where biking activity is likely to occur bicycle connectivity was evaluated to understand the potential traff travel shed for bicyclists and bicycle level of traffic stress or LTS is the proxy proxy for quality and evaluates the network or how comfortable it feels to ride on a bike scores range from 1 to four where one is the least traffic stress on the rider and four being the highest stress on the traff uh on the rider next slide please similarly to The Pedestrian needs the central area of mid city has higher bicycle demand due to the the concentration of commercial businesses and and other destinations this area primarily extends along elome Boulevard University a elom Boulevard University Avenue with a small portion along Fairmount Avenue and Adams Avenue most of the major corridors within Mid City are lts3 or LTS 4 in their entirety throughout the community meaning that the facilities do not feel comfortable for most casual Riders it's worth mentioning both the city and sandag propos projects in the area that will provide new bike facilities upgrade existing ones these include but are not limited limited to projects proposed on elol Boulevard University Avenue and Fairman Avenue next slide please Additionally the city is also updating its over a decade old bicycle master plan as part of that effort's existing conditions analysis it requested public feedback on bicycling throughout the city there are many comments made in mid city which this effort will be incorporating next slide please for the transit need Maps some of the data inputs overlapped with the other modes for Mid City public transit shares the infrastructure with General traffic traffic accounts were collected at both the roadway segment and intersection levels collisions histories Collision history consisted of pedestrian and cyclist involved collisions near Transit stops and we ALS and finally we also received data from MTS to provide data on Transit ridership and on Time Performance next slide please 2023 ridership data was was provided by MTS in the report the data is provided in map form shown here and in table form by stop this and other analysis is detailed in chapter 4 of the report I will note that we we recently received a comment that highlighted potential discrepancies in the data which we are currently reviewing and we'll update the report based on the results of the review next slide please mid city is served by 14 b 14 MTS bus routes including two rapid bus routes most of the western side of the area is within a quarter mile walking distance walking distance of a bus stop destinations and places reached by by the mid city serving bus routes include Mission Valley downtown San Diego downtown San Diego SDSU UTC and adjacent cities no trolley lines currently serve Mid City directly however the planned purple line is anticipated to have at least one state in mid city which may drive additional Transit activity and personal as M trips Transit within Mid City operates along the same roadway segments as passenger vehicles and is therefore influenced by the same congestion this Con this congestion influ influences airs with some of the highest Transit passenger activity including stops at Fairmount Avenue and University Avenue on Time Performance is an important factor sorry on Time Performance is an important factor for Transit users that depend on service to get to their destination average on Time Performance raged from 75 to 88% among the 14 bus routes in Mid City only one route the rapid 235 met the 85% T made the mts's 85% Target with an 88 on% on Time Performance most Transit users access Transit stop by walking or bicycling frequent occurrence of pedestrian and bicycle collisions near a Transit stop May indicate potential safety risk for Transit users but stops with the most pedestrian and bicycling collisions near a Transit stop occurred at Fairmount Fair mountain and University Avenue and then the second stop was at Fairmount and elome Boulevard mid city has a public transportation commute mod share of 4.7% Which is higher than the city-wide mode share and more than double them double the regional transit mode share for 20 for 20 2022 based on Census Data next slide please the data collected and analyzed for the for the vehicle needs map includes intersection and roadway counts Collision history for the most recent 5 years of data available and Performing travel time and travel time and speed surveys travel speed ratio is the actual travel speed compared to the Post-it speed limit which serves as a proxy for congestion chapter five of of the report details the vehicular analysis that in that informs the vehicular needs map next slide please the vehicular needs map illustrates the intersection of segments that operate at substandard level of service segments with low average speed to posted speed and areas with high concentrations of vehicular vehicular collisions the needs are largely concentrated on the roadways providing connections to adjacent communities and the freeway System including Adams Avenue okah Boulevard University Avenue Fairmount Avenue and uid Avenue the these roadways interface with the higher res residential density areas as well as locations with commercial uses there's significant overlap between the vehicular need areas and the needs of the other travel modes providing for the safety efficiency and comfort of each travel mode is critical to supporting a balanced transportation system a holistic approach to the to network development will be required to ensure improvements to one mode do not significantly decrease the safety or viability of other modes next slide please so at a high level I've gone through what can be expected when reviewing the draft existing conditions Mobility assessment for Mid City I'd like to reiterate that the intent of the report is to use data and transportation analysis to understand the underlying needs for all the mobility modes with the goal that it is reflective of the lived experience in the city this is to gain a common base for which we can build upon as we develop the mobility Network and improvements proposed for the for this Community Plan update to that end the draft is currently available at the project website and we are requesting comments by the end of February in order to finalize report in Spring of 2025 this concludes my presentation and I thank you for having me here thank you Emanuel so now we'll hear from working group members for those members of the public who do have comments and questions please hold on to those we will get to the public comment period at the end of the meeting for now we'll take about 2 minutes per working group member for as many working group members as we can get to within this 20 minute block we may not get to you this round um but we definitely will get to you next round and start with you if you didn't have a chance to share this round please consider the questions at the top of this slide as a prompt do you have any clarifications you would like made or questions did anything stand out to you and is there any Mobility needs not showcased or explored in this analysis for all in attendance both working group members and the public you can also provide comments through the chat if you see any issues with the accuracy of the information provided on our slides or if you have any detailed comments about something in specific the chat will be part of the record of this meeting and we will refer to it to make any adjustments as needed so um to turn it over to our working group members does anyone have any they would like to say please use your the raise hand function um and I'll call on you when I see your hands raised we will begin with Eric hi everybody um thanks for uh presenting that Emanuel uh I appreciate it um I've lived in elero uh since January of 2017 um just to introduce myself uh and I've commuted to North County um for that entire time so um I know a little about getting in and out of the neighborhood I think you nailed it when you said that the the biggest pain points for traffic uh when using the um you know when driving a car is getting in and out of the neighborhood um you know I I use uh coldwood right to monz Zuma to get onto the 15 um and it's it's painful uh in the morning going and uh and painful coming back because there's a choke point where it goes down to one lane um and and it just you know backs up from there um I think we all saw kind of uh the risk of what can happen um with such choke points on Halloween night this year when there was a big Wildfire um that shut that road down um and I'm going to be honest the only reason I was able to get home to trick or treat in the elero uh little you know parade with my kids uh is I left over an hour earlier from work because I heard about the fire and then I um drove in the bus lane on elone um because I really wanted to trick-or treat with my kids so um I mean I'm I'm personally when you look at that only about 4% of commuters use you know mass transit uh and in the existing conditions it was clear 80% of people drive um and I think it's more than that when you look at what you just shared with us um it's a little frustrating you took a whole Lane on elcone um to give it to the buses um and uh you know and you're making PE you're making people like me get home a lot later to our kids right every day uh and we're spending less money after work at in the economy of mid city because we just don't have time we can't go to happy hours we can't go to dinner um we're stuck in our cares right which emits you know greenhouse gases because if you're making us idle in our cars because you're prioritizing buses uh I think you're actually you're actually hurting the planet more than you're helping there so that's my take I think we need to work on getting people in and out of our neighborhood a lot better that should be a key point I think all of these things uh you can't just say you're going to balance them all uh you have to wait them appropriately if um 90% of people are driving then 90% of the funds need to go to uh the cars because we got to get around the neighborhood and in a natural disaster we got to get out of the neighborhood so um and a lot of our roads are in terrible condition and I can't help but notice that the city puts a lot more resources into the tourist neighborhoods near the coast and the uh neighborhoods to the north um and I think when you look at who lives in each of these neighborhoods it's a major Equity issue so I also notice that when uh thank you a water when there's a water gr project um our neighborhood just gets a trench cap and other neighborhoods uh get you know um gutter to gutter resurfacing so I'd like to know why that is all right that's it thank you anyone else from the working group have thoughts to share right David mody I'd like to let Lynn go first if you don't mind yeah no problem Lynn sure thanks thank you um yeah I just wanted to comment because I commented at the existing conditions report that the Eastern Area is the least walkable of the four communities in the mid city and then you see this map and you see the complete lack of sidewalks um close to Transit corridors that makes it I think for me really clear why um I don't see enough Transit being used in the Eastern Area and there just simply aren't um enough sidewalks to get to the transit like University um by the way on figure 2- uh 21 um it's missing sidewalk from stream View and bilman to University and that's not reflected on the map and that has actually been an infrastructure request from the Eastern Area since 2010 um it's right now about 20% done uh that's all I had to say thanks thanks David thanks Lynn on to you David I'd like to share my screen can I do that sure if you can stay within your two minutes I can okay let me um if you have the ability I do I just have to make sure that I am now focused on the thing that I wanted to share so um there is a discussion of congestion and level F service on roads and I know that's not the priority in the city anymore but I wanted to share with people what level F service looks like this is the intersection of uid in Monroe uh taken in the morning the cars are actually flowing at three times speed so the real speed would probably be something like well that's a little too slow it would probably be this um this is the only way out of talage we used to be able to also exit in the morning over at cwood and Monroe but when the uh Road was narrowed to one lane the morning backup now is back beyond the Monroe intersection so only two or three cars can exit the neighborhood using that uh route um I just wanted people to and this you have to realize is not elcon Boulevard this is not University Avenue this is not Fairmont this is in a single family neighborhood it's just a neighborhood street and it's this congested so that's what I wanted to share on the way of a visual um I second thing need for shade tree I put it in the comment shade tree is at bus stops uh I can get it's not just plant a tree but you have to plant it where the sun is you know where it Shades from the Sun um going back to Aline Aline is probably um is a you know non-arterial road with a substandard design and heavy use that trafficing engineer Gary Pence actually said was probably the worst in the city um and that the condition of that road the design of that road is you know was why there are no sidewalks there why there is bike uh route there um is simply not wide enough to allow for these other uh uses to be in in that roadway um all right thank you thank you David uh Thomas hi yes Thomas from normal Heights um I had noticed um and I just wanted to ask a question about connectivity um both for bikee and pedestrian use between the normal Heights Kensington area and Mission Valley I noticed that the the I5 um bike multi-purpose path was not identified on any of the maps either for pedestrian or bike um and while it's it's not a hugely helpful connection because it's sort of bookended by the eight it is an inact e connection and it didn't seem to be included in the analysis performed um or noted in the the maps and I didn't know if that was because it's it's a calr facility or if that's just um an oversight Emanuel or Phil would you like to respond to that or maybe it's something we just make note of and and follow up at another time yeah thanks Thomas and I'll let Emanuel jump in too I'm just scanning the maps to double check but yeah thanks for noticing that um yeah uh we need to include the both Regional and our you know City and local facilities as well so thanks for for catching that and Emanuel any any thoughts on that or how do we notice that as well oh no I think you covered most of it Phil uh thank you those are the kind of comments that we are looking at or looking to receive to make sure that this report is as accurate as possible thank you thank you Thomas all right anyone else from our working group yes mateline I have to unmute myself hi everyone thank you so much for the presentation um just one thing I think um and and that was a really good catch Thomas on your part for the community of normal Heights um the I was just curious as far as you know seniors go and and Mobility challenges that that that the senior community faces um if there are any like City plans for like volunteer you know driving services that sort of thing for um the community and if the city's ever looked at anything like that um because it's just very challenging especially with um you know seniors not able to drive and then the mobility challenges of um of the um of the transportation system and then the second thing is um along Adams Avenue between um the 805 and the 15 cars just tend to there's there I think there's a need for for some traffic calming um a great need for traffic coming along there F folks are coming off the freeways and driving very fast um between that portion along Adams Avenue those are my own only two comments thank you all right um Phil or Manuel did you want to um responded all about um any City programs for to support seniors um and volunteer driving Services if not we can we can also take that as good feedback to consider yeah I thanks Shannon that's that's great feedback and maybe just to share a little bit for meline the um and I'll hit maybe the first Adams Avenue so we'll add that and take a look for traffic calming um in a parallel effort we're working on some slow streets initiatives that we had funding for although that sort of staggered separately but that's a that will be a resource toolkit to look specifically at those kind of traffic calming treatments or traffic cing 2.0 U so more to come there but I think we can look at that as far as Network um development you know as we pivot from existing conditions to that and then you know the the ultimate plan um senior service is interesting right so the city just to be really clear you know we look at making all of our facilities Ada accessible um and that's more on our infrastructure side uh we have started working on programs uh both for multimodal ridership and you know more complete streets and started talking more about um Individual Services like that but I I think you know primarily that type of services coming through fact the full access to um coordinated Transportation that's the uh ctsa for the for the region and and providing senior services and matching rides and they have a Brokers ship model um and that's through sandag and then also sandag has a variety of Senior Services too so you know there's a lot of coordination across City to the region and to other providers like that and then um I would say the third branch is that we work with our community- based organizations so specific demographic needs and uh and that kind of thing come up frequently and we talk about our facilities being for all ages and abilities so um you know on on its face there is an a senior um you know program like um uh but I think in the future as we expand um you know programs holistically and look at things like Fred you know the the the shuttle downtown and we had you know a demonstration one in Pacific Beach um that we can do more of that and in fact we're trying to get more vendors on that list and there there'll be an RFP coming out in a couple weeks for that so um hopefully that's just you know it's it's the array um that we're we're trying for Solutions there but no specific you know current senior shuttle program right now thank you thank you um Eric I do see your hand up I want to give a chance to any of the other working group members to maybe do their first round of com comments if anyone has any and then we can come back to you any other working group members Lisa hey hi I I want to give my time to Eric so I just wanted to give my time to Eric Eric you can have my two minutes oh okay um hey I just wanted to say um you know I I I'm fine with traffic calming I don't mind driving a little slower once I'm in the neighborhood for everyone's safety it's really these choke points getting in and out so and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that the city can put significant resources I mean even if you had to put a retaining wall um where monuma joins Fairmont and get two lanes to merge onto there that would do wonders instead of one lane yeah that's kind of a expensive project but think about uh the public safety to be able to get in and out I want to note that there was a an active shooter situation at SDSU it was it was a crime you know not like a school shooter but someone right in front of the University shot someone at the same time there was that fire you have you're there could be a situation where you need to get SDSU students out you need to get our neighborhood out um I think Public Safety and then just again quality of life um so many of us commute um think about the hours we're away from our families and sitting in cars which again global warming um so I think significant investment even if you've got to do some major you know retaining walls to add the lanes just at the choke points in and out because that's where the choke points are um I think would do wonders and then yeah by all means traffic calm the neighborhood right um but but get us in and out as efficiently as possible and then uh the other thing I want to say is um uh and then again yeah use the money should be used for to for the maximum good which is the 80 plus per of us who drive and then just think as far as Equity a lot of people can't take public transit um you know think about the people in the military we very um you know so I have so many neighbors who are you know serving their country and it's not the best way for them to get their to their base uh at all the hours they got to be there um you know um by taking public transit think about people like me who have three kids I I'm not going to take them on public transit I got to drive them in the minivan um think about um people who have work trucks there's a lot of bluecar people in our neighborhood and they can't take public transit they got to drive you know their van or their truck full of their tools um to go keep our society functioning uh let's raise their quality of life get them home to their families quicker give them more time with their families in the morning um and and don't Focus so much on um frankly upper class people who are riding their bikes for fun you know um let's just call it what it is it's a I know there's people who commute on bike but you got to look at the numbers you got to wait your investment ingly um and and that's all I got to say all right and I know I'm talking about future conditions but sometimes the way these existing condition things are phrased and the spin that's put on them is geared towards a certain agenda and I just want to push back against that agenda okay thanks bye thank you Eric yeah uh rain Randy I see your hand is raised on to you thank you and thanks to uh the staff for the for the report I appreciate the work you did and it was powerful to see that the transit ridership in mid city was twice as high as uh the city average um I know that some of the highest performing bus lines are in City Heights in Mid City in particular like the seven the 215 and the 13 um continue to be the highest performing trend lines um in the entire network specifically bus lines as well um I I'd like to see some more uh more analysis that compares the mid city conditions to Citywide conditions um I saw the map with all the crashes but to to put that in perspective of the entire city I think is powerful um City Heights is home and Mid City but particularly City Heights is home to the most three of the most dangerous streets in the entire city of San Diego three Vision zero quarters OK Boulevard University Avenue and uclid the analysis um it was a little hard to tell that that was the case it just looked like a lot of crashes were happening and you could see a concentration but without the understanding the relation to the Citywide averages it does it it's kind of muted a little bit um I know that there was a Citywide analysis years ago that found that uh loan communties experiened 10 times more crashes than non-loan communities in the city of San Diego so I think I would like to see actually more analysis through the equity lens as it relates to traffic violence um I appreciate and want to see more bus only Lanes in City Heights um I think more people would ride Transit if it was safer easier to get to um I live near the 13 bus and standing out on uh popular Redwood and and uh Fairmount um at night is a terrible um thought honestly to do with like a toddler in particular um it's high speed traffic it's super dark one mistake from motorist could wipe out my entire family and um I'm tired of the disproportionate traffic violence in Mid City and I support all the efforts that we've had to promote traffic cing um I also went Halloween trick-or-treating with my kids and I appreciate that we have some Safe Streets in aelia park and um I know the residents of el Boulevard appreciate the the U benefits that came from the bus only Lanes there and they also deserve the ability to walk around their neighborhoods to trick- or treat safely and the streets just aren't gutters for to drive cars and move cars at the highest speed highest volume possible um we're here to plan neighborhoods and communities as well and we all deserve uh Safe Streets and so um I'd like to see a little bit more analysis that puts the conditions in in the Citywide perspective um also want to point out that um 54 Street uh not that surprised to see that it was rated so negatively it's something that um we've been talking about for a long time um when I was at City height CDC we raised a profile on that uh in 2015 sadly uh after years of advocacy 15-year-old John think Cortez was trying to get home from school um there was no sidewalks on either side of the street a 54 Street um and he was hit and killed while skating home and uh tragically uh his life ended and and his family lost him forever and we worked to get sidewalks and sold after that but it wasn't until that death Qui place that that happened um and we shouldn't have to wait for more more people to die we know where the crashes are happening and we need to invest in the traffic safety so um I'm going to be supporting that throughout um this planning process and I encourage others as well thank you thank you Randy well that brings us um at the end of this first working group discussion portion um just a reminder to the members of the public we do have a public comment period at the end of the meeting so please hold on to your thoughts and your comments and we will get to you um I'll now pass it on to Bernie uh for the historic preservation presentation great thank you Shannon hello my name is Bernie Turon senior planner with the Heritage preservation section with me this evening is Kelsey Kaline associate planner and Kelly stonko deputy director this presentation is intended to introduce the historic and cultural component of the mid City Community Plan communities Plan update by way of background the general plan contains a historic preservation element to guide the preservation protection restoration and Rehabilitation of historical and cultural resources goals are identification and preservation of the city's important historical resources and integration of historic preservation planning into the larger planning process such as updates to community plans this slide summarizes the historic and cultural resource component of the Community Plan update intended to achieve the general pl's goals each Community Plan update includes a historic context statement describing the history of the built environment the themes important to the development of the community and the property types that may be eligible for designation due to a significant association with those themes historic surveys may also be included in a community plan update based on needs and resources available this Community Plan update includes a focused reconnaissance survey which helps to identify potential historical resources that would need further detailed evaluation in the future and it informs the policies of the community plans future historic preservation element the survey is focused on identifying areas of shared development history such as potential historic districts the survey also focuses the survey also evaluates the potential historic significance of postor War II track housing for possible exemption from the 45-year review process as was done recently with the university and Miram Mesa Community Plan updates which I will touch upon later in the presentation the analysis of the draft community plan under the California Environmental Quality act will also look at the effects of the historic build environment archaeological resources and tribal cultural resources reflective of the history of the local Kumi there will also be a cultural resource sensitivity report for the environmental analysis the current slide um identif I resources previously identified the mid city communities have a longstanding development history and various surveys and individual property nominations have identified potential and significant historical resources these include the 1996 greater Mid City Historic preservation survey if you would go back to the previous slide please thank you a large the survey was a large reconnaissance survey that covered a portion of the mid city communities as well as North Park Golden Hill and part of Uptown that survey inventoried properties and identified several areas as having the potential for nomination as a historic district based on future intensive surveys three potential historic districts were identified shown on the map app here the dark line please go back to the previous Slide the survey boundary is shown in the dark line there's a Gray Line approximately the 805 freeway so this shows a portion of the mid city area the three communities um districts that were identified um one in the um historic Kensington subdivisions another with an a portion of the telman neighborhood and a District boundary centered around the Cartier building on Adams Avenue in normal Heights areas also shown or partial in the photo however the survey's geographic scope bisected the historic Tage subdivisions at Aline drive and a caveat was added to that survey that the entirety of the T Park units 1 2 and three and Tage Park Estates should be part of a future comprehensive survey recently the listing of the Talmage Park Estates historic district on the national register of historic places provides this missing piece and is also in the queue for processing for local designation next slide please individually designated his historic sites and historic districts in Mid City are shown on this Slide the historic designated sites are shown um with dots locally designated historical districts include the Tage Gates historic district outlined in teal here and the island a historical district in City Heights outlined in blue and while not a designated historical resource yet important important to this effort Little Saigon is a Vietnamese Cultural District proclaimed by city council resolution and a centered around several blocks on elcome Boulevard at meno Avenue next slide please images of designated historical resources are shown on this slide clockwise from top top left the Gustaf Anders house on biona Drive in Kensington Tage The Rock House on Adams Avenue in normal Heights the Wilkinson block on Adams in normal Heights several homes in the Island Air historic district in City Heights the Silverado ball Ballroom on University Heights and City Heights a historic gate as a contributing element to the Tage Gates historic district in Kensington TM much next slide please the objectives of the historic context statements are listed on this Slide the historic context statement presents an overview of the history of the plan area with specific emphasis on describing the significant historic themes and patterns that have contributed to the community's development it provides a foundation to identify and evaluate historical research sources for their historic significance within each development theme representative property types are identified and their character defining features are described along with photos of examples within the community because the context statement describes the built environment it is not intended as a representation of all the people events and places that shape the community's history the context statement also contains a study list of notable properties identified during community research and that should receive further evaluation in the future to determine any significance however a conduct statement does not result in the historic designation or regulation of properties without separate analysis and a public hearing process next slide please the eight development theme themes from the draft historic context statement are shown on this Slide the study period where historic properties are likely to be found in meaningful number is from 1915 to 1984 when the majority of the community was developed and it also extends through the 1990s for properties related to immigration and cultural heritage a historic context statement doesn't cover the history of the recent past because in in order to evaluate whether a property is important and eligible for designation enough time must have passed to evaluate the property objectively within its historic context next slide please the Community Plan update also includes a focused reconnaissance survey the survey included Baseline data from the historic content text statement the previous 1996 Mid City survey designated individual resources subdivision research and other archival research it also included highlevel field workor um which we also call a windshield survey its focus is to identify areas of shared development history and then looks at these areas for their potential historic significance the survey evaluates postwar World War II um tracks as master plan communities to determine if they could be eligible as historic districts if they appear ineligible they will be proposed for exemption from the further review under the city's potential historical re resource review process this requires review of all properties 45 years old or older this focus is on post to our master plan communities because their shared history and repeating building styles provides an economy of scale in the evaluation of potential historical significance the survey importantly also looked for potential districts and identified those for further survey all other areas including the potential historic districts and large portions of the planning area that have a mixed mixture of property types and a broad range of building ages would remain subject to the potential historical resource review process next slide please this slide summarize some summarizes some important characteristics of historic districts because as noted the survey focus is on identifying areas of shared history particularly those that appear eligible as historic districts a historic district is an area with a collective historic significance whether that is historical architectural cultural or other attributes the individual properties within a historic district may not be significant in their own right but taken together the properties have a collective significance it's important to note that identification as a potential historic district does not result in regulation it ident identifies the need for further evaluation to verify whether a district exists historic districts are not regulated unless they are listed on a national state or local historic Register local designation is a public process that requires property owner notice and workshops and historical resources board hearings the purpose of a historic district is to protect the historic features and elements that tell the story of why a district is significant ific not to stop all change within the district buildings are evaluated as either contributors or non-contributors to a District's historic significance new development and uses that comply with zoning are allowed this can include builing Al alterations and new accessory dwelling units within contributing properties that comply with US Secretary of interior design standards there is greater latitude to permit alteration to the character of non-contributing properties it is also possible to restore altered historic features and change a non-contributor to a contributor City Planning has also launched the preservation and progress initiative which is a comprehensive update to the city's Heritage preservation program that will streamline processes for new homes and other uses while protecting places of historic architectural and cultural importance and facilitate their adaptive reuse as part of this effort we will be looking at the development of OB objective design guidelines that will provide clear standards and requirements for new development within designated historical districts rather than rely on the latitude within the secretaria of interior standards next slide please the second draft of the historic context statement will be posted on the project web page this Friday December 13th and the working group as well as the broader Community are invited to provide comments the first draft of the reconnaissance survey will be posted in February of next year for review you all have perspectives and lived experience in these communities which is of course valuable to this process as a next step and when you review the draft documents we would welcome comments related to local historical knowledge such as individual sit sites that can be evaluated for the study list a look at the boundaries of the proposed historic districts shown in the survey and of particular importance narratives and important sites rounding out the discussion of the community's social and cultural history that concludes my presentation thank you for your time thank you Bernie we'll now pause again for 20 minutes for working group discussion please consider these questions at the top of the slide as a prompt do you have any clarifications you would like made or any questions what sites and resources are important to you and what's important in Social and cultural history of the mid city communities that we should be aware of you're also welcome to just share any thoughts that have come up um or anything you'd like to share so um we'll begin with our first working group member with their hand up um n nin H yes uh just a quick question for uh clarification about the timeline for for comments on the draft so the draft will be released to December 13th and uh is there a cut off date for uh comments from the community on the draft yes thank you for that comment um we were we are inviting and asking for comments by February 28th on the draft contact statement okay uh thank you February 28th uh just because um in in the uh draft uh historical conditions Little Saigon is centered around alcone and menow but uh there are other significant uh culturally significant sites uh on University Avenue and so um I want to make sure there's enough time for the Vietnamese Community to provide their input on on the uh the boundaries of the Little Saigon District uh as as presented in the draft and if they would like to see that expand it or not thank you and if I can add um we will also be um inviting and um looking for those type of comments on the survey document and as I pointed out the survey will be out in um February and then there will be time for comments on those probably for a couple months so um let's say through January through March we will be taking comments on both documents okay thank you thank you n all right David mody all thank you first of all uh I want to thank the talage historical society and historic Kensington for completing the work of the 1998 plan community plan which identified those parts of those two neighborhoods as potential historic districts I cudos to them for taking on a volunteer effort rather than uh waiting entirely for the city to do the work for them um I want to also urge all of the neighborhoods to really look closely at your uh for what's historic in your community uh I think it's really important not to throw away our historic and Architectural and cultural heritage with just uh unthinking Redevelopment there's lots of good things out there that really contribute to making creating uh attractive neighborhoods that you want to live in I personally find modern architecture often quite sterile and uninviting and is of course one of the reasons why I moved to an older part of the city and when it comes to housing only 5% of the housing stock is pre World War II so it's not like this it's this vast quantity out there that's left to be protected and saved and I am at certain point uh interested in learning more about cultural designation of of sites and properties uh there are two interesting cultural sites in my neighborhood that I'm I'm interested in but don't quite know what the parameters for that are so something to talk about in the future thank you thank you David any other working group members have any thoughts they you'd like to share Lisa hi I'm just curious after we get the historic report on December 13 and there's a there's a comment cycle are we going to review it in our next Mid City plan meeting is that on the agenda are we gonna be able to review the report or is it only going to be through comments via I'm I'm assuming internet email Etc yeah I can answer that we uh so the the next meeting working group meeting tentatively scheduled for mid to late February so yeah that'll be the part two of the historic so there'll be a discussion on the context statement and the historic survey um so that'll be part of the agenda at that time thank you yeah thank you great thank you Lisa uh Randy on to you hey everyone um thanks St for the presentation and the analysis um this is an important element of the of the plan um in regards to the social cultural significance question I really appreciate that question that's something that um I'm interested in elevating a Nana where I work partnership for the advancement of new Americans wants to elevate that as well um particularly the fact that City Heights is a historic Refugee neighborhood and it's been a resettlement area since the 70s and is a vital part of the identity of mid city um and we're interested in having it recognized as such um the the areas in in Mid City that are historic Refugee areas um the 50th university area in particular um has been the home to one of the largest Somali enclaves in the entire country it was the second largest uh for many years and to Rising housing costs um is is now the the third highest third largest popul some folks have relocated to um Ohio um but it's still the third largest and is an important um Hub cultural and economic uh area for the East African Community and somale commity in particular so U some people call it little Mogadishu some people call it little East Africa um but we wanted to elevate the fact that uh mid city is a the parts of mid city are historic Refugee areas we like to have that recognized in the plan thank you Randy any other working group members who would like to share their thoughts Eric I want to briefly Echo what Randy said I I really think um that local uh communities such as little Sudan or little Mogadishu um should be should be set apart um or recognized right um you know I think it's really cool that little sa saon is I'd like to see um some of the other diverse um communities within our neighborhoods uh recognize because I think that's one of our um the Hallmarks of our area and uh one of the strengths so uh yep just want Echo that thank you Eric anyone else Randy I believe you still might have your hand up from before um unless you have something else to add okay you put it down all right any other working group members all right well we can move on to the next portion of our meeting which is public comment and of course to our working group members um if we have time after public comment and you any further thoughts come up for you um we can turn it back over to you all so we'll now begin um our public comment portion of this evening um you all have been warmed up to the chat you know it's there just want to remind you again feel free to add any comments or um you know edits you might edit suggestions you might have for us into the chat as it will be documented um and then for our public members that would like to voice their feedback um verbally please use the raise hand function and I will grant you access to unmute yourself um we are going to uh have this limited to one minute per person just so we can make sure we have as much time for anyone who would like to contribute to be able to do so but we can also like we've done with the working group meetings me our working group members come back to you a second time um if there is time if you have more than one comment to make so um let's see here in our attendees I don't see anyone yet with their hand raised um we can also okay I see I see a couple now coming in all right so we're going to begin with Karen um I have asked you to unmute yourself hopefully you have the ability to speak uh hi I think I've unmuted myself yes we can hear you Karen I'm I'm Karen I live in Tage uh first of all I would like to take issue with what Eric said about uh cars versus uh Transit users um in in fact cars are have been prioritized in in in recent decades and still are um yes bus lanes do make it a little bit hard make it harder for uh cars but I mean one reason the the bus lanes are so good is that it speeds up the ride I sometimes take the uh express bus on alone uh from Monona to belbo park and it's much faster taking taking uh the express bus and having the CR lines otherwise you just get caught up in traffic constantly and you you you end up spending half half a day uh sitting in the bus uh and about historic uh preservation I really have mixed feelings about historic preservation I used to well I was an architectural librarian at one point in my in my life and have had an interest in architect architecture preservation or historic preservation but now I I feel it's it's being used to in fact freeze things the way they are and and to stop high density uh housing in single family um neighborhoods and I I'm really upset about that huge chunk of toage that um is I guess still seeking historic uh designation um you know and by and large it it's something it's a it's a resource that high income well-educated people can take advantage of and other people have a really hard time you know don't have the time or other other resources uh to to do the research necessary uh so I I I really I really think this city needs to be very careful about designation of historic uh districts great thank you thank you thank you Karen you're welcome um before I move on to the next public speaker I just wanted to make a comment about our chat um there's some options you have in the chat to either chat to everybody or just to chat to the host and the panelist so if it's a comment that you would like everyone to see make sure that you use the under the two field um choose the drop down and choose everyone or panelist and host only if that's what you wish to do um because we only have uh a couple folks with their hands raised I am going to extend this to two minutes per person instead of just the one minute um but next up we have Maryann green I'm going to um ask you to unmute yourself hi thank you Maran green here uh in normal Heights