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i see so many people coming into the world into mice into my world my space and they their dream is to quit their job and become this full-time investor and i'm like oh that's not really how it works you know really just involved in bitcoin and just fascinated with the space and uh it's been great to see it really take off and i think we're still in the early stages of that i built my whole investing career off of something that um says that money goes where it's treated best you know a training session a fight could be your last and i think it's important that you have backed up plans and now i've put my money where my mouth is and i've gone to where i'm treated best so i left california january 1st and moved to puerto rico but you're also leaving california if your brain and your body is on the line you want to make sure that you're you're making the most out of your money that your money isn't being diluted for all the hard work that you're putting into it and um i see bitcoin as really the only solution to that it's not about like we don't want to pay our share right and it's like i'm okay paying taxes and helping the greater community but to what you just said right it's like but are you what are you getting back out of it and unfortunately california they're trying to raise the taxes again this year which will make them not just the highest state taxes but almost double and you're asking yourself what am i getting what am i getting from living here in the states um you start to realize look geez i don't know if i'm reaping those rewards in fact i'm working harder to gain less but at the same time like you said what are we getting back so it's like the number one most bankrupt state number one in crime number one in homelessness i think one of the last ranked school systems all right everyone welcome to another episode of the market disruptor show and today i am uh i'm excited to bring back a guest we have kenny florian uh he is a you probably know him from the ufc most likely he's a three-time championship contender long-time ufc analyst host of the battlebots on discovery um he has a podcast with anik and florian podcast and a brand new youtube channel which i'm going to link to down below and you should go follow it if you want to hear what he has to say but uh kenny thank you so much for coming back and talking to me today absolutely man thanks for having me so um yeah i i love talking to you one i mean i loved watching you uh fight i'm a big ufc fan uh still to this day um but what i really like about you is i mean you have hey just a real quick interruption to let you know that this video is brought to you ad-free by blockfy now they're giving you the ability to hold your bitcoin and your crypto as it goes up in value and at the same time you can earn high yielding interest on it so you can basically hold it for all the upside potential and then you can make cash flow off of it at the exact same time now opening accounts super fast 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uh with john anik who's the lead commentator for the ufc and uh we've been doing that for several years now and that's been kind of recently taken off which is great um i just started a youtube channel where i teach uh you know jiu jitsu and mixed martial arts techniques uh i hand out a lot of free information and um also kind of break down fights uh on there as well from time to time um so uh yeah and uh right now i'm doing a show uh called battlebots on discovery channel and uh you know always something to do with the fight world i guess but it kind of blends uh some of the best engineers in the world with with the fight game uh and uh you know i have uh i have a gym in in the boston area called florian martial art center so i try to keep myself busy and keep my hands in many different things and kind of have the main main tree and then all the different branches that come off of it to uh you know diversify and and uh try to get as many different business things going as possible yeah so um that specifically so you know i know that uh you know not only were you a fighter now media personality but you're also an investor and a business owner at the same time so tell us a little bit about your investing in business uh stuff that you have for sure you know um you know there was a time where i i guess i was kind of in real estate i had a a few different places um and you know renting things out and things like that uh eventually i started kind of selling those and started um you know opening up uh businesses like uh jiu jitsu businesses and jiu jitsu academies um and you know as i got closer um to retire in the sport i moved into doing media work and things like that so i i kind of um you know as i got closer to getting married i you know got married later and now have a daughter and another boy on the way um you know i've tried to look into other things and one of the things that really piqued my interest i guess back in maybe 2016 2017 initially was uh cryptocurrencies specifically um you know uh bitcoin and um i'm you know very long bitcoin i i uh i'm a big supporter big believer in bitcoin uh to this day and um you know crapped around with with some other stuff and realized that is not the way to go and just kind of just been you know really just involved in bitcoin and just fascinated with the space and uh it's been great to see it really take off and i think uh we're still uh in the early stages of that yeah what i love about what you're saying and to kind of frame this up so i mean you you you're you're a business owner i mean you're working right you're an athlete you're a media personality you're working um you're also investing you're also starting businesses and so you kind of i think you said right like you're expanding your tree or whatever right so it's like you're diversifying so a lot of people don't get that right so that's why i want to emphasize that i see so many people coming into the world into mice into my world my space and they their dream is to quit their job and become this full-time investor and i'm like oh that's not really how it works right we want to be working and earning and owning assets and all these different things and so uh you seem to have that part uh figured out pretty good at least um i i tried you know here's the thing it's like um you know being a mixed martial arts fighter although i didn't really have that style of just like putting my body and brain on the line um it's obviously something where it's inherently dangerous and you know a training session a fight could be your last um and i think it's important that you have backup plans um uh no matter what you're doing same when i got into uh doing media work you know i always had something else going on and geez with this whole pandemic i mean if if i was focused on just one thing i would be in serious trouble right you know and i'm so lucky that i was able to do that and diversify and get into other things you know if one thing is failing i got something else going on or another thing so it's it's really it really has saved me and um i'm glad i did it it was one of the most important things that i've done and even you know you talk about bitcoin and those things i mean it's it's helped me a tremendous amount and has secured my future especially in uh an environment or a job where i am sacrificing my body i mean i retired at around i retired from fighting at 37 um i had hurt my back really badly um and you know if if your brain and your body is on the line you want to make sure that you're you're making the most out of your money that your money isn't being diluted for all the hard work that you're putting into it and um i see bitcoin as really the only solution to that yeah so um one of the things that caught my eye which is why i want to bring you back on is i want to talk about another athlete who's uh who's been getting a lot of attention who also puts his body and maybe his life on the line as well and he's also seeing the same thing and we'll talk about that we'll talk about you know more investing we'll talk about bitcoin as well before we get into that i want to jump into something else that just kind of popped up because we were just talking before but um you know it most people watching this by now know that i've recently left california i've built my whole investing career off of something that um says that money goes where it's treated best so that means every time before like when i'm when i'm contemplating should i go into this investment or this or this state i'm always thinking where would it go to be treated best right where am i gonna get the best return the least risk et cetera and and now i've put my money where my mouth is and i've gone to where i'm treated best so i left california uh january 1st and moved to puerto rico but you're also leaving california yes uh i actually um so i've been in south carolina now for since october i guess uh and in the process of selling uh our place in uh in los angeles and um you know looking to move i don't think we're gonna be here permanently uh um you know but we are looking to move uh to another state that just makes more sense um tax-wise um you know whether it's a tennessee or even maybe something like north carolina where you could still be kind of close to family but um you know if you're paying taxes for things uh and you certainly pay a lot of that in california you know you want to see some kind of benefit of that okay it's like i'm paying all these taxes but what am i getting in return and over the last few years i've been seeing less of that return i've been seeing homelessness kick up like crazy i've been saying seeing a lack of enforcement uh on a lot of petty crime that would go on in the area and you know the amount of property tax that i pay and the fact that you know in order to have something like you know a larger home for your family or a backyard even um takes millions and millions of dollars and you know when you start doing the math and and you're asking yourself what am i getting what am i getting from living here in the states um you start to realize well geez i don't know if i'm reaping those rewards in fact i'm working harder to gain less and and i feel like um you know getting caught up in that kind of a rat race no matter what kind of money you have if you feel like you know your money is worth less or you're not getting the same the kind of benefits from what you're putting into it then you know it's time for you to look elsewhere and that's kind of what what my family and i decided to do yeah that's that's a great point that you brought up you know i talked about myself leaving and then i kind of focused on the taxes because i went to puerto rico but i really loved how you put that because it's not about like we don't want to pay our share right and it's like i'm i'm okay paying taxes and helping the greater community but to what you just said right it's like but are you what are you getting back out of it and unfortunately california they're trying to raise the taxes again this year which will make them not just the highest state taxes but almost double the highest i mean crazy but at the same time like you said what are we getting back so it's like the number one most bankrupt state number one in crime number one in homelessness i think one of the last ranked school systems and on and on and on and on right and so it's like at the same time they're still like they can't even solve this homelessness problem they can't like you know what all these things they're failing in and i saw i was looking at this whole list the other day and they're still trying to get this high-speed rail system in right that's that's uh i think it's a decade behind and it's like 11 billion over budget like what it doesn't make sense you know it's like california has a gdp that is greater than most countries you know they're like in like top five or something and you're like wait so what are you guys doing with all this money i mean you got you got all these huge businesses that are in california you got you know everything in there that and they're taxing more than ever yet you're not seeing them do anything with it on a positive level for the residents that are that are working hard and paying their taxes and doing all those things so you know it came to the point where it just seemed like um you know you you want to get out before it's too late before you know things really go badly that was my thought anyway i'm not saying that's what's going to happen but it seems like it's kind of going that direction there are parts of los angeles where you know if you close your eyes and i said i transported you to somewhere else you'd think you were in a third world country sometimes you know and that's that's just doesn't make sense yeah no not at all and so that goes back to going where we're treated best i did see something just yesterday pop up and it was uh chamath i forget how he pronounced his last name but he threw his name in the hat you know to become the next governor if uh if if newsom can get recalled um which is pretty interesting and basically what he's saying and he's running on a platform that he'll drop taxes to zero state taxes to zero which isn't that crazy i mean many other states i think seven other eight states have no taxes um so take it from the second you know the highest to to no state taxes and you know proposes a bunch of other pie in this guy stuff but it would uh it'd be interesting and and you have to think right like uh at what point will they go shoot like we're losing everybody to texas and florida and nevada like maybe we should like pull back a little bit but it seems like they want to double down and so now it's like well shoot so many people are leaving i know what we can do let's give them a 10-year exit tax like right i know it's unbelievable i mean that's that's pretty scary you know um but uh you know chamoth is one of the smartest guys out there uh i'm curious to see if if it's legit and if he wants to uh make a run uh to do something in california that that would certainly be interesting you know now um you you said that you sold your gym that you had in california right you had a gym yeah so i had a business partner so i basically he kind of took it over yeah yeah he bought you out how did that how how has that been affected over these last like nine ten months through the pandemic it's been extremely difficult you know uh since the beginning of the pandemic uh when i was there when it i guess it went down march 13th um and it was really difficult to to get a gym going obviously in the beginning you know i totally get it there was you know a lot of fear around it we certainly didn't want to uh make things worse but you know a month two months three months you know how how do small businesses survive here i i i don't i don't get it and and certainly jiu jitsu is one of the worst things as far as you know the spread of covet i totally understand there's no there's it's challenging but you know i think i'm not sure um you know how other businesses are supposed to survive with everything that's going on you you can only do that for so long and um you know i think that uh the jiu jitsu business uh and gyms like it um probably suffered the worst out of all yeah for sure and and and then again back to other states who are open and have their gyms open and you know uh regardless of where people sit on this side of the aisle i mean we have states that are open and their gyms are open and they don't they don't have any worse deaths or problems in california does so um you know you can have whatever opinion you want but the facts are these states are open and they'll allow you to earn a living for your family and so those things are important too 100 yeah um so yeah that's interesting now um again now jumping into what we want to talk about originally um i guess framing that up a little bit so you've obviously been thinking about investing for a while and starting business for a while so you recognize like you need this this you need to set yourself up in the future obviously um and you recognize bitcoin which i think a lot of people come to it as like a speculation like hey hey just another quick interruption to let you know that this video is brought to you ad free by blockfy now they allow you to hold onto your bitcoin and your other cryptos for all the potential upside and at the same time you can earn high yielding interest on it so it basically cash flows now with block fi you can earn up to 8.6 interest you can also borrow against your crypto as well it's super fast it's super easy to set up an account and right now you can get up to 250 dollars when you set up your account check the link in the description that i have for details in order to claim that 250 because block fi is the future of finance just check the link in the description for all the details of how to claim your 250 today get rich um but i think you've stuck around long enough you stuck it through that bear market that we had that we had and i know you start to see it um differently do you see that as something that is giving us like a chance to opt out like a lifeboat that we have to maybe weather this storm that that we see coming do you see like a big financial storm coming i i truly do i see it as you know not only something that we can kind of save ourselves from but also deliver us into the future and kind of act as um you know i guess quasi banks international banks really where we can uh deliver money wherever we want whenever we whenever we want um so i think i really truly see that being the future um and i've always been kind of fascinated with disruptive technologies like that um and you know for something like bitcoin i think it is something to not only hedge against the current uh inflation that's going on um but also create a completely different system um and i think that any time you want to uh deal with the current system there needs to be something else that's built it's not just about getting out of it there needs to be something else that you can get into and bitcoin has established itself as that and when you see that it's been around now and it has been kind of proven to be this uh almost like unkillable uh life organism of money um it just gives me that much more confidence in it and you know um i think that people are still learning about it and seeing what it does and um i think as people realize it's power i think it's only going to get bigger and better so um the one thing that kind of caught my eye is there's a there's a big nfl football player russell a kung and uh he's he's been uh a pretty big bitcoin advocate for for quite a while a year a year and a half um been pretty outspoken and he's actually been fighting for uh to get paid in bitcoin for quite a while i want to say like a year and i think news came out that uh just recently maybe in the last month or so that he was gonna finally get paid in bitcoin this whole contract or whatever um and so uh as i i'd love to hear an athlete's take on that not only an athlete but someone who believes in setting themselves up for the future um taking risk out of things as you said right you you had your body and and and mind at risk and so you're trying to de-risk yourself into the future um you're thinking about the future you're a bitcoin advocate what do you think about an athlete like russell doing that i think it's awesome um and again you know uh we all know about the the horrific stories of a lot of these football players and you know the tragedies that uh come out of um cte and um you know the the depression or whatever it is that they suffer coming off of their football career i mean they're banging heads in there for years against the most massive dudes on the planet so yeah you know i think he he understands just like mma fighters or boxers or anyone really that um you can't have your hard-earned money and time diluted you know anything that we spend our time doing um there's a cost there and if you're getting money and it's being diluted uh by the fed and printing their money um it's a horrible thing you know um for me specifically you know my parents are from peru uh my dad was a physician that came to this country you know and in peru i think they've gone through uh two different currencies you know at least since since i was born wow you know because of how horrible it was over there with inflation so that is a very real thing so for me it kind of hits home that that is a a true reality um you know i have cousins and family in venezuela and obviously we know about the situation over there where you know it's literally cash is trash they're throwing it away so um it there's some horrific situations and i'm not saying it's going to happen like that with the united states overnight but um any time you see uh you know this kind of inflation it's horrible you know in jiu jitsu or in fighting if you're good you lean on your opponent and you let your opponent uh take all of your weight and over time that becomes very tiring you get tired until you do something stupid you make a mistake or you tap out uh and that's kind of what the central that's kind of what the fed is doing that's kind of what the central banks are doing is that they're putting uh the burden on us and we're working harder to make less and that's a situation that no one should be a part of and if you have the ability to opt out of that why not and i think bitcoin is more than that in my opinion but it certainly is an answer to that yeah wow i love that that was so good that that analogy that you put into uh into jiu-jitsu about leaning on your opponent right and you wear them out and eventually you have to get out of that um yeah well said that could definitely be a sound bite for sure um but you know in regards to that i didn't i didn't know about your family and being you know having having ties down there i think you said peru and venezuela and so um i think that gives you a unique perspective right where like you've seen currencies blow up you said twice right yeah you've seen venezuela and that that kind of hits home and so that drives the need the use case for you and unfortunately i think in the united states so many people have just the dollar the dollar is the reserve currency of the world and they just think so a lot of people they don't understand why i might need that but but it definitely it definitely makes a difference for you but so you know in russell's case i mean accepting that uh payment in bitcoin what do you think about that like from a risk standpoint though right i mean he's gonna put all his money into bitcoin and like what if bitcoin drops he loses that but at the same time he's still kind of in his good earning years he can still make a lot more money back i mean how do you think about mitigating the risk in something big like that sure um you know if if other athletes were thinking about this and like thinking about following suit right listen i think that you know for russell i think he genuinely has a um a faith in bitcoin and he has already basically seen what is happening and to him i think it's almost a question of um almost religion and i know that bitcoin kind of gets uh thrown around like it is a a religion but i think that he realizes that he doesn't want to be a part of the current system and i think he has a belief and and a certain foresight uh that i agree with um and i don't know hey listen if i'm getting paid tens of millions of dollars in the nfl would i go all in probably not if i'm being honest but um i think maybe doing something like half or or 25 of that does make a heck of a lot of sense because i think that you know in this year i do think that bitcoin is going to blow up even more i think this is just the beginning uh and if you're if you have a long-term vision for uh what people are seeing i i think that um it's going it's going to uh grow exponentially over time and you kind of see it like hey i'll take 25 percent uh and i'll put that that's like my retirement money and i'm gonna put that in bitcoin yeah um and i i think that might be more of a a conservative play that's something that i would probably do um maybe a little bit more depending on how much i have saved but um you know russell is obviously all in i i love the belief um i'm not sure if every athlete should do that but i think it's something that should be considered by every athlete at least have something at least there's something you've worked your whole life to become a professional athlete and you know what it can be taken away from you in an instant yeah and what better what better savings technology than bitcoin in my opinion yeah yeah i i agree with what you said about russell um of course we don't know all the inner workings of what he has going on um i wouldn't advise anybody to put 100 of their whole life into it either um so you know 25 50 whatever that number is whatever you're comfortable with but you know i mean he might have 10 million of us dollars cash sitting there and now he's put another 10 million bitcoin so so we don't we don't know that um also like i said he still has a lot of earning years probably behind him so even if he lost that he can go make more money of course the future's not certain yes i'm sure you saw the news of microstrategy which is a publicly traded billion dollar company and they decided to put their entire treasury about half a billion dollars into bitcoin the whole thing and people like oh my gosh that's so risky they're gonna put all their money into bitcoin but they make profit 30 million a year so even if they lost the 500 million even if they're gonna have another 30 million at the end of the year so like it's you have to think about the risk from uh from bigger angles like that but um i do love what you just said where you know um athletes need to be thinking about things like this and it seems like athletes and uh i don't know specifically for your sport mma athletes but for sure we know about football players and basketball players going broke all the time um and it seems like uh you know they're all college educated right i mean maybe they didn't get much of education yeah no definitely yeah yeah but but at the same time they're not really thinking about that um and you've definitely had a whole different perspective any insight into why you think they have that short-term perspective is just education their upbringing i mean no one's helping them yeah listen i think that a lot of it has to do with education i think a lot of it has to do with the fact that a lot of these guys are young and are living in the now and just thinking about trying to make as much money as possible and uh maybe have their priorities in other things but you know it's so sad mark you know when i see and i hear these stories about former athletes or former fighters and you know they're not talking the same they're they're not acting the same um they've invested in silly things like you know how many how many athletes have we heard about opening up a restaurant and then going bankrupt it's horrible to see and a lot of these guys are doing that and you know the reality is is that you know whether they realize it or not that they know that they need to do something with that money and i i do feel like you know it can be tricky getting into other businesses if you if you don't have a solid foundation or a good business sense it's like man don't get into things you don't know but uh something like bitcoin uh is worth investigating for people um and it's it's your bank account in the sky uh and i think that you know people don't look into the future as much as they they should again i can't stress it enough if you are a professional athlete one you are one injury away you are one slip away from it all going away yeah yeah it seems like maybe that's what you should be doing talking to these professional athletes and trying to help them out a little bit right um because it always comes down to like that perspective right and uh it's about you know having that paradigm shift and and realizing like shoot i'm young and i'm healthy and i'm a superstar but like anything could go wrong um yeah maybe maybe that's your next calling kenny yeah maybe you can start talking about on your podcast maybe it's not a bad idea maybe it's something for the youtube channel but i think you're right you know geez you know m.c hammer mike tyson all these other guys who had hundreds of millions of dollars and they lost it all it is very real you know having the wrong people around you or making the wrong investments or you know having someone else manage your money that you know doesn't know what they're doing and there's so many things that could go wrong and i think that um you know doing doing your research doing your work and thinking about the future especially if you have a family is critical you know and i think a lot of these guys are single and they're not kind of thinking about uh perhaps the future yeah one thing that i've seen and we hear a lot and i'm curious what your own thoughts are on this but one thing that we've seen is that um you know really to understand bitcoin you have to have this long-term perspective as you've already said right it's about holding on for a long time maybe that retirement account whatever um but when you when you can put your money into something that's retaining or growing in value you mentioned that how these athletes um they they they have this money and they feel like it's losing value and they have to do something with it but when you're able to put into something that's retaining and even growing in value it starts to change your thought process all of a sudden and now you're like shoot do i really want to buy that thing like like i have the money right there like it's probably going to be worth more in the future when you have fiat money and you know it's worth less in the future it's like well shoot i better go spend it and an extreme example of that would be weimar republican germany when they're having mass inflation or in venezuela for example in venezuela they might they might actually get paid multiple times a day and have to go out and buy stuff right away because it's losing value so fast um so anyway it seems like most people have had their whole perspective shifted have you noticed that in yourself or other people oh my god i think that's like one of the biggest thing that that bitcoin did to me is you start to realize wait a sec what is money what is this thing and you realize the value of it and you go okay so if this is gaining in money then do i really want to spend it on you know uh this these this gucci shirt or whatever it is you're like wait a second what was i doing you know when i was single whatever like i didn't get that still and i was like okay that's a nice shirt i'm gonna buy that dummy you just spent a ton of money on it but hey you know certain things like that but when you start realizing that your money is going up uh or your money has the potential to go up you think way harder um not only about money and what it does how it really is this this crucial trade that you're making yeah um you really start to think more wisely about your money and you go geez do i want to buy this nice car or do i want to buy a home for me and my family you know so yeah you value you you're trading value for other value and you have to see it that way right yeah and i'm just curious if it's changed your thinking more i mean maybe this is a chicken of the egg syndrome maybe you're already the guy who was thinking about your future which is why you got into it maybe sometimes it's the other way around but like once that spills into your thinking on money all of a sudden it's like well now i should think about my health in the future maybe i should think about my relationships in the future me right and all of a sudden we go from this fiat money mindset where it's all now now now i'm gonna have pizza and ice cream every night because i don't care if it tastes good it's all of a sudden this long-term perspective where i'm like shoot i should think about my health my like all these other things you know like maybe it starts spilling over into our life there's no question about it man i think you could be uh more accurate on that i think when you start to do the investigation of what money is and you compare it to other things you compare it to you know the hardest asset in the world like a bitcoin you realize that it starts to like embed itself into your life and spread into all these different things you know if you're doing the research and if you're thinking about it and and i think that that is uh it's huge you know i've learned more from uh investing in bitcoin than a lot of other things because of course you know money uh makes the world go round everything we do every decision we make the time that we take to do things um it really involves money uh you know and i think that's uh especially true if you are trying to look for the future and trying to provide for your family yeah now switching gears a little bit um you know well leading into that i mean one thing about bitcoin that's so unique and so revolutionary is that for the first time in history i can hold my wealth on my own i can have custody of it and i can decide nobody can steal it or manipulate it and if i want to give it send it to you nobody can stop it block and prevent and that's revolutionary so it allows me to be sovereign right no government can tell me what to do with my with my wealth and my money um you being a media personality and a podcast and a new youtube channel i'm sure you're seeing the amount of censorship that's coming out like crazy all over us right um and and maybe you're not that edgy you don't have to worry about it too much i have to watch what i say for sure because i'm pushing that line but you know i hear a lot of people talking about well you know the government's getting so intrusive and so totalitarian against us that uh they're just gonna ban bitcoin um but i think that like if they want to ban it they're almost furthering the need and use case for it like what do you think about that how do you see that battle playing out i think without a question you know i think that um censorship is a real thing and you know we live in the country that um you know you know the united states we live in a country that is all about uh freedom and we're seeing less and less of that um with all the types of censorship you know once i realized that bitcoin was basically a separation of state and money it was so mind-blowing to me that that's a system that we just accepted for so long right you know and you know i've talked to my brother about it and you know i had my arguments with him on it and he said well it's not backed by the government and they can't support it if you lose it i go that's the whole point that's the beauty of it is that it's not and it's incorruptible it's unfuck-witable you know if you want to say it you can't mess with that money and that's a beautiful thing and um so it scares certain people but i think that we have to be very careful of giving power to to the government any government because the more you know what cicero says uh you know uh more government intervention uh the more laws the the less freedom and that's what happens is you know once they embed you in bed into your life it's very difficult to get them out and and this is what bitcoin is doing on um with the network with with cryptography with math uh and you know as far as banning it i don't think that's gonna happen because you know whether it's the miners or the people themselves who own it they can go into and they can go to another country they can travel to somewhere else and use it um and you know there's some arguments that say listen the the network was built with a code and computer code is essentially freedom of speech so is the united states going to go in there and ban this freedom of speech this code you know the same thing people were talking about with the internet that they were going to shut down the internet back when it was still you know coming up in the 90s and things and you know i i think they found that that that was not possible to to do it the way that they want so i think there will be some of that certainly there already is you know some regulation around bitcoin but it's going to be more difficult than they think and i also think it's going to be one of those things where ultimately they're going to realize the whole game theory um you know uh around it and say well we got to opt in here at this point like we're losing the game so i don't know that's what i think but i think uh to your point um they did they did try to ban cryptography and make it illegal to own cryptography the code and export it they said it was you know munitions or military intelligence um and then that was defeated because as you said right the the freedom of speech they printed it out and they delivered it it's like hey it's a bunch of zeros and ones right right um but shoot man i wouldn't have said this six months ago but right now i mean they're trying to ban free speech so who knows what's going to happen with that but but but but to put put further to that point you know we have seen this this massive level of entrenchment into the system now where we have people in office senators congress people who are bitcoin supporters i've seen a massive amount of wall street getting into it and of course if you kind of understand how the government works it's really run by lobbyists right and the financial the financial industry is who's lobbying the government so we're really recruiting a lot of people on the side of bitcoin i also like to say that you know and this this might be a little bit uh a little bit hardcore but i mean you know in a year from now we might have a billion people using bitcoin and if a billion people don't want bitcoin to be illegal then it shouldn't be illegal right yes absolutely man i think you know and you made a great point i mean you have uh with senator cynthia loomis who's a big bitcoiner and you know uh other people that are in congress that are um aware of the technology uh gensler who is gonna be with the head of the sec has experience and knowledge about bitcoin and uh blockchain technology so i think these are these are all good signs i i do think that you know any time you're trying to change something as drastic as uh the monetary system you know there's gonna be a a lot of fires that you need to put out and there's gonna be a lot of battleground and um everywhere but i think we're in a good spot um it's scary sometimes but i think uh i think we'll we'll get out of this and i think it's going to be a technology that will be accepted eventually i i don't see how it can't so um man you've impressed me you really you really are you're really deep down in this you know the names you know everything uh i like that i like that um so you've been trying to talk to your brother about it he's still on the fence what about other athletes you've been seeing some interest from other athletes i have actually you know it's funny um i tweet about every once in a while you know uh but so i've had a few people reach out to me and ask me questions fighters and uh other people you know i i have all their friends that are fighters and uh former fighters and coaches that uh are involved in in uh bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies and things so i i always find that that's interesting you know once it comes up you're like oh you are too and then we start kind of rapping about it so i definitely think it's something that is spreading um you know and i always tell people you know more than anything else but before you're taking my advice or anyone else do the research you know listen to people you know you were one of the first people that that i found on youtube and were listening to and i mean you helped me so much and in learning about it being curious about it and you answering a lot of those questions and i think you know there is so much there's so many resources out there now where you can learn about these things and then you cut you go down that rabbit hole and you realize what system you're in and why you need to get out of yeah yeah great well uh man that's that's so much good information kenny like i said and you really impressed me i didn't know you had all that i didn't know you were that deep but uh but that's that's really cool um so yeah you know keep spreading it on uh keep spreading it around i guess so um i guess we'll go ahead and wrap it up with that um you mentioned the youtube channel so i want to make sure everyone's going to go follow that we're going to link to your youtube channel below and your podcast as well anything else that you want to say no that's pretty much it man you know thank you for for spreading the gospel and helping people out in a lot of different ways and thank you for having me on again and uh maybe we'll do it again man yeah thanks so much kane appreciate it thank you you