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hi everybody thanks for joining us for this afternoon's webinar using diverse and inclusive books in your classroom I'm Tara and I'm Tiffany and we are both literacy account managers here at book source here at boxer's we're a family owned company dedicated to helping pre-k through 12th grade educators get engaging high interest books and took hands of readers and diversity has really been a core value of book source here since our inception decades ago and so we're just really committed to making sure that you the educators can get these diverse and inclusive books into your classroom we are incredibly passionate about this and so we're excited to finally discuss with you today using these books in your classroom and this is part three of our three-part easy PD series focused on diverse and inclusive books in the classroom many of you've joined us for our previous discussions about what is a diverse and inclusive classroom library why that's important and how you can craft your own so today we're going to dive deeper into using these books in your classroom and keep in mind we'll always email out these slides and resources so please don't feel like you need to write everything down let's jump right in first we'd love to tell you a little bit about us as I mentioned I'm Tara and before coming to book source I was a classroom teacher and a title line teacher and one of the things that I was the most passionate about was helping my students identify his readers and love reading and now as a literacy Account Manager I get to work with educators all over the country to do the same thing for their students and work with them to learn and help them integrate real books into their everyday instruction and I'm Tiffany and like Tara said I'm also illiteracy Accounts Manager here prior to coming to book source I was a classroom teacher and instructional coach and I love the bookstores customer experience so much I decided to pursue a career here I'm so excited to share information with you about diverse and inclusive classroom library books and how you can use them and I know since it's the moment that you've been waiting for let's go ahead and let's get started so as mentioned before this webinar is part of a three-part series that was designed really to make it easier for you to learn more about what divert what a diverse and inclusive classroom library actually means and how you can actually craft and use diverse and inclusive text in your classroom so part one was all about what is a diverse and inclusive classroom library part two again how to craft your diverse inclusive classroom library and today part three we all about using diverse and inclusive text in your classroom and as with our previous webinar formats we're going to give you a lot of really great information and tips and then we also will arm you with some free resources and principles for you to actually use in your classroom we will be sending those out with our follow-up emails so stay tuned for that now in case you missed it we want to catch up with a little bit of information from parts 1 and part 2 let's do a quick review so in part 1 we are focused on defining what is a diverse and inclusive classroom library and so when we're thinking about classroom libraries that are diverse and inclusive we're thinking about libraries that include books that feature a variety of protagonists from an author's from many many different backgrounds whether raised culture religion socioeconomic these are a few of the many themes and what you want to think about as you select text you also want to look for books that really challenge basic stereotypes you want to make sure that the books that you're putting in your classroom um really represent and depict the just really depicted and represent the experience that you want students have and the representations that you want them to have as it pertains to being able to see themselves in books and experience the world through the stories that they read and you also want to make sure that you take a very critical look at the existing literature in your classroom to make sure that it's really relevant for today's students and has the messaging that you want to have in session to you we identified three key steps to actually crafting in your classroom libraries so when you're working with your library you actually should start by analyzing your students I know it doesn't have anything to do with the books but since the books are for the students it makes most sense to really give to know your students learn more about their demographics their interests their abilities their needs so that you can then analyze your books step 2 to make sure that they really are representative of your students interest and also will provide nice windows into what's happening in the world around them and then finally the last step is all about filling the gaps which is what we're going to talk to you more about today so as Stephanie mentioned today we're digging deeper into that third step fill the gaps and so we're going to give you some really solid strategies for adding these texts into your classroom and we're going to share some of our favorites with you and then we'll talk about actually using those books so when you are deciding what books you want to use in your classroom library to fill the gaps that you already identified last time really the intentional be thoughtful about the books that you're including think about what perspectives might be missing from your library that you could incorporate you want to seek out a variety of perspectives and experiences to include and that's you know something that's really important for your readers to be able to see you also do want to be on the lookout for stereotypical representations whether that's in the background of the characters the language they speak their education level their gender roles or even in the plot and theme what kind of problem is the character facing and is that stereotypical to their background I'm one great example of something that you might want to look out for is if you have a character there they or their family is from a low socioeconomic status I'm group that you know you want to make sure that education level isn't always you know somebody uneducated or underemployed and because you know there are other perspectives and experiences and we want to make sure that our students are seeing those multi-dimensional experiences and representations and when you're doing this you do want to make sure that you have a mix of classic and new titles just because it's new doesn't mean that it is diverse and inclusive and just because it's classic or older doesn't mean that it's not so being open to all of that it's also very important that keeping this diversity and inclusion in mind when you're choosing nonfiction text for your classroom it's important to have our students exposed to nonfiction text and so we want it to also be diverse and inclusive make sure that the image is represented in your stories represent a wide variety of individuals that might look like your students but look like others too and make sure that you have a variety of topics as well covering diverse heritage and cultural representations and include some biographies and memoirs from underrepresented groups and make sure that you have that nice rounded libraries your students can learn about people that look like them people that don't look like them and people all across the world now we wanted to share with you some really great diverse and inclusive titles that you may want to incorporate in your classroom library and we also want to let you know that this is one of many resources that you will have access to that actually features great titles so let's go ahead and get started first up we have grades pre-k to two and the first title that I would love to share with you is I'm you hear of this book is written by Anne Sibley O'Brien and it's a picture book for younger readers and it actually shows the experiences of three children from Somalia Guatemala and Korea as they learn more about and just in our new home in school in the United States next we have Leon is a mermaid this is one of my favorites and in this story by Jessica love Oh Leon is mesmerized by any really dreams of dressing up just like all of the beautiful mermaids that he sees in his journey home but he's really worried about what his abuelo will think of this beautiful picture book it's a really excellent read aloud it's a great example of self love and self expression and imagination and I have a fun fact to share with you the Mermaid Parade is actually a real live thing it takes place usually around the first day of summer in Coney Island in New York and in 2020 we'll actually celebrate its 38th year of existence this is the story that you may be familiar with it's a 2016 Newbery Medal Award winner kau Scott and Coretta Scott King illustrator honor book last stop on Market Street it's another beautifully illustrated picture book that features CJ and his grandmother as they travel to you guessed it the last stop on Market Street by bus now CJ is the curious little lad and he's full of questions and his grandmother offers some really great supportive and encouraging answers to his questions as he goes through his journey and they really help him see the beauty in the world as well as in others one of my favorite question answers combinations from the story is when CJ asks his grandmother well how come it's always so dirty over here and his Nana responds sometimes when you're surrounded by dirt CJ you're a better witness for what's beautiful check it out and last from the pre-k to 2 area we have those shoes now we've all had something that we really wanted and this story is about a little boy named Jeremy who desires to have those cool shoes those shoes and all the ones that I'm talking about the ones that everyone else has unfortunately his family's financial situation means that they're just not presently attainable he finds a pair of those shoes at a local thrift store and even though they do not fit he can vixx's his grandmother to buy them I don't want to ruin the surprise but I will tell you that there are some really great lessons to be learned and conversations that can stem from this heartwarming story that many students will be able to relate to so foreign students in grade 3 to 5 we have some awesome titles here as well and this first one Juana and Lucas is brand new this year it is about a spunky young Colombian girl who along with her best friend Lucas who is her job and is trying to learn English but not quite motivated and that is until her Abuelo's tell her about an upcoming trip that might speak her interest just enough to get her learning English this is an awesome book for students that might be fans of Judy moody or Clarence Clarisse bean it's just a fun delightful series and it is illustrated for those early readers as well and now yardsale is from a favorite author Eve bunting and it's about a family that has fallen on some hard times and has to leave their home behind and move to a new life but they don't have enough room to take their belongings with them the little girl in this story is having a hard time parting with her belongings and sad to see them all go but she learns the lesson that home is more about where your family is and not the stuff you take with you and in a more classic title by Eve bunting and fly away home we see another family and a different representation of financial hardship for a father and his son live in the airport because they're homeless while they're there they move from terminal to terminal trying not to be noticed but they see a trapped bird finally find their way and escape this is an honest matter-of-fact written book that's going to speak straight to your heart and find a lot of things for your students to connect with and learn about and finally wonder you've probably seen her heart of the movie and maybe you've already read the book but if you have it this book is about August Pullman he is a 5th grader now starting at Beecher Prep he's going to be in public school for the first time there's something a little different about August and that's that he was born with a severe facial and difference um but he really just wants to be treated like an ordinary kid and and so in this book and you hear from his perspective but also some of the perspectives of his classmates and his family and it's really just a really heartwarming story about empathy compassion differences and friendship next up we have some titles that are diverse and inclusive for our middle schoolers first up we have President of the whole sixth grade oh this is a chapter book featuring Brianna justice and she is the president of the middle school and she's navigating her life at her new school still a lot going on um she's finding that the position of being president was six right just isn't exactly what she bargained for imagine that and she's dealing with friendship troubles and she's even trying to raise money for her class trip to Washington DC upper elementary students and bill slurs alike will really relate to and enjoy this great and dependent read we also have one of my personal favorites Zenobia July this is a novel that powerfully captures the perspective of a new student in a new school trying to fit in so shinobi is forced to move to live with her hands after her parents tragically pass away and the characters in the story represent many cultures and it also includes lgbtq+ characters as in the story Zenobia is actually able to finally live her life as the girl she's art teach always identified as while keeping her trans identity a secret from her fellow classmates we also have the Parker inheritance and in this book Candice Miller finds a letter that's addressed to her a mother who actually left the town in shame I know there's a scandal there in South Carolina and the letter actually describes a young woman and injustice that happened to her a long time ago well there's a mystery and a fortune for the problem solver and it involves digging like deep down into the past it includes dark secret history heroes love just so many things will they solve the mystery and find the fortune well you'll have to read find out and finally for our middle school audience we have freak the mighty this is a classic it's a book that I read when I was growing up and this book features characters with special needs we have max who has learning disabilities and we have Kevin who has actually been nicknamed a freak and he has a physical disabilities freak is a genius and the two of them team up to make an incredibly powerful team and to do amazing things together it's a great story of friendship if you have not read it check it out it's also a great reread and finally some high school titles now these are all gonna be fun for you guys as well so even if you don't teach high school i really suggest picking up one of these and digging in the first title for our high schoolers is skier martin and let me tell you this is one of my favorites from the past few years if you haven't read this one you really should so dear martin is the raw and powerful story of justin justice McAllister and he's a prep school scholarship kid and he embarks on a journal that he has addressed to dr. Martin Luther King jr. after he has been mistakenly arrested while trying to help a friend do justice just kind of spooked by the encounter and he's really unsure of his place and his affluent mostly white prep school and this experience is only exacerbated when shots are fired by a white off-duty cop when he and his best friend Manny are out driving around in the media fallout after the shooting justice must deal with the troops of that night and the impact on all of their lives forever this book is deep and offers a lot of opportunities for discussion about some very hot topics and some things that our students need to currently need to confront and are eager to talk about in the poet X by award-winning author Elisabeth Acevedo and zero mod X zero Monsta X zero Mara Bautista her name so-sorry is a student at a at a prep school as well and she's from Harlem and as you Amara has learned to hide her feistiness and her energy behind her fist and become a little fierce to kind of defend herself but she has a lot that she wants to say but she's not sure who's willing to hear it um in this book which is written in novel in verse it's the Amara herself is a poet and has expressed herself through with all of this written word but is afraid to join her school's poetry slam Club and there's so many deep issues in this from LGBTQ to dating to religion and a Xiomara ex struggles with all of this and finds a way to share her own voice in the end and level up this is a fun graphic novel it's a coming-of-age story about Dennis who's a son of Chinese immigrants and like many teens Dennis is really yearning to play a ton of video games like his friend but his strict father doesn't really let him do that but when his dog father dies Dennis becomes obsessed with the video games and later he realized that his father sacrificed a lot for him and finds a different path and finally like Vanessa this is another new title from 2019 and in this relatable semi-autobiographical debut novel thirteen-year-old Vanessa Martin's dreams of being just like Vanessa Williams who was the first black Miss America by reluctantly entering her own beauty pageant now Vanessa's own life is far from glamorous she lives in public housing her mother is incarcerated and her grandfather deals with addiction not to mention she's struggling with her own battle with self-confidence but then she has a new teacher at school that coordinates a beauty pageant and convinces her to enter so Vanessa's view of her own world begins to change and she learns the importance of self-worth and that she doesn't necessarily need a crone to be comfortable in her own skin and seen her own true beauty don't forget we are gonna email all of these titles out to you so you'll be able to check them out on your own there's so much out there and we know for many this is just a tease or a taste you will receive more information on other great titles and other great resources that you can use to find out more information on diverse and inclusive titles in the emails that we send out we want to take the time to also remind you for those of you that joined us for sessions one in two and for those of you that are new the session three about incidental diversity because it's really important that we also look for titles that represent incidental diversity which basically means that we have a cast of characters that can be diverse but their diversity really is not central to the story often times you'll find diverse characters engaging in experiences that are representative of the same types of experiences that your students will experience on a daily basis um stuff like great green highs and don't feed the geckos and lumber names okay you know what I don't want to get too ahead of myself because we're actually going to send you as part of our principles a full list of great titles that support incidental diversity so let's go ahead and take this one step further after you've got the text in your classroom it's time to use them the most important thing to remember is that despite how often we've told you that it's important to be thoughtful and intentional the really important part is reading for enjoyment not everything is a message a book really can be just a book but you need to make sure that your library has a wide variety so you're appealing to a broad range of students and talking about those weird windows mirrors and sliding glass doors exploded seeing your students to a bunch of different perspectives and experiences the key here is really just focusing on accessibility and prominence so your students can find these books but you're still encouraging them to love reading that's the important part so you have all of these books and you would probably love to read them all but you probably don't have the time if you join us for our last few webinars we gave you some strategies for how you could become familiar with the books in your library without feeling like you needed to read each and every single one what's more important is that you just kind of have an idea about most of the titles and you can fill in the gaps with of your knowledge some other ways we've listed some resources on this side that you can check out uh I'm going to point out obviously books force calm that's a wealth of information there we've got title annotations author illustrator leveling data subject tags will tell you you know that this book has a middle-eastern protagonist or this book was written by an international author those kind of you know very helpful details and then you can take a bit further and check out some reviews on Goodreads or look at we need diverse books or check out Pinterest we all love it anyway don't forget to check with your librarian and media specialist this person is there for you they are going to be so knowledgeable about a wide variety of books and they may have a lot of books in the library for you to check out and read so you can decide if you want to put them in your classroom library and we've got some fun ideas for you too one great idea for getting more familiar with your books without having to do the heavy lifting is to have your students do it for you we call this field testing and you can use this with any age student so basically you're going to select a few students and get them on your side they're part of your field testing team have them read some books and then talk about it they're going to share them with you or their classmates they can write they can draw a picture they can say if they'd like to if they didn't like it and you can learn about all of these different kinds books without having to do the work yourself plus guess what you just got your students to read it's an excellent and fun idea that your students will be excited to participate in as well but I think that you should be involved in this to start a teacher book club at your school maybe you read one book a month or a quarter or you know a handful of a time if their picture books those are quick easy reads you can share and chat about them with each other and learn more and have fun doing it we hold them here at books or sometimes one time we had a diverse picture book biography month then we read five different diverse biographies and chatted about them and because their books they were short sweet and we had a blast and another idea is a book tasting which is kind of along the same mine as the field testing and the teacher book clubs and we've had an image here on the screen for you of one that we did in in house a couple months ago and you'll see that the first course for this book tasting was trending topics so it has a selection of books that covered current events or global perspectives and other things and the participants could check out the books and read the annotations look at the pictures and kind of chat about what they wanted to read what interested them ways they could use books in the classroom it's an awesome and fun event it doesn't require a lot of effort to put together now we know that there are a variety of ways and opportunities for you to use diverse and inclusive books in your classroom and so we want to share some strategies and some tips and some things to think about as you actually work on incorporating books in the various aspects of your literacy classroom and of your daily life so read aloud are an excellent way to incorporate diverse and inclusive titles um we're never too old for every the load whether chapter or picture pre-k to 12 or even with teachers there to be enjoyed by all it's important to remember that as you select and use read aloud excuse me diversity inclusive classrooms books as realize that you want to make sure that you intentionally selects them you want to make sure that you look for titles that are varied and that you notice patterns within this because without doing so you may end up perpetuating some of the stereotypes that we talked about previously you want to make sure that your books have are of a variety of perspectives and experiences and also represent various diverse backgrounds even diversity of thought really really take that deeper that I really looked critically at your books and think about whether or not they actually are representative of the type of diversity that you're trying to protect your classroom and then you also want to make sure that you really embrace authentic conversations I mean we know this is hard up some ways that you can do that are by knowing what's appropriate for your students age and their exposure level and by also expecting the unexpected now we know as teachers that you probably pretty much do that anyway but we want to remind you that that's definitely something that occurs often when you bring new books in the classroom and also when you bring diverse and inclusive books in their classroom please remember that it's okay not to know or not to have all the answers and you're probably gonna have a lot of fun as you go through the experience you also well hopefully you diverse an inclusive classroom library books as a part of your independent rating programming the focus here is to really again make sure that you have that variety we were thinking about books that represent the mirrors and the window students should see themselves they should have an opportunity to experience various perspectives meet meet children that are like that meet characters that are not like them so think you really can make connections add to their schema and experience the world you want to be incredibly thoughtful with your visual placement of books do you just have all of your diverse books in a bin remember the focus here is on like access and choice so the more that you spread them around the more prominent you make diverse inclusive titles the more accessibility that students have to them the more likely they are to read them and enjoy them you also want to make sure that you confer with your students early and often and provide opportunities for students to share with each other it's so important to get students talking about books with you with each other sharing their thinking their connections their excitement and their love of learning and reading are going to spread like wildfire in your classroom so we've talked about using books as read Aloud's and as independent reading both of which you're probably familiar with and may already be doing in your classroom but you can also use these diverse and inclusive books as part of your instruction use them in your guided reading groups your book clubs and your content area lessons make sure that you're incorporating diverse and inclusive books into those as well and in your fiction and in your nonfiction you want to make sure that the topics and images that your students are seeing are really reflective of the broader experience and the broader range of humans that they're going to encounter in their lives remember that here intentionality is really essential you want to make sure that you do use folks in these different ways in the guided reading groups maybe in your science lessons but that not everything is going to check a box you it's important to have inclusive images but just because a book may not have that doesn't mean that it doesn't have valuable information just you want to do your best to encourage and select books to do now we know that oftentimes with the incorporation of diverse and inclusive titles some courageous conversations may actually stem from that extend enriching experience with yours with your students and using the books so one of the things that we wanted to arm you with are some questions themes that you can use as you think about and reflect on selecting diverse books to use in your classroom and also with the students to really get them thinking more critically about the text that they are presented with and really getting them thinking about the experiences that they have and how they are similar or different to their peers and the world you want to think about things like whose voice is being heard or represented this is a really good thing to think about as you start analyzing books because it may actually help support you in terms of finding out what kinds of books you need to add in your classroom library as you work to fill those voices you also may want to think about how books might be different if there was a change in thought or a change in character this can also become a really great extension activity for students as they work with the books themselves with diverse and inclusive titles and really with any title our goals are always to figure out what is the author really trying to say um this is really important as we use diverse and inclusive titles so that students can learn more about the variety of perspectives and experiences that are presented and represented through these types of titles so that they can learn more from them ask questions make connections and just really get the most out of their experiences with these books you also want students thinking about how the text changes the way that they think I mean books in general can be great change agents and so we're never too young or too old to start using and thinking about how they change our thinking and you also want students thinking very critically about how books are presenting issues is it balanced again another great effort can be to look for a title that may support that viewpoint that potentially may be missing from a title that you have it is really important to keep in mind as you work with any book and have any discussion with your students that you want to make sure that the language that you use is age-appropriate so if you need to adapt it go for it please also remember that not every question applies to every book it's just really important that you select the questions and/or the experiences or the activities that are really going to be the most impactful and meaningful for your students throughout the year you'll get through all of them I also remember that not everything needs to be analyzed books really are meant to be enjoyed so you want to make sure that you're always instilling that passion that love that engagement that excitement with every reading experience that your students have really every classroom experiences that they have and it's really important to remember that a supportive classroom community is key and Tara is going to talk to us a little bit more about that so once you have the books or as you're getting these books into your classroom you really want to be thoughtful about what kind of environment and culture you are creating for your students to experience the books in and creating that culture that is supportive is really going to take you far so first we're going to start at looking at your classroom environment what does your classroom actually look like take a look at the walls what kind of pictures do you have what type of quotes kind of books do you have displayed really think about who is represented who is not how are they represented is it positive is it less than positive how can you really craft your classroom to be inclusive and convey messages to your students that they belong and that they should be including others as well when your classroom environment supports inclusivity your books and your conversations anything that you do with your students is gonna carry so much more weight your words matter but your actions matter a lot more and in addition to creating that environment the culture within it matters as well so this is really gonna take some deep thinking and it's probably gonna be a work in progress for some time you're gonna find things that work and things that need to be tweaked and that's okay but going into it very open-minded with a plan is so helpful to think about how do the routines and procedures that you already have in place promote a supportive classroom culture and maybe identify some new routines and procedures that you might need to implement to help students feel more included and create more of a sense of belonging we want our classroom to feel like a safe space for our students and to help them feel like they can contribute that they can ask questions and they can really dive into these more challenging topics in a safe place and a really important piece of that is building those trusting relationships with your students with each other and with their relationship with you and with the broader school community but let's not also forget we need to include the parents in that community building they are such a key part of your students lives their families and their friends from outside of school so how can you include those people in that community building and really encourage these conversations to expand beyond your classroom and now you're probably gonna have some critics or at least some people that have concerns and that might be from other teachers that might be administration it could be parents and so really having strong strategies and thought-out responses for responding to those concerns can help you feel more confident and can help them learn more about why what you are doing in your classroom is so important and the kind of experience that you're crafting for your students you really are doing this because you want what's best for them and I think that will come through in those conversations that you have but it is really important when you're embarking on a big change like this to make sure that you have support we're here to support you at book source but there are plenty of other places that you can turn for support so thinking about those and we do have some resources that we can give you so speaking of resources we do have quite a few for you um we have some classroom resources as well as some title resources for those of you that just did not get enough of our book talk so regarding the classroom resources we have a critical literacy question since question sends that really really get your students thinking deeply about the books that they're reading giving them an opportunity to start thinking about multiple perspectives to really really enhance their thinking and their experiences with the books that they read these can be used from young to older students so definitely check those out um we also have a resource for preparing the classroom for just really tough conversations and we know that this is something that that can that may that will happen as you incorporate diverse inclusive titles in your classroom and we want to arm you with some tools teleport you in that process in case you missed it we also have a replays of our webinar you'll find a part one which is all about what is diverse and inclusive classroom library and part two is how you craft your diverse inclusive classroom library as well as some principles that we shared with our webinar series the teacher and student interest inventory principles are so great for the beginning of the year as you start thinking about your classroom culture your classroom community how you actually want to go about the process of implementing diverse and inclusive titles as part of your classroom programming really setting some goals with action steps for yourselves and been thinking about your students learning more about them who they are what are their interests what are their demographics what are your goals that you have for them and giving them an opportunity to share information with you we have principles for grades K all the way to grade 12 so check those out and then these are title resources we have books sources own voices and diverse authors collection an excellent resource for you in case you just want to learn more information in raid bands specific to your students teens and diverse and inclusive titles it's so good we also have hashtag on greece's it's a resource that we use to learn more about what own voices means learn more about the kind of resources and books that are out there that are aligned to own voices really a great support for you who are kind of new and or need more resource in that area and then we also have we need diverse books I know we've mentioned it before as a resource to find out more information about a book but it's also a great PD resource for you as an educator to find more information about how you can learn more about opportunities to include diverse and inclusive books and experiences for your students in the classroom and then we have our new and exciting diverse books webinar replay in case you missed it you definitely want to check it out these are our newest latest greatest titles that are diverse and inclusive and there's also some examples of incidental diversity in there as well so check it out as a thank you and also to help support you as you go off and make your classrooms more diverse and more inclusive we have some great principles that are coming your way look for those emails in the coming days your printables will include titles that we feel may help support some areas an aspect of diversity and inclusivity that may be a little more challenging or Haarmann find books that represent incidental diversity that you were talking about this is not necessarily a tag always like follows books so we wanted to provide you with a resource it's k12 I'm teleport you in case you're interested in learning more about or incorporating essential titles in your classroom we also wanted to provide you with a list of books around the themes of financial hardship and LGBTQ themes and characters as well as nonfiction books that feature those diverse and inclusive images that we've talked about so that's it for part 3 we are so glad that you were able to join us and for using these diverse and inclusive books in your classroom Tiffany and I have really enjoyed sharing this three-part webinar series with you and we want to keep talking with you about it so please don't hesitate to reach out to us our email is on the slide and literacy at books or calm we look forward to hearing from you whether you have or questions about building more diverse and inclusive classroom or integrating those books into your curriculum we are here to support you and we cannot wait to hear from you and keep an eye out for those slides in a few days and thanks again