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uh welcome everybody it's uh it's it's different this it'll be great to see you all personally but it's these were communicating so um gooey mid dag i hope i said that right but uh uh i'm gonna my talk this afternoon is going to be on tomorrow's incubation rather than just automation so stepping right in uh agendas can just quickly about evolution of incubation what's available in basically in terms of the manufacturers automation equipment and manufacturers as well what are the kind of trends we're seeing going forward and new concepts and future developments in the hatchery business or automation and what to consider for the future so when we look at the evolution of incubation we come a long way from the 200 to 400 bc when the chinese and egyptians started incubating eggs in larger numbers or this chinese gang incubator or the egyptian archery where you can see these kind of ovens or these underground chambers where they used to place the eggs and keep them warm and extracted chimneys you can see here where the eggs are placed on the floor the light coming through the chimney was where they used to candle the eggs and then the baby chicks were just reared inside these warm corridors as well and when you look back then there was no automatic turning all the eggs had to be turned manually at least twice a day they didn't have any temperature sensors they placed the eggs close to their eyelid to check the temperature obviously this was a bad example there is two odds you know until we've seen like those smaller scales then we saw some of the large-scale drum machines to the fixed rack multi-stage machines to trolley loading multi-stage machines and today with those single stage machines which are or what we call all in all out incubation so if you look down at the which machines do we buy the choice of manufacturers the main ones really come from this list below with chickmaster uh mca m-tech tech james way lincoln pass reform and peterson and there will be there will be some other smaller names but these are the main uh operations commercially around the world and you can see if they got a range of selling single stage or multi-stage machines so just a little bit about each manufacturer and what they offer a little bit there some of their products they do and starting with chickmaster it was acquired by the international archery audience group which includes james way petersen nova tech and uh maxi which is an automation company in in nl in the netherlands you know the concern is whether james way continues with them or try to gain their market you know because chickmaster has lost lost all their established people their staff especially in europe you know over the last couple of years they offer a full range of incubators they have very good heat recovery systems and these standalone units called cc3 units and ventilation but we don't see or hear anything innovative since it's acquisition the main advantage over the tute mattress system is air only passes through one tray you know so it gets better air movement and more less variation and in the single stage machines they can have these fans which are bi-directional which can move the forwards and backwards to try and uh keep the temperature stable mkh is an operation based in the netherlands and it was founded by ex-peter cyberstaff its unique feature is this circular cooling pipe design and they keep higher water temperatures from centigrade they claim a drier action better check quality they offer co2 control and weight loss systems the concern is again is whether they'll be around or have a significant presence in years time and the build quality is a little bit questionable if you're not sure ask gregory art and you can emphasize on that mtech is a relatively new company it's set up by the former chickmaster uk team ken baker and mike osmond and if they do what we expect them to do they should take a lot of business away from chickmaster in the usa they've learned from their old working at the old buckeye or the chick master machines what the problems was and should have integrated better replacements or adapted the machines better for that they've had several new projects and new new installations which is good news from starting off they have a patented a fan with idor that gives a much better air distribution throughout the machine from top to bottom trays and gets more uniform eggshell temperatures and they claim this 0.6 degrees difference between their trays and you know on some checks we've seen this being pretty good as well they've gone away from the communal turning system back to electrical plugging system for better for more consistent turning angles and it's the only company currently which offers the pir panels or the fire retardant panels as standard in their machines other companies can offer it but it's something you have to ask for maybe the cost hashtag probably most people have heard of they're the trendsetters they're one of if not the most innovative incubation companies uh they're based in the netherlands as well and they're focused greatly on research they're the company started off really pioneering the eggshell temperatures as opposed to air temperatures which we commonly use today in the hatcheries they have a different approach to their ventilation system and uses lavender airflow which goes through the trays rather than sometimes a vertical direction with independent eating and cooling radiators in each section of the machine they also developed the attribute which is currently being updated to the hatch care which is their early feeding systems in the archery where they can give chicks have access to feed and water as soon as they're as soon as they hatch the hatch traveler is their truck which is designed again with the same airflow and can take larger numbers of chicks they have uh their own chick storage room and they develop the cycling which is replaces the plenums in archers so it can it's a bit like a dyson over where they can contain the chick fluff in that container as opposed to having a big storage area and the u-evaporator for the ultrasonic unification james way in the usa is really predominant for their presence in the u.s and australia they offer different size trade capacities but they have limited technical and backup support in many countries outside those places they also have introduced the absence which is almost like a machine to to recognize when the chicks start pipping and acting as a sensor to commit to reduce the hatch window or the time the chicks hatch and they have these kind of private temperature probes they can use to monitor their eggshells their egg temperatures in their machines as well lincol based in denmark relatively small in the incubator world but part of a large organization dealing with the fishing industry in other operations they're formerly known as was part of the funky uh group or funky incubators and one of the unique things is they have their cooling pipes are installed in their wall panels to try and ease the cleaning or aid the cleaning operation over machines past reform another dutch company it's a subsidiary of auto hydrotech industries never turnover of over a quarter billion but they also acquired nature form which is another manufacturer in the usa but mostly for game birds they have a range of their smart pro incubators again they have the cooling coils built into the wall panels they have a smart center which is which does a hatchery monitoring system you can also use it onto your phones they introduced a new chip counter and spray back system called smart count and also they have just realized released the smart start which is the their version of a post early feeding system with a patent which they share with hatch deck petersen based in belgium ghent uh the largest they sell more than twice as many machines as to any of their competitors they're a global operator and they've got uh very good support globally as well they're probably the first recognized single stage manufacturer and their kind of equipment includes embryo response incubation using the ovo scan uh co2 control dynamic weight loss to see how much the eggs lose during the from the start of incubation to 18 days the sinker ratch is the same as like what you saw for the james way there for the hatch window recognizing when the chicks start hatching their monitoring system is called eagle eye they've got eco drives which is for energy reduction systems and heat recovery systems i'm currently working on um early feeding systems as well the next subject we talk about is automation and it's really a case here of man versus machines and what you see especially in europe and a lot of parts of the world is is labor becoming more expensive and automation being introduced to reduce costs or get the efficiency of costs in africa a lot of the time is it's the companies are more inclined to try to want labor or promote more labor than that but you have to keep watching as you go for your cost efficiencies you know but this robot in the bottom here really interests me is uh i see it as a more cost effective option than the wife if you can do the right food and do washing up and everything so that could be interesting in the future who are the manufacturers there's a list here viscon very well known e-caps are taken over by siva innovatec cool american company prinzan pass reform peter sign maxi and sanova or the old stalker star captor operations so what kind of automation is there available you know out there in the market so if we look starting from the beginning of our process with eggs you can get machines to do egg grading training up or boxing you can do egg weigh-in you know your trolley layers so you can have platform scales so you can weigh your eggs before you incubate them and weigh them afterwards to get an accurate idea what the weight loss is uh transfer and the same for chicks also uh transfer from farm trays to cetera trays so you see these kind of machines here like these stackers they can transfer across you've got cracked egg detection systems automatic as well as manual disinfection systems in there you can get farm trolley washers and you can also have automatic turning during storage in your battery as well in your in your egg store so i'm hoping i have a lot of videos and i'm hoping this is going to work well this is one showing egg packing so you see here the trays of eggs are man this is manual unloading they're being picked up dropped onto a conveyor belt coming into a prinz and packer and you'll see the eggs here go for a series of rotations this pushes the pointed end downwards into the tray before they're loaded up onto the center trays and automatically stacked in the trolleys to go to the airground that's just one sorry well next stage in the hatchery is after 17 18 days and we come to transfer so we can do the candling and transfer operation which is kanden is identifying the infertile or the infertiles or early dead germs and transfer is moving these eggs from the center tray into a basket which will contain the jigs we have inovo vaccination so if we want to give vaccines to these in in the egg as opposed to doing vaccinations uh as dale chicks these stackers and re-stackers we can have after the canned in operation automatic back filling or so we can fill up trays with fertile eggs so we can get um less space and archers or use less archers but we don't recommend that to be hundred percent backfilling vacuum waste disposal or the clear eggs and we can even separate the liquid from the shell and go into tanks and this can be if there's uses of that where it can be sold more beneficial to for cost benefits we've got set of tray washers and center trolley washers so here's a operation this is in the uk you can see here this is the transfer operation trolley is going to be fed into this d-stacker which is going to take trays out and then place the trays onto a conveyor belt go through a candy machine transfer the empty trays will then go through to the washing machine and the transfer eggs will come back through the other side and baskets into a re-stacker to go to the hatches so you see here it's taking the eggs out place them onto the conveyor the candy units it identifies which is the infertiles or early deads and then there it will reject those eggs into the vacuum system straight to a tank and keep a record of how many they've got and then the trays will convey forward to this transfer there's a double transfer taking two trades at a time over into the baskets empty trays will go through to the washing machine and the transfer trays back here to a re-stacker you see them loading the baskets up on the trolley and then out transferred to the hatcher fio can everyone see these is it all working okay when we come to chick takeoff we can get these stackers your vo in the of the archer baskets we can get chick separators and machines which can separate the the chicks from the eggshells the vacuum waste disposal systems again and macerators so this is a pass reform uh d-stacker you'll see here let's just take the bask the trolleys and cheeks are placed into this machine and that's the trolley and the machine is just mat automatically placing the baskets onto a conveyor belt and there's a manual takeoff system on this archery to for taking chicks off but just a nice straightforward loop system taking baskets each time this system more this is a different one this is a poor um this gun's very good but this archery is very poor because you can see there's a corkscrew separator here so the basket is going to invert through this corkscrew tipping out the eggs and chicks it sounds crude but it works very effectively but what i don't like about this system is you can see here after the washing machine the clean baskets are going back this way this is in the dirt you know with all the dust in the room which is a poor operation and that's the chick baskets are coming from the the stacker here with the chicks in supplied to this uh corkscrew you see all the chicks and the eggshells coming out and then you have an air knife blower here knife blower here which is sucking up the eggshells and you'll see on the uh belt afterwards now just chicks going through to the grading station before they get camped to the counters also in chick processing we can just have conveyor systems grading stations uh sexting vaccination carousels automatic chick counters uh chickweed and some of these chick counters or weighing systems will automatically work out the uniformity especially the past reform counter the uniformity of your chips by flop uh de-stacking and restacking the chick boxes spray cabinets for vaccines uh for in parent stock and gp hatches the nova tech beat trimming equipment at your basket and chick box washers you can get units that can place paper liners into the baskets automatically air knife dryers you just seen dynamic storage systems i'll show you in a second and bar coding system so you can actually trace correctly all archery uh where your chicks come from which center which hatcher and go into the farm as well so this is just the boxed paper liner so you see the chick box going through from the d stacker new stack comes in lifts the stack up drops the bottom box feeds into this next machine where a roll of paper is passed through it gets embossed to give it grip and then the guillotine comes down cuts of paper and drops into the box automatically as the boxes get then fed to the chick counters this is for the gp or appearance stuff we have b trimming nova tech is i'm sorry this video is a little bit in reverse you can see this after they've been treated their belt's going through to the second selection or grading station so bear with me it'll come now in a second where the nova tech equipment is so after sexing the chicks are placed on this carousel come through on this belt and the carousel go around and the operative saying we'll see now in a second pick up the chicks it looks very crude but it's very effective places their chicks two at a time onto this uh into these positions the clamp comes in it's nothing nother than the chick and then you'll see this light as they pass through the light comes here the beak is exposed through a little tiny hole where a laser is exposed to a laser which will then make a ring around the beak and that will just uh die off and fall off after about seven to nine days which is much more accurate than what it is for people manually doing it on the farms and then those chicks drop through to the conveyor we saw below going back to the gradient so pretty common practice we see in a lot of parent stock and gp actually today chick counters you see the chicks coming off after the separator you'd like to see this gap where you have faster belts you can see a couple of faster shoots here which separates a chick so you can count more accurately this one's got fingers so when they count so many chicks the finger drops to go into the next box the box moves along starts counting again and these machines can count something like up to 60 000 chicks an hour probably up to 50 50 odd thousand very accurately so in this archery you've got two mish two machines here you can see the number one this side so they can count up to about a hundred thousand chicks an hour uh very easily and then spray back after they come out of these units the counting the boxes we'll come along to the spray unit so you see a nozzle up in here which is spraying the vaccine as andre said earlier a lot of places it's better if you can have the dye so you can see it on the chicks better as well but you see the spray come on now in a second you have to watch this also making sure that you don't get nozzles leaking too much and having faxing wastage the dynamic storage system you don't see too much of this but it's one of two places especially one big hatchery in orlando uh whereas the boxes are washed and dried they come down to shoot and then stack them onto these conveyors and you see these all these different rows that they can store uh thousands of boxes on this system and then this machine can start loading as one either side so we can start stacking them and then this goes along whichever lane you want to feed these boxes back into either transfer or to chick processing as they need them during production so this one is all underground it cost a lot of money but it's uh you know it's good your good use of the space so when you look at the automation the benefits you know able to provide the ability to maintain production rates predictability on schedules and minimizes the processing times it can help reduce costs you have an eye on initial cost of investment but then you get your year on year savings especially on labor and waste disposal if you're using something like this eating system where you can convert your waste into a pellet or like into a crumble which can be used for fertilizer you get about 40 percent less waste on that system reliability is becoming more more difficult to find good people they don't want the dirty work the unsocial hours or the repetition the health and safety reduces long monopolist routines heavy lifting bending dusty environments and performance generally we see reduced damage smoother movements better accuracy and repeatability for weighing counting and candling but you also have to bear in mind the following welfare you know how this is this equipment is designed and making sure you stipulate at the beginning that don't want poor welfare the issues were of handing of the eggs and the chicks for your people with safety making sure you've got correct guards limit switches and protection there making sure it's good and easy to clean to maintain your hygiene standards you need to make sure it's easy to maintain or you have good people that can maintain it you need minimal downtime the ease of servicing energy we don't look and see how much energy you have and sizing of motors etc noise can also be an issue and if you're going to put archery automation in just don't think about now but also for possible expansions as well and very important is the support have you got support locally the spare parts and do you have the people or the caliber of people to maintain the kit and most importantly is contingency planning automation is great but once you remove that numbers of people if something goes wrong you don't have that labor so that you get by now you manage this next session is just covering like what we're seeing is trends at the moment what's coming true so we're seeing that the the industry is becoming more and more retail driven with supply chain food safety and all the compliance the number of companies are reducing not just regionally or by country but globally they're becoming larger companies because they're growing by acquisitions leading to more cost-effective production but then you see larger farms larger hatcheries and we have several actions now producing over 2.5 million chicks a week and currently the largest is in russia which is doing 4.5 million chicks a week but ukraine as a facility and in the future that one archery will be able to do six million chicks a week or a million chicks a day we are seeing more and more vaccinations carried out in the hatchery and that will become you know that will continue going forward and more and more pressure for enhanced hygiene and biosecurity standards there's increased emphasis on bird welfare with antibiotic reproduction unnecessary mutilations early feeding systems and access to feeding water in some countries male culling in layers public and avada effects public opinions which is all driving the retailers for more visibility and for cost consumers as well we're going to see more automation we see actors at 2 million chicks a week operated with less than 20 staff they're more maintenance focused with increased automation and we're going to see larger incubators people trying to reduce their egg cost or their chip cost basis and in parent stock and gps we're going to see more use of heat treatment or spiders to help with egg age in incubation the companies are all looking all the time to develop their software to get faster responses better accuracies compatibility upgrades and some people now looking at also on self calibration the units for temperatures and humidities going forward their equipment there's going to be more and more pressure for energy efficiency reduced consumptions on fans motors and other parts of equipment there's some people working on wireless temperature logging systems for remote control you know so we can log into machines and see what's happening uh rather than being just here there's an extra as an extra tool and capacity most manufacturers are increasing exercise trays or a number of trays for trolleys you know you see 150 egg trade going to 165 or i'm seeing 32 trays in the trolley going to 36. you know mtex introduced a new 94 egg tray times two trays 188 eggs james is the only company that told me recently that they're looking to reduce because they're concerned with the increased embryo output and you know i think it's a key thing because we've seen it before years ago we had floors in the bot in our machines we take the floors out and increase the number of trays from 15 to 18 which affects our turning angles produces more heat without having any increased ventilation or cooling capacity so bigger things may be better but making sure they perform right is number one circadian incubation there's some work done in germany uh and looking where they eat eggs or put pressure on eggs to higher temperatures to try and make chicks more robust but you also have to look to make sure you're getting optimum performance that you're not losing performance just to try and make a chick more robust as a breeder an automation we're going to see more from robotics they're efficient and they're multi-purpose they can do several tasks not just one task we're going to see differences in new equipment for vaccination and how that can be handled you know as a company vaccine companies are working on this all the time inovo feeding is another area which is being covered you know we should probably look at doing the same thing as well as early feeding but but to do it even earlier which is to the for the uh in the egg automatic sexing or gene determination and already there's for the layer business there is a machine available now with the leg select and um where they which is operational by um using markers to determine which sex is a male or female also other company in israel which is looking on temperature which is still not available yet and traceability programs you know removing eggs and chicks in the hatchery automatic candling there's currently two main systems you can see not just these companies but using eight cameras and light sensors to determine the eggs or heartbeat detection so you can identify infertiles or very early dead or if it's a viable egg and these volumes i see increasing especially with the move towards on-farm action which needs the eggs to be the clear eggs to be removed before transfer to the farm and i expect to see more earlier detection systems with greater accuracy and data capture coming coming through in the future as well and cracked egg detection you know there's uh this gun are looking now using the artificial intelligence so camera detection rather than sensors which become non-invasive to the egg so we're going to look at this uh just go into this uh automatic section the select egg it's a scientific approach of endocrinological uh hormone-based gender identification and during this process the eight to ten day old incubated egg is removed from the incubator and uh you have sensors which check the whether the egg is fertilized what they do is they create a fine hole in the eggshell using lasers and then they just subtract a small amount of allentonic fluid from those fertilizer eggs and they can then use a marker to identify whether this is a female hormone or a male or man to know which chick is going to be and then the females will be used to put black into the trays and back into the incubators whereas the male action eggs will be removed and then processed so they can be used for high quality feed or fertilizers so here you can see the system you've got the eggs taken out these cameras so these laser beams will create a small uh hole in the egg and then we'll take out the samples into this marker which identifies which gene it is whether it's a male or a female and you've got this link you can see it on the youtube and uh so you see the eggs are placed into this into these positions there's the laser making the cut in the egg these are the markers to determine see four so they take every fourth egg or five so and then the eggs placed back into the trays to go back to the machines for action so more concepts waste disposal we're going to see alternative uses like pelleting or fertilizing to reduce costs you know a typical one and a quarter million chicks a week hatchery in eu will spend in excess of over 100 000 euros per annum or just on waste disposal probably much higher than that now yeah with hatchery trucks we've seen some better efficiency hatch check have already designed uh trailers which are 100 percent ivory battery driven traders with the the use of fresh air ventilation so they can reduce their energy costs by 50 to 80 percent ig you know there's work being carried out on monitoring systems to detect tbc mold presence visually by using chemical markers for quicker detection systems so work on that is going to be uh developed in the future as well and we've already got it but check holding tablets we're seeing several manufacturers moving to make these as well because uh we have better control we have some we have two in our lz lane archery which we're very pleased with um which maintains a temperature of these uh chicks much better and we take up a lot more floor space as well in the hatchery this gun this is quite interesting viscon are going to look to introduce this off-site supervisor and so using more smart technology by doing things like using smart glasses to from other lens too it's a company which is a software package they can support supervision to their engineers or to the companies is probably gonna be part of a package in time where by using these these glasses they can help you to rectify the problems you can produce 3d drawings on and save on having to have technical engineer visits where they can be done with your own people much quicker or for installation engineers where they can relate back to their base if there's any issues or faults they want to be resolved so it's quite quite good i see that's going to be could be used in a lot of applications going forward not just in actors and then the big question really is about uh traditional and early feeding or on-farm matching and the different systems we have is axe care which is the one in the hatchery we've got the on-farm systems which is venko matic the patio system nesporn the venkomatic extract which is taken over from patio uh smart start from past reforms coming through one to born that's clear we've seen before so i'm going to skip through this one a little bit but it's basically um where you see that the the eggs are on the tray above the basket and as the chicks start hatching they fall down below where these chicks have access to feed on one side and water on the other side so you see this is a water area it's a it doesn't recycle so it's fresh with clean water each time and they can get feed as well and so by taking these chicks away from the more of the eggshells you get a better environment we should give a healthier start i'm going to move on from this one and then more for the new concept which is on the farm which is removing the eggs at 18 days from this hatchery and placing them onto the farm and so we have things like want to born system so you can see how chicks have moved in these boxes placed on the floor and as they hatch out there be um i checked onto the litter the ice needs to be somewhat about 36 degrees centigrade so we can get the incubation right i'm going to skip this one i want to show you this one which is more than this born that's born one i see this system as being the one which is going to be more uh it takes off more practical because you'd have no investment on your farms the only investment needed is going to be for these machines which you'll probably rent which sets up because there's none of the expense of putting a lot of a lot of uh machinery into the sheds or anything just as long as you've got good eating capacity so here's the lorry bringing the trolleys of chicks from the farm from the archery sorry placed into the shed load them into the machines empty trolley replaced back into the trolley there's a temperature monitor which can be linked to the phone or to the computer so extract just very quickly see the eggs this is with a lot of investment on the machinery to put this cradle in so the eggs can be moved down the shed then the broiler eyes are not shed checking the temperatures cool temperature now you can see the trays are being moved along so they can take them out the waste disposal or count the empty eggs to see what the activity is just cut that short so it comes short of time so it's um but those systems are seem to be doing very well be on the especially on farm because you're taking away a lot of that bacteria flora from those chicks when they start hatching so you see less antibiotic use better starts less stress for those chicks and better body weights as well at the start so the last section really is what to consider you know your incubator size you don't want to have big machines if you've got small flocks you end up putting five blocks into a machine making it more difficult to control the temperature the compatibility with the existing business existing business for the tray and basket type your service your backup whether that supplier is going to be there long term it's going to be sustainable and the cost your first cost is the best cost i always say that because people will try to say the larger machines because they're going to be cheaper but they have to work well examples in south africa i have two examples where people bought 24 trolling machines instead of the 12 trolley but then they had small flocks of 8 000 10 000 breeders and they're never going to work the same because they won't have the same temperature control so the choice is yours wherever you want to build go back into the history and build another pyramid or you want to look for some of the new technology but one thing is important regardless of the industry being driven by innovation and technology we still need the stockmanship i'd like to acknowledge these people for their information and their help in this presentation thank you very