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hey guys it's Sebastian from ask Sebby and today we are going to look at the first five credit cards you should get if you are someone who wants to eventually travel before we dive in a big favor is to give this a thumbs up it doesn't cost you anything at all and it's probably one of the easiest ways to support the channel in this video we're going to run through two different paths one that is the mathematical best path with Chase and the other one assumes that you don't like chase or you're banned by Chase one final word of caution is that if you are someone new to this and a lot of these terms are cards and stuff are very confusing I'd recommend going to the blog post down below and having that and following along for me at least I find that when I have a visual aid especially if it's something that I've learning that's very new to me it helps a lot more so regardless of the two paths that you are looking to take the first card you should get is either going to be a student card or secured card this can be from your credit union this can be from any other issue where my main recommendation here is to find something that does not have an annual fee in the long term or can be graduated into something that doesn't have an annual fee we have a bunch of videos on student cards and secured cards but for this purpose it doesn't really matter too much just pick something that works for you in the long term this can be from Capital One Discover or Bank of America or City those are probably that means for that I would recommend and just pick the one that makes you happiest and they all work pretty well in the long term so some people might be wondering why I'm not talking about this first card as much and the big thing is I've seen a lot of people get stuck on this and I think it's a very dumb thing to get stuck on which one should I get six months later I'm still not sure which one to get you'd be surprised at how many people message me on Instagram telling me that they're still considering which card to get and it turns into this whole analysis paralysis situation side note follow our Instagram asks Evie so if you are going down the chase path then after getting the secured card or student card or credit union card you would want to have it for about twelve months before you start applying for chase cards I've seen people do this in a shorter amount of time I've seen some people do it in six months and I've even seen people go right into the Chase Sapphire reserve with no other credit history but it really does depend on your income there so for example for someone who's making 80 or $100,000 then you probably don't need as much time with that secured card if you're someone coming from London as an investment banker when you're making 200 or 300 thousand dollars you can probably go right into the Chase Sapphire preserve for normal people though you have that card wait about 12 months and then afterwards you would want to apply for one of chases starter cards and this is either going to be the freedom card or the freedom unlimited one of the big benefits here too is that it doesn't really matter which one you select because you can easily swap between each of these cards and there's no cost to its you generally still want to have it for at least one year first when you first sign up for it but I don't really think they're going to care because it's not like you're trying to abuse the system so for example let's say you had the freedom card right now and you realize that you don't really like dealing with five expat categories you can actually do a product change into the freedom unlimited so for most people that's going to be card number two and you can pick the one that makes the most sense there after having that first chase card for one to three months you would generally want to get either the Chase Sapphire Preferred or the Chase Sapphire Reserve Chase Sapphire Preferred makes more sense to me if you or someone who makes less than $35,000 if for someone who wants to stock up on those points and you're not travelling yet or if they're someone who's not really sure whether they even want to go down that travel path the reason for this is because you can easily product change into the Chase Sapphire Reserve and you're number two if that card makes more sense for you and with the Chase Sapphire Preferred you actually have a higher bonus at 60,000 points as an intro bonus compared to 50,000 points with the Chase Sapphire Reserve I'll put some math up on the screen but it's something that I've said in the past a few times even if you are someone who realizes that they don't want to travel mathematically you're still netting five hundred and five dollars by hitting that intro bonus and cashing out those points so five hundred and five dollars in your pocket for spending four thousand dollars that you were going to spend anyways Chase Sapphire Reserve makes sense for me if you are putting a lot of spend on that card or if you need the benefits of that card easy examples of this is if you need priority pass with restaurants so if you're out of somewhere like Portland then this priority pass is better than some other options that we'll talk about once you move into the mid game or the late game if you are someone deciding between both of these cards I'd recommend playing with the calculator for this we have a later that helps you make that decision a bit easier it's going to be in the description box down below and feel free to use it and share it with anyone else who's curious so that's going to be the third card and the reason for this is because you have a lot of flexibility you have no annual fee down great paths which make it very easy to justify in the long term and the final thing too is that it starts the clock a lot earlier so with the Sapphire card so Chase Sapphire Preferred in to preserve you can only get an intro bonus for those cards once every four years this can obviously change in the future but as of right now per the terms it's a 48 month rule so if you're playing by the terms and starting that clock sooner rather than later just makes more sense to me given that for these other traced cards it's actually going to be a 24 month clock pause if you are someone who can get chase ink business cards then now is going to be the time to get them while you're still under 5 24 and these are pretty good options you can easily get a hundred and eighty thousand points if you go through all the ink cards if you do this I'd recommend putting between one to three months between these applications and maybe even putting in some of the personal cards and splicing them in between for normal people who can't get business cards though you have two remaining slots for 5:24 and also two remaining cards for the first five cards the easiest way to think of it is going to be as a box where you have a lot of different options and you want to pull out the two that make the most sense for me there's going to be five main options that make sense for most people but it really does depend on you and how you'd like to travel in the airport that you're based out of the first one and this is an easy obvious one is going to be the freedom or the freedom unlimited basically the one that you skipped out on if you're someone who can't get business cards and I would probably skip out on this just because there's a lot of ways to replace those cards especially the freedom unlimited on the business side another option is going to be the world of higher card the mean advantages is that the intro bonus is very strong it works really well whether you or someone who wants to do aspirational trips or whether you are looking to do a lot of road trips throughout the US so the fact that the points are very versatile is a very big win to me and also the fact that it probably has a strongest anniversary night of the hotel cards this to me makes it very easy to justify whether you are someone who has very low income and you aren't really trying to spend as much or trying to save as much money as possible or if you're someone who has a lot of business spent or you just spend a lot of money and you really want to get globalist status and this is something that we've talked about in another video about people who have very ridiculously high spends another option is going to be the United card and this one is going to be pretty good if you are someone who is in a United hub and you wants a good intro bonus as well as a downgrade path for some people this actually becomes pretty interesting because it might make sense to upgrade it back to that annual fee card if you start flying more for domestic stuff a good example of this is it for someone who skis or snowboards and you are flying to a place like Denver and SFO to Denver that's a very normal busy route and that ends up saving you on trucks bags if you don't have status with United then this can be pretty helpful and can probably save you a few hundred dollars depending on how many times you're heading out there Southwest priority card is pretty good for the intro bonus and the fact that it's probably the best Southwest card of the bunch it is going to be a bit more expensive than those other options but it's more of a keeper card given the effective value of the perks are getting every year relative to the annual fee so unlike a lot of other cards you don't downgrade to a no annual fee card here you've actually upgrade to the priority card because that gives you the highest net expected value the mariette bond void bandless card is pretty good if you want to intro bonus and you want a card that has an anniversary Nate that's relatively easy to use as well as a downgrade path into a no annual fee card eiji premier is pretty much there for that intro bonus but it does lean a lot more towards aspirational trips IHG points aren't really good for domestic stuff in my experience it's really good for places like Bora Bora there's also a no annual fee down gray path into the IHG traveler there's obviously other cards here as well that you can pull from but those are going to be the most competitive ones to me at least on that note if you are someone looking to learn about any of these cards a very easy way to support the channel would be to use the links that are on our website asks a Beacom or the ones down below in the description box so the reason that there are so many of these Chast cards within that optimal first set up is because mathematically if you are someone who wants to get all the value on the table then that's technically what you should do if you get four random Nantes cards first then you're locking herself out of Chase for no reason and the four cards that you want to get you can easily get them in the mid game the easiest way to think of it is you can get either those four random cards first or you can get the four chaste cards probably down great some of them and then afterwards get the four other cards that you wants obviously up to you though but for me I'm going to recommend not leaving money on the table if you are someone who does not like chase or you're banned by Chase or you just don't care about them and you don't want to wait to get under 5:24 which is something that I typically don't recommend anyways then there are going to be a lot of other options the thing here is that there's not really any right answers because it really does depend on the setups that you want to run and also how you like to travel if you or someone who has a lot of assets and I might make sense to run the Bank of America 100k setup just because that gets a pretty good value for someone who really likes city then it might make sense to run a city trifecta just because there's a lot of value there as well for me I'm going to walk through what cards I would consider given the options that are available but be aware that there's just a lot of choices here as long as you're making an educated choice that makes sense for you given what you're looking to achieve then that's going to work out one final disclaimer is that I would recommend not getting American Express cards in the first five cards just because it makes more sense as a mid gamer ends game setup given how American Express cards tend to work I'll try to be quick here but the main reason is because American Express tends not to care about your velocity or your enquiries or any of that stuff I've known people who have 12 cards in the last 24 months or 20 cards in the last 24 months who still happily get approved very easily for American Express cards so if that said let's dive into the four cards I would consider the first one is going to be the capital one venture card the reason for this is because Capital One tends to be very picky with people once you have too many new accounts are too many new enquiries so getting that locked in right now just makes a lot of sense in the past the venture card wasn't that competitive just because it didn't have the ability to transfer points out to partners so it was pretty much a worse Chase Sapphire Preferred card it still earned 2x but the 2 X was really just 2% and that wasn't that interesting but right now you do have the ability to transfer your points out to partners the rates are a bit lower than some competing cards but I think it still makes sense given that many people have the ability to downgrade this into the venture one card which is no annual fee card and also because Capital One seems to be very very very friendly with these retention offers this means when the annual fee hits who give them a call and often times they end up just waiving that annual fee it's a good intro bonus downgrade path as was the fact that you can transfer these points out to partners and also because Capital One seems to be working on improving their cards and giving more tangible benefits to people that's a pretty big win to me so that's going to be the first two cards the next one I would consider adding is going to be Barclays just because it's another Bank that you would probably want to get a relationship with and you do have a few different choices there I'd probably either go with an American Airlines card just because American Airlines points tend to be very powerful for these international aspirational type trips or the JetBlue plus card be aware that Barclays doesn't always offer downgrade paths even though the cards have logical downgrade paths so that's a bit annoying but I think their offerings are pretty interesting in the most case and you might as well get them locked in given that they have a 6:24 role another way to think of this is that the Barclays card is pretty much your airline card that makes sense and if it doesn't then you can move on to another card the final two cards I would add for myself would be city cards so I'd probably add either the prestige card or the premier card depending on which one made more sense to me at that time probably run it through a calculator and then I would add an American Airlines card the city thank you earning cards tend to be pretty good for the ability to earn points so that works out pretty well and then for American Airlines again the points tend to be pretty powerful for aspirational trips the big draw here is that these cards have a lot of Garon great paths so you have a lot of play here and the fact that the points that you're earning are pretty powerful if you don't like those options and I think a few other ones I would consider would be the US bank altitude Reserve card which is a bit interesting because it's in flux right now and then another option would be the Bank of America cards you have a lot of play here whether you are someone who wants to fly Alaska or whether you once setup that works for a lot of different categories the travel rewards and cash rewards card works out really well especially if you have more than $100,000 with Bank of America or Merrill Lynch the Alaska card is pretty good just because those points do work really well for a lot of very cool airlines and if you hate all of those options you can obviously move to American Express but I feel like with American Express there are some other strategies as well there that I'll probably talk about in a future video the main things I'd recommend focusing on would be not leaving money on the table so making sure that you're getting the maximum value possible building relationships with different issuers especially ones that tends to be a bit more annoying and then also finding cards that have downgrade paths that way you're protecting your credit score in the long term as a reminder if you do want to learn about any of these cards or pretty much any other cards a very easy way to support a channel would be using links that are on our website ask see be calm or the ones down below in the description box make sure the links are competitive and that's they aren't worse than other offers we can find just because I want to make sure that you guys are getting a good deal my question for you guys is what were your first five cards let me and the community know in the comments down below if you liked the video give it a thumbs up it really helps us out if you know anyone else who'd benefit from what we just talked about share this with them it'll probably help them out but otherwise hope you guys liked it see you guys next time