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[Music] you're listening to the abra money 3.0 show your guide to the future of all things money this episode is all about digibyte digibyte is a popular cryptocurrency on abra its design everything from the way it was initially launched to how it is mined today makes it extremely accessible the format for the show will be a little bit different than normal because we combined two interviews into one episode to kick things off aber's bill bar hyde will interview digibite founder jarrett tate in the second half of the episode average daniel mcglynn interviews digibyte advocate and organizer josiah spectre this podcast is powered by block works group for access to premier digital asset conferences and in-depth podcast content visit them at block works group dot io before jumping in remember the information presented in this podcast is provided for informational purposes only and shall not be used or construed as an offer to sell or solicitation have been offered to buy any of the financial assets discussed any opinions expressed herein are subject to change neither abra nor any of the participants in this podcast make any representation as to the suitability or appropriateness of these financial assets for individual investors and with that out of the way on to the show hey everybody bill barrheight here welcome to another exciting episode of abras money 3.0 so today we're going to talk about digibytes so with me here is uh jared the founder of uh did you bite jared tate how are you today my friends do it fantastic thanks for having me on bill my pleasure uh you have a very interesting community uh i've it's the only community that has basically taken my likeness uh and turned it into probably four different superhero characters uh which has caused like unbelievable amount of embarrassment so i want to thank you all from from the bottom of my heart for that and god knows what uh what they're gonna come up with when we tell them that we've enabled uh digibyte deposits uh today which is um something that the community has been personally hounding me for uh for months and so i'm really excited that one you get to have digibyte deposits and two people get to stop asking me uh for uh digit byte deposits uh but but seriously um i'm really excited that uh we're going to be able to announce that we have both the positive withdrawal support for native uh digibyte now in in the abra app so all of you out there who are already digibyte fans please dig in and now what we're going to do is let's let's talk a little bit about for the uninitiated uh people out there who don't know a lot about digibyte uh jared i wonder if you could just really quickly summarize what's unique about digibyte versus the other cryptocurrencies that are out there and why should people care yeah so uh digibyte originally began in 2014 although we started work on it in 2013 but the unique thing about digibyte besides being almost six years old now is it's been completely community driven since the beginning so there is no company there is no foundation everything that's done with digibyte is actually completely volunteer driven and completely open sourced and decentralized and that's why we have such a fantastic very enthusiastic uh community and and you know they're they're spread all over the world and over the last uh you know almost six years now digibyte has made a series of innovations in the industry um things like real-time difficulty adjustment which has now been picked up by everyone from ethereum to bitcoin cash z cash and numerous other blockchains uh digibyte you know was actually the first major altcoin to activate segwit and we've continued to innovate and pioneer new things uh here recently uh in 2019 we just carried out a hard fork um to add a new mining algorithm so i if for those that aren't familiar digibyte has five independent mining algorithms and this latest mining algorithm is called udocrypt which is named after the uh shape shifter from star trek and it's actually a mining algorithm that changes itself every 10 days so it's really not economical or possible to build asics for it and that's actually allowed us to become even more decentralized in fact a recent survey and audit we just did comparing the last three months or a recent three-month period of mining on the digibyte blockchain what we found is when we compared the same three-month window to litecoin and bitcoin um we found that bitcoin only had 60 unique miners uh during that same period uh whereas litecoin had 251 while during the same time digibite had 1295 and we credit a large that to you know the the fact we have five mining algorithms and utocrypt which allows uh basically home-based hobbyist mining again so and and how uh if you dig into that that's fascinating that's something i hadn't even thought of do you know if some of those are pools that need to basically separate their their mining capabilities across each of the different capabilities you have so they show up as effectively different miners or is it genuinely physically separate entities that are designing uh you know so what we're actually looking at here to get the metric is actual individual addresses from the coin base of a transaction yep um and what because of the five different mining algorithms you know uh for those that actually the last time we talked i think we talked about this a little bit one of the fascinating things because digibyte has five independent mining algorithms you could literally take all the bitcoin mining power in the world throw it at digibyte and you would only get 20 of the blocks so what we're effectively able to do is kind of mitigate the impact that highly centralized asic mining has uh and for those that aren't aware that's actually a huge problem that bitcoin has right now you know you have one worldwide manufacturer that's the largest asic manufacturer and it seems to me from what i've seen a lot of times they are splitting uh that mining power across different mining pools but at the end of the day uh those newly mined coins still come back typically to the same addresses over and over again because these mining pools and these different miners typically aren't changing the addresses and you can kind of tell what what type of mining pool it is there's some some technical ways you can see it but it's a very fascinating metric to look at really interesting so so what else is new in the community i mean what uh what's getting you excited these days yeah so you know in in 2014 when we started digivite actually started with the headline um and for those that aren't familiar the genesis block is the first block in the blockchain uh in our our our blockchain started with the headline target 110 million customers data is stolen uh so even from the beginning you know we've we've kind of felt that cyber security and security in general is really kind of the most innovative thing about blockchain technology um and i actually go into this i i actually tomorrow i'll be releasing uh my book i've been working on almost for a year and a half now called blockchain 2035 the digital dna of internet 3.0 and one of those chapters i have is blockchain is really the evolution of applied cryptography and you know and some really advanced mathematical concepts that go all the way back to claude shannon um and i feel like there's a lot of very underutilized features so one of the things we've really been focused on here this last year is something we're calling digi id and a simple way to explain dizzy id is you have your typical wallet so you know you have the private keys that are associated with your wallet where you store your digi bytes or your bitcoin or your other cryptos and those cryptographic keys the public and private keys can do a lot more than just sign you know send and receive transactions you can actually use those private keys uh you know in another wallet that you create to for instance authenticate yourself to websites and effectively replace passwords um so we rolled that out and it's actually getting a lot of traction uh there's a company in uh in in europe actually called anthem id uh that's actually getting a lot of traction and interest from governments um so i think we're gonna have a lot more traction with that moving forward as a way uh you know to utilize some things in a blockchain that just often aren't uh you know they're overlooked um so that's one area another area is we've actually introduced a secondary protocol and type on top of digibyte called digi assets and you know it's similar to what you're seeing with like erc20 has a similar origin but the difference is our approach is to leverage some of this cryptography that's overlooked in the blockchain to potentially scale some of these secondary layer protocols for issuing other assets in a much a much more efficient manner uh than for instance like what you're seeing with ethereum and the scalability problems they're experiencing you know i mean their solutions effectively sharding charting the blockchain uh which is um you know splitting everything up so uh we we've got that out there uh we've actually got several use cases and projects uh that are being developed as digi assets um you know one of the ones i'm excited about uh that i'm actually personally a part of is something we're calling digipad which is a launch pad for digital assets and uh you know the way i like to describe it is when people think of digital assets they tend to think of just cryptocurrencies or maybe uh you know different tokens or stuff like that but in reality a digital asset could be a number of different things like i uh you know for one want to be able to take my living will or you know my passport or my birth certificate and store those in a secure digital environment and protect those as a digital asset um so that's uh you know that's one of the things we're working on fascinating so maybe that's the segway i don't i don't know the details but maybe it is so you mentioned uh or i've heard a rumor i should say that you've got a book coming out yeah is that true yeah so the the book's called blockchain 2035 the digital dna of internet 3.0 and the the premise of the book is what will the world look like in the year 2035 and how will blockchain come to shape our everyday lives by then wow and it's it's really the summation of the last eight years of you know experience i've had in the thousands of questions i've been asked uh and as far as i know it's the first book that's ever going to be written by a blockchain founder um so i've been i actually first outlined it i think in 2016 and i started working on it about 14 months ago uh it's about over 500 pages right you know i've actually condensed it a little bit uh there's 18 chapters and we've really tried to highlight and to you know to to give people a broad perspective of what blockchain is from the ground up um you know the intro and the segway to the book is you know why does blockchain matter why is it important um you know i give the example you know if those everyone that's listening in you know if you just picture and imagine all the dna in your body you have dna strands in your hair you have dna strands in your legs your feet all over well what if all the dna in your body was just located in your fingertip and you were you know let's say chopping some limes for a cocktail or some vegetables and you slipped and you cut your finger off well you'd have a problem your body would slowly wither and die and it just wouldn't be good well that's kind of how we architect all of our data systems today you know we have all these centralized points of failure that get hacked that get stolen they get manipulated and so what blockchain really is is a paradigm shift in the way we handle data and in computer science that in a lot of ways mimics nature and we go through you know some blockchain basics some terminology and then we go into like i mentioned earlier you know blockchain is really the evolution of applied cryptography and mathematics and so we go into the history of like uh you know claude shannon and information theory and we go through a lot of the key pioneers um where what we call subsystems came from so the way we also compare it is if you think of a blockchain like a car you have brakes you have an engine you have air conditioning you have all these subsystems well just like that you have these various subsystems in a blockchain so you've got the you know the transaction validation you've got the peer-to-peer networking you have the consensus algorithm and all those different components came from different mathematical and cryptographic pioneers uh you know over the last 50 years so we go through and we talk about some of that and what i actually just found recently we talked a lot about uh dr ralph merkel who's actually the creator of the merkle tree which is the main data structure in a blockchain and also the father of public and private key cryptography um i actually found after i'd written all this stuff about the nature example he'd actually written a similar example so that was actually fascinating to get that reinforced but yeah we go through that we talk about in the book how blockchain can be rails for artificial intelligence because one of the problems in ai is how do you trust your data feed and your data sources um you know we we go and we talk about the history of time keeping time keeping in computer systems time keeping in celestial navigation in the 1600s and how in a lot of ways a blockchain is actually the first time humans have actually been able to keep accurate records in history that are that are undeniably provable so um you know we talk about uh the future with quantum computing uh we talk about probably one of the most interesting things is uh is how blockchain is going to become a um a competition among nation states um so i actually i had a co-author i should have mentioned that his name is andrew knapp and he's actually a former fbi analyst so a lot of the geoeconomics geopolitical stuff you know was written by him uh with with my i guess blockchain perspective so it's a very dynamic book that goes through a lot of different areas and i guess that's how it ended up being over 500 pages fascinating so when you go out 15 20 years right you have to start to think about the singularity and what happens when you basically have this intersection of exponentially improving technologies like you know cpu performance storage um you mentioned quantum computing and all of these software technologies around cryptography and and you know blockchain et cetera et cetera i mean how can one possibly have any opinion as to what will happen if we have a sentient uh computer system that can make decisions at a rate that's doubling uh every 18 months i mean it's it's pretty bold right well see and this is one of the arguments in the book is uh in order to be able to successfully implement a lot of these systems you need some way to keep these ais in check and and and secure them right and by running uh and configuring this to run on a blockchain you could effectively do a number of things um you could if it has to you know tie back into the chain effectively put a kill switch in in it you know um that's one of the use cases but there's uh there's a lot of fascinating things that can get there um you know but i think after after you know writing the book and going through it the biggest question and the biggest unknown unknown is definitely quantum computing uh how that will shake out an effect uh you know because here recently i think it was d-wave uh just announced that they'd uh commercially sold the first five thousand uh qubit um you know quantum computer to a national laboratory so uh you know a lot of the the theoretical calculations for cracking like shot 256 were roughly in that area now obviously there's we go into the book there's different types of quantum computing and different approaches to quantum computing so not all quantum computers are are created equal um but it to me that's the biggest gray area you know you know moving into the year 2035. uh fascinating so um are you going to do a book tour of some kind are you going to make the rounds in the conference circuit what's your plan yeah yeah we'll be doing a series of events uh throughout starting probably at the end of november and december and then into the spring so we haven't really got a finalized list yet but uh we will be doing that uh we'll actually be putting uh by the time you know or for those who are listening to this right now if you actually go to blockchain2035.com uh there'll be a series of videos uh you know we're doing shorter videos we're putting them out on social media talking about different concepts different um uh chapters in the book and then what we're really trying to do is to to to have the book uh in a way be like the the industry guide um you know obviously there's some stuff about digivite in there but 95 percent of the book is about the industry at large it's not just focused on digi byte it's it's focused on i think we've probably surveyed over 100 different projects and protocols you know one of the distinct things that actually i think would be good to uh to talk about is in the book we make the distinction between a blockchain protocol and a blockchain project and i think that's something a lot of people get confused by and what we're calling a blockchain protocol is a blockchain that has its own unique network that doesn't rely on any other blockchain network or system and then a blockchain project effectively like its own universe effectively effectively yes and so when we split chapter 9 and 10 we're like we really need to clear up because so often you get people that'll compare like for instance tether uh to you know even did you buy or bitcoin when in reality tether is issued on top of bitcoin and is dependent upon the bitcoin blockchain um and so there's a lot of projects out there that people aren't aware of that are actually relying on the underlying security of another blockchain protocol so we go through and we analyze and the main difference between most protocols is actually the consensus algorithm that they're using and their approach to you know achieving consensus so we split that up for projects and we're calling projects anything that's built on another you know blockchain universe um or or even for instance we talk about abra and what you guys do so we go through wallets we go through exchanges we go through gateways there's probably over 100 different things that we go through you know just really trying to organize categorize the industry and the applications moving forward so we've got a chapter dedicated to financial applications uh commercial applications government applications we talk about voting systems on a blockchain a whole number of things so it's a very very thorough book and i guess the the the idea originally is to take all the different things that i've i've been lucky enough to be a part of and just kind of put them in one area as a resource for people that's awesome so obviously what's the name of the book again before i move on marching 2035. blockchain 2035 and you can go to blockchain2035.com i is it on amazon books is it ebook is that how it works or is it a free download it'll be on there so it'll uh you can find it on amazon awesome um well look this has been it's always fascinating to talk to you i'm always always interested by what you're working on i find it uh like i said truly fascinating and i'm a big fan of the digibytes community i think uh we need more competition in these protocols that will move the the entire space forward uh in terms of taking risks on new technologies and addressing some of the the centralization problems i also firmly believe that um there is a scale of decentralization and more decentralization and more security uh are better but we also basically need at the same time to think about performance to make this stuff useful and so in that regard i just i have nothing but respect for uh for what you do and and for the whole community uh at large so thank you very much for your efforts yeah thank you thank you for supporting digibyte um like i said i know the community is is very excited about abra so uh looking forward to what you guys are doing as well well let's wrap there so uh tate thank you so much for joining uh again and uh we look forward to having you on again in the future we'd love to hear how things are going with the book um what's your twitter handle for people who want to want to follow you yeah it's uh at jared c tate um and you can also follow at blockchain2035 uh so you know we're actually going to uh start a a newsletter in a blog and we're going to keep creating uh and this book will be updated over time we'll revise it over the years um and we'll keep adding and refining it fantastic did you know that digibyte along with many other popular cryptocurrencies is now available for deposit and withdrawal from the abrap in the second part of this episode we're going to hear from josiah spacman josiah is based in new zealand and he's one of the people working to make digibite a powerful global and completely decentralized network yeah we're really excited to talk to you today about digibyte and some of the community aspects of digibyte and and some of the things that really kind of makes digibyte unique um but i guess before jumping into that i really kind of wanted to just talk to you about um you know maybe you can explain to us how you started how you first got involved in crypto and how you first came to the digibite community right well the the title of the show money 3.0 i suppose was quite uh relevant given that i had heard from a friend of mine that i could use my computer and use my graphics card to print money and i thought back at the time in sort of late 2013 that that was the greatest thing ever i was so excited for that but uh so i i got involved i actually ended up going out and buying a couple of graphics cards to mine bitcoin unfortunately that was right as the first fpgas and asics were hitting the market and so that quickly turned to a bad idea but i found litecoin and i i sort of saw it and i thought this is faster it's going to have a bigger maximum supply and i know i'm a clever guy that seems like a good idea for global adoption so i started mining litecoin for about a month and then i came across digibyte they'd just been doing some philanthropic work and had recently done their first protocol upgrade and again the same sort of thing faster bigger maximum supply whole bunch of other cool stuff and i thought you know what this seems like something that i could get behind so obviously here we are today in late 2019 uh i took a little bit of sabbatical from it a couple of years back but have been back and involved ever since unfortunately the whole printing money didn't really quite work out too well for me but still having a great time nonetheless yeah and so um so what kind of maybe paint a picture of your role with digibyte today what what kinds of things are you working on um with digibyte in the digibite community and maybe it makes sense too for our listeners to kind of back up a little bit and just explain um how the digibyte community works first and then and then we can talk about uh some of the projects you're working on yeah sure so it's probably a good idea if we if we do go back and kind of look at how the digibot community works first because that would explain why i have been given the title of chief fun officer so the digibyte community isn't a formal hierarchical kind of company in the traditional sense where you have a ceo sitting at the top and everybody else kind of reports to them and things it's a very new way of operating so not that there's anything wrong obviously with having a company and having people who are say for example project leads or a ceo but this is obviously a very different way of doing things with the did you buy blockchain being a permissionless project basically means that there is no permission required it is implied so oftentimes we get people who will come to us and will ask hey i'd like to build on top of the did you buy blockchain for my project for my company who do i need to see about getting permission the simple answer is you don't need to see anybody at all anybody can do that the permission is implied and as such the same thing goes when you are starting up a youtube channel again the permission is implied or talking with abra on their money 3.0 podcast the permission is implied that you can speak on behalf of digibytes so that's really quite cool having it and i suppose this is a real mind shift for a lot of people compared to what they're used to traditionally but sort of then come over to this kind of a thing it's it's very very different and it's it's quite exciting to to have that kind of that freedom and that liberation so yeah in that kind of a vein i am everything from technical support in our support channels i write integration guides i do daily youtube updates to keep people informed with what's going on with digi by all of the progress that we've made over the last sort of 24 hours and things and all of that kind of thing all together uh it kind of i suppose sums up my role there's no individual single title and and so maybe we could talk about what the digibyte community because you know we keep sort of saying the digibyte community but what does that look like so it's it's global right and um do you have any um information in terms of like the number of people that are kind of active in developing on digibyte or um or otherwise just kind of the hardest thing just goes with that kind of a metric especially when you start looking at the number of nodes and things people come to us and they'll say how many nodes are on the digibyte network and that's a really difficult question to answer because that would imply that there is a central entity that everybody checks into but if you have that kind of a central entity that's also a point of failure like a point of weakness that could be used to attack the network so as such we have no definitive answer on exactly how many people there are on the network how many people there are utilizing it and things like that and i think that's actually quite cool from a privacy perspective as well as a like a redundancy in a security perspective so there's there's definitely benefits and definitely downsides to that but we do have a very broad community for example we know that on just one of our platforms we have over 300 000 people following us on just one individual platform if you couple in things like twitter for example where there's 150 000 followers there you kind of you start to get a bit of a an idea of of the the size of the community the distribution though is what really impresses me the most uh especially when we do things like we find out that the most common place to purchase digi by with fiat is actually in turkey and so we've got this really interesting kind of thing going on i suppose where did you bite is taking off quite broadly especially in the greater europe area and for a lot of people obviously being in america or myself in new zealand it's it's kind of eye-opening to think just how broadly we are actually using did you buy if we were from new zealand australia america uh throughout europe uh and even in a whole lot of developing nations as well for example in venezuela where we've done some previous charitable work there so it's really exciting stuff and and it's it's definitely mind-blowing to see just how distributed the network is and how many people are using it from all over the world and do people when you're when you're communicating with other digibyte users and talking to the community do you have a sense of um how people are using it or like what's the dominant use case is there a dominant use case or are people using it for all kinds of um all kinds of things yeah absolutely so it i mean the primary one that everybody thinks about when they think of blockchain if they think of bitcoin and they think of money and so money is definitely a big part exchanging value from one side of the globe to the other for example i have a friend who is in russia and in order to send money to him rather than going through an alternative provider that people would traditionally use for banking for example it's a lot easier for him for me to send him did you buy and the great part is as soon as we hit send it's it's basically there and it gets a confirmation on the blockchain pretty much straight away so there's no worrying about is it going to actually go through is it going to time out it's just it's there and he loves it so we see a lot of that kind of thing and it was one of the main reasons why we we did that charity work like i mentioned in venezuela was because of that speed and the the low fees around it so when we're giving digibytes to these children in an impoverished school they're able to then use that to learn about cryptocurrency to learn about blockchain and a whole lot of other things in a really kind of fast manner without it costing them and without eating away at all of their did you buy through transaction fees so that was quite exciting for us but i suppose the main other way that we're using this a lot right now would be through digital assets on top of the blockchain so that's something that's really started to take off in the last couple of months and we're seeing a whole ton of amazing different use cases and scenarios that are are popping up in that kind of vein but one of the other more common ways now that we're seeing in the last kind of couple of months crop up is definitely with our digi assets and using these digital assets on top of the blockchain to do everything from shares in a company through to uh advertising and and a whole lot of more interesting ways like everything from a say for example a movie ticket through to an airline ticket through to a season pass to a like a what do you call them a musical event so we're using these digital assets and they're starting to crop up everywhere and it's great to see them and some of the ways that they are providing for people in terms of like a global funding method for business and entrepreneurs is also really exciting as well so why would people um using that that um the asset model like why why would people do that like what's the advantage of having an asset on the digibyte blockchain versus just having it sort of be a traditional asset yeah and i mean that's a great question and in fact for us one of the reasons that comes to mind immediately is a shrimp and crab farm that's being operated out of the philippines and so for them to grow and bring their company into the next level and to take on additional staff and to purchase more land they needed enough income they weren't able to get locally through a traditional kind of a loan method however they put enough of a business case together and they presented it to the digimon community and basically said this is what we want to do this is how we want to grow this is our thoughts who's up for helping fund this and the idea being that with these digi assets what they'll do is based on the profits that they make every quarter they will then send those funds to the holders of that digi asset so let's say i have two of these assets and you have 10 of them what they would do is if they made uh a certain number of digi bite they'll split that and so i'll get the percentage of it so one-fifth and you'll get the remaining four-fifths and so that'll show up in your digi-byte wallet that's holding that digi asset every quarter as they as they pay it out so really cool kind of funding method there for for growing a business and and building both in the traditional world as well as in the digital world at the same time i think that's absolutely fantastic yeah that's really interesting um and is did you buy from from some of the reading i've done and looking at digibyte it seems like uh security is is kind of a major component of of some of the things that people are building with digibyte do you do you see that in the community as like a theme or something that people are interested in yeah for sure absolutely and especially with our digid authentication protocol is very much become a core kind of pillar i suppose for digi by the the whole idea of security in fact in the genesis block when jared tate was originally creating the blockchain he put in there that it was a target data stolen from millions and millions of users now the reason that he put that in there was wanting to instill a focus on cyber security and yeah i'm pretty pleased to say i guess we're now six years down the line uh as of january and that will be still a very core main focus for us not just in the way that the blockchain is being utilized with things like digi id for secure login and authentication but also in the actual way that we've gone and grown and split our proof of work from just being a single algorithm to being multi-algorithm our multi-shield proof-of-work difficulty adjustment the way that we're now specifically choosing to focus on certain asics certain fpgas and we're bringing back gpu mining as well so all of this together the the focus definitely is on security for sure and you mentioned you you kind of got interested your own background you got interested in cryptocurrencies first at uh kind of um you know figuring out how to how to mine them and and and interact with them um and it sounds like um digibyte is kind of going through the effort of making sure that um people interested in participating in the digibyte network will have will be able to access it from multiple multiple different mining methods could you just talk about that a little bit yeah absolutely so i i presume now for for the listeners who are are uh maybe in their car or they're at the gym and they're listening in you've got a computer that you're recording this on or a laptop right yep yeah so inside of that computer you're going to have a graphics card now in order for you to participate in the security of the network and begin mining all you need to do is download and run some software there's basically no sign up process or anything along those lines there's no having to go to an exchange and swap out bitcoin for example so in order for you to begin participating and to get involved with the network gpu mining is actually a really quick and simple way to get people interested and distribute the network as well for that security because you have a computer and i've got a computer that i'm recording this on and it's got a graphics card in it i'm then further contributing to the decentralization by mining from this whereas if you have the likes of asics they are traditionally in a large farm in a data center uh so for for people who are not familiar with it think of basically like a really really great big tall warehouse with just racks and racks and racks of these small little devices and that centralizes the mining a lot and that then becomes a point of weakness so that's one of the reasons why gpu mining is something that we are looking to bring back because it it helps to onboard people nice and easily it contributes to the decentralization of the network with a broader number of participants uh contributing to the mining and as such that then contributes to the security so that's a win when when situation there yeah yeah and i think it's um it's interesting too just that um i think you know as as sort of a point of entry i guess um uh people can come with their gpus and start mining but then um as they become more sophisticated or other you know sophisticated miners can also participate in securing the network and um and keeping digibyte running so that's that's kind of an interesting model it'd be it'd be cool to just kind of watch that over time unfold and see what that looks like yeah and so well i mean i guess the great thing is that we've been multi-algorithm now for several years and so what we saw is the progression over time with certain algorithms that changed from being gpu mined into being asic mineable now we're bringing back gpu mining uh because it is a nice way to easily onboard people people will probably hear like me hey you can go along and you can convert the energy that you're uh basically purchasing from your your power company your graphics card can then run some computation some math and contribute to the security of the network and you will be rewarded and given back did you buy so it's a really simple way to get people on board and interested in using the network more so than any kind of like asic would but at the same time we're also still mindful that asics provide a ton of security so having our multi-algorithm approach where we can use all of the above is absolutely fantastic and i think really sits did you by the park so i i guess i'm really just curious about the the digibite community um you know at from our vantage point here at abra we um we hear from the digibite community all the time and we're kind of aware that there's this very engaged global community working on digibyte but what's super interesting to me is there's no like formal corporate structure it's not like um you know people are paid to do marketing activities or or you know paid to do all this outreach it's just kind of happening very organically on this very distributed decentralized network and so i'm kind of just curious could you tell us more about like how the actual community works like where are people coming from and and um what like how do they get involved in projects and and just how does that all work right so it's definitely a very grassroots movement and i think the the fact that there was never any kind of an ico and the fact that people only have skin in the game based on what they've actually put in really kind of helps us i mean it's a blessing and a curse at the same time because let's be honest it would be fantastic to be able to have a slush fund that we could then use to throw at a whole bunch of people and make certain things happen like developing certain applications or protocol improvements and things like that but we simply don't there's there's no big pre-mind there's no founders reward there's no uh block rewards that are going off to a certain entity or company it is 100 grass roots and so it's really interesting because that also levels the playing field and it's not something that a lot of people who have joined and become part of the cryptocurrency movement in the last few years have rarely seen because a lot of people simply see icos and they see these big projects that have billions and billions of dollars in the bank account and so this is i suppose where the curse side of it kind of comes in because it would be nice like i mentioned to be able to do that but as a result we have this passionate community who simply believes in it because they can see the advantage of the technology the advantage of doing things the right way and not uh i suppose just throwing money at the wall and seeing what sticks sort of thing so it's it's hard but i think that this is personally i think this is the best way of doing things and it excites me because we get that from the community as well the community comes to us from all over the world like all over the world they'll find us through facebook they'll find us through twitter they'll find us on reddit they'll come across us just by doing google searches and they'll join and they'll get involved and they'll see that grassroots movement and they'll see that hey look they are on exactly the same page and exactly the same standing as the founder of the project so one of the interesting things actually that not a lot of people know is the recent upgrade to odocrypt uh was done mostly without the the founders involvement so jared tate who created it is still actively involved to this day and he still commits code but the actual autocrypt upgrade that we did for our network replacing one of our algorithms um he was basically just kind of off to the side doing other things and he just said hey look you guys go and do this and and you know make it work it's part of the whole idea of decentralization is that we don't have to go to any individual uh for for permission so yeah we did we went off and and uh several of us went through the whole the process and got it going and got it working got it on testnet and got it pushed live and it's it's amazing to see how somebody who is the founder and somebody who is new to the space are both on that same kind of standing in that same level it's very liberating and it's an incredible uh difference from a lot of other projects out there so i i think the fact that abra sees that kind of thing is fantastic i love it yeah and it excites yeah and i think like that that kind of um spirit i guess of of the permissionless um participation and just the the overall uh distributed nature of digibite is really in my mind what what makes it kind of a unique project and also um you know adheres to a lot of um i think why people are attracted to cryptocurrencies in the first place um just this idea of a new way of doing things with cryptocurrencies yeah it's it's kind of an alternative um uh but it's an alternative that you can participate with other people kind of all sort of incentivized and working towards um the same goal uh but across the whole planet and i think that's that's really cool so i'm also really curious about um how how people can come to cryptocurrencies maybe without being developers or have a deep background in um you know computer science or or programming do you do you see people come to to did you bite without sort of that technical background but they're really passionate and interested about um just sort of achieving some of these goals of of you know alternative economic structures and ways to um send payments around the world you know in in a way that's cost-effective and and fast um do you see that kind of thing happening yeah and it's funny as well based on the way that you're kind of phrasing it almost makes me feel like the the image of digibyte is that there are tons of developers and people are constantly building on it and i mean that that's very much the reality there there are companies that are out there that are building on top of did you buy that we don't even know about but we can see certain things happening on the blockchain and in fact a quick little story a friend of mine actually came to me a little while ago that i know in real life he goes to my church and he basically says to me he's like hey so i wanted to ask you a quick question about digibite and i was like oh cool yeah hey look that's that's my i know and and he says i just wanted to ask you about this and i said that's that's an interesting question why are you asking about that he said oh look we've been running stuff on top of did you buy now for the last six months and i was like hey that's really cool i mean i didn't know i would have loved to be able to tell people and tell the community but at the same time this kind of fits in with the whole there is no central point of authority there's no asking for permission and so very much with the developers versus people that are coming that don't have that kind of computer science background and things sure we do have developers who are working on things like the applications we're working on uh maintaining the website who are working on building the core protocol and things like that but they are definitely the minority they're they're only a small handful compared to our vast and broad and incredibly passionate community of hundreds of thousands if not millions i mean that's the thing we only know about those hundreds of thousands because they're specifically chosen to subscribe to certain social media platforms and things you don't have to and there's nothing forcing somebody to do that and so we know that it is even broader than that so yeah most of the community comes along and in fact the the definite vast majority like 99 of them i would argue come along without any kind of a formal training in like programming or anything along those lines and so i would encourage people if they are listening to this and you're not a developer you're not a programmer that's totally okay if you're looking to contribute to digi byte do whatever it is that you do best you do that so if you're really good at sales and marketing maybe you're you're the kind of person who'd like to go into a company and say hey look would you be interested in in taking did you buy as a means of payment or maybe you're you're not that way inclined maybe you're a little bit more shy maybe instead you'd rather just talk with your friends and family about it maybe look the thing is people don't actually have to do anything at all you can simply just use the network and if you don't want to do anything over and above that again that's totally cool we're a permissions project and you do whatever it is that you do best and if that's just using the network hey look great i'm i'm so so pleased that people are getting value out of it and that that excites me i love that i think that's fantastic and is there a main place so let's say you know i'm listening to this episode and i'm i'm excited and i want to get involved in this this community um is there is there like one place that people um kind of start out or or like get involved in the that sort of distributed community or or is it as you're mentioning like you can come at it from all different angles and eventually people just kind of find their fit and find where they you know the the things they want to work on yeah exactly if if there is something that you want to participate in uh to be honest the most common places where we end up meeting up with people is both on twitter and also on telegram we've got a large kind of community that is congregated on telegram i also know though that there is a large and thriving community on discord i'm not actually part of that at all myself but i know it's there and i know that a lot of people who use discord are on there and are happy and they're communicating and they're developing stuff same for on facebook there's actually quite a growing community on facebook and instagram and even on snapchat people follow certain accounts to stay up to date so whatever works best for you i think is probably one of the main themes that that i see coming through with digi bite lately is the the choice and the option for people to do whatever it is that is going to be best for them rather than what they've been told to use so if you want to use telegram you want to jump on there and say hi that's absolutely fantastic and we're there and hey look we'll have a great chat and and we'd love to help you out in any way that we can but if you're on discord that's cool join the discord community if you're on reddit join the reddit community great and so what do you think um what what's uh kind of on your horizon for for digibyte what are the the projects um maybe that you yourself are really interested in that that are coming down the pipe or or that you feel like the community sentiment is just really excited about um the next digibyte pro project what does that look like oh that's a really good question the immediate future is going to be the likes of the upgrade for the network to use the progpal gpu mining algorithm that's underway as we speak so that's super cool i'm so excited for that bringing back gpu mining both so that we can use it as a way to easily onboard people allowing people to contribute personally to the security of the network but also as a way to further decentralize the network and to increase the security again we come back to like we talked at the very beginning security is a a core focus for us and i think that's really quite cool but the other main things that are coming up so if we were to look forward a little bit uh into say 2020 for example uh we're doing great things with digi assets and so right now we're working on ways that we can incorporate video into them we're working on ways that we can incorporate a private and authenticated axis through digi assets so for example if there was a like a comic for example that you had the digi asset for you would have to authenticate with your digi asset and prove that you own it before getting restricted access to this private area that allows you to see this comic for example and later on as well in 2020 one of the things that we're actually looking at quite seriously is quantum resistance and in terms of what parts of the blockchain need to be upgraded to achieve that kind of quantum resistance yeah i think that's another really interesting application for digibyte that we haven't really touched on but something that i feel like is is kind of a growing um interest uh in the crypto community uh more broadly is just this idea of digital ownership yeah and that's exactly that's so what we've got with our digi ideas it's basically just a really pretty front end for public private key cryptography just like you have with your sending and receiving of digibyte or bitcoin but instead of using it to authenticate that you have access to these certain addresses we're now doing it to allow users to pseudo anonymously log into a website now i say sudo anonymously because each website or each application gets a newly generated address based on your private keys so you cannot ever have say for example when you go to a website right now you'll sign in with bob at hotmail.com and if you go to another website again you'll reuse that same username and we we see things like we see websites getting hacked and people's usernames and people's passwords getting put out onto the internet and even like advertising profiles being built across multiple websites simply based on the fact you use that same username because digi id is pseudo-anonymous because it uses a randomly generated address for each website people can't build that kind of an advertising profile around you it's it's anonymous unless you specifically give each individual service that information about you they simply don't have it all that they have is a random string of letters and numbers that identifies you and so if you put a name to it then that's great but there are a number of websites we're seeing that don't require any kind of a name or anything at all to to start to use them with digi id on the did you buy blockchain so that's really quite cool to see that kind of security and the privacy aspect of it as well being taken very seriously yeah that is interesting and and that's something that i i think i'm going to just keep an eye on personally over the next uh several years is how how the kind of the way we the way we use the internet will change because of these um these technologies and i think change for the better in terms of especially in terms of um you know just digital ownership and um keeping control on of your identity across you know across the whole internet i guess be interesting yeah for sure and that privacy aspect is definitely something that has kind of come to the forefront especially over the last year or two as we start seeing things like the whole cambridge analytica scandal and all of that kind of thing if people have unique profiles for each website but it's seamlessly done from their app all they do is they scan a qr code and they're logged in there's nothing else they've got to do it's super super simple but incredibly private and arguably more secure than a username a password and a timed uh one-time password on top of that like an ac missile indication it's more secure than that like and you can do it it's faster and it's easier this is like a win-win situation for everybody involved it's it's fantastic so i'm so excited for the future where we no longer have to use usernames and passwords anymore right yeah and that'll that'll be the interesting thing it's like when when that um intersection happens of you know it's a better experience and then it's also more secure and um and more private so you know that that that will be great once we get to that that point once we get to that but again it's it's a generational uh mind shift and so what we're seeing is obviously the likes of people who are coming they've only just kind of gotten used to the internet over the last sort of five to ten years and they're used to using usernames and passwords again this is now another shift so we do have that sort of battle on our hands where this sort of thing could take another decade or two to truly catch on and truly get into every corner of the internet where people finally understand you know what usernames and passwords suck don't use them right instead we've got this this better way of doing things that's faster and it's easier and you can do it all from your did you buy app on your mobile phone yeah that's that's a great reason to have the did you buy app yeah great um well i think we can uh wrap it up there i just wanted to uh say thank you again for for coming to uh the abramoney 3.0 show and kind of uh talking to us a little bit more about uh the digibite community and kind of how it all operates um i know as an outsider of the digibyte community it's just kind of always been something that's fascinating me especially as i hear from different parts uh of the community um kind of all over the world but but nonetheless sort of unified in this this vision so it's it's really cool to see that um so thanks again for joining us yeah thank you so much for having me on your show it's been an absolute honor and a pleasure and if people want to find out more the best thing they can do is go and just search for digibide thanks again for listening to the abramone 3.0 show we hope you liked this episode as much as we did if so please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and download the abra app wherever you get your apps thanks again