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hello everybody get lowered one my name is Lee Kilpatrick I'm the track lead an MC for the platforms and API track I hope we're having a great time here at Summit we have a really cool talk here from Brian Smith and Ben Mackey presenting about building your team's dream home in confluence hello everyone I'm Brian this is Ben we're going to be talking mostly about confluence today but a little bit about interior design as well yeah so we're both from the conference team I'm in engineering and Brian's in product management so hopefully we will bring some slightly different perspectives on interior designer maybe confluence and Cassiano engineering is really good at design right or at least we think we are but we'll see how it goes agree to disagree all right but before we dive in I'd like everyone just take a moment and think about what your dream home would be where you'd love to end up one day and I bet if I could take what everyone's thinking right now and put that on the screen we'd get a bunch of different unique types of homes and that's because everyone's a little different you have different backgrounds different experiences different goals and when we think about confluence we often think about think of it as a home so some of you might picture something like this this beautiful colonial estate some of you might have pictured this Spanish villa but the point is that when you're using confluence to create a home for your team a hub for collaboration it's always going to be a little different for each team so when you're building that home you need to keep that in mind and we're going to walk through some best practices that we think will help you be successful and set your team up for success now confluence over the years has been used by teams of all sizes whether it's a team of one team of two or a fortune 500 company confluence can scale with you and allow you to get stuff done no matter what the size but what we've seen and noticed over the years is that usually there is one person or sometimes a group of people that actually drive confluence throughout the organization and they're tasked with trying to set it up and often whether they're successful or not and that determines the success of the entire team so this person is someone that Ben and I like to call the architect I bet many of you in this room today now that you're here at Summit attending this talk are actually this person for your team so we want to talk about some best practices for architects of confluence just like building a home you start with the foundation you want to have a good structure to build upon you want to add modifications so it could be furniture decorations things like that then of course you always want to do some do-it-yourself projects if you're handy you know Ben does some that's not really my specialty but this translates pretty well to how we think about confluence right confluence has things like spaces pages blogs comments this can help you get up and running and get a lot of stuff done with your team but to really enhance and take it to the next level you can add modifications in this case we're going to talk a lot about add-on so you can add into the product to help enhance your team and take it to the next level then finally with confluence Connect you can actually create your own add-ons for those really specific needs that you and your team have so let's get started the foundation so as I said when you get started with confluence everyone kind of gets the same thing and it's on you to figure out how you can modify and set set it up and structure it for your team whenever we get asked how should this work we tend to just say well what are you trying to do what do you need your home to do everyone has a slightly different answer to this but I think it's really important to understand that because that will determine how you set up confluence in each of the spaces within it so you can think of it as a floor plan of sorts you have different rooms which we refer to as spaces within the product and if you give each space a purpose just like you would a room it can help you tailor it to the specific needs of your team so it could be software projects another room or space could be reference documentation again this is going to be different you have different customers using this in a slightly different way and so there are different best practices that we're going to walk through customer projects not all projects are the same software teams have slightly different needs than a client or sales organization there are different techniques you can use to set those faces up and optimize for that type of team another example is community as you get to become a big organization you need things like intranet company-wide blogs you want to maybe theme it to your brand and so these spaces are going to look a little different as well so let's walk through some actual examples so I don't just talk about it so you can see here this is an example of a project in confluence you'll notice it has a status it has an overview a mission statement of sorts you have a goal any good project has a goal you have relevant content that you pinups on top of the page so anyone who's on your team are not on your team can really access it easily this is a great way to set up a space for project collaboration team knowledge is a little different it's about sharing information with your team making sure everyone on the team is on the same page aligned as a pulse of what's going on so you might have your team members avatars front and center a blog stream so you can share ideas and collaborate and then with your team you probably want to know what's going on and so you can add these recently updated section here on the far right so you can always see what's going on and jump in if you need to to provide feedback to your teammates reference documentation is a little different it's more about a smaller number of people creating content and sharing it out to an entire organization the example here is actually an internal thing we have at our lasting confluence instance that has a lot of our HR documentation this is really great because you can set it up slightly differently and you can find things like policies and programs again it looks different and there are different ways you should set it up if this is actually the goal that you're trying to do with confluence and then finally community this obviously looks a lot different than the other examples I've shown you can create custom themes to your brand you can pin materials change layouts this is a really great use case if you're trying to build an intranet for a larger organization so project collaboration reference documentation team knowledge we've found through our research are the most common use cases or as we call them jobs for confluence and you eventually pull these together and actually have community like the last job that we just showed so I'm actually curious it's a little hard for me to see if the light but how many people can you raise your hand if you use confluence for project collaboration today oh wow that is a lot cool how about reference documentation a lot as well how about team knowledge okay awesome well we actually looked at this data and we saw that an average confluence cloud customer we see this rough breakdown and it was about even across all the hand so that lines up with our data and we do see that over time more and more spaces actually are lined with projects which makes sense right as you do more and more projects and have a space for each of them you're going to have a lot more of those then maybe just team knowledge because you're team number of teams is more static so some best practice is to keep in mind and bring this back to your team don't just have one space that's like having a house with one room it's going to be cluttered it's going to be chaotic there's no privacy it's going to be really hard for your team to collaborate tailor each space for what you're trying to do not all spaces need to look and feel and operate in the same way so be intentional with how you set it up and then you can actually add additional modifications using the ecosystem actually create different functionalities within each of your rooms or spaces that's what we're going to talk about next so let's go into furniture you want to design you can just think of this as designing the interior everyone wants to pick different furniture things to put on the wall whatever there are a whole array of tools that you can add into confluence to enhance your team's ability to get stuff done so what Ben and I are going to do actually walk through each of these rooms and talk about some of the furniture add-ons that we think are great additions to put in each of them depending on what you're trying to do so we're going to start with software projects and I think it's best if the engineer handles this I'm going to hand it off the Ben who's going to walk through some of these add-ons all right thanks Brian so software projects you know typical project has different phases you start with an idea and that is often on a page if you head over to the product brew for confluence today we're capturing ideas from you about how your great projects or ideas started with a page and then there are other phases when we get into more detailed planning and then get on with the work and then learn from the project so we can keep improving and confluence has out of the box a number of templates to help your team come together into one place so we have a decision blueprint which is a really popular blueprint for when you're in visiting a project to capture those really important decisions so that everyone can see those decisions and what they were but also help with that workflow of going through that decision-making process but not only that with What's in content and compliments from a static point of view but you can also dynamically linked to more richer content that could be in other systems and so you may have designers that are doing their designs and a high fidelity prototyping tool such as atomic here and instead of that team kind of being a bit over here and and then having to share their files over email or in other ways you can integrate with these tools through complements add-ons so that all the team is collaborating on the project together in the one place in your project space but not only with high five high fidelity prototyping but you can also do wire framing you can also do other types of sort of your usual kinds of diagramming with boxes and lines that kind of thing and these are all embedded in a confluence you whilst you've installed the add-on the experience is all within confluence and it feels like a really integrated experience you may also like to brainstorm which is a really important part of a visiting and my maps are a great way to do that as well so these add-ons are all available today to bring these different practices integrated into your project space so then you want to get into more detailed planning and then when meetings are really important capturing the actions and getting things moving making it really clear what the plan is to the broader company and and stakeholders and so confluence has more blueprints or templates for that for tracking meetings and also on the right there what we call an index page where all the meetings are rolled up and this is another really important reason why it's a good idea to start creating more spaces you know create a space for a project so then you can quickly navigate to all the meetings that relate to that particular project but they're also visual aspects to confluence as well and here is the roadmap macro that is part of confluence and you can quickly draw up plans to communicate what the schedule is going to be to project stakeholders which they can then collaborate with provide feedback on and it could be D planned or it could be also when you re plan we went recently we recently reviewed a project internally we had a couple of options as to which way we could dive to go a few options do we completely paralyze the project or do we change resourcing that kind of thing and so we we could really quickly create three or four of these roadmaps just to show the different scenarios and then we went ahead with the chosen one and that was the one that was published so these are just some ways that confluence can help collaborate within the project team but then communicate the apt outcome to a broader set of stakeholders an add-on that has just been shipped to the marketplace is an estimation add-on and planning poker in particular and so this helps bring agile practices into your project but you may ask well hang on should we be using software for everything but what's really great about when we capture these processes in this way is that there is a record in confluence that people can see but also as is common for many of you I'm sure having teams across the globe and in different countries this helps facilitate those processes even though your teams are not all in the one place at the one time and yet your content is then we get on to executing the project integration with JIRA for confluence really comes to the fore I mean there's a blueprint for requirements in confluence out of the box so you can create a table for each of your requirements and then generate JIRA issues and that link remains live and that there's a table on your confluence page which is dynamically updated with the status of your issues you know when you paste a JIRA issue link in a page it will maintain that status and this can be a really good way of not only communicating the work within the team but also stakeholders who come in they see the texts to the project and they also see the activity that's happening in JIRA that relates to the project so what we have here is an example of a retrospective add-on and this is really it's really important right to not just leave one project and go straight on to the next but to really retrospect and learn so that we can take the learnings from each project and get better at executing projects and so this add-on is showing a process where a team is as has brainstormed and then grouped and voted on some ideas from what went well and what didn't go well and then the final result is a summary of the actions that need to be taken but also the outcome of the retrospective overall it's there it's in the space there for learning for later and ready to review when the next project starts so that's the software project and let me just quickly cover the reference documentation room so as Brian mentioned it little earlier this is really a use case where there are a few people creating the content but there are a much larger number of people who are consuming the content they're referring to it a lot and when I say reference document documentation I don't necessarily mean technical as in API Docs that kind of thing but also just policies procedures any kind of documentation where there are a lot of readers and improvers are really important so an add-on that's just recently shipped to the marketplace is kamala approvals just show a quick example of it here so this add-on is extending compliments in the byline that little bit of gray text just under the title you can assign reviewers to a page and so particularly in important documents where you need a large group of approvers it facilitates that process as well and it really helps with the workflow of that approval it also includes integration with HipChat so that people can be up to date with the approval status of documents so that's the technical use cases or rooms I'm gonna hand it back to Brian now to talk about something a bit more customer oriented thanks man so customer projects again confluence is a great offering for software teams of course but it's also great for other business teams and other organizations within your company so I'll show an example of an add-on that's actually for customers who actually manage clients so that's Atlas CRM made by a VC so you can actually create the concept of a company within that company you can track issues and pages this could be meeting notes or discussions that you've had invoices you can click through to these you can actually again in the byline add things like contacts so if you just had a conversation with Jason here you can go in and add some information saying that he's the new point of contact for the Acme corporation and again this is a really great way to bring everyone in your organization within into confluence doesn't necessarily just need to be for software developers now another important aspect of working on client relationships is handling files and go ahead go edit another add-on is a great example of how you can do this within confluence you can upload things like PowerPoint Microsoft Word go in edit them right within confluence go ahead and save it and then it will update within your space so you don't to worry about version control so you don't have presentation v50 to or anything like that you all just have the most recent version right there in confluence again this is a great way to make confluence a hub for how you manage and deal with clients and customers ok so the last of our rooms is community community is really about bringing everything together like I said before it's all about things like the wallpaper the design the colors the look and feel of your house or your space so you this could be a bedroom someone over in Sydney a beautiful bridge here but it's really getting these custom decorations and making the space your own and we're really excited today that one of the most popular types of add-ons on server is theming and this is now available today in cloud which we're really excited about so refine the theme is going to in a public beta in the next coming weeks I'm going to show you what that looks like it looks a little different than what you typically see in confluence of course this could be a team knowledge space that's designed around a product that you're working on you can change the layout the color here's another example of an HR space slightly different you have a search bar right front and center at the top because people are coming like for reference documentation to consume things and look things up and to build one of these seems it's really simple you have this theme builder where you can pick the colors the layout the structure of it and once you do that it only takes a few clicks to actually change your space so this HR space we're going to go ahead and apply a theme to it you go ahead and activate refine theme you choose the theme that you want to apply it comes with a few custom ones that you can choose from or the ones you've created on your own now we have this beautiful lime-green theme I can go in and change the layout and again there are templates that can help you do this and I just chose the advanced one and again we just turned that typical confluence page into this beautiful HR space and then the theme header and color scheme goes through all the pages so it's a really seamless experience for a run on your team and it's not just one page or the other so we just went through all of our rooms we talked about all the furnitures so just this very boring floorplan now has furniture everywhere we've put colors on the wall our home is really starting to come together and feel like our dream home we mentioned a lot of add-ons today but there are plenty more there are new ones coming in and it's growing rapidly so I encourage everyone to go to our marketplace and look at the confluence cloud add-ons keep checking back every month because there's always exciting new stuff happening okay so we have our foundation we've created spaces that are targeted to our needs we've added add-ons into each of them to help enhance our team's ability to get stuff done but now let's talk about how you can really take your team's productivity to a whole new level by doing do-it-yourself projects like now like I said at the beginning I am NOT is not me I'm not good shouldn't trust me with a hammer or saw so I'm going to hand it back over to Ben and he's going to talk about how you can do this okay thanks Brian I don't know if you should trust me with a story though it is time to roll our sleeves up and talk about just those sick times when you need to want to add that extra bit of customization to your complement space so why would you want to DIY firstly we've talked about a lot of the good integrations that are available in the marketplace but you might be using a system a third party product or even one that's just internal and need to integrate that so that you can continue to have all that collaboration happening in one place in confluence you might find that your teams are creating the same content again and again or you may your decision process may not be quite the same as what the decision blueprint that comes with confluence is like so you can build your own blueprints or templates to automate that content creation and thirdly you may want to build and solve for your own purposes your own use cases I'm going to go into more of an advanced example for that in this next section so how do I get started the details of making an addon start with only it really is going to be really good technical here with the way of describing an add-on which is in a format called JSON which is a JavaScript object notation that's what that stands for to develop an add-on and the two stacks that we most often see use here are no js' or java using the spring-break framework and thirdly you need to run the add-on and really all you need to do that is to spin up a confluence instance and use a tool like in grok which basically lets your add-on the service be seen by that cloud instance then you need to host if you're following good engineering practices your codes already in bit bucket but if not put it in there now and then push it to a host like a roku vertically is a really good one to get quickly started with because you're just basically get pushed to Heroku and then you can run the service there and then and then you can list it on the marketplace and it's really important to note with a marketplace listing is that it doesn't have to be public so if you're building an add-on just for trying it out or for using it within your company you can create a private marketplace listing and then install it in cloud instances and get going that way but if you do want to share it it's entirely optional you can do that and you can create a more of a public listing you can put it out there it doesn't have to be supported if you're if you're just being community oriented or you can actually sell it on the marketplace as many of the vendors who are getting behind that effort are displaying in the main room here so let's get to it I thought we'd go through 32 DIY projects for confluence here I think we have time when's the Bryan wins the event tonight that's all seven so we've got sounds it's time awesome alright just let's just sit back actually no we're just Israel will get into three so project one is integrating external content so we have talked about a number of the really cool ways you or cool systems that you can integrate with through add-ons but what if you need to integrate with something else so confluence has this concept called macros which means you can extend from within a page from within a page you can have this widget that is integrating with an external system and displaying that content which shown a few examples of already so let's look behind let's look at an example first and then we'll look behind the scenes so let's say your HR team and you're doing like a lightweight recruiting drive and you want to look at some LinkedIn profiles so there's a pretty cool looking dude there we're going to pace his profile in for that page and a slightly geeky looking guy there we'll paste in there too and you see it sort of converting those links to a macro and then when we save the page we'll see that the compliments is going to render more than just a link but more of a card with a bit of extra information still going to act like a link we can click through to those profiles but it but it really just encouraged to the experience of that page and we know from from just broad-brush analytics that a lot of different domains are pasted into confluence LinkedIn being one of them so this is one way to enhance that the usage of those links with macros so behind the scenes I said JSON and this is what JSON looks like and the point of this is not for you to read it all just to see that's all it is like it's just a file around that size if we do drill in just a little bit further you see it says dynamic content macro is so that's saying hey this is an add-on and it's a macro and here's a few more details about it but then we get into the development and so you can see from the tree structure on the left-hand side it's a node application it's not that big as if you follow some files and drilling into that we can see this is the part of a node application that's saying hey this is where I'm actually displaying that card so let me respond to that request and give the HTML to render for that card and then we need to actually provide that content so in this case it's using handlebars so this is just some HTML we have a few evaluation of the values that would have come back from the call to the LinkedIn API so can we do it yes we can I mean lever points like that maybe at this time but we have links to the code here that's the code from the actual project they've just gone through and also a link to a tutorial on the developer Alaskan comm site that takes you through a getting started with macros that's very similar and we also put these links in the app so the summer apps or if you're in there as well so just in case you seriously writing something down but yeah we'll put all the information there so you can have a look at the code whenever you like right project two so in elation we are really proud of the culture we have and the best practices we follow and some of those practices include how we start projects and how we we try to ask the right questions and we call those project posters so it's a bit of us excerpt from a project poster blueprint and we also run health checks if you see the guys walking around in white coats they're not mad scientists at least ya know they might not mad scientist and they're promoting how we run health monitors and those kinds of practices inside of the lasya so we have a blueprint flow for those as well so let's just dive straight behind that once again it's a descriptor as we call it and we'll drill NME cieaned its instead of saying on a macro saying I'm a blueprint and then it we can then drill into the development code behind that we can see that this little node app once again is saying hey here's the template that you can start the page with and here's another action that happens triggered when the when the page is actually created because you can't just you don't you have the option to not just initialize a page with static content but you could pull values from other places you could create like an operational report that's bringing in latest copies of metrics that could then be used in meetings and all sorts of use cases like that and then of course there's the content so in this case it is HTML but it has some special markups you'll see the placeholder reference there because confluence understands this is storage format special markers that say hey this is that grayed out text so when the page is created the users can go in and click and replace all of that and type in what what the template is intending them to put in at that point right so can we build it yes we can so here's another link to the code of that very example and once again a link to a related tutorial for building blueprints on developer Alaskan Khan website so our third project is building your own content and this is where we're getting into a little bit more intermediate slash advanced territory so how many people here use conference questions quick so we've got a few across there so converse questions is a great way to bring a different kind of collaboration into confluence where people can post questions and get answers and then as a uploading of answers and selection of the right answer all of that kind of thing as well as content comments and you can think of that as a simple hierarchy of content types and question is a type of content answer is a type of content that lives under questions and comments lives under the above two and that is what the content platforming complements how how it models that and then creates some great experiences or a great way to integrate your own concepts into con so one example is let's say I want to build I just want to track the customers I work with and I want to put notes against those customers can I actually build an add-on that can integrate with confluence to do that for my team and the answer is yes and this this is exactly what it would look like so you can see over here you've got pages and blogs on the left-hand side but all of a sudden we now have customers as well and so when you when you add that add-ons a confluence it automatically integrates into the user experience in this way so here we have the result when we click on customers and the add-on has complete control over the right-hand side so they've rendered a list of customers here and then I can click through to a customer and add a note to it to where my add-ons rendered that part on the right-hand side so why would you integrate this with confluence well one of the really great advantages of that is not just the integration with navigation but then when I search so I'm searching for a page if I typed in one of those customer names the customer would come up in the search results and compliments as well and then if I clicked on that it would go straight through to the page for that customer so it's a really tightly integrated experience and your add-on doesn't have to do any of that complements just does that by knowing about these concepts when you've when you've built the add-on on the platform so behind the scenes it's a little bit a little bit more complex but here's just the definition saying here we've got this custom content type and it's called customers and here is where we're saying hey there's these views this is this is defining the right-hand side this is how we're going to display the customers page and here are those pages and the parts of the note application that are going to tell confluence here's the view here's what to render so it's not a lot of code once again even though there's a little bit more hooking up in the descriptor in this case this is a react application rather than handlebars so we have once again content here which is HTML and then it's including the values that comes from the react state which ultimately is stored in confluence one of the other benefits of a some content add-on is your add-on doesn't have to store data you don't have a database you can just store it into confluence which is how it can do all that search integration and so really just developing a bit of a front-end and then integrating it into confluence and then you have an application so can we build it yes so here's another link to the very code that we're just showing here so you can get going with that and the tutorial on our site on our developer to lesson dog home site is actually building that very application so you could go away from here and actually build that app in a day so well less than a day I think we've got an hour on the tutorial but just assuming you want to you're getting going and learning if you were the other development related concepts there have a go so these are just three examples of projects I probably could get 33 together if I really wanted to and anyone would be willing to sit through that but there's just so many ways you can extend confluence and there are a number of different patterns for building on the confluence platform including theming which we're really proud to announce here and also you can interact with confluence via REST API so you can automate content creation maybe push pull if you're not wanting to create an addon inside a confluence and confluence api's are available for creating reading updating deleting spaces pages security related functions a lot of things so that's all on that same developer Atlassian comm website so feel free to have a look at that and learn how you can optimize your spaces so having done our DUI and wrote our sleeves up and they're going to hand back to Brian to sum up the benefits of making confluence your dream home awesome thanks Ben so when you go back to your your team's I think there's a few things that would be great to keep in mind think of your confluence spaces as a home you want your home to be somewhere where people feel comfortable collaborating their structure they know how to get around and it's really important that you take the time to help them be successful so to summarize spaces are like rooms be intentional have multiple spaces design them for what you're actually trying to achieve check out all the add-ons that available are available in the marketplace these can really enhance your team's productivity and bring everyone within your organization into confluence you have one true content hub for your team and check out some of the tutorials that Ben just showed I know we gave you a lot of links and as Ben said they'll be available in the app for you to see but explore that try it out we've seen a lot of teams that we've talked to be really successful at building these so on behalf of myself been in the whole confluence team thanks so much for coming here today we really appreciate it okay we've got time for two or three questions here so we do have a microphone here at the top but I'll take the first one that I can see a hand up if anybody has a question oh I'm still like hi there were you the link you posted for developers is that the best place to get started with the confluence API I'm sorry I didn't get the fist visit question yet you had posted a link where you also have the tutorial is is that the best place to go to get started with confluence API on the home page of the confluence documentation there is also a link under the reference section to the REST API reference so I would go to that initial link of slash comp cloud and then you'll see reference and API reference as a link there so in terms of which API so you can work with great thank you okay all the way across here there's someone at the monkey to do the one on the mic there and welcome to this one I'm just wondering if it's still the case that the Alaskan Connect api's are only available to cloud customers and if so what kind of limitations does that put on add-on development for server so the all the rest API is are common between the cloud and server so the ability to automate the connect framework itself in terms of that way of extend compliments is specific to kraut and so the strategy we recommend is to build around connect and then port to server or if you are building straight for server like a lot of those front-end concepts are the same one of the limitations is that the framework for server is Java based so you need to create like a Java macro or a java blueprint that kind of thing so a lot of the concepts are the same but the stacks you would use to create it are slightly different hey there so you mentioned building your dream house but one of the issues that we have is we have a confluence that now has over 50 spaces in it we've had people who came in over the past four years we cycled through a bunch of different admins and so now we have this situation where we have spaces that have hundreds of pages that have page restrictions all over the place it's like a tornado came through and just ruined everything how do you recommend getting back to a place where we can start with a clean foundation and build up from there again yeah yeah that's always a tough situation to be in I think you can always archive things and try to start creating new spaces and be intentional I think it's never too late to start trying to implement some of these best practices of course once you've devoted a lot of time and energy to this it's very difficult to change that but I think that's what I would recommend I don't know if there's anything you - yeah I mean you know you can always start with like I think one of the big messages here is we're saying start create more spaces so the first one's going to be hard because you know have maybe have one space that has ten projects in it and it might feel a bit unusual to say create a space for that next project but I think it's just doing that it's really just taking that step and then over time it searches they're going to search across all of those spaces and then really just start to create that that different kind of culture okay anymore I'm this room is very large so I'm looking to see if there's any other questions at one so what is the best way to manage requirements inside confluence like what are your suggestions and the add-ons to that in terms of requirements management that a lot of that can be done just in in confluence it if I believe there are some add-ons you might want to explore in terms of behavior driven development if you're into that kind of thing but you can use just a table even in compliments or multiple pages if if you create I spoke with a customer already this week who talked about having really large specs and should I create one really long page and you know I think it's it can be useful sometimes to create more of a structure of pages and k15 tea has an add-on to publish that as a PDF file if you do need to share like one big document which is that big spec with a customer or that kind of thing so there are those kinds of ways of bridging between conference content and a file that you can share and also if you do create requirements in a table there is the ability to just one click create a JIRA issue for each of the rows in that table which is a really cool feature as well okay that's going to be our last question here I actually like to piggyback on the tornado question what if what about creating a sandbox and working off of that to start fresh with a fresh coat of paint when it comes to creating and cleaning up the spaces that he's talking about would that work and as far as the links and so forth I mean how would we make be able to manage that yeah I mean to start get the ball rolling you mean like creating a new space yeah I think like we've said every team's a little different and what how they like best practices we've talked through some of these things but it's a pretty safe way to get feedback from the rest of the team and what seems to be working and what's not and then once you find something that seems to click you can then roll it out so you're not setting yourself up for another tornado storm six months down the road and just as a note we do have a lot of experts or over in the Expo Center that would be probably very happy to help you get that cleaned up as well yeah and Bend myself and a bunch of the confluence team are over in the product pod area so please stop by and we can us and the rest of the team can help out okay thank you Brian here and we got our next talk is over in this track is in 212 with saving money by optimizing your cloud add-on infrastructure so if you want to learn about AWS lambda that's interesting to you hope to see you over in 212 I hope you're having a great thing a great conference and we'll see you soon