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oh and welcome to this episode of the Darrin Grimes show we're going to be talking about all things America in just a minute with tonight's very special guests but before we do that some housekeeping don't forget that you can hit that little subscribe button below this video and that little notification bell to make sure that you don't miss out on any future content if you happen to enjoy tonight's show now speaking of enjoying tonight's show if you do enjoy it please do consider supporting the show now you can do that through a one-off donation via the link in the description to my coffee page the coffee page allows you to make a donation for the price of a cup of coffee or well not in London but the price of a cup of coffee elsewhere maybe and you can consider making a monthly a rolling donation as well because obviously this show costs money to put on a what we'll be talking about tonight very simple the United States of America now who's the favorite to win the US presidency at home Donald Trump isn't seen or have performed all that favorably when it comes to his response to the corporate 19 pandemic that seen billions of us as we in the United Kingdom know all too well it seemed billions of us locked indoors from a potentially fatal virus but then has Joe Biden fared much better with what are often described as senior moments during interviews and a thirty nine days later response to allegations made against him by a former staffer now speaking of those allegations are the Democrats guilty of rank hypocrisy over their handling and supportive statements in favor of Joe Biden when compared to their statements from 2018 during the allegations made against then Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Cavanaugh should we be nervous about the hashtag need to movement reversing the criminal burden of proof now I preface that by saying of course I believe and I believe passionately that women should be listened to and these allegations are incredibly seriously sexual assault and rape on our credibly serious things and horrendous things to happen to anybody but isn't a presumption of innocence and that legal principle that someone is considered innocent until proven guilty an important principle to uphold let's see what my guest thinks roll the tape [Music] [Music] [Music] so hello Freddy Freddy is Freddy is the editor of spectator USA and deputy editor of The Spectator that's still true isn't it Freddy as in your del Z answer yeah to the UK yeah and formally literary as of the American conservative so Freddy house lockdown treatin you where are you in the world I am I'm on the Isle of Wight which might explain a slightly patchy connection what I'm sure I've managed to irritate the whole island this weekend by writing a piece about how unsuitable the Isle of Wight was for the for the rollout of track and trace I have right is that because the reception here is terrible okay just a fact and anyway I've been told by a lot of people who know a lot more about this than me that I got it all wrong the Isle of Wight connection is in fact amazing well actually seem to be irrelevant to tonight's conversation but where do you actually stand on track and trace do you have are you a you know dying the world libertarian do you have concerns about the the privacy around track and trace I think is disgusting right and no sane person to be tracked and raised well quite I think I agree with you there actually but anyway Freddie what is it that got you into American politics is it the drama and excitement that you just don't get in the UK's politics or in Westminster I'm thinking of if you consider some of the stats around this the UK politics looks like a drop in the ocean when you consider that Michael Bloomberg spent 1.2 billion dollars on his failed presidential bid making it the most expensive in history according to his finance filings yes and it was so spectacularly bad but that's I love American politics who said it's um he said he'd spent quite a long time in Washington then he came back to Westminster and he said it was just hard to get the same thrill out of Westminster that he got out of Washington because it was like being a crack addict and coming back to sort of smoking marijuana and you just don't get the same hit because American politics is so immense and the enormity of it is endless and you just I mean not the Westminster politics isn't interesting it is but American politics for me has just always held this intense fascination because of just the scale of it and also the the madness yeah I mean if we turn then for a sec - I mean we've seen elections pushed back in this country thanks to covert 19 but January 20th and correct me if I'm wrong on this Freddie but January 20th president Trump's term has to come to an end constitutionally rice that's right so he can't be pushed yak it can't be pushed back no they could come up with some kind of temporary agreement through an act of Congress but his term has to end on on fences so it's not like they can hand it over to Mike Pence or anything yeah I think it it'll get very interesting if there is a terrible second wave of kovat and nobody can come out and vote on the primitives November then that's gonna throb incredibly interesting and difficult constitutional questions but as far as as far as most people know or recognize there's no way that trumps term can be extended unless they come up with some temporary solution which obviously they're not going to so the Democrats are not going to agree to extend Trump's term any longer than they need to yeah I mean what do you think explains this I mean we saw around Trump's a travel ban from China which I think everyone if you were if I was to run outside right now and take a a poll of the public I think most people would say that it was eminently sensible of President Trump to ban any flights from China but the Democrats seem so just I don't know quite what describes it but they've been driven mad by President Trump in a way in which they just can't see sense they will never ever support anything President Trump does no matter how sensible that might be what do you think explains the what I would describe as it's nothing other than hatred isn't it well I think I think Tucker Carlson the Fox News president that has a very good line on this which is that what the Democrats do a lot in America is that they criticize exactly the thing that they're guilty or so you have it a little bit of this with brexit and remain and that ended when they go after someone for a particular sin like being mentally unstable or something that will be exactly the trait that they're exhibiting so you know nobody can believe that Perrineau that America is about to re-elect a mentally unstable sexagenarian egomaniac and yet the Democrats are about to probably elect you know if the current polls show America is about to elect a mentally unstable ego may accept a generic so this is very odd kind of thing where we're always reflecting the thing that when criticizing them most yeah does that make sense yes I why another question then why are they so old right why in American politics all of the contenders for the presidency all those nomination I mean what happened in in politics cuz even Hillary Clinton was no spring chicken right it's so it's it's the weirdest thing ever and also this is a New York angle to it so I mean it seemed to me at one point you have to be very old and you have to be from New York to succeed in American politics now or if you're not from New York you have to have some New York connection like Hillary Clinton did and Biden is the course of an exception to that rule because he's not really a New Yorker by trade and he beat Bernie Sanders he's a Brooklyn guy but now Democrats when as soon as they get the chance they would want to replace him with Cuomo who's the governor of New York who is a quintessential queen guy and it's almost as though that the cultural power of New York those strong that it pulls all these candidates in towards it and as for the age thing it's a gaps extrude room this is supposedly the nation where which is obsessed with image and you know look and seeming young and vibrant and so on and yet just doddery old men see to rise to the top yeah I mean what's going on then with the who do you think the favorite is at the moment because I think it's obviously I'm not I'm asking you a little bit to become Mystic Meg in a sort of clairvoyant at this point but Donald Trump isn't seen to have performed all that favorably when it comes to his response to Cove it 19 that's seen billions of us of course locked inside from a potentially fatal virus but his if you compare Donald Trump's response to the virus with Joe Biden's what I often described as senior moments Freddy I don't think he comes out in any more positive light does he he doesn't he doesn't come out well but I mean I think at the moment and of course you know as the coronaviruses proved everything contained very quickly at the moment Biden is is I'd say favorite going on strong favorite to win the presidential election if you look at the swing states his lead now is quite formidable I mean in certain states like Wisconsin where Trump was actually ahead at this time in 2016 Biden is now quite significantly ahead in most polls so I don't see a moment I can't say as anything other than Biden is now becoming a clear favorite he's got the swing voters who were going to be cross the working class swing voters are going to be cross about the economy and it's extraordinary to me because I think if you'd asked me before this I would have said to you this being confident of edge did a bit but I I can't see how Trump loses this election and now I think unless there's an a very very fast economic recovery Biden is is the strong Taylor yeah I mean well do you think the Ataru Reid allegations and well if you could explain a bit of the Tara Reid allegations but do you think the Tara Reid allegations will have any impact on that whatsoever on Joe Biden's polling well I'd love to discuss this with you go Darren because I think this that I read things is fascinating because it shows the level of complete double standard get yes among among his accusers you know and you would like to think it's a case of the bite of bitten you know that you you you drop a straw man as a Democrats did with Brett Kavanaugh who's to I'm sure you see your listeners know the Supreme Court justice that Trump nominated and 20 there was a very flimsy case again and every single democratic politician almost every single democratic politician said I believe all women we have to accept that this case is serious and it was obviously a political hatchet job and it was obviously a disgrace and they all went along with it anyway so now what the Republicans are trying to do is say well look this case may be a little bit thin but it's slightly more substantial Tara Reid's case against Joe Biden is slightly more substantial than then the case against Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasi Ford's case against Brett Kavanaugh but of course you know the Democratic media won't accept it because they'll just brush it aside so it shows that all this sexual abuse allegation stuff is purely weaponized for politics and that's so revolting and I mean shameful rich yes I mean I'm gonna play a quick clip from like Nancy Pelosi I think Darren but I don't think the right should get involved with this stuff I don't think we should go into well he's guilty you know anything we should get involved in that kind of grubby stop yeah no definitely not i I agree with you on that but I do think you're right to highlight the double standard now I'll explain why but I want to play this quick clip of Nancy Pelosi for our listeners and then I'll come back to it we're here to show our respect for all women they'll have a case a listen when a very similar allegations came out on him well let let me just say I respect your question and I don't need a lecture have it respected investigate to find the truth not fear it here's the thing I have a complete respect for homie to movement I have four daughters and one son and there's a lot of excitement around the idea that women will be heard and be will listen to but these what's happening here has lifetime impacts the crimes themselves yeah the allegations that had been made about offenses that have a lifetime impact there is also due process and the fact that Joe Biden is Joe Biden I mean Freddie in that clip from Nancy Pelosi she says this the fact we've got to remember that Joe Biden is Joe Biden but you know they're Democrats were tearing into Brett Kavanaugh over this thing and I I think what I'd say is is my concern is that the really important principle of being innocent until proven otherwise it just goes out the window with these sorts of allegations and Joe Biden is sort of having his previous 20 18 statements come back to bite him in the bumps and mocks isn't that rice but Biden is weird with women there's no doubt about it I've seen it myself in in in person I've seen him kind of he just holds onto women for too long and you know you can either say it's creepy or you can say he's just a sort of old guy who doesn't we know what he's doing and I don't really care about that but it's interesting that the Biden campaign nearly in the very early stages it nearly fell flat on its face in the opening weeks because the rival campaign started circulating pictures of him grabbing women in slightly weird ways and he does he's he's overly tactile with with women but I just I mean I think as for the tar Reid allegation I mean God knows it could be true not be I do not think he should be hung out to dry on it but I think there is this sort of endless biter bitten visceral sort of you know you did it to us so we're going to come after you with a false allegation or with it with a unproven allegation yeah and I just think it's gross it's really bad politics and like you know in a way it's satisfying that the Democrats get their comeuppance with it but in another way it's just a waste of time I think yeah I agree with you and for me it's not about come up and so or revenge or anything like that but I mean the spectator us for example it compiled a list of 35 endorses alongside their previous positions yeah that was fun yeah I mean exposing hypocrisy exactly exactly and is there anything that British people hate more than hypocrisy I can't think of anything you know it but it and the that hypocrisy needs to be exposed I think so we can get back to having healthy responses where of course allegations by women which are very serious allegations you know sexual assault and rape are disgusting things to happen to anyone but where I think this idea that someone should be believed as the default position and not someone someone's innocence isn't the default position until proven otherwise that's pretty dangerous I think that's a pretty dangerous position to find ourselves in I totally agree and I think it goes it's it's worse than that in a way and it's that you know it's often called the culture wars but I suppose it is the culture wars the culture rules have become so profound that you believe someone's guilt or innocence based on where you are what the kind of political spectrum yeah so if they're not in part of your tribe you're gonna think they're guilty and you know maybe I do it myself I can quite imagine that Biden was a perv back in the day because he seemed a bit like that to me but that's maybe because I'm conservative and I find Biden a bit sauce whereas with Brett Kavanaugh I always found it slightly hard to believe but maybe that was because my invoices and and I think what's happening in in the kind of media debate at the moment it's just your base you basically use everything as as political water yeah I think it's very very unhealthy yeah and quite depressing very down on everything no that's all right Pressey I do think I do think it's quite depressing but I also think Hillary Clinton's endorsement if Biden can't have come at a worse time you know III think through this these allegations alongside Hillary Clinton's M virtual women's Town Hall kind of being particularly helped he'll well I was at worrying moment last week where it looked like she was going to be rolled out as the vice presidential nominee Oh has that been completely shot down now well that definitely not happen my hunch is that they were sort of they were floating it rice and they were looking for the reaction yeah and I think you take a lot of boxes for them to do it yeah take a lot of boxes but also I just completely tinny at politics right I know but they are extremely tinted they keep proving helped they did they are and they keep doing the exact thing that shows them and so I I mean it wouldn't have surprised me actually if they had done something like that but I think they've seen that that would be possibly the only way now that they could lose the election would be to nominate do you think they might do it yet do you think the Democrats will there might be a split over the Reid allocations because I don't know if you've seen you will have seen but the leading light of the young Democratic Left Alexandra Alexandria rather al Cassio Cortez has said that it's legitimate to discuss an allegation of sexual assault against Joe Biden and threatened the party's efforts to unite before the election in November and I wonder do you think there will be dissent yeah I'm thinking of a potential vice president nominee a name that was floated she's been one of them hasn't she which would be mental by the way but she has been whoo sorry hey Ozzy Elsie hey well yeah I mean I think what so a or C is quite interesting because she was she supported Bernie and she surprised some people because a lot of people thought she was too ambitious to support Bernie but she did and I think that what's quite interesting is that she now knows that there's a lot of anger among the grassroots left about the fact that Biden be Bernie Bernie Sanders yeah and that that now a lot of the kind of progressive left are using the Torah Reid allegations to say Biden's are wrong and he's an awful man anyway he's the establishment except cetera and so as he's trying to make sure that she doesn't look like a sellout by by endorsing him and she's going to make as much fast as she can and she's lining herself up for 2024 where she I think will then by then be old enough to be President I don't think she she's not old enough at the moment to be president how those four how much do you think that Joe Biden's message at the moment and campaigning strategy is basically similar to Boris Johnson's get brexit done strategy which was very simple right it's very simple message get brexit done forget about the 2017 to 2019 Parliament which drove us all I think to the brink of madness do you think it's quite similar because if you look at Biden's messages his campaign is it's quite uninspiring really I'm not saying buttress Johnson's campaign was an inspiring but Biden certainly is you know it's light on this so-called green New Deal Medicare for all and heavy on the prospect of a day when you don't have to worry about what the president is tweeting from day to day yeah well I guess his messages get Trump out yeah that would it if you could sum it up and and that it is a powerful message and particularly with the coronavirus crisis and the kind of shift in public perception of trouble that's happened that could be enough to win in the election but what I find extraordinary again is that you know we are talking about a man who isn't in control of his senses I'm I know everyone thinks the right wing talking point and you know it's just mean to say that Biden isn't in control of his senses and it is mean it's not nice to point out that someone's going a bit mad but he is going a bit mad I saw him in New Hampshire not so long ago when was it jet was before the krona grosses it was in way back in January February and I went and talked to him and I asked him a few questions about Boris and about brexit and he couldn't compute what I was saying and it wasn't just that it was a loud room and he couldn't hear it wasn't just that I had a British accent and he can understand what I was saying he just clearly is a doddery old man and I don't say that with any joy or it's a it's a horrible thing to say but he's not right and and you know then this we're about to make I mean America is about to make this guy president United States and people might say well Trump's a lunatic too and maybe years well Freddie I've got two questions from that then one this clearly matters right and to all the Democrats being a little bit selfish here because of he will be the leader of the free world and if he's not all that responsive at the moment because he is getting on a bit then surely that is putting the United States and the free world in a pretty perilous position but then secondly how just surely this highlights how important his pick for Vice President will be because that vice president stands a pretty bloody good chance of becoming president of the United States in a way in which Mike Pence bossom horrible disaster happening to president Trump simply doesn't yeah well this ties into my pet theory which is which experts will dismiss but I think it's slightly better than the experts will we'll give it credit for which is that Michelle Obama is a strong candidate to be Biden's vice presidential pick because Americans are slightly unconsciously addicted to dynastic politics and so they love the idea of you know the Trump's versus the as the clintons versus the bushes and I think that a lot of people within the Democratic Party know that if Biden picks Michelle Obama as his veep then they will struggle to lose the election because you'll reassemble the Obama coalition which is a very powerful coalition of minority votes with with a large chunk of middle America basically and a lot of these kind of you know the key votes meant to be a bomber bomber Trump voters so that's people who voted for Obama twice who then voted for Trump and you know this is why it's so stupid to call Trump voters racist because a lot of them voted for Obama twice and they might go back if well they probably go back to Biden anyway at the moment but they'd certainly go back if Michelle Obama was on the ticket and so I think I just think it's a very interesting dynamic and I think that if you get Michelle Obama as vice president and then Biden is clearly incapacitated or is clearly not functioning then you might see you know some attempt to remove him in the way that Republicans tried to removed Trump that might happen you might end up with Michelle Obama's president by default the other one stacey abrams mm-hmm i mean who knows are they seriously floating the idea that Michelle wants it though no no it's all been conceded yeah and it's just my theory this but it really wouldn't surprise me also because the other vice presidential pigs aren't that strong I mean Cameron O'Hara's bombed Stacey Abrams is quite strong rhetorically but she's not a popular candidate I mean I don't see I think they want it to be a minority woman Biden said it has to be a woman so who do they go for I don't know younger members of the Democratic Party that you raised are there is there no young blood within the Democrats that can save them from this sort of gang of oldies they've got that keep going for the [ __ ] I mean you know and I think AOC is a good example of this AOC is probably is you know it's a very attractive polish I think she's not a serious vice-presidential Cam's a particular this year cuz I think she's allowed to be but she she is not she serves on the kind of wave of work ISM right and the point is is that being work doesn't win elections right it just it fails at the ballot right like Andy and the Democratic Party is so enthralled with you know LGBT stuff I mean Elizabeth Warren did she announced her personal pronouns yeah she can track from the from the moment she did that to the moment she failed so that her just polling just dropped off it's in she did that because nobody cares about this stuff apart from very hyper woke Democrats who you know you can make you can mobilize the face with up you're not gonna win an election with that hmm I mean if we turn to coronavirus Joe Biden has tried I think and I'll see if you agree but he's tried to turn the tables and who charged him with being weak on China for example by claiming that President Trump has rolled over to Beijing and failed to protect America now Trump in my opinion has actually been surprisingly quiet on this and political is floating the suggestion that this is perhaps because he wants the second part of a trade deal with China to go ahead do you think that's right is that his the game plan here well certainly I mean I think the Democrats are on something and that Trump dropped a lot of the China barest rhetoric Austria had a phone call with Z and presumably in that call Z made a threat about if you want to get the second place of this trade deal through you need to stop calling it this is it well this is all presumption but I think fairly safe presumption if you wanna if you want to get the trade deal then you need to stop calling us the China virus and directly blaming us for the virus and Trump has definitely changed his rhetoric on that but I think the Republican all I know that the Republicans are pretty confident that if it becomes an election about China then they're gonna hammer Biden pretty hard because he's you know he's set up funds they should be careful what I say legally on the record but I've been he's he has allegations of corruption in regards to China which are as bad as his allegations at the allegations about Biden and Ukraine they apply to China as well so I don't think if this becomes a China election I think that might give Trump a hope at the moment with the current economic crisis and I think the right way the right wing at the party is gonna try and push this election to be about trying and if button couldn't assemble as many negative ads as he wants and say you know Trump is because Trump has said all these nice things about China but he is still the only American president in recent history that has stood up to the economic might of China and I think that is something quite commendable in a way because I think it's something that American presidents need to do well I do agree with that and actually I think ensuring that these unaccountable bureaucracies like the World Health Organization which i think is is culpable in the pandemic spreading as fast and as violently as it has actually holding them accountable by pulling the us as funding to ensure that they have to actually take stock and recognize that there I think k'tau in to the Chinese Communist Party will not be accepted by the American president I think that's a pretty at you know I I don't think anything bet he couldn't have done anything better in my opinion as far as that's concerned well I agree and I think it's interesting that a globalization now essentially means supporting China it doesn't mean actually believing in globalization it means are you an anti-trump and pro China and that that's have changed the way in which we use the term globalization has changed it's now a negative thing to the right about China rather than being a thing about you know how economics works which is one and essentially about yeah I mean you are right to point out that whoever the right will want to beat the China drum as it were because Americans are clearly angry if we look at some polling a majority of Americans polled at the end of March and in early April said they agree with President Trump referring to covert 19 as the Chinese virus which I don't know if you remember was dismissed by by and by the World Health Organization as propagating stigma and then a new poll should excite China Hawks who actually wish to punish China for their role because most Americans agree with that sentiment as well so clearly the the Republican Party going hard on China isn't going to hurt them but apparently according to a leaked memo they've also been told to not be supportive of President Trump because of his handling of the covert 19 situation did you think it was any truth to that I think that man is true yeah yeah I think I mean I think I think both parties are realizing that that well certainly the Republicans are realizing as I say that if the whole idea of this election was sell it on the economy we've created this beautiful economy wages are rising there's an optimistic mood in the country made America great and this crisis is completely blown that out the water so the only way in which the Republican Party can win is by emphasizing that China is the problem and that Trump is the one person who stood up to them but at the same time Trump feels the only way you can get the recovery going back again is to establish quick diplomatic and better trade relations with China quickly so it's a very interesting dynamic I don't know how it's going to shake out Freddie can you explain why conservative magazines that were correct me if I'm wrong on this but the National Review was that weren't they never Trump and now they're pretty supportive are we seeing a lot of these never Trump is coming around to the idea of Pres and Trump for a second term just to provide that's a really interesting question I don't know quite what the end the answer is I think there's a lot of the American ride and it because it essentially breaks down along class lines a bit like brexit in that you know posh Republicans had to signal that they were against Trump because he seemed to be to a lot of pascha Americans to be sort of riling up the masses in a populist way and it was a bit disgusting and so the National Review which is a good example you mentioned they did a famous cover called against Trump and it was a sort of bastion you know a trumpet call against this vulgar man who was taking over the party and as the posse I don't think that I think national views come around to trump or anything like that but certainly you can see that for a lot of right-wing Americans and we've seen this we launched the spectator in America and people are suspicious of you if you're not pro or anti you know if you try and take a balanced view I have I like to think I have a fairly balanced view of Trump which is it I think he's obviously an egomaniac he's obviously a widow in many ways but he's also tapped in some very important things in American politics that makes him a very significant president if you try and do a balance of your Trump you're gonna get really attacked so national views like all conservative magazines is trying to walk this delicate balance I didn't even say I don't want it what is it well I mean I don't know the answer to that question I ideally I just like I would like to see president Trump reelected and it's just because I am so terrified by whoever the prospect of whoever is made Joe Biden's vice president becoming the de facto president right and and if that's some walk maniac then the free world will be led by said walk maniac and that does put the fear of God in me to be honest and look and I think that I think a lot of Americans agree with you and that's why you know Hillary Clinton was rejected because everybody thought that this prideful well like politics would would and a lot of Americans will that be the end of America yeah well speaking of the end of America 70% of Americans told pollsters during the last election campaign that they feared the nation was set on a course to decline and this has long been the case since though I think if you know from JFK up to some of the earliest presidents of the Republic that's always being the case but if you marry that with the covert 19 in the economic response to you covert 19 and the economic power of China which is likely to grow and that's in the the minds I think of many Americans married many voters that's going to continue to grow and especially after the recovery when many the Americans is no different from the United Kingdom in that sense are impoverished after the covert 19 economic response but whereas China will begin and continue to prosper I wonder if thinking of that idea of America in a state of decline who do you think Freddie is the natural candidate to reverse that decline I don't think it is someone like bite and I just can't see Biden standing up to the likes of China - I don't think he would have been bold enough for example to withdraw the United States from the World Health Organization their funding from the World Health Organization so surely Americans looking at this in November will think well if we want to reverse decline and can't and combat China the best person for that job is going to be President Trump I think that's probably true I think the trouble is is that Biden wins the the beer contest you know which is famously the one of the key polls yeah who would you rather have a beer with and Biden seems to win that and even in a crisis almost more in a crisis really that's very surprising to me I have a beer with him and then he Marriott's what he said two minutes after if it was down to me I'd rather be too late I mean obvious he wouldn't drink but but I think no IIIi don't think I mean I think that in terms of if you took it out if you took it out the crisis I think that Trump was was on a sort of path towards reelection which was almost inevitable because because he'd won the culture war you know the Democrats had thrown everything at him they'd throw an impeachment they had thrown and Russia gate they'd thrown you know even the even health care was thought the Democrats but had this huge advantage over health care turns out they didn't but now I do think this crisis affects things in in profound ways and you just it's just hard for a president to win when there's gonna be huge unemployment come time people but in November yeah I mean yeah if there's a specially if there's a second way that I think that would be the the sort of death the final nail and in Trump's presidential coffin because you know that v-shape the other the other point is running out of running out of meat I really as I listen to that in your latest podcast actually which I'd recommend everyone listened to of course and and he's even failed on things didn't he say that there would be testing sites at all Walmart's and target superstores and may promises on the defense Protection Act as well and they just haven't come through but Freddie fit for UK listeners how much power does President Trump actually have over all of those decisions how much the power does the executive have over say governors of various states etc amazingly little I'd say I mean in terms of there's a lot of sort of panic mongering among the Democrats Democrats think they're going to lose the election they will start panic mongering about the fact that Trump is going to somehow cancel the election or he's going to delay it in some way because he wants to manipulate it but in terms of delaying a federal election Trump has less power than a state governor and that's just the way the Constitution works so he cannot just suddenly decide that people are going to vote in a particular state because he's worried that that state will vote against him it's entirely down to the governor so I think a lot of this is hysteria on the bottom Tamarack rats that Trump is going to somehow rig the election yeah but they dummy mean it in a way yeah more there's more democratic uppers marginally more democratic governors from public normals I mean in a way you could say the the Democratic governors in swing states like Michigan they could rig it against Trump yeah I mean all I think is that they need to bring back Sarah Huckabee Sanders I think she was absolutely phenomenal at the press briefings and they've lost that they've lost that seriousness that I think's needed during a an epidemic or pandemic like this you you've hit you've hit on a great point that which is that Trump's best phase as president was when Sarah Huckabee saw this was in charge at the press briefings he's now doing it himself every night which everybody thought was a very good idea he's pulled back because he went to because it was going so wrong but it's because he doesn't have a very good press basement yeah woman yeah ethnic Russian what able to do the briefings and I know that people don't really understand about Trump is they assume he's this ruthless [ __ ] but he's not I mean the problem is he's slightly too loyal to some people so rather than saying right this isn't working we need to get in a kick-ass press secretary he's just done not on nothing and he's tried to do the press conferences himself and it's been a disaster yeah Freddie to end a little bit of fun I'm gonna ask you I'm gonna read out a quote and you've got to guess whether or not it was from Biden or Trump okay good god I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do I suspect I'd be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours if you'd like Frank what does they shove me you're gonna tell me it's Biden I'm gonna say Trump Trump it was Biden okay I'm not sorry for anything that I've ever done I have never been disrespectful intentionally to a man or a woman that's Biden it it is biting well done and I punched my music teacher because I didn't think he knew anything about music and I almost got expelled I'm not proud of that but it's clear evidence that even early on I had a tendency to stand up and make my opinions known in a very forceful way oh god I've got a feeling this is drum but I'm gonna say Biden it's Trump yeah you will know this one the press always asks me don't I wish I were debating him no I wish we were in high school I could take him behind the gym that's what I wish well done yeah that's Biden now get last one I guess we'll all have to compare our Q tests and I can tell you who's gonna win okay that's trouble well done yeah excellent now Freddie where can people find you on Twitter and more importantly where can people subscribe to the fantastic magazine to find out all of these updates and pieces all-america spectator us here this is our us US Edition and I think it's pretty good so you guys WWE taught us food dot you would slash subscribe and please subscribe to our Union Edition which is going pretty well Asian moment we're doing we're doing great but we would love more readers as all magazines would and business of course at the fantastic Americana podcast which is brilliant oh yeah dude listen to me Rikuo new book goes yeah I'm doing your job for you friend yeah bring the magazine well turn you did manage that much no Freddie thank you very much yeah it's very good it's very good but thank you very much for joining us tonight and I hope you enjoy the rest of your evening will it be wine fuel yes we got we got no we haven't got people coming over at all no we just having to mention my wife I didn't hear that I didn't hear that someone only calling one one one as we speak do not dump me in thank you very much Freddie take care now as ever you can share this sports of all all of your friends and family to enjoy as well I'm sure you will agree with me that that was an absolutely fantastic discussion on American politics with Freddie do have a look at spectator USA it's a fantastic addition to the spectator outpost and please do consider subscribing to this show so you don't miss out on all of the latest content and do consider giving a little donation in the diss link from our description which will take you to my 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