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LIE LIESMAN. ONE THREAT WE CAME UP WITH IS TRYING TO CONVINCE THE MARKET THAT 50 IS NOT CHILD'S PLAY. DO YOU AGREE >> YEAH, I DO. I TOOK A LOT OF SOLACE IN WHAT PRESIDENT HARKER SET WE'VE GOT TO SEE WHAT THIS DOES TO THE ECONOMY IT TAKES TIME BEFORE THE RATE HIKES TRANSLATE INTO ECONOMIC THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD SCRIPT TO ME HOW DO WE HAVE THOSE KINDS OF REPORTS, YELL ESTHER GEORGE SAYS SUPPLY AND DEMAND IS STILL OUT OF WACK. IT SURPRISED ME HOW SIGNIFICANTLY HOME SALES HAVE COME DOWN. BUT, YOU KNOW, CARL THIS IS ALSO PART OF THE SCRIPT, RIGHT? THE FED WANTS TO SLOW GROWTH YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AT ALL SURPRISING WE SIEVE WAVERING HOUSING ACTIVITY, THOUGH WE WILL SAY THE DECLINE IN SALES HAS BEEN SHARPER THAN ANTICIPATED SO I THINK THE HOUSING RECESSION MAY BE MORE SEVERE WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN HOUSE PRICES YET, BUT YOU SUSPECT WE'LL SEE SOME MEANINGFUL PRICE DEC DECLINES >>> DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIND UP, COME YEAR END, WITH SOME SOFT NFP READS? >> I DO. I THINK IT'S ALREADY STARTING TO HAPPEN BUSINESSES ARE GROWING MORE CAUTIOUS THE POSITIONS ARE A LITTLE OVER 10 MILLION IS STILL VERY HIGH, BUT THEY FEEL LIKE SOFT, UNFILLED POSITIONS AS A BUSINESS PERSON, HIRING LOTS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD, WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS, BUT WE ARE FILLING THEM MUCH MORE SLOWLY THAN WE WOULD HAVE 6, 12 MONTHS AGO WITH THE ECONOMY. SO IT FEELS LIKE THE LABOR MARKET IS STARTING TO EASE UP HERE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, I WOULD EXPECT THE GAINS IN EMPLOYMENT WILL BE WELL SOUTH OF 100K PER MONTH, MAYBE A NEGATIVE MONTH OR TWO IN THERE AS WELL >> WILL THAT MEAN PEOPLE WILL STOP WORKING FROM HOME I WONDER, PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME, AS YOU SEEM TO BE. >> SORRY. >> DO YOU THINK THAT'S AFFECTING PRODUCTIVITY AT ALL? >> DAVID, YOU'RE REFERRING TO MY DOGS THAT ARE BARKING? I APOLOGIZE. >> NO, I CAN'T HEAR THE DOGS I CAN'T HEAR THE DOGS. >> IN MY VIEW, I THINK REMOTE WORK IS HERE TO STAY I THINK IT'S A GAME CHANGER. IT WILL EBB AND FLOW, BUT IT'S EBBING A BIT NOW, BUT I THINK IT'S HERE TO SAY ULTIMATELY I THINK IT WILL BUT PRODUCTIVITY ENHANCING AS TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES AND WE GET BETTER AT THIS, THAT WILL RESULT IN PRODUCTIVITY GAINS I THINK, YOU KNOW, NEW COMPANIES WHEN THEY FORM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FORM AND OPTIMIZE AROUND AN OFFICE SPACE OR CUBES. THEY'RE GOING TO OPTIMIZE AROUND REMOTE WORK. AS THEY DO, WE'LL SEE THE PRODUCTIVITY GAINS MORE CLEARLY IN THE DATA. WE NEED MORE DATA POINTS OBVIOUSLY, BUT I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF, YOU KNOW, FIVE, TEN YEARS FROM NOW WE DON'T LOOK BACK AND DON'T SEE PRODUCTIVITY BECAUSE OF REMOTE WORK. >> IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC, IN TERMS OF THE WAY WE WORK. MORE TO...