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about good evening everyone i'm really happy to be with you today i'm so happy to to have you also today and i would like to apologize for the gab of 20 days it was a major changes that happened to my life i had a new girl a new baby girl called maria she's a major change in my life and i'm really happy for having here and my family and i'm sorry for any inconvenience that might happen to i mean in your schedules and let's hope that this was like a break for everyone because this is a long uh program and i hope you you had a time to review and at least to have a break so thank you so much thank you dr manal and uh thank you everyone for being patient with me uh so let's start today i'm really [Music] eager to talk to you today about beneficiaries and how we could uh explore more about the idea of beneficiaries and in proposal writing today's subject is actually a huge implications on not only developing the proposal writing but also you need to to understand what it means in terms of beneficiaries beneficiary calculation a single count double count especially on especially on monitoring and evaluation and and collecting of data and evidence of project activities and indicators tracking so today will be really uh important um and hopefully you you will get new insights from what we will present and i will be glad also to receive your comments on today's subject and any other subjects we discussed before and let me share with you the slides and let's start as i mentioned today everything will be related to beneficiaries and this is session 8 i think it's it's the fourth session in terms of proposal writing so it's all going to be about beneficiaries let's explore and let's discover new things so uh the objectives of today's subject is mainly to to understand more about direct beneficiaries and indirect beneficiaries and what's the difference between both direct and indirect but also in terms of indirect beneficiaries we have what is called both initial beneficiaries when are we going to need this term but initial beneficiaries and why it's different from indirect beneficiaries and we have also another term it's called people reached maybe those of you who who didn't work before in democracy and governance projects maybe these building projects sometimes we use a lot these these terms both beneficiaries and people reached so today we will talk about people reached and also the beneficiary conclusion how can we calculate the total number of beneficiaries at the level of the project but also we will discuss how we calculate that the targets within each uh individual indicator when we develop the logical framework so let's dig in deep into today's subject um we are every day we are showing this uh figure just to see that we are progressing so now we are talking about beneficiaries maybe we can talk a lot about activities and work plan but all we will we will come back to it uh so and today we will focus mainly on this part of the proposal and it's actually a very important part because it is part of the indicator and the indicator is is the heart of the logical framework and the heart alcohol project so let's go types of beneficiaries we have uh we usually use these two terms direct beneficiaries and indirect beneficiaries and we could we could classify them or we could have these uh parts uh of of the direct and indirect beneficiaries so usually indirect beneficiaries we we consider those that beneficiaries that are direct beneficiaries as primary beneficiaries and in many times with many donors for example the uni uh european union or european commission they usually use the term of finance final beneficiaries so who are the final beneficiaries and the primary beneficiaries and also as you'll notice here we have with with the with the direct beneficiaries we are having the target groups and stakeholders and the three categories are still direct beneficiaries so the stakeholders target target groups and final beneficiaries then we have the indirect beneficiaries we have what is called secondary beneficiaries we have the potential beneficiaries and we have the people reached um we will start with the direct beneficiaries we always use this figure since the first day of of this program so it's this diagram is our friend we will use it and we we really need to to use it every time to to show the links between the different parts of the strategy and uh situation analysis the problems analysis and now we are talking about the direct beneficiaries depending on the same figure uh as you notice here we we always say that the heart of all what we do is the the final beneficiaries or the affected people what we do is in order to help these people who are in the center of the target so when we implement the activities and when we when we provide the services or when we conduct the activities we we have the affected people after the they receive what we have to receive they will become the final beneficiaries um also we will have what is called the target group so we we we mentioned that these these afflicted group are usually influenced by these groups so for example family families and communities are affecting the the the affected people also the service providers whether they are education providers for example teachers or health service providers like doctors and nurses and midwives also we have the service facilities staff for example the masters or principals of the schools or we could have the the health managers the the health supervisors nutrition supervisors and so on so these these uh uh the staff the management staff at the level of the service facilities are considered uh another target group maybe we could call it as as we mentioned here is target group three and then we will move to uh local authorities sometimes local authorities at the district level at the sub-district level um even at the national authority as the national government at the national level we could measure we could we could consider them stakeholders so stakeholders are those who are having interests in in the objectives of the projects and they are they like they have direct influence we could affect the implementation whether in a good way or in a bad way so as long as they have direct implication on the program then we will consider them as stakeholders and we need to consider them during implementation of the projects through coordination with them through the analysis of their uh positive or negative power on the project so we we we have to meet them we have to talk to them about our project we have to ask them to help us to accord to to facilitate some some activities that are related to uh the projects so the these will be stakeholders in general the direct beneficiaries will be the people that receive the service or activities so they are the final and these people if they if they have attended awareness activities if the the service providers were receiving training if the service facilities staff received tools or trainings um also that the local authorities of the attended workshops or if if we met them and we conducted many meetings with them um then all of them would be direct beneficiaries in order to dig uh more i mean into this uh this thing we we need to understand that when we talk about the final beneficiaries or or the direct beneficiaries they are the people that we have their names so uh so maybe maybe i could i could even uh add something here is that we have we have the names so uh i i also i already mentioned it here but in order to to make it very uh clear so that the direct beneficiaries are the group that we we could have their names so if the donor asked us to provide the names of the final beneficiaries or target groups or stakeholders who attended the workshops who are in the training so receive tools who received services and maybe assistance with their food water sanitation whatever then we we could have their lists of names so this is the the most critical thing in terms of direct beneficiaries is that we can prove we we have the the lists of their names for example if we are providing a health services through mobile clinics or through fixed clinics then we take the name of every people i mean every person that come to our clinic we write their names we write what kind of services they had their age uh where they are from um whether it's like a new beneficiary or recurrence beneficiary so as long as we are recording the names then we are direct beneficiaries and also in terms of the like when we provide food services so when we provide food assistance or cash assistance or even livelihood supports we usually register beneficiaries we have the lists of the names uh of these beneficiaries we have them registered we have them verified so we we have also cards for them so at the end we have the names of beneficiaries so that we consider them direct and this is also applied and for the target groups if they are teachers or are like they received salaries or they received trainings or they receive tools uh school kits teaching kits if they are service providers sometimes for example midwives we give them we do three cats we give them trainings so they are target groups and then we consider them direct beneficiaries and we have the lists the lists of their names seen for stakeholders of the attended workshops we have the list of the attendance and so on that's that's the major or the most important part and i repeat it again and me many times because this is the most clear uh indicator that what we what we talk about is the direct beneficiaries whether they are final target or stakeholders they think this is more than enough to talk about about the direct beneficiaries and for sure i will receive any uh like more questions about them in case any one of you have like some questions so if we are talking about entire beneficiaries then for sure they are the people whom we cannot identify by their names as long as we don't have the list of their names or we don't need their names to show it to anybody the donor will never ask about the names of the indirect beneficiaries we will just so maybe they will ask us about the numbers how many indirect beneficiaries are we going to serve then we give them a number they never ask us for like an evidence for for this number sometimes they might ask for an evidence or sometimes not uh like for example uh we we will give like uh more examples to show like for example if we are rehabilitating a health center and we provide equipment maybe providing also uh services in this health center then the people that came during the direct like the duration of the project will be direct beneficiaries but for sure this project is not benefiting those who visited us during the lifetime of the project but also uh will benefit the those people that uh that will come even after the end of the project because they will use the same equipment they will benefit from the wash services we we rehabilitated in the health center we will use the same equipment maybe we will use even some uh medications that we left or supported like the health center with so in general these are indirect beneficiaries because they will come like on different times other than that the time of or the duration of the project so for example one one time one donor asked us to prove to provide an evidence of the the total number of the indirect beneficiaries so we asked that then the health office in in the governor rate it was in american government rates in yemen and we asked the help as the health office in the governorate to provide us an evidence the evidence of how many people population are served by the health center we supported and then this this official letter was a clear evidence for the donor that these people will be a and indirect beneficiaries so indirect beneficiaries are not those who have whom we have their names the potential beneficiaries is another uh term that is used by some donors or some maybe uh international aid agencies mainly the usaid like the united states agency for international development they are usually asked about the potential beneficiaries and also when when the project is is a governance project then usually they they want us to talk about potential beneficiaries because it's like in on on democracy and governance projects on journalism and media on peace building projects these kind of projects you you don't have a physical assistance so most of the activities are kind of awareness messages whether through radio through tv through uh distributing of brochures pamphlets booklets writing like articles online uh posts and social media or whatever so how can we know who are the beneficiaries it's it's difficult so usually we we usually use the people reached so people reach are the people that we did not meet face to face but we received brochures or watched tv uh listen to the video or read the first facebook or other social media posts that we published or have an awareness magic messages in so these are the people reached so they are not we we never consider them beneficiaries because the beneficiaries will be the people who we we meet face to face so if we meet if we if we met the people face to face during our initiations awareness activities if we could receive their like questions and we give them feedback like on timely pieces we could consider them direct beneficiaries for example if we are doing training online and we we meet the people they ask us we we we respond in the same time they will not be people reached they will not be put in shell they will not be indirectly will be a direct beneficiaries but if the if we don't meet them face to face either online or or we cannot receive their questions and give them feedback then we are not direct beneficiaries i will give a more example so hopefully we will uh we will clarify this more and i will give um i will give like true or or facts like from from our uh uh implemented projects uh whether during my my work uh and oxfam during my work in nf dhr or others so we could we could use it as an examples so for example here we implemented a project called a community total sanitation it was big projects we worked on more than 131 villages for people like that the people living on these villages we are more than 36 000 people all of them the the uh they had intensive awareness messages to to improve their sanitation and to have it covered uh so all the the all of them the the built letterings or toilets uh bathrooms and then we connected this to covered pits so these covered pits became very safe and the sanitation became very safe so the idea whom are our direct beneficiaries in this big project they are the people that that live in the same villages so for example if we targeted the people living in this house then we are direct beneficiaries and the total number of these beneficiaries that improve their sanitation we're 36 000 people in 131 villages but whom are or or who are the indirect beneficiaries they are all the people living in the two targeted districts especially the villages that are like for example this village is on a mountain and while there are many villages down like below this village so if for example when uh for example when when there is a rain or like during heavy rain usually therein comes and clean all the uh sanitation and take it with with with vereen and and this is going to all that like the water sources and then it will become infected by uh human defecation and like human excreta or bacteria and then they will become more vulnerable to diarrheal diseases so people who are like living below this level will will have the water sources infected because of the sanitation of the of of like the people living on on higher villages like the mountainous mountainous areas so when we improve the sanitation of the mountainous uh areas usually that the people living below are indirect beneficiaries because when we implemented the project it was not meant to be implemented for them so for example if we if you need us to provide you with the names of these people we have them uh we have the names of the uh like the villages we have the names of the beneficiary uh families they remember uh like uh like family members and so on but if you ask us to provide you with the names of 120 000 people who are direct indirect beneficiaries that are living within the same district although they will they will benefit because the scientifician has improved but we don't have their names and we don't know whom they are exactly and we will never need to collect their names that's why they will be considered indirect beneficiaries usually in water scientist this is very clear but hopefully um i could clarify it in in the right way for example we implemented this project in 2014 in in amran after that the war that happened there on may 2014 uh so we rehabilitated 14 schools uh this was one one of these the schools and if we talk about india and the direct beneficiaries we were all they were only the students boys and girls that we're studying in the 14 rehabilitated schools at the same school year so for example during the project implementation we could provide names for only 6500 direct beneficiary students who were involved or whom were registered and enrolled to the schools at the same school year which was 2014-2015 school year so these were the direct beneficiaries but actually the there will be a lot of students a lot of kids boys and girls who are going to study in the schools in the scene 14 rehabilitated schools they will they will benefit from from the like from school from like the rehabilitation from the equipment that we will that we have provided um so in general they will be we call them potential beneficiaries or we could consider them indirect beneficiaries we will be twenty percent of the total number of population in the targeted areas so for example these these uh schools we are in in four districts so we were estimating that at least um at least 40 000 students or kids will benefit in the coming few years maybe like in the next 10 to 20 years as a result of the project but if the donor asked us to provide the names of these people of course we don't have because they will benefit from the the rehabilitation but on the coming years not during the implementation of the project so they will be a potential beneficiaries or they will be indirect beneficiaries uh another example is is for example this is a livelihoods project we distributed livestocks sheep for 350 or i think it was for 300 um families so for the 300 families we distributed cheap or livestocks uh if you if you asked about about the direct beneficiaries there will be 300 if we like for example buy seven which is the average number of people per family uh in yemen so we will have 2 100 people benefited from the intervention or from distributing of live stocks but whom are the indirect beneficiaries from this activity or from this project we don't know exactly but i mean when i see we don't know it it means that we don't know during writing the proposal when we when we develop the proposal we don't know the indirect beneficiaries but we know for sure that there will be indirect beneficiaries so for example the sellers so for example we distributed this ship uh that we we we bought them from from sellers from the same areas so those families who sold their sheep are also beneficiaries because they they benefited from buying uh their sheep so they they have cash or they had um good cash at the time of the implementation of the project and this this cash for sure will benefit them for the short run so they will be indirect beneficiaries when we develop the project because we don't know at the time whom they are going to be and and that's why the donor will never ask us how many the uh or or to provide an evidence or the lists of their names at the end of the project in the health project for example we although these these pictures are from different types of of projects but as an example we um we implemented one uh health activity i mean one health uh project uh which included rehabilitation of four health centers and hospitals uh also we provided equipment uh and furniture also we provided uh health services uh through two health centers so in general during this project we had direct beneficiaries who are the people the people that received health support or health services during the six months of the time of implementation of the project we we're almost about 48 000 people and we can provide the lists of their names as an evidence that the the received assist the health support and medications but we had indirect beneficiaries who are they they will be the people that live in this in the targeted sub-districts and the they are going to be 120 000 people uh so we consider them indirect beneficiaries and then we we don't have the list of their names and we don't need to provide the list of the names because they will not come during the time of the project but for sure because they are living in the same area they will come to the hospital someday in their life so they will be a potential beneficiary or they will be an indirect beneficiaries another example is that in 2012 i worked on two governance projects so for example we we implemented this i was working for uh rgb it was the responsive governance project it was uh supported and implemented by supported by usaid and implemented by counter-barred international and then we were advocating for for the safe motherhood motherhood flow through our implementing partner was human family care association at that time and then uh for sure when we when we implement a project for advocate advocating for a sieve motherhood's law we don't we don't have direct beneficiaries because because women will benefit for sure from this law but we don't know who they are and also they will be all women at at productive age so for example uh usually um as as an international like uh estimations usually they they say that 20 of the total population at any given time or at any area will be the women in productive and or at productive age so for example in yemen if we have 13 million or or if we have or if we had 25 million uh people in yemen then we will have five million women as potential beneficiaries from the safe motherhood law that that are that we were advocating advocating for during that project so this is a great example for potential beneficia beneficiaries because it's like huge number and we don't know their names and they will benefit all over like the the targeted country or or areas but we don't know whom they are and we don't know their names so we are potential beneficiaries um another example is that we we conducted uh uh an awareness on the importance of the national dialogue conference and this was in 2012 and uh and 2013 actually and we were printing uh awareness messages on two million water bottles and 900k or 900 thousands of electricity bills on sana so we distributed these electricity bills uh to almost at 300 uh thousands families in in a city uh so we we're estimating that the people reached by by the awareness messages will be more than 2.9 million people in sama city so why we didn't consider them indirect beneficiaries we don't consider them directly indirect or direct because we we don't know if the if we are actually going to read the awareness messages and also we don't know that we will actually uh know any idea about it so we will consider them people reached because the they will like that the awareness message will go to their house but we don't know are they going to read it or not are they going to to benefit from it or not so we consider it people reached so people reached are those that receive awareness messages whether through brochures pamphlets uh booklets uh radio social media posts or tv shows anything related to uh like media is going to be people released and for sure we cannot provide their names um i hope that these these these were like giving like more insights uh and i hope i i added something uh of course we we we still have 30 minutes to go on a beneficiary calculation but i will stop at this time to see if there are any uh questions at this level i will i would be happy to to answer uh thank you so much uh for for okay yeah so if anyone has any questions related to beneficiaries i would be happy to answer and for sure we can talk more on linkedin or in any anytime you want to ask um [Music] great i i think no no questions perfect so i will i will uh continue uh talking about the beneficiary calculation and and hopefully i will give you more insights on on the beneficiary collisions too so let's go yes how so how to calculate the final beneficiaries of the project this is really important as usually um before we start talking about beneficiary conclusions usually donors are are all agreed that beneficiaries identification should be and must be disaggregated by age and six so we don't say uh for example uh 10 000 students this is not enough we need to see how many boys and how many girls we we should not see how like for example we have 20 000 people benefited from the projects or 20 000 beneficiaries we should say how many people that are men how many are women that are above 80 years old 18 years old years old and also how many are uh girls and boys who are less or under 18 years old so this this this is a kind of very well known or very much used term with uh donors they usually see disaggregated by each and sixth the disaggregation should be based on population since us and the targeted countries so for example this at this aggregation based on each is is going to be different and also based on six will be different for example i'm here in lithuania women are higher more than men um so there will be like differentiation like while when we talk about yemen it will be uh different because in the senses we we we take this as as a kind of guideline and we we use it i will give you the example of yemen and it will be applied to any other country so for example we we have what is called beneficiary calculation and i still remember we used this formula very much when i was working with a world world health organization we we used this when we were drafting the the yemen humanitarian response plan i was working at the time with the health cluster and we were we were helping to provide the health um strategy for the whole sector and we were calculating the number of beneficiaries by by this beneficiary conclusion formula uh also we used the theme in oxfam we used the sim in nfc jr and in all other uh trainings that we are doing and it could be applied anyway so for example in yemen according to the census the population the latest population since although it was old like it was like from 2003 but we as long as it's the only official one then we will have to use uh like the same figures and apply to our calculations so for example uh the population by uh like this aggregation by six in yemen uh the people will be 49 percent meals and and 51 females so this is the disaggregation by sex but if we are talking about the segregation by age or by age then we have men over 18 40 percent and and and let's say that by age is usually over 18 40 percent and and younger or under 18 will be 60 so this is applied to both men and women if you notice here meals because it was sex then we said meals but when we talk about age then we we don't use meals we say men because they are above uh 18 and we say boys they are below or under 18. so boys and men are males but this is disaggregated by age and then women and girls are females but segregated by age like the same idea this this kind of formula is really important i hope uh every one of you will will be able to think about it once we send the the training material you could go through it and think about it a lot when we when you uh when you uh do the beneficiary equal collisions so i would give you a ah an example that will clarify what it means and how we are using it uh and how we are applying the beneficiary conclusion formula during uh identification of the numbers of beneficiaries and i hope it will be clear and and and a symbol so for example we are we are going to support at 10 health facilities um for providing primary maternal and child care services for 12 months so the duration of the the project that we are now writing will be 12 months and we will target 10 health facilities in order to calculate the expected number of beneficiaries we will do the following we will assume that each health facility each one of these 10 will provide health services for 20 people every day and we will assume also that every health facility will work at least 22 days every month so we will have 20 to 22 days every month and we will have a 20 people uh each day in the same health facility like from the given information we will we will start to see the number of beneficiaries meals and females in the month in one health facility will be 20 people every day um and the health facility will work for 22 days will be 440 people per month in one health facility then the number of beneficiaries males and females in 10 targeted health facilities per month will be for this was for was for one health facility but we are serving 10 then 10 health facilities uh by 440 we will we will will be having four thousand four hundred people uh that will benefit from the services in one month but the project will will continue for 12 months so this number we will uh it will be like uh times 12 so this number for one month times 12 then we will have 52 800 people that will receive um health services uh in 10 10 health facilities during the 12 months so our total number or expected number of beneficiaries males and females are 50 to 800 people let's see now that now we have we have this number but it's not disaggregated by age and six yet so we have just the total now what we calculated is the total at this level so we need to distribute the total by each and sixth as we just discussed before this is our formula i put it like below the the slide so for example when we do when we start to disaggregate by agent sex we will have we will start with the number of men what is the number of men out of the the 52 800 people how many men are there or are expected to be part of this figure then we will have the formula we we mentioned that meals are 40 49 in yemen so we will have the total uh times this percent which is point 49 of of the total then because we are talking about men men are above are over 18 years old so we will have this percent so it will be like this this equation will be times uh 0.40 we will end up having 10 349 min this is number of men the theme will be applied for women we will have the total number which is 52 800 people times 0.51 because we have females are 51 it will be times 40 because we are talking about women who are over 18 years old then we will end up having ten thousand seven hundred seventy one same thing will be then with the number of boys the total number of beneficiaries times uh uh like the total number of confusion is 50 to 800 times uh 49 because now we are talking about meals so we will still come back to this figure and then because we are talking about the belu i like that the boys younger than 18 it's 60 percent so it will be uh times when 60 as you notice here in men we said times 40 because of this and here we see time 60 because of this so we will end up having a unexpected number of boys of 15 523 uh boys number of girls are usually the the biggest numbers in our equation so usually the total number of beneficiaries uh are 50 to 800 times 0.51 times 0.60 because this is because we are females so we we took this and then because we are below 18 so we we will use point 60 and we will end up having 16 157 girls and these are like the expected numbers of of the population disaggregated by age and sex and we distributed them according to the beneficiary conclusion formula that is provided here and then these numbers we will put them within the indicator as the logical framework so we will have this logical framework we have the the indicator and we have the target so number of beneficiaries in all targeted health facilities will be like this men are ten thousand three hundred forty nine women will be ten thousand seven hundred seventy one boys will be five fifteen thousand five hundred twenty one girls six thousand sixteen thousand one hundred fifty seven within the total or the same total which is 52 800 uh beneficiaries uh this is a a really a nice example uh it it has many stages and many calculations but i hope it was it was clear i would also give you another example for example uh when we when we are trying to identify the expected number of pregnant women so if we go back to this number we have i will try to decrease the the size of the font so we have good figures yes so for uh when we talk about the total number of of beneficiaries is 52 it's a hundred if we want to know how many women although here we talked about 10 771 total number of women that are above 18 years old but how many women that would that might or that we expect that that you will be pregnant uh out of this number so how we do that we know that the annual growth rate for example uh the annual growth rates in in yemen is 30 percent every year it's it's high growth actually but as long as it's three percent every year so the project or our project is is for 12 months this means that during the 12 months of the lifetime of the project the anti-netal services or the the services that we provide for pregnant women will be uh the percentage of pregnant women will be three percent of the total number of population or the total number that we mentioned that it's 50 to 800. so at this this this total number will be timed by point zero three which is three percent of the total uh number so we will end up uh having this figure which is 1584 expected pregnant women that will be served with antenatal care during the project lifetime and and then we we reflect this number of women received antenatal care services then they will be for sure zero zero zero because we talked about women that are pregnant only so they will be 100 uh 1584 as we calculated uh during the the the same example so in general when we do when we do beneficiary calculations we will need to consider beneficiary conclusion for all the indicators at the level of the logical framework at the level of impact outcome output and activities of course when the indicators are percentage then they are uncountable but if they are numbered they start to do number than they are countable but i will i will talk more about what it means countable and uncountable uh figures so for example uh we have these these like one uh let's start from here we have a one two three four five indicators and let's see that we have five indicators how many total number of beneficiaries within the project uh these are the the indicator these are the the target and then we have this we call it we call this this um this table we usually have it on an excel sheet we we call it beneficiary calculation sheet so this is a beneficiary calculation sheet we put uh the indicator target single count double count or uncountable and then are we going to calculate this this figure or not within the total so we need to consider this we need to identify which one of these uh indicators are single count which is double count which is uncountable and also are we going to calculate it uh in the total number of beneficiaries are we going to include it or not so let's see for example we have this uh education project so we have we have these uh activities are and and reflected by these indicators for example number of students benefited from school bags and stationery because we are talking about students so for sure we are below 18 years old so no men no women we will have for example boys 5 thousands girls 5 000 then as we are expecting that we will have 10 000 beneficiaries that are going to be students uh boys and girls as long as it is the first one then we consider it a single count um and it's the first one and the the number that covers the number of of whole targeted children within the same project so we consider it as a single count and yes we will calculate this number as part of the total number of beneficiaries of the project then we have number of students benefited from rehabilitation of the tin schools uh in this project we we were like uh rehabilitating 10 schools for for example this is an example uh so in these 10 schools we expect that there will be 10 uh the same 10 000 uh students so we put them the same but are we going to calculate them again as in the total no because we already calculated them in the previous indicator because we are the same these five thousands are still the same and these five thousand are still the same five thousand boys so we will we will not have twenty thousand people because they are the same figure and the same people so we we consider this as a double count the previous one was already considered a single count so the number or the total here is is not twenty thousand the hotel uh with import uh indicators is only ten thousand um here the percent uh percentage of beneficiaries satisfied from services provided by the project uh when we when we talk about percent then we don't have men women boys and girls usually it's zero zero zero zero and we will talk about only the the total percent number of beneficiaries and we expect usually this is the the accepted and um agreed upon like percentage it's like at least 80 percent of beneficiaries should be satisfied by the services but because it's a percent how can we con it's not people it's just reflecting that the percentage of uh satisfied beneficiaries so we we consider this indicator as unaccountable and we we call it an importer 365 we have what is called only total we consider this figure as only total we don't need to die disaggregated so we don't need any disaggregation for for the percentage uh or for indicators that started with the percentage so for sure no we don't include this et as number of people because as me as we mentioned it's not number of people it's it's percentage of satisfied people uh so what and here what the number of parents attended awareness sessions because it's parents we are uh above uh 18 years old and that's how we expect so it will be three thousand for example the three thousand uh people will attend awareness uh sessions three thousand women or uh or mothers will attend um our institutions no children no boys and girls then we will end up having six thousand people of course they are not from the final beneficiaries they are from the targeted group as we discussed in the the first uh part of the session but still the the the participated phase two fees and decisions we might uh calculated their names within the activity report so we can provide the names of the participants in on these sessions so we will consider them as direct beneficiaries and we can calculate them and we consider them as a single count and yes include this figure or the total of parents as part of the total number of beneficiaries the theme applied for a number of teachers streamed on modern teaching methodology methodologies uh for example we will we will clean or we will provide training for 50 million teachers or male teachers and and 50 female or women teachers uh so that the total number will be a hundred zero zero four boys and girls it will be a hundred women and men teachers because they are they are not part of the above numbers calculated so they are still considered as single count because it's different group it's not boys it's not students not parents so it's different groups service providers so we still consider them single count and yes we will include them as part of the direct beneficiaries and with the the total number of beneficiaries then at the end the total number of beneficiaries will be uh we will conclude like uh like this is like a kind of framework we can calculate either way still we will get the same figures so we will have uh 53 3050 3050 5000 5000 16 000 and 100 as you notice here if we if we calculated every number here we will end up of 26 100 but because this is not uh calculated this is just a double count then we don't include it as part of the total so that's how we we calculate uh the total number of beneficiaries as part of the beneficiary calculation sheet uh thank you so much yes i think we came to the end of of uh today's talk about uh and to decisions about uh calculation of beneficiaries and beneficiaries in general um today or this week assignment will be to to to continue working on our parts of the proposal related to beneficiaries so we talk about the number of beneficiaries the direct and indirect and then we we we try to calculate the number of beneficiaries and the logical framework for each indicator and then we we disaggregate also the numbers thank you so much for your time and for attendance i will be also i will be happy to to respond to your questions in case you have some questions uh yes any questions i will be happy to answer if you don't have any questions then for sure you will you will receive the the the video uh or the recording of the video by a link to the youtube and also we will provide you with that the material as a pdf and hopefully you will you will learn more about uh i'm sure most of you have already worked and used this in your previous programmings and proposals hopefully this will clarify some parts of your questions if you might have and let's uh meet again uh next week same time and i hope that this time from from five to six is is much better timing because many people we're complaining about the previous timing from three to two four and from three to five most of uh participants were not able to participate so uh all of our or most of the the participants are now depending on the recordings and the continue watching recordings and come back to me and we talk individually on on linkedin um thank you so much for your time and i i i will wish you a great and lovely evening and see you next week bye you