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hi guys it's okay we're back this will be the last video of 2014 just let you guys know today actually early this morning we hit 4,000 subscribers so thank you for a great year we got bigger and better things coming we're going to try and keep these videos out rather than once a month now we're gonna kick them out once a week now that we're in our new little studio here and what we want to do is kind of Institute maybe a new thing that will will be of more value to you guys we want to try and answer as many questions and and do as many videos on stuff that's going to be informative and valuable to you guys so this this week and and so you know when you if you've got ideas of things that you want to see questions that you have we'll try and answer them via a video if we possibly can depending on whether we get 4,000 a week that might be a little issue but anyway just if you've got something that you want to see that you haven't seen on any of our other videos rice a question to let us know or call us or email us or whatever yeah we'll probably even give you credit for it you know by name right goodnight dudes like what we'll do on this one this week we're gonna we got a question from from Robert I think it's pronounced hasty from one of our Facebook groups and I think he's in Pennsylvania but he wanted to know if we could show on camera if we could show how I put the backer board on that panel board like you guys have seen me used before I can't remember the videos but it's just been a few videos ago this will be video number 109 I believe so anyway so I want to go through that process and exactly how I go about doing it's fairly simple but there's a couple of things to keep in mind a couple things that I've learned that's helped make it a little bit easier to do so here's what we've got we've got our piece of panel board and on the panel board generally speaking there's going to be a good side and a bad side this is I mark this as as my face this is going to be the face of my sign here this is our by the way this has got one coat of brush sanding sealer on it like I like you guys know I I use this is the backside so this is the side that will be hidden and this is the main reason I picked that as the backside beside the fact that that gets kind of kind of hairy sometimes to to carve so that's the front side and then my 3/4 inch plywood is that's the obviously the inside I've marked at the inside that's kind of the rough side of the plywood and that would be the the back of the sign so this will be the front of the sign that'll be the back of the sign now I'm going to glue and screw these together now what I've done is my overall sign is going to be 14 by 28 so what I've done is this I'd like to be a little bit bigger when I'm making these things a little bit bigger and then I can trim it down to the exact size so this is 16 so I never I tried to go a couple of inches both ways if I can so I have plenty of room for trims so this is 16 by 30 so I'm going to trim once it's all glued and dried everything I'll trim that down to 14 by 28 and this is basically the same except it's at least a little bit bigger all the way around and all explain why it is I do that that way you know what I've done is I've made lines and drilled holes already off-camera so I didn't waste your time on that but basically I know that these these are going to be about one inch in from the edge remember I said that my overall sign is going to be 14 inches which is here so one inch in one inch in on all four sides that's where I want my holes and then I put put eight screws in the center that will keep it from cupping or so everything will be laying flat and glued and screwed together so here's what I'm gonna do I am good lay this down and this is gonna be here so I am just going to clean the heck out of this thing and then actually you know what I got that backwards I'm gonna lay the face of this thing down cuz I've got a screw from that backside so that's the face that's gonna go this way that is gonna go that way that's the way it's gonna be on there now the reason I might as well get into this right now the reason I made this piece a little bit bigger all the way around is because when my board is all glued up and screwed down I want to be able to trim it and and if I have the actual baseboard the face of my sign a little bit smaller all the way around then when I run it through my table-saw I've got a nice straight edge if I didn't do that if this thing is off a little bit then it would it makes it much harder to trim down and I don't have to use the jointer anything like that I can just do it all on the table saw so what I'm going to do here what I'm doing right as we speak is I'm going to make sure that that is a little bit bigger all the way around and it is so I am gonna set this aside and throw a bunch of glue down on this thing spread it around you get my gloves on here I could do this without gloves because this is just water-soluble glue so it's no big deal but so I'm just gonna put a bunch of glue down hopefully I got enough in this bottle I think I do you following me here dad yep okay pretty much gonna take the rest of that bottle I think so I I'm really I don't worry about wasting glue I'd rather have way too much glue than not enough so what I'm going to do now just got some little pieces of cardboard they're going to just spread this around and just make sure that this is that number one I've got to clear the edge all the way around and I've got every every square inch of that of that thing covered this is kind of a messy process guys but I can tell you have that paper underneath it yeah yeah I don't want to I don't want to get blue all over my even though that's just crappy particle board underneath the paper I still don't want so so I I'm again it's not an exact science and you guys may have a better way to do it than what I'm doing now I'm just showing you what I do so if this can help you guys a little bit trampy over here so that's spread out pretty well now oh by the way on the bottom side of this board here after I drilled because I have breakouts I took my sanding block and I sanded it down pretty well to try and get all of that all of it stopped off of there put that in place kind of just feel underneath and Center it up to make sure again this is bigger all the way around the screws I've got our inch and a quarter this is 3/4 basically 3/4 my my piece is basically 3/4 and that's the only tip these little screws have the star chip oops all right stuff anyway so my I know my screws are not going to go all the way through so the face of my son so I've got this pretty much centered there I want to get to the corner in anyway they'll kind of countersink themselves there so I don't have to worry about that now I'm gonna get this other corner then I know that it is where I want now I'll just fill in the rest of it that should keep it right in place and again I've got a little bit of extra all the way around so I know when I go when it's when it's all dried out and I go to about how many plumbing through you think you put in there oh I don't know but I got two four six eight ten twenty twenty eight plus six I don't know about thirty-four something like that okay I didn't really count unless you got those somewhere around three-inch energy yeah two to three inches something like that I don't want to have big gaps in there I want to make sure that then it gets as flat as it can get screws are pretty cheap so it just made sense to me to put put it in there to get them as flat as I can so this should be dry tomorrow and I can go ahead and turn it down start working on my celly what are you doing tonight was this you're making the board yeah you're getting it ready that's exactly one hour why for the glue dries then you'll send your trim it blend the shine out and curve it that's exactly right but again I'd rather have more food than have enough it was pretty cheap and screws are pretty cheap I'd rather have dad what you look like a pig now we're done you're trying yeah you don't want it coming apart and the thing that glue does to besides holding the board together it also seals it up it'll seal up that plywood and seal up the backside of that of the panel board so that it does so moisture is less lot less likely to know if you while you were we're we're oh yeah yeah anything about this photo though like you guys know it washes with water so just a damp rag and hit a lot you know clean right up but it stands off pretty easy - if you don't get it all cleaned up now my hope is that my hope is that the food enough that it goes all the way to the edge so that when I trim it down to that 14 by 28 my eventual size of my sign then I don't have any voids into the courtroom there so that it doesn't go deep enough so that it would be in the area that you'll be carving and you won't be a quarter of an inch deep right so you'll never reach the probe is true that's right none of my carving should reach should be deep enough to reach the point of these screws but yet the screws will be in there far enough I really suck it down down to the plywood so that that should work out and he screws like you noticed I didn't even pre-drill the back of the of the panel board because these screws these screws have a little a little notch in the end makes them kind of self-tapping so it just kind of like deck screws yeah so they they just I just didn't need it pre-drill the back of the link that's all good alright doesn't really matter I'm gonna send this off tomorrow after it dries up anyway that's pretty much it you see how that is just a little bit bigger over there and I don't have a I forgot to get a kind of a damp rag that's really the best way to to clean up some of this stuff is with a damp rag what you do what you're doing there and trimmed off any of it exactly yeah it'll be trimmed off with the saw so that's pretty much it guys this not not really difficult to do just a couple of things that I've learned the biggest thing that I learned the hard way was to make sure that my my backer board is a little bit bigger than this board all the way around so now when I run that through the table saw it'll run on that and I'll turn then obviously trim about an inch off of here and then itch off of there and a couple inches off the end and I'm good to go I've got it an inch and a half board that should be all good and ready to go I've got sanding sealer on the front and I'll start making my sunny so there's a there you go Robert I hope that answers your question I take these things off and these things make it kind of nice so again you guys have questions we're going to try to every week try to address an issue or a question or something that you guys are are looking to to learn and maybe have some questions on we already have we already have a bunch kind of lined up but keep them coming we again we plan on doing a 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