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[Music] so we figured um we're gonna do an episode on skateboard graphics first couple boards were back probably in 2004 2005 we hired brandon as our first illustrator so he did some of the very first boards for tony hawk stuff like that so we'll show some of those in the stack i like to say brandon's are the backbone of of lincoln just because he kind of back in the day set the vibe yep set the tone of you know tough aggression yeah there wouldn't be a lot of half of these skateboard graphics if it wasn't for brandon and his style so yeah it's uh it's been great at the same time we've started dealing with other companies that kind of wanted a more vector feel so it kind of ended up you know the whole spectrum of design yeah as far as skateboard graphics so totally yeah it's cool i mean you've done a bunch of boards i've done a bunch of boards yeah once they started wanting some graphic stuff it's like okay like let's go i got this so yeah yeah so so back in 2010 2011 i think is where this file goes back to throwback um yeah we had we're super deep in the skateboard industry and skateboard graphics and we were working with a bunch of different companies and so i was continuing trying to compile this uh file of all the boards we've ever done um so we started to build a book out of it and we were going to call it the eighth ply this was kind of the very first uh first draft of it just to kind of get a uh get a rough rough idea down on paper so we printed this out double check everything i like to say we were probably servicing about half of the industry between all the brands uh so yeah to make a book out of it i feel like it would be pretty strong to show showcase half of the industry in one book you know each board each company like they all have a different story different style different creative director behind the brand and each one was handled like as a totally different project totally different client whether it was plan b or zero and mystery like two totally different processes and uh and kind of people that we dealt with on it so we do logo mayhem we're talking about we're gonna do illustration mayhem it'd be amazing to flip this book into some skate mayhem skateboard mayhem and that'd be great and bring this book to life you know it's been like you said 10 years yeah we'll probably have to update about half of it yep you know to put all the new in there definitely but to probably sell 20 of these compared to you know 200 of the logo yeah yeah that's the thing yeah all you designers out there yeah you know this is where it's all at if anything i think we've got to start with this board yeah because that goes back to design yeah if we're going to suck in any graphic designers they're going to like this i think if they took graphic design history in their community college this is like the first thing you learned about uh yeah yeah that's that's a good one that um so birdhouse skateboards we're doing a bunch of work with tony hawk and birdhouse so this was obviously a reference from um sal bass saw bass uh what's that anatomy of a murderer or something or other so that movie poster this came to us from matt ball um who was pro skater for bird house so he he was a big fan of that movie wanted that board so you know basically there's a ton of uh parodies done in the skate industry for uh for board graphics you just said parody so i just i saw this one on the top yeah i'll bring this up yeah classic you know chris cole plan b mighty short yep nintendo uh duck hunter yeah yeah graphic that's that's a good one yeah so this was this was a four board series each guy had a different gun based on their personality yeah you know so they kind of got to pick the gun that uh that was on their board and then davey you know did all these illustrator all vector files super detail yeah so one little piece he added in there that wasn't in the brief is this uh that little piece in the background that looks like a target practice or a target yeah and with the letters in there like he yeah he went above and beyond with that piece yeah i think turned out good real quick back to parodies since when i just saw this on top this is probably my this is dustin's favorite word ever yeah like licking this is uh oh man here let me find it i'll find it up here on screen because yeah there's like four or five of these so before i even started with dan however many eons ago it was a series i worked at a different skate shop and i ripped this board off i copied the copy it was nowhere near as good but then i got a job with him and then i realized they did this originally so i was like oh man this is a perfect fit like i was uh just copying your guys's stuff so that's funny yeah this is good there it is look at that so there's a four board series as well as we did the illustration on the right for uh um for advertising for plan b so i mean even with the the pop the snap it's like perfect for skating so it's like yep i don't know i'm a sucker sucker sucker for type right uh two of the first clients we ever dealt with in the skate industry one was birdhouse and tony hawk the other one was real um so this was pretty much brandon's first board i'm pretty sure so nice um there might have been a hawk board before this but this was one of his first boards and then they on the top they did the full top graphic of it so tight i mean so real is pretty much the i don't know the most classic brand of all time never sold out yeah even your favorite brand sold out at some point so this is like the epitome of the best skate brand even peter mendetta board like yeah for brandon to have done that that is you know iconic so yeah he was hyped because brandon skates a little bit here and there and uh he was super hyped yeah one time at the old office we're just hanging out in the back uh brandon's walking to his car and he's like give me your board and i'm like all right cool puts it on the ground yeah first try kick flip gets off hand me my boards and just walks off and i'm like what the hell like who is this guy like you know i barely knew him and uh he's a sleeper yeah you know and he'll also grab the guitar and throw down a riff and get down on the guitar yeah yeah he's the guy yeah he's he's good um so what else we got we're just going to start going through the stack here yeah we'll start pulling graphics this is good nothing too crazy we we pulled it out because i think chris joslin got this tattooed on his bicep super massive that's right pretty gnarly demaso uh yeah them also did that board which that thing's it's gnarly yeah so they call him the wolverine so it's basically the wolverine claws ripping through yeah there's pretty much nothing better when you get a board picked and then if it ends up on a freaking tattoo of a guy that's pretty much the top i would say second is if you get a tech deck uh big tech deck guy over here yeah so we've tried to uh collect a lot of the uh a lot of the tech decks that we've done for for board companies so like so we have the big graphic and the small graphic which is kind of cool this one's at the top here we got tommy sandoval so san diego's finest yep zero skateboard so zero mystery were uh run by jamie thomas in black box so black box was a distribution company that housed zero uh mystery and a bunch of other shots ended up being fallen footwear was underneath black box so we were we're super hyped to um to actually get involved with these guys because ben horton um he's an artist you can kind of jump online right forgot about him yeah ben horton's the so if you jump online he does a lot of stuff for ruka right now but he was kind of the art director behind zero and mystery for a while yeah he didn't have his own brand slave or something like that slave yeah eventually he had slave yeah so and the slave's still around yeah if you guys check out slave skateboards it's pretty dope yeah illustration layout type everything's great colors he's he's legit yeah ben was great so they brought us in basically they were too busy um to keep up on the board graphics so they brought us in to in a way match ben's style so brandon was able to do that yeah at the same time we did some other graphics that weren't in his style but yeah the point was hey we need you guys to pick up the the workload for ben yep and some of the other guys there and kind of jump in and match the zero mystery style so yeah and brandon's good at you know if you need to compliment anyone's style like brandon's gonna figure it out and kill it you know yeah and so so with those like zero boards then we were able to do a bunch of mystery boards so this is the copper tone uh parody yep coppertone uh some sunscreen so brandon graphic as well for mystery and back in the day mystery skateboards was only they were only doing black and white yep i remember that boards which made it sick yeah even the white dip i know it's kind of taboo in the skate world but boy it looks good from a graphic design standpoint yeah like that looks nice you know but uh yeah yeah real skaters don't like it right but it looks tight and then this whole series was each guy had a different basically a different car yep um ryan smith wanted a motorcycle so brandon did i think there is seven six seven yeah yeah six or seven all pulled up here different um different cars that that went with that series so yeah some of these boards are a little older so it's actually pretty fun to kind of go through them and check out what's going on and shoot this board used to be by the bathroom at the old office oh yeah yeah and i used to just walk every time i'd walk to the the pisser kevin stop like staring at this thing look at the type like i'm gonna hit this other camera look at this type right here dude what like out of this yeah the scales of the snake type dude yeah and staub's uh stops at og so yeah i have a stop board is yeah yeah it's good yeah it was kind of a remake of his one of his super old boards from back in the day so bran i was hyped to work on that oh we're just talking just talking about this that's true look at that yeah all-time favorite there it is yeah i'm just going to sneak out with these sheckler and uh paul rodriguez yeah yep those are good what else we got so uh tony hawk bird house like like i said uh some of the first boards we did were for tony hawk which is pretty pretty gnarly pretty bad we were like that's freaking amazing um got to work directly with tony brandon did a bunch of his boards um pro models and then we went on to do some some birdhouse work at one point we redesigned the birdhouse logo that lasted for about two years and then they went back to their old uh i think that's the b of the reason yeah that is the b on there i want to say this this board is also in tony hawk pro skater one or two i believe which again you know tech decks getting in it's cool a tattoo's cool but also to be in a video game like yeah oh look at the top of that board though that the type's on there oh yeah so that's the redesign that was the the redesign of the birdhouse logo like 2012 13 probably 2012 because you were you were yeah i was there there and yeah i thought that was cool it was something that they they ran for a couple years and then tony at some point was like i want to go back to the old school one yeah what else we got this this series is uh pretty gnarly pretty cool idea so they got some native americans dancing around a fire and i think they're doing like some peyote and uh have a nice you know right it like goes into some hallucinations and uh to an animal face and each board has the different animal face yeah pretty gnarly like uh later we're going to show you a shot we got the nigel one signed up there yeah that thing yeah that thing is crazy yeah nigel actually waited an hour after the demo to sign all the boards i was pretty impressed that's cool yeah for sure yeah uh dimaso did those and that file that photoshop file is pretty gnarly yeah like dimaso did the uh illustration and basically handed that to dustin and he did the type lockup and everything at the bottom so so kind of a little collab yeah i used to have these hanging in my house and all my buds would come over and be like dude sick boards you designed that and you're like yeah not the board but see the little type at the bottom a little piece at the bottom and they're like what that's lame you're like oh that's sick i'm hyped on that um yeah that's you know there's actually a lot of boards um even even with brandon like a lot of times brandon he'll even tell you like he's not super comfortable with developing like more of like logo type i'd say yeah if it's fully hand drawn type cool he's he's super down and super amazing at it but when it comes to uh actually like clean type or like a clean type lockup he's always like hey board's done can you guys you know bang out the type and yeah i mean he's a guy that he could do it i'm sure he just doesn't want to do it you know yeah even talking about type i feel like this is a good example of this type piece here yeah of uh you know something that is in his wheelhouse you know yeah just gonna smash that yeah exactly anything else on this board they got the black ice on here yeah so i don't know if you can tell but it's kind of it's a matte it's a matte print and then on top is the uh there's like a gloss finish which is the black ice from uh from plan b so that board slides super easy what we got this guy oh so this one is fun yeah these have a story so plan plan b uh for every team rider every team rider gets a uh gets basically this gold chain and diamond pendant you know and it's like probably this big yeah inch not too big but it's real diamonds yeah it's gonna be expensive it's legit so they wanted us to to do this series with basically for felipe but then they're like hey if we're going to do this so let's do all the riders because each rider the pendant like the colors and the pendant kind of are whatever they like you know i think danny's is like all black or whatever yeah they kind of each writer had a color back in that time period yeah exactly so um to do this colin mckay actually packaged up a couple of these necklaces and and the chains and the the actual pendant and fedex them down to us and i'm like man i don't want like i don't want to have you know have a hold of these and then this thing ends up getting lost or some so yeah it's a couple grand worth of necklaces you don't want to lose that yeah or more yeah i don't even know so so we basically we had to clip them all out we had to change colors on some of the diamonds and so each board is a separate photo of the actual necklace so yeah i mean if you look at that i think it was the intern at the time bad brad he had to clip out every diamond like that's that's brutal i feel bad for him yeah that's dirty that was shitty because we had to change they didn't have felipes done yet yep so we basically had to take a silver chain in uh and turn it gold and add the diamonds and and everything so and on that board i think we just got a knock at the door one day and there's a courier that shows up delivering the necklace because we were too scared to you know fedex it down because we didn't want to lose it so yeah it's pretty interesting the story behind this board and probably the cost that they paid to get this board made was yeah a bit higher than normal totally just because the courier yeah yeah so there there's a whole series of these and i think they maybe still run those as a carryover yeah i think they do yeah i mean i think when the new guy comes on he gets he gets the chain he gets the you know yeah and the bobblehead which actually on plan b let's uh let's talk about the bobblehead one because uh we got oh there's a couple stories with the bobblehead series here so but these are both basically these two series is uh are like uh pull these up yeah they would every rider would get a bobble head and you're official when you get the bobble head and then when you get the chain those are kind of the two uh so yeah these are both bobble heads uh dan has a more of a original one with pj ladd on there i mean shoot that's 2010 it says on the bottom that's crazy oh it does that's that's throwback and then on this one we got 2015 and i think we did one which uh r.i.p or not really but she's off the team now leticia oh yeah yeah so there's some of them that's the original set that we did yep so tom jones um when i was at dc shoes tom jones was the creative director at dc um then i you know i quit and end of 2004 went on to start a studio but tom stayed for like another year or two uh when danny way and carl mckay brought plan b back they basically hired tom to come on as the art director and basically run the creative and everything in marketing for plan b so i knew tom from from dc he knew i had a studio so he reached out and that's kind of how we got in with plan b um this was one of the first couple uh series of boards we did for him and this was his idea based on i think was the lakers that year um in the nba or something they had a similar kind of photo type thing back to parodies it's just kind of everything's derivative you know so that's just how the skating industry is exactly so brandon drew all the bobble heads each guy got their own um and they turned out great and then as you know as people came onto the team we'd do a new one there was when felipe came on there was like a team basically a team one that they gave him they gave him the normal felipe one and then this so that was kind of cool um yeah we got the joslin one which is a bit newer yeah uh as we started getting like newer the guys would get a couple boards like chris cole i guess he loves the movie scream or no i'm not a movie guy yeah is that the movie yeah um yeah scream yeah he got one with the mask on mask off so those boards we have four of them hanging up there on the on the ceiling we have one of cole with the mask off yeah where he's holding it and then that one um and then we have collins board up there where he signed it so which cole is now also no longer on the team true yeah he's not yep oh but we got to go back to this one so so this so we have this one and we have the uh the bobble head of this one so we would this was hanging on the wall in the old studio and we were standing in the hallway one day yeah was brandon that noticed right and he's the one who ill yeah so brandon did all these illustrations we're standing there this thing's hanging up in the office and we're talking about something whatever and kind of talking about the boards and brandon goes oh and we're like what he's like there's six fingers i drew six fingers on that on uh on pj yeah we're like what he's like yeah look at he's like there's six fingers and sure so pj has six fingers yeah total mistake total mistake brandon had no idea that uh he added that sixth finger and uh like no one knew yeah no one knew no no one until this day i think us has actually really ever noticed and brandon was kind of like oh whatever and i'm like how does that happen yeah and he was like that's just a common mistake as you're drawing fingers especially like this where you have you know you have one that's up and then you have you know the other the thumb down he's like yeah it's a common mistake and illustration to like add a finger i think we brought it up to the to the team manager at the time and he was just laughing and he didn't realize either no one realized you know it's like that's how good of a mistake it was it's pretty funny it's classic so yeah so yeah it's cool because we got the tech deck of that of the six finger pj lad so pretty tight yep a lot of these boards a lot of these companies have a story behind it you know whether you're dealing with colin mckay and danny way on plan b or you know you go to element and you have johnny schilleriff who's running element i mean we have some great stories with him he's been in the studio oh yeah a couple times he's like he's a mastermind creative dude like he yeah yep johnny's got some turning in his head where you're like dude you got you got some ideas yeah and you're brilliant and like i mean i have that one day he came in the studio he was sketching on these big pieces of paper up on our wall of different ideas for like boards and and the company and he was going to move it up to portland and i still have those downstairs because they're dope he's good he's legit i mean back when he started uh yeah i think it was underworld element at the time him and uh um andy howell started that and then they you know he kind of took control of it and just made it what it is today and yeah yeah he's like obviously a legend you know he built a skate park not i mean it's probably 20 hours from here but where's the it's like in montana or idaho oh and idaho legit ass huge skate park so yeah he was gonna move like element or part of element to idaho and and i don't know how that all went down but he's kind of back in socal now yeah and everything you start a new company the heart supply co yeah which they're they're killing it i think they maybe did a bam board recently yeah that we did for them so yeah even his new team is legit like he's got some kids that a bunch of young yeah that are really good i mean even his son is really good you know for sure camp yeah so back to stories you know every board has a story even if it's not a story with the brand there's an internal story like this guy this is one of one of them yeah right triptych we have uh you can hold these other ones up yeah so this is a great piece so nigel during the time was a big party boy probably still is uh the news came and did an interview in front of his house because he was partying so we definitely had to do a series on that but internally davey did these boards and i think it was at the time his first skateboards uh series yeah and he didn't put a bleed on any of the boards just because he didn't know so the art went straight to the edge so we we had to tell them like hey you know visually these are amazing they're gonna they're gonna hit uh but sorry you're gonna have to go put a uh one-inch bleed around the whole board on all three boards you know and they're due tomorrow and uh you know it's five o'clock right now and yeah he probably wasn't super happy but he went home davey style and banged it out like banged it out like a big fatty one-inch bleed around that whole thing so you had to continue kind of her arm up and everything yep so big deal and it's you know it's cropped so tight that you couldn't just make the art a little bit bigger yeah like you had to redraw basically draw the rest of that graphic i mean there's like the arc of the house that kind of matches the board so you can't really you know zoom out and but davey is a you know a machine so he davey style just went home and busted out and banged it out everything was all good the next morning and yeah you know a lot of these boards depending on the graphic um you know we'll start with pencil sketch and then go from pencil sketch to ink get the ink black and white ink approved and then go from ink to color so that's how like basically this one was done a lot of brandon's brandon's like stuff like this will be you know it'll be a super tight sketch um somewhere it's like a blue line yeah which i can show you up here on screen um and then from there that gets approved we'll go he'll go to black and white line art get that approved and from that to color so it's kind of like a three step process you can kind of see up on screen those kind of pencil sketch very tight pencil sketch but pencil sketch first and then you go to what you know black line and then this is full color so that's kind of how how branding works on a lot of these i think there's a couple others too but and then you have boards you know that like i mean you can see on the left there that's that's pencil sketch black you know color so kind of the whole process yeah that's i like that that's nice yeah so then you know then then you have boards that basically like that myself or dustin work on that are more graphic design style whether it's typography or badges or you know simple vector illustrations so this was one this was a series um that was basically type based everybody's name for plan b super sick they used to use this font whatever it is futura but they called it the rush series yeah and every every guy got one so this one is just like a tweak on it that's super awesome yeah this is kind of old now four or five years and just as of late i've been seeing this technique on instagram a lot uh you know yeah so it's just kind of cool because it's resurfacing you know the style for sure how did you do this is that the blend tool no well on the i can't remember yeah it was yeah no it was like line line two line yeah line this line blend it yeah but then you'd have to come back and adjust the just the bottom of it and come on command shift b for all the hotkey guys out there yep and then come in and basically add the shadow to it and everything some of them turned out good some others others are a little better than you know i like it the next one but yeah that was cool there's a i think there's six boards in that series so um but even on i mean what are what are some of the other ones that like you kind of you and i oh so here's a hold on here's a good one dustin can kind of talk about yeah so we uh we always get some random ass ideas uh dan can probably attest to sitting in a meeting or on the phone with a manager and you hear the bong in the background and you don't even know what you're getting into and then they send over the concept that they want the gingerbread man and yeah they want them smoking and it's just super random and that's the kind of stuff that you're like are you sure you want this like okay we can do that but right uh yeah just assume some random funny out there stuff which in the skateboard industry is probably pretty normal yeah they can get away with it you know in any other industry we work in like you're not going to typically see no you know gingerbread man smoking weed you know for a paid project exactly and blind blind have some fun with their graphics the bill we said oh bill east is the kind of behind the brand and uh so he comes up with some he's finding some gnarly ideas so i'd say i'd say probably half the boards we come up with the the brief and the idea the other half the the company creative director owner whoever it is comes to us and goes hey this is what we want or this is what the writer wants um so it all depends on the company but for blind uh bill's coming in and coming in hot with like some crazy funny crazy ideas yeah so i mean i think he's famous for the naked 540 yep yeah he skates naked so like in the 80s sketchy particle board ramp like that's like a splinter waiting to happen oh yeah i get the freaking throne the deuce yeah this is a good one so this is probably uh right on topic with all the toilet paper stuff going down so instead of zeus it's uh it's deuce and uh you know he's he's on the throne this is the kind of stuff that typically at a design agency you're not going to do a lot of this stuff but this this is the yeah we got peter pot here another out there idea pretty funny yeah good good fun stuff coming out at a blind and bill we got the pinocchio [Laughter] so yeah those are always fun when that brief comes through but let's talk about this one dustin because you dustin had this series oh yeah i would not want to be the one working on this bad boy yeah that was a tough one so all basically pick pixel art um for you know ripping off the video games whether it's uh what's called super mario brothers yep you did an excite bike one um so this one was tough because i had to figure out you know how how do you do this you know so you may basically make a grid in illustrator and you can you can use the paint brush tool and fill fill the grid so i had to like spend a night learning how to do it and then yeah then had to actually execute them all so this was another fun one it i don't know it probably took a long ass time one thing i was battling was uh 8-bit versus 16-bit you can see the squares some of them are really small some of them get big yeah i was gonna say you had to i wasn't a big fan of that but they obviously wanted some of the guys to be bigger and you know in the foreground so i had to do it but i mean i think it works and you don't look at it and go oh how come some of those squares are bigger than two others you know um it's easy for me like when i was in the midst of making it you're like i don't know that's against the same size can't do that you know so now in hindsight years later you're like oh yeah it's totally fine you know but sometimes you can get numb and visually blocked when you're just deep in the project so yeah yeah because if it was the legit pixels they'd have to all be the same size and i mean for like again like just to geek out on the skaters like cairo foster dopest dude ever so to do a cairo board right amazing you know what i mean uh shoot i think like a year ago i was skating at the the private nike skate park in here and cairo was there just ripping that's right and in my mind i'm like i did a board for that guy yeah can you sign it yeah i mean i could never tell him i don't want to fan out but in my mind i'm like yeah like okay yeah that's right so that's where you know not every board or every company wants like full-blown illustrations especially nowadays i mean nowadays things are kind of oh and now the rules are yeah it's all over the place so a lot of photos a lot of yeah all kinds of weirdness oh real quick this is just classics oh yeah it's probably the most classic old tony tony hawk board yeah i mean this is i mean i think they made like little skateboard hard drives out of this yeah tech decks video games yeah that thing had a ton of somewhere there's an action marketing with that yeah somewhere there's a video of brandon drawing this exact piece it's about 20 minutes long and uh yep i used to yeah yeah go to sleep watching this video so yeah it's pretty fun doing skateboards uh one thing we learned when doing them we were talking with johnny uh the owner of element and he was saying that he uses uh bread bags as his inspiration just because it's that that big tall format so he would go back yeah loaf of bread he would he would go to the bread aisle back like in 97 or something and just take all the bread bags out and look at them all and just get layout ideas of how do you you know put the cap on the top on the bottom so to me i was like what the hell like bro yeah i've never heard that until johnny said that but it is a great idea yeah skateboards are the weirdest canvas size because it's like roughly 33 inches wide with the bleed and nine tall with the bleed or opposite nine thirty yeah yeah so it's just like the weirdest canvas size so once he was talking about the you know the bread bags it was like okay you know that's actually a really good idea so yeah for sure and you could probably go back and look at a lot of early element boards and see the bread influence of just where the brakes are you know where's the logo so yep and all those you know basically graphic design style graphics exactly for sure totally um here's a good one so jamie thomas um he owned black box like i was saying um yeah zero mystery started falling footwear this was a rad board because we went into the office he wanted this board he's from alabama i mean even it even says alabama on there he's got this thing tattooed on his finger yep that is tattooed like i think right on his thumb or whatever so we had a meeting with him uh myself from brandon and sat down and he kind of talked about this whole thing so obviously planters peanuts seasoned assistant yeah so he was kind of like we're like oh okay you know rad idea but you know do you think you can do it and he's like i don't give a he's like we're gonna run them until they basically call us and tell us not to so i mean even like graphically or you know from illustration like that view of the the pool yeah it's so classic you know what i mean you can see the shallow end he's got he's doing the smith yeah that that's a good board with the hand down like i don't know he's got his little cane and the whole deal so just to see the pool there's a tee up there of it they made a bunch of different things oh yeah this is a great board yeah even the shape like i'm not a big shape guy but this i rode that board for a while yeah yeah that thing's great so that was kind of a fun one there's always like we said parodies on boards like we did one for uh plan b sheckler which was american express oh yeah and we did a silver black and gold card basically i think those got cease and desist i think real fast like before they maybe even yeah those guys shut down for sure so i mean this is uh this is one i loved just a good i mean you're probably gonna see this a lot nowadays in in the skate industry a lot of like car reference stuff uh i don't know just a good clean illustrator file yeah with some how'd you get those blurs in there is that that thing was is that a gradient mesh on there what is that yeah yeah it was all done with basically gradient mesh on the on the fenders and on the uh on the top and on the hood to kind of get it to have that kind of i guess vector vector look to it but in these like little logos like these are it right yeah that was fun that was a whole sticker sheet that we did and i think there's three cars but yeah that was one that i did um oh yeah it's like another just you know the car theme is you know something you're going to see within obviously the logo parodies kind of hard to tell here but there's the other boards yeah but that that series the other two are up there on the on the ceiling but that was that was a cool one dimaso did that and full nascar t-shirt basically basically they wanted to print a bunch of nascar looking t-shirts and then you know do the boards as well so that was fun you got too many to choose from yeah there's a bunch in there that that's just brockman yeah this dude is gnarly each board was like a different um some of them had you know each one had to have almost like a plant type element to it as well as some kind of insect or whatever what's on the top some of the top graphics were better yeah yeah spider yeah even just the white on a black dip like visually looks great you know that's a that's a good looking board yeah the zero days were the or the best this was a good one we'll show some sketches for this bad boy because they came to us wanting this um this kind of basically fish and lure series so there was a lure board oh yeah that somewhere that went with it um it was a big ass big-ass lure totally different shape so we developed we started out making a boat one of them was a boat oh yeah um and then we went from a boat to a fish and you know they were basically like we will cut any shape you guys designed so they were testing them we would send them a sketch and they would cut it out to make sure it wouldn't break yep yeah so it ended up landing on this which is pretty gnarly pretty detailed like a super gnarly shape the top the top is money yeah the tail is crazy like cut into the grip tape i think it's printed it's printed yeah yeah it kind of looks like it's cut through the grip tape but it's actually printed even the tail show them the tail like it's a it's a little uneven with the i mean you're not popping anything off that unless you're super good enough show them the wheels the wheels is almost better so the wheel actually has the fish chasing the lure so it's like a little frog i don't know tadpole lure i mean it's a good wheel yeah it's almost too good to be that small like that is a good piece yeah yeah so this this was fun oh yeah so this is another one this is one that there's a series of these skulls so sheckler actually has this tattoo i think on his shoulder or whatever forearm yeah so this one there's a p rod um actually i was talking to colin the other day because we're doing some new boards for plan b but he was saying how uh that he has that this series hanging up in his house yeah he said it's like one of his favorite series ever um it's a it's a good board i mean it has a veneer any board that has like the veneer showing yeah i mean it looks strong you know it's a good looking board which that i'll show you on screen here this kind of came from a p-rod board that skull the um oh yeah the calaveras yeah so that was basically the the idea years later they came back and said hey we want the uh we want to do a series with yeah at one point we were in a meeting with uh denman the manager and he was saying that this calavera board was his was p rod's favorite board so we were like oh well great why don't we do round two so then he's like you know good idea i didn't think of that so yeah we just spun off and made a second version of it so look at that so this is one of the i don't know first couple boards we did for plan b yeah um p-rod loved this board so from this they wanted a whole series and it was more of the side profile of the skull so yeah i love it yeah some of these are good like this olympic series up here on the left like that is a good i mean you can easily tell each country you know by like just looking at it those are good yeah those are those are fun these are back in the day when uh you know they're super heavy uh kind of sports influence yeah clean graphic design like they were like the varsity of skating you know yeah and that's where dustin and i kind of got a chance to work on a lot of these so this uh oh yeah you don't know what that quote is at the bottom but p rod was a huge bruce lee fan yeah which i mean who isn't but uh so another one that i think this and the calavero is like these are my favorite yeah that did he get this tattooed on him he might have this tattoo he might he might yeah so talking about p rod so we have a board i don't think it's in here but it's up up there and it's basically it was the year of the rat yep um chinese year of the rat and so he had this idea and it was at skate rat too by the skate rack yeah he had this idea he wanted a skate rat yep yeah they showed us the concept and it was amazing so we started making it they printed it and he ended up leaving the team randomly kind of secretly yeah so the board never went out and started yeah he started primitive but we have a copy of the old board and it's just like oh man if only this was able to go to market real quick you know that would be that would have been fire you know but it was cool board so i have a i have a transfer here oh yeah so we're kind of getting down to the end let's talk about a little bit about how some of these um you know boards are made how they're printed so heat transfer so this board yeah you got the board over there yeah let me grab the board so they will traditionally silk screen onto these heat transfers you could soak screen it or you could four color print it so they'll print onto these transfers you can silk screen on boards but it is very hard because of the concave but there are setups for that people do that but it is also how still does it a little bit yep and it is also very pricey it's pretty cool to see like i was pretty shocked when we saw this for the first time like yeah we were we were we were actually able to go to uh dwindle distribution which is the distribution company that has uh dark star blind and joy almost zero for a while yeah yeah um yeah so it's a huge distribution company up in l.a and el segundo um we've worked with darkstar and chat and those guys for years and years so we went up there um and this is the photo up on the screen that's chet press on a board but we went up there um to do a tour of the factory and he let you know dustin and i kind of heat transfer some boards showed us the whole process start to finish pick a blank grab your heat transfer run it through the heater yeah trim it throw it through the shrink wrap machine the whole deal like that the whole process is sick yeah yeah so oh wait back to this tj rogers yeah real quick so one time the nicest dude as well yeah yeah so he's super cool yeah tj rogers was a red bull triple set skate event and uh i worked at a skate shop so they were like throwing it or sponsor so i'm there hanging out drinking and i see tj rogers so i'm like oh dude like go up to him and it's keep in mind it's in the middle of his run you know he's it's a it's a three flat three flat three i believe so it's a huge set and you people are just hooking themselves getting broken and i'm like dude we do your boards like we're this company we you know we do everything and he's the nicest guy and he's like dude uh i have a bunch of shoes in my car uh what size are you you size 10 like let me just go grab you a pair of shoes real quick you know but he was on nike at that time he was getting flow he was getting flown on nike at the time this was again back in the day and i'm like wait you're like literally in the middle of a skate contest and he's like yeah no my car's just right outside and i'm like oh dude like you no thank you but no you know and he was just the the nicest guy that's cool yeah yeah yeah he also told the story the other day but on our meeting on monday he was like oh tj remember yeah we saw him [Music] basically he found out damaso did did this illustration a couple other boards for him and then tj was kind of like i want to take a picture with you yeah you're the man yeah no you're the pro skater yeah i just drew yeah drew a little picture for you buddy yeah it used to be fun to go to agenda back in the day like you would see obviously everybody there and yeah sometimes get to talk to them whether you know you're yeah in the restroom and you see kevin romar you're like oh dude what's up you know so yeah kevin romar is super cool super nice guy yeah um did we've done a bunch of boards for him yeah he's still got some clips hanging around that are yeah you know smooth so yeah buttery so we did a we did a ram pro board for him which he was super pumped on uh got a bunch of yeah he's he's good and he's uh i think he's a dj now for hopson who's a pretty famous rapper so just to see him like kind of transition his career yeah and we did like a dj board for him where he's like spinning and it's in one of the stacks here i saw it but yeah he's yeah he's legit he's a good guy i mean some of these skaters you know their career kind of ends and they're just you know who knows what they do so the fact that he's able to parlay it and yeah do what he loves yeah yeah it's cool it's pretty cool yeah so see this van series this van series is is ridiculous so dimaso drew all this in photoshop um each guy you know obviously specific van for each dude like i love these so yeah i mean that's a lot of boards we could we could go on all day here um and whatnot but i want to go skate now yeah right yeah exactly definitely got to get this eighth ply book out maybe we'll rename it yeah yeah i think we might do a new name um the format might be a little bit different but uh i think we need to get all this stuff you know in a book documented you know because there's so much good art so much you know like i said so many stories so we'll see we might just do it just a small run limited edition type thing yeah i mean you got to do like the kids safe we can get 10 000 likes on this book we're gonna make it right let's get those likes exactly all right man that was cool i wish uh i wish we could have had brandon and dimaso here to kind of sit down and dig deep into these some of these graphics they did but you know obviously nobody nobody's traveling at this point but give it give us some time and yeah we'll we'll sit down with them and pick out a couple boards and yeah kind of have them talk about their whole process i'm sure brandon's got some good stories he's probably got some yeah he might be a little pissed rightfully right yeah so cool all right man that was fun yeah uh yeah like subscribe comment hit all the buttons hit the bell am i missing anything will nope all right all right yeah we'll see you next time guys next week yeah thanks for watching yeah appreciate [Music] it