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so I've given this talk not you know this exact talk but a version of this in a quality discussion with customers and you know we talked about how things have changed in the cloud cadence and the combine engineering and ship flap and you know at the end of the presentation they say wow that seems pretty drastic I don't know if you are ready to do that and the reality is that you know our testing approach at Microsoft has been evolving for quite some time I would say for more than a decade so before I go into what happened during the cloud cadence I'll just give you a quick history of what happened before that because the customers that you might talk to they may be at different phases in this transformation and you know I won't spend too much time in the h3 but hopefully that will give you a sense of how to kind of guide the customers through this in case they are somewhere you know prior to where the cloud cadence happened in bsts so you know I'm going to take you back to 90s you know so for as long as Microsoft shipped product we we always had three distinct disciplines in in a product team you know PM Devon Tosh PM's gather customer requirements wrote specs dev wrote code and design code and test road tests roughly we would have a 1 is to 1 is to 1.5 ratio it kind of varied by teams but that's the general ratio we used now within test we are two distinct disciplines now many people may not know this but this was a unique set up at Microsoft where within test we would have a software design engineering test these are the s debts who developed the automation the test infrastructure etc and then software test engineer or the STS who ran the automation or who ran manual tests and this is a key point the software design engineering touched we are hired you know by the very similar qualification as these of design engineers or the developers you went to the same colleges and if you hired from industry would pretty much higher developers and then convert them into SD it is you know remember this point where I come and talk about the combine engineering because this is this is important in in particularly the way the test discipline was set up at Microsoft so how did it work well it worked reasonably well back in the days you know we achieved commercial success with big products like Windows and Windows and Office one of the benefits of this model was that when we are ready to do a product sign-off you will have the quality discipline of the test discipline bring in a very formal sign of criteria and and formal measurements in quality and so that give us a pretty good confidence in you know declaring a product...