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[Music] it's fair to say that true crime is having a moment well maybe a little bit more than a moment i don't think a week goes by where there isn't a true kind podcast at the top of the charts and i admit i'm one of those die hard fans that might be keeping them there but with few exceptions these stories are reported somewhere else first often a dogged newspaper reporter has been following the story for months or even years before a podcast team shows up with their microphones the way i like to work is sort of more holistically if i'm covering the murder i also want to cover the trial and then maybe a parole hearing down the road or maybe the death of that offender even eventually down the road but what we don't really hear about is what it's like to actually do that work to knock on those doors and talk to witnesses to sit in a courtroom for months on end and get to know the victim's family he said to me people like my sister are expendable people just don't care about her to grapple with the hard ethical questions about what to publish and what to leave out this was a high point for me in my professional life and in a minute it was a nightmare that i had published something that was going to destroy this trial and when all those choices are made and the story is published it's their name that goes on top their byline so in this podcast we're going behind the byline we'll talk to journalists about the stories that made their careers the cases that change the way they see the world and the crimes that continue to haunt them it's tragic right you could see the freight train coming and you couldn't stop it from post media and antica productions this is true crime byline subscribe wherever well you know what to do