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do you have a book or planner that you would really like to have printed and sell or maybe deliver as a freebie or a bonus content for one of your coaching programs or one of your online courses well I have a solution for you and it does not include Kinkos because I know that was probably your first thought and it doesn't include going to an overseas manufacturer where the minimum order count is the thousand so today we're going to talk about my number one recommendation and why I didn't recommend some of the others hi I'm Lisa from pretty fabulous designs and I online business owners create beautiful digital downloads using Adobe InDesign now if this sounds like you are something you might be interested in make sure to hit the subscribe button below I post new videos every Monday and Thursday no today we're going to be talking about how to publish your books whether that is a workbook it is a planner it is something small it doesn't you want it higher quality than what you can get at Kinkos but you don't need to order in bulk of a thousand which is sometimes the minimum that is required by many printers over in China or in Vietnam or overseas where the prices are a little bit less expensive so for me I just wanted to print out a 30-day planner and this one actually has a stain on it but I went to print out a 30-day planner and I didn't really need a lot it only needed a hundred and I had tabs in here now tabs you'll notice if you don't have tabs I will say there were other printers I found that were less expensive and were just as good but they were not able to create tabs so the ability to create tabs speciality of planners is something that is I would say very difficult but it was very challenging to find someone who would print tabs and also someone who would print colored tabs forms right so my tabs were pretty involved they had a quote on them and they also had text obviously on the edge of the tab now I looked at the ton of vendors and I never want to say anything bad about anybody so I am happy to share that in private if you PM me or ask about somebody in the comments below but as far as the best quality and finding someone who's really good at customer service because let's face it it's really important especially when you have these smaller orders that you're getting customer service because maybe this isn't something you do all of the time and it's you know if you're ordering a hundred it's probably because you can't afford to order 10,000 I think it was I don't want to say John Lee Dumas there was another guy who's like this big online personality and he was interviewed by Joanna Penn recently and he said he ordered 30,000 books and because he had a hundred thousand dollars just laying around to do so and because of that he was able to sell them all out and that's great and he was obviously able to make a profit because when you're buying in bulk that high you are making a huge net income but for the rest of us you know printing out even just a hundred is very cost prohibitive just our business and our bottom line so I went with verve Vontae now Vermont a if you look at them in it I'm going to share my screen they were one of many people who do offer this as a service it's not just Amazon or Ingram SPARC there are many people that offer this service for some reason they still create CDs and DVDs and flash drives as well so in here you're going to want to go to either books if you want a binding so if you want something that has more of a bound spiral I not a spiral a stitched binding or glued in you're gonna look at books but for me I really wanted a journal or workbook I know you're thinking calendars don't go to calendars that's actually a wall calendar that's what they mean by that and you're going to going to go to journals and workbooks now in here they can create spirals the only thing that I really wanted that they weren't able to do was give me purple spirals or let me send in spirals like rose gold or do a metal aluminum spiral and they aren't able to do that they can only do the plastic spirals they're a little less expensive I think I could be wrong but I think that's why chalene johnson smartly pushed journals she switched from a more of a stiched she used to have these really beautiful stitched planners like this but I think to save money she switched over to these cheaper plastic coils these are so cheap and the reason they're so cheap is because these break pretty easily when I say break I don't mean like they're going to crack but what happens is they get bent you know when they're in your bag or your purse the coiling falls out partway through so you'll notice the coils sometimes will be at the bottom and then that gets bent so they're not meant for the long haul and they're not meant to be very sturdy if you have a ton of things in your bag so just something to keep in mind if you're thinking I'm going to give someone a 1-year planner most people don't use their planner throughout the year but if you're giving them a 1-year planner they're going to be very unhappy probably come months even four or five it's going to start fraying it's going to start showing but vivace did an excellent job now my file you'll notice these all these pages lead to the edge the color bleeds to the edge and in order to do that you need to make sure that you are coding documents that lead to the edge so you can't use Microsoft Word or Microsoft Excel I mean I suppose you can't it's just going to look really I think it's going to look really really bad also they did an excellent job on the colors and the shades so you're going to have to make sure when you send this file in that you make sure you send a CMYK file so it's print ready so don't send an RGB file because that is for the computer and your colors may erase sensation but your colors may or may not turn out exactly the way that you want them to turn out so that's something else to keep in mind as well the text looked very crisp everything was like perfect you know the only thing I would say is if you're a little worried I think I had another video where I showed you there was a huge mistake I made on the layout so I'm not sure if you can see this but you can see this is wrong right the week does not start on Thursday and go to Wednesday I clearly this is the end of this is the beginning of September so I had my two-page spread incorrect now for a very very tiny free I think for I think it was $50 it really wasn't a lot you could have your file given to one of their in-house graphic designers and that's what I did even though I am a graphic designer I had everything created myself but then for the final layout or printing I gave it to their graphic designer because they're already familiar with the standards and honestly if something were screwed up in the final production they would be responsible and not myself so again I think it goes without saying to make sure you order a sample copy just for yourself and understand that there is a huge lead time so don't think like what's today today is you know Wednesday the 10th don't think you're going to order it today and it's going to be like Amazon overnight delivery it's going to take a while for the graphic designer to get done they're going to send you proofs back you have to sign off on those proofs and then it will be set off to be printed and then it will be shipped to you and there is a huge significant cost to expediting that shipping because again it's not Amazon I don't know if you're like me hi my name is on Prime member so I'm used to overnight delivery for free and pretty much everything so I know some of us get a little spoiled with that so just keep in mind it will not be overnight you know I think the best lead time for you is to take an entire month I know it sounds like a long time an entire month just to make sure in you get the book right that's working with the designer that's looking at your proofs that's looking at the samples that are sent you in the mail and that gives you enough time to do at least two iterations and then have another month just to get the printing sent to you because they do have some delays on there and they might have a big order coming in you just never know so that is my top recommendation you need two months out at least for when you plan to have those books ready to go and ship out now that's it you can't do pre-sales because we all know you can do that in fact I did pre-sales and created a video just with the sample that I had and that got the ball rolling for revenue to come in even though I hadn't put the final order in all the books shipped so that is something that you could do now if you are not doing spiral-bound they also do have stitching like I said and the other really nice thing that I liked about for Vontae is they are hooked in directly with Amazon so when you list something with Vivante and it's a little more of an involved process I'm not going to get into today you they will list it for you on Amazon and that's both as a digital and is a physical book so that it can be sold through them and you just have one sort of I guess dashboard for selling everything and you don't have to open up separate accounts everywhere so that was a huge huge bonus for me all right I hope that was helpful and if you want more options especially about working with overseas manufacturers or how to put those orders in and how to work with those vendors then make sure you would enroll in my planner design course where I teach you five weeks all about just creating different designs and then a holds that of I think it's four different lessons on just how to do production design and everything else that goes with it alright I hope that was helpful and I will see you guys next week bye