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guys welcome to the weekly meeting um so today i didn't i didn't really uh go crazy promoting today um i i wanted to see who comes naturally which is kind of cool so i just kind of just told the vigilante guys and uh you know i didn't really go crazy anywhere like i normally do um so we have an a new uh new initiative on the table uh it's not new it's actually been sitting on the table for a while inside rnd uh it was an idea for a pirate miner uh and that comes along uh a dev a couple days ago and and he's he uh he wants to do something similar so uh you know hand in hand i put them together and uh i introduce you guys to mr pross hey hey guys here's our new dev in uh rnd oh he's in an oddball dev yes a little odd a little odd you don't necessarily get many people working with windows type stuff so that's true but you know so it's a little a little different um which i i appreciate and i like different so um so we we could we started talking for what man we talked like three hours or something yeah and it it was it was an insane conversation about all kinds of avenues that we could take uh with different types of ideas so uh he is also a visionary uh uh he he's a v if if you start talking he comes up with different ideas as we as i do you know so he's also a visionary so it's great to have another visionary on and uh and he's he also has come up with uh his own version of wind uh of windows that runs on ram but uh it's a common version not many people think of using it it's been around a long time uh but he you know he's he's been able to utilize it to make a version of of what we need for this for this uh pirate miner but instead of being an application uh it's a whole operating system so it's the mining operating system right so remember back in the day we were fiddling with battleship well like he actually gave it an even better name uh uh what was it called juggernaut dreadnought dreadnought yeah if you look up dreadnought it's the actual name of a battleship uh so it's kind of cool it actually has has history so uh so you know battleship you know your cannons you're firing away hash wars we're you know we're attacking with our with our mining right so it all kind of it's very relative uh so so it's it's a great marketing aspect of the name as well that i like and uh you know going forward we could come up now with more ideas for this so so we have uh so we all he also he already has created uh we just just need to customize it i guess however we like right exactly and i can modify it i mean i'm deeply into it so i can just respond to the needs you have and yeah i'm looking forward to that having the you know the the the specific needs the things you need the things you don't need i love it i wish my wife would tell me so i'll respond to your needs did you marry me i'm the perfect so so let's uh so so let's contemplate on some ideas for for this new os so this is a pirate miner right so this is going to make it easy for people to mine right dreadnought is going to be uh a very simple uh way for people to get involved in mining we're going to turn it on right live boot right so this is so this win pe solution that he's using uh and and customizing and he has his own he's been doing this a long time he's a master at making these uh you just you just plug it in you boot up and and that's like it's your operating system just like ghost ships no different uh but only uh you'll recognize it it's windows for you for most people right what is it 70 percent of the world uses windows something like that probably 80 maybe i'm not even sure you at home yeah it's too many basically you know i mean i should step in and say that you know uh id microsoft did it you know it's it's like a like a linux build more than a windows build in the sense that it's really minimal you just you know include what you want very specifically i'm also like a race tuner so it's like performance builds and things like that so it's just out of the box it's just ridiculously performant and stable and it's engineering class it's not windows it hasn't got all the crap that windows comes with yeah so so if you guys if you guys have a question as to how this is this will work i'm i would love to hear them like could you imagine from the security point of view you know a windows a windows solution right also also can i put this on github you know is this a or is this something we're going to have to put over i2p and throw out there on the ground how's this going to work yeah i mean if you've got a windows license you can make a build you can download a tool and i could create a script for that to incorporate all the changes and the registries and blah blah blah so that yeah in theory you just take a windows 10 iso you run the app and based on that script i mean that would have to be developed because that's not the way i've been building it i've been you know taking i basically built i i want to know if this is legit because if it's knowledge then we're gonna have to take this off the record you know so so yeah it's legit it's all microsoft corporate tech basically you know and and pe is meant for this kind of stuff but microsoft say that you can't use it as an os replacement so what i've built what i've put in the in the in the chat uh and i can share with anyone who wants it uh is a i can't actually distribute that legally i mean i can give it to you guys if you have a windows 10 license then microsoft can off but i can't sell it right and there are plenty of live cds out there and we're not we're not selling anything here we're just happy i just wanted yeah so i just wanted to to make sure that if we do make this available you know as a download you know some customized stuff you know would we get in trouble for that because it's windows it really depends how it's done so for example uh at the moment it's meant to be a full operating system but uh in the end it wouldn't be that it would just boot straight into the miner you know and so it it wouldn't have os style functionality it would just be an embedded app with a minimal operating system skeleton around it just enough to make it work and so it's not really it's not an os anymore anyway it's just a plug-in and it just does one thing you know so it's more like uh it's it's more like just a bootable app really so um like a thin app but on hardware so you could think of it like that so that's probably what we'd end up with and i'm pretty sure that well you know we can distribute it underground and i'm pretty sure there's no legal issue but if there is then off yeah we'll have to we'll have to revisit that again yeah sorry just say it like that you know it's not the way but you know what i gotta say and i need to be true to myself i've never used a legal version of windows in my life you know they don't care unless my computer came with it right right and you know and the versions i do use are modified versions like like windows black edition which has all the you know winrar and all the utilities i like and everything's already in there you know so i don't have to install everything fresh yeah why would i want to install windows and then i have to install everything one by one i like having camera having everything pre-installed can i just add in something there and that there's another version um this this experimental pe type operating system is a hybrid but uh like the other thing i do is take normal windows and basically race tune it so it's not the same as black or those kind of editions because they tend to have a lot of updates and preinstalled.net and all that kind of stuff which is cool and then they have a lot of flashy quote-unquote graphics which some people like some people just consider bloat and i and i go the opposite way i go like you know extremely engineering workstation class you know minimal uh the highest performance you can get like you could study tweaking for decades and you might catch up with where i am not to be a dick but you know you know i'm as good as the best of them and if there's anyone here doing it as well i want to meet them and share notes you know but basically it's more like interesting i i i think i might know an actual microsoft development from a similar i know a few as well and you know if they if they're not working there anymore then i'm happy to speak to them but you know microsoft employees tend to be a little bit you know actually oh great cool then let's meet cool yeah i know a couple of people from microsoft as well you know by the way for example like a few years ago i made windows 7 workstation which was i think back in 2015 and i wrote to a friend well not a friend sorry but somebody i met in a conference who was the associate general counsel that's the sort of second top legal person for one third of the world for microsoft and she's a nice person i was talking about my social projects with her and she did some interviews and stuff and so we had a good connection i told her about workstation she never responded and then two years later windows workstation came out uh you know windows 10 workstation pro which still isn't as good as what i was doing but still it was kind of like a bit of a you know i was like you know shouldn't tell them too much well i think i think uh my tout uh the guy he worked on ver windows 95 i think they said i don't know i don't really talk to him too much or else i would introduce you no it's all good we don't need him i'm here yeah we're here we're all here you know so yeah we'll do it ourselves so so uh what what what other any any of you guys out there have any ideas for a mining operating system so so far this operating system that he's gonna build is going to have a cpu miner that automatically mines the pirate right a gpu miner that's automatically you know these are going to be scripts that are going to look like buttons on the desktop i'm guessing uh unless there's an even better way to do it right so um you know another and another one that will allow you to mine burst with your hard drive burst would look really love that i know they're part of the bpsa now um and and we get a third way of mining the uh somebody's computer right and then you get uh we we throw in a little mysterium or or maybe sentinel i'm not sure which ones are more profitable at this point in time uh you know and now you could mine with your internet bank right and then you throw in a little chordal and you're minting as well so i don't know what we got there like five ways of making some coin but one can and we could come up with more so uh you know this this would really be cool you just plug in the usb you click on mine with cpu my one hard drive mine with gpu right each button and you know wait away it goes right hopefully that you could uh you could even set it up so it just automatically does all of those things by default assuming you can do it you know so you can detect but with the hard drive with the with with burst it'll be a two it'll have to be a two phase thing so yeah they'll need they'll have to automatically plot the drives that they they point out that are free and and then the second phase would have to just start mining uh but before when when hard drive mining uh hard it it there's a whole bunch of plotted points on the drive in order for uh you know a miner to mine it so so it has like time stamps you know as it mines the drive um you know and that that needs to be created before mining so unfortunately some preparation for hard drive mining uh but i think we could automate that somehow using a turbo plotter there's an app called turbo platter out there and i i have a couple licenses and i i know the guy from back then i don't know if he remembers me but i'll hit him up if we need that maybe you can make something custom for us well you know the the the dreadnought os thing i've got already has a advanced disk caching system in it called primocash which you know you can set up a big buffer for the disc and put it on an infinite delay right so you can literally just burn away on the disc like gigabytes if you've got enough ram and it won't actually ever go to the disc and it's as fast as writing to ram so a lot of those operations like you know modifying a database or you know all that kind of stuff just happens like in ram effectively not on the disk and that's just built in already so you can you know have that set up as a default it would probably accelerate the hard drive mining potentially hundreds or even thousands of times in some cases oh wow it could be i haven't tested it yet but i do that well well everybody here i don't think they understand the the blessing of of why why we're doing this it everything runs in the ram so so there there's you don't even need a hard drive so everything's super fast on this operating system which means you're mining you're gonna have a little bit of an advantage over other miners because they're using windows or you know you know do you mind if i mind if i just um maybe i should explain a little bit those kind of features that maybe aren't obvious and then because this is this is so firstly yes the operating system itself sits in ram so all the apps are stably there uh what happens is you load it up you set up the apps the way you want and then there's like a save script i've created which just takes your app data program data software registry and stuff like that so all your apps remain registered on reboot but everything else is disappear you know unless you save it then every time you reboot you nothing will be saved every time so the whole thing is stored in ram um but then there's also disk caching so if you do have a hard drive or an ssd you can do operations there with or you could set up a ram disk and do stuff in there um and the cool thing is i suppose that you know because it's a super minimal operating system you're talking about like a system that's got like i don't know 20 30 processors running not 120 you know in normal windows for example so when you're talking about things like mining rendering gaming because there's just much less even though those small processes only take up point one percent each they they all add up to a big lot of chatter and noise and that really affects your cpu cache and all that kind of stuff so you get a much more streamlined uh whatever so that the likelihood i mean as far as i know windows is pretty high performance and you know i mean i don't know how it really compares to linux these days but as far as i understood like gaming and windows tends to be you know the fastest performance out of the gpu um although i can't confirm that really i haven't tested it with modern linux builds but it could be that you know this system is getting 20 better than normal windows just because it's not really windows it's this you know micro so yeah it's a and also have a has a bunch of caveats that it doesn't you can't just install an application on it that also means a virus cannot you know be installed and all the back doors just don't exist i mean i've gone through everything and i've i've just watched every little thing that is watching you know connecting to the internet and make sure it's not so you you load it up it's just not talking to the internet at all and that so when you're mining it's you know just that the operating system doesn't have all this crap that's normally going on in the background anyway i could go on and on but i just you know i hope that gives you guys dude okay okay well um you know you can basically embed anything into it and when you boot it up you can script everything so it can boot up into you know my you know what you've what you guys have got access to now with the iso is just uh you know it's like a start menu and there's a bunch of apps installed uh so lightweight so you just be saying it's so lightweight like everything's removed there's nothing it's like not even a freaking operating system yeah basically it's super minimal and and you can make it even more minimal because at the moment i've got it you know my this version is is things like you can run adobe premiere you can run you know steam with the games and all that kind of thing but if we're just going to run a miner then probably about 60 to 70 percent of the operating system even that can be stripped down so at the moment it's about 1.2 gig the one i sent you so it'll take up about 1.2 gig of ram plus say about 500 meg to actually run but if we stripped it right down it might get as small as who knows like 500 meg and could easily run on a very small machine i've made micro versions of it as well so you can get it really really down so it's just about booting a specific suite of software which is you know very specific it's it can be very small and probably most of the nets and the direct x's and all that kind of stuff can just be stripped away because you don't really need it right so so uh you you might you might have you tried mining uh yeah yeah somewhat yeah and i've loaded the pirate uh wallet on there it works and you know i've uh what i did first was i did the pirate light wallet i put in my seed uh word uh received phrases and uh then i saved it just to reboot and see if it stored it and it did so then the next time i started it just worked with i didn't have to type it in again and then i put it on a different piece of hardware and that's because it was the light yeah yeah it stored its data in app data and i guess that somehow it didn't need the seed phrase the second time because it was already in the in the app data i guess yep yep so uh but then when i when the hardware id changes then it asks again which is great because then you know it's it's a bit more secure but you can change that you know because i saved the app data we can always change the the wallet so if we think that's here then there'll be a different way of doing it or something so so uh how often does the hardware id change never uh so it'll on the same machine it'll always just be logged in so to speak if you boot it up on that on the same machine and then the question then is like you know you just don't save it if you don't want that to happen you see what i mean don't save your code if you don't want to have your you know if you want to put in the seed price every time just put in every time you know you don't have to save anything right once you pull it out though doesn't but once you you know uh turn off that the operating system and you pull out of the usb everything is gone right yeah because well you know like imagine you put the usb in it starts to boot and as soon as the windows logo appears you can pull the usb out and it just carries on loading because the whole what it does is it sets up a ram disk of like about i think it's two gigabytes and then it loads in the wim file and it uses this wim boot process where it sort of allocates just directly inside the wim file which is basically just a zip file effectively sort of uh and it basically just kind of installs that into ram it's it's kind of like a weird hard link thing so i'm not sure if that makes sense for anyone and we can elaborate on that if you want but it uses these kind of weird microsoft corporate technologies to create a ram disk put this operating system in compressed form into memory and then just runs directly from there and uh and so it it has like a system disk and so everything that goes into there will be lost so i had to create a sort of a save script which would capture all your settings and stuff and the idea is you would do that once and then not have to do it again um and so then after that every every time you reboot everything's gone unless you you know but for example you've got a uh you know your documents and all those kind of things and you can link those in from your user folders into the into the folder that it's looking at um and then for example if i download something on chrome it'll be in the downloads folder on my normal windows when i go there because it's actually on the hard drives it's not that you lose everything it's just you know this is the operating system traces that you lose hey guys hey guys you got no questions for this guy this guy is talking about building a windows upgrade they're probably all wondering like yeah but it's windows does it have mac address you can do everything i mean there's a tool for everything you know so i've explored all that stuff you can you can do anything you can give yourself new hardware ids you can randomize the um the computer name so it's mini nt and then five hexadecimal digits or i think it's more than hexadecimal just all the alphabetical characters and numbers um and so there's like i don't know 200 000 combinations you can be all random amongst or you could have them all the same name like just dreadnought or you microsoft or something like that and then you're ending up in a big cloud you know if we all had the same hardware id then it's hard to pin us down you know for example there's tons of different stuff you could do it's mind-boggling man who whoever thought we'd be going a windows route right well it's you know it's cool because there's a tool for everything you know that's and and i think that can be useful for us if you if you say like oh you know could we hardware spoof everyone or do it like this or do it like that or you know i'm sure those tools exist on linux as well so you know linux is definitely more of a hacker operating system in general but in windows that you know there tends to be a little bit of everything somewhere too you have uh a guy any anyone who wants to test this yes there is already something he has already something prepared if you guys want to test it out uh you know i want you to know that this is not public this is just a test uh we need testers uh i'll create a group or if you know cacs anybody wants to create a group anybody just just throw up a message inside the chat above this channel you know say i'd like to participate in testing and uh you know and you can check it out what he's got so far you know and we're gonna improve upon you know make it better maybe we had atomic decks and polarity and all sorts of you know uh exchanges right so that you could boot up you know do your exchanging empower get out of there you know you're done right yeah i mean if it works on windows it should be able to run on this for the most part i mean 99 it's just you need to tell me what the software is and i'll go and embed it and that's it yeah they got everything these days what's that for everything's four windows so i had a quick question hi there um so hi uh so does this is this a modification of a current windows version or is this like a layer on top of windows that you put in um okay so it's actually neither um when we talk about dreadnought or what we're calling or we've just started calling dreadnought i've been calling it nano so if you test it'll boot up and it'll it'll say dreadnought but the logo on the bottom left for the start menu will be nano right and and that's based on windows pe so it's it's not really a modification of existing windows although that was something i mentioned where i do that as well um and it's not a layer on top of existing windows but it is a layer on top of pe and pe is basically you know when you run windows setup it has to load into ram so that it can format your disk and install into it and so it's actually just a little stub technology that's not really meant for much more than that and so some people you know they make live cds with like you know secure arrays or some disk utilities that that you need to be on top of the operating system and so you need to be around i'm sorry yeah it's actually a tool used throughout throughout uh history it's it's not something new at all yeah it's it stands for windows pre-installation environment and so it's actually just this little utility stub that they created like a micro windows that was just for utility and of course they at microsoft they would have known hey this could have been used we could probably get this to run all apps but they just didn't do that you know their attempt to make a micro os was like windows s which is the shittest thing i've ever seen um it was just normal windows with windows disabled and just the store but it was just as big as normal windows it was absolutely pathetic uh and then this is more like you know you take that windows pe thing uh some people have made these live cds that you've probably come across like hirings and these kind of things which are based on that and i started by modifying that actually and trying to hack it into a full operating system basically by getting graphics drivers working that was the original intention and just thinking holy if i could get graphics working in here would be great so that that happened and then i managed to hack in opencl and all the other stuff and then i decided to go and learn how to make my own pe build from scratch and just you know so that it was as stable as possible so so yeah it's really something it's like a hybrid of normal windows and this stub and of course i haven't done it completely alone um in the sense that other people had already you know created software to create your own windows pe build but then what i did with that is like massively modify that into you know a clean operating system that does what i want you know which is just everything i want and nothing i don't and the best performance that's possible and i want to play all the games and apps and not have to you know mess around that's it you know so it's it ends up being this really tight little hybrid weird i don't think there's anyone else doing that i suppose i know i mean there's people who there's people who've got some other stuff with like windows pe with a graphics driver but they don't seem to have got cuda and all that stuff working for example so they can't actually mine with it and things like you know so that's the sort of a fairly i think a rare opportunity that we have to if we can do it um oh and the other thing what's this if what's this if i mean sorry yeah no i'm a bit stoned i think i'm just losing no no i'm losing my throat a bit because i i'm like i'm yeah it's just i'm just it's like four in the morning for him where he is well it's yeah it's it's it's one in the morning but but anyway just a quick thing to say there is that you know you get about 20 better performance and gpu compute in some apps for example because it's you know nvidia drivers aren't really meant to run and wins pe when they do all you know all these complex interactions of the bus saying the bus and then the gpu and the cpu and all the interlocking timings and all those stuff they're just a little bit cleaner so it actually gives you way more um you know performance actually than it actually should but because most of the bottlenecks and you know the weight states and all these kind of all these kind of things are the things that slow things down actually usually yeah i can't i can't wait to test this out so this this should be pretty cool especially for varus mining virus with cpu or mining monero with cpu i'd like to test it against uh like a normal machine yeah and test zen as well the the other operating system because that will outperform this in some cases and especially in cpu stuff um yeah and then for gpu as well we have ethereum you know to mine so yeah i'd love to see if we can get great performance increase right because everyone wants a performance increase for free right so do you have any privacy features built in you mentioned earlier i think it was mentioned like mac address moving other privacy features built in i do actually yeah i i what i did was i took peer block and i spent a few weeks and every now and then i catch up on it i spent a few weeks getting ip4 blocker lists um you know and combining them into basically by default it blocks half of the world's internet ip4 addresses and i also you know completely disabled ip6 so that there's only ip4 um and then the other thing clear block just has as a default is a http blocker so anything that's not https just doesn't go out as far as i understand it or at least it's blocking the http stuff which is you know unencoded and uncompressed or unencrypted so yeah those at that stage it's sort of you know it's it's got us it's got a condom on although that's not going to be you know the perfect end result but what you could do for example is use that peer blocker to just block the entire world's ip addresses except for the one that you want to actually access and of course there's probably a better way of doing that but with it being pe you can just hard hack all of that stuff in and there's always a tool for something so i i think that the more challenges you bring with it that i just would never have thought of then i'll just go and try to see how to do it and probably you know in most cases so far at least just you know i'll come back with something that hopefully works so i think you know yeah well i hope so i hope yeah you know the more challenges i have the more opportunity i have to learn how to fix them and great i love that because you know i don't know how private it is yet because for example i i think it could be really hard to hack it if not impossible uh but that's a stupid assumption to make until a bunch of people who actually know how to you know break into windows are going to test it and tell me how they got in i'll fix it you know so for me that's brilliant that's i love that but well you got lots of geniuses to work with here in pirates i mean not just in pirate the r d team and some of those guys are here as well i see alchemy here i see teams i see phoenix we got a few a few people here from the r d team we got wilkie's years uh i'm looking forward to meeting everyone and um how you do how do you have a show or something where you interview everyone in here i don't know something i can catch up or you can listen to all the weekly meetings right well i'm looking forward to know you all that's funny yeah yeah we got them all pre-recorded everybody oh great we we've had we had a show for alchemy uh we had i think as i bring people in you know and we have something we could work on with that person so so you see with you you had a project right you had something cool that i could i could put you on uh and that was the pirate minor right which was just supposed to be an application but now you know uh it kind of fits the bill with an old idea of battleship a mining operating system and we kind of put it together and now you got you know your customized os and uh and the mining and the mining app that we wanted for to get people on board right so it's it's really yeah and it can run a node like you said you know it can you could do anything basically so yeah we can have a bunch of different ones i mean this mining thing is such a mystery for new people it's like it's like so mysterious right so this is having something like this that's easy where they could just plug it in you know and maybe just follow a couple of instructions maybe just you know add your address to your pirate wallet that that'd be a good one right yeah that's pretty much all you need to do okay yeah and that's what that's how easy it should be absolutely i mean i think as well that you know in terms of developing um the pirate wallets and those kind of things i mean if you want to have i think you've got a pirate os which is effectively a linux build right a minimal linux build that runs the wallet so i mean there's no reason why you couldn't do that with this as well and it would i mean maybe not with the light wallet but if the main wallet is doing some kind of mining or other activity that would benefit from performance then or security potentially it might be might end up which to me sounds funny because of course i know linux is a much superior system for that stuff traditionally but because of the nature of this being windows pe it's actually kind of windows linux if you see what i mean it's actually potentially quite tight and who knows it might outperform other stuff so you know just i would say just mess with it and see what you can do with that existing basis and we can just do it i wonder if i wonder if we could dual boot go ship and and uh dreadnought in one usb stick you can yeah i mean the the thing about dreadnought or this this this uh system i'm offering it's just a whim file so you can boot that easily you know it can come off a pxe it can you know i've tested it with vm uh closed networks where there's a server supplying the wim file and then there's a whole bunch of clients booting off it and using a shared shared folder to bring their own unique settings and on boot up transparently all that sort of stuff and it all just works i mean that that sounds kind of dangerous but in a way there's something unique about that because if you could boot to the you know if you could pixie boot to to a file right like in a in a corporate situation if you put the file on ipfs right you put that boot file right there on ipfs right and and you know you give people the gateway you know the gateway and the hash to that file uh would we be able to pixie boot to that file over ipfs through the gateway i don't see why not as long as the pxc boot rom can access the file then yes i guess and then that i mean i i couldn't tell about ipfs but someone will i just haven't i could i'll show you how to do that cool let's look into it and see if we can get it working i mean i can't code anything but we can find someone who can or who has i'm sure there is someone oh yeah well i have i have a couple ipfs nodes uh so we could you know i could use i could add it to ipfs and i just got to boot it up and i could i could edit type you professional problem uh and get you a hash that will work through any gateway that's not a problem i could do that awesome well yeah i mean the iso is there so you know anyone who wants to test it and you know lutz is going to manage that you're going to manage that right so yeah but uh happy to help if there's a group i'll provide any input and support whatever i can and let's get built you know oh can you use it with raspberry pi giuliana's asking oh uh i don't think so not currently because it's uh you could think of it as like a windows x it's an x64 you know or x8664 um iot kind of style thing so you you in theory if you've got an x86 raspberry pi sure but that's not the case so uh i think there is a arm version of windows that i could in theory build on i don't have the the the hardware for that but you know if that could run up on a pie which i don't i don't know i don't think so but i think a pie is a arm right so maybe who knows maybe or something for r d in the future yeah if windows can do it then i can do it with windows but um you know there are other people who are much better at say for example linux or pi uh pleasure i i think ghost ship works on raspberry doesn't it it does i mean the smallest versions i've made of this os in x86 form uh were around 400 megs 300 meg so that it's it's not that small you know i mean i've got a i've got a version that works on a 2gig machine i think that's about as low as i can really get it as a whole operating system but if it's running a minor it's you know but if i don't think it's at the level of the pie i think it's even smaller so i'm not an expert in it though well well look look i i love i love the fact that you pull it out it all runs in ram everything's secure so we got opsec you know in mind uh we you know i mean the whole thought of windows kind of was scary at first yeah absolutely if you think about it it's not because it's not really windows it's like windows pe i mean if anybody knows it's like it's high like to me it's like that just the boot of this drive you know it's so it's it's not really an operating system but it is or it wasn't but now it is what is an operating system right it's just the platform that manages other software switches right hardware abstraction layers software abstraction layers and and windows pe is just that right and it's really minimal because it's just designed to format your disk and put windows on it basically it's literally that it's called the pre-installation environment that's that's literally what it is so it's kind of like taking a minimum linux stub and and building it out with just the components you need and that's basically what it did but in in this case the the demo version is as like it is a full operating system and it runs steam and games and all of it um so it doesn't run the dx12 yet but that's that's only the only thing which you can't but um yeah it does everything all right if you if you guys have any questions please please ask them we need to start talking about anarchopulco um so if you guys got questions just type it inside the chat and we're going to start talking about inaudible oh sorry yeah let me pick the chat i'm missing the chat yeah sorry it's right above this channel yeah a lot of people they're not comfortable talking fair enough sorry guys i haven't especially if they're anonymous yeah and i hadn't been paying attention to the chat sorry you know i told you to pay attention to the chat come on you said you were gonna bring your a game uh here we go okay all right guys so we got anarchopoco uh an event coming actually i will be at the summit on the fourth i i i make it sound like i'm actually gonna be there it's a virtual event but uh you know i'm gonna be at in tcb summit on the fourth and then we have anarchopoco um and that's coming the eighth nine ten and eleven of of march right so uh we we've made an arrangement with uh with the nrcopoco people i'll be talking to them again tomorrow thursday and tomorrow morning uh to get some more questions answered and what we'll have is a live booth over there uh so we could we could do something for pirate uh we are we are as well sponsoring it uh so uh with that sponsorship we get a booth and you know we get some other stuff uh you know uh something like an email blast 10 000 drivers and some other perks and benefits there right uh that am i bringing uh you know a few new people so it should be interesting we should be doing more events uh so uh this is the next one i think the bigger the big one that's coming is is this one uh i will be going there personally i will be going there to mexico myself uh to be networking with these guys uh so i will be there uh they're only inviting 100 people and uh you know i will i will actually be there so so uh the the virtual part of this will be done by the team uh as i'm there because i won't be you know i will be behind the computer uh all hands on and stuff so uh we're we're looking to so this this boot that we get is a live it's a live basically watch party i guess they call it but it's a live stream i'm guessing i'm going to find out more tomorrow but it's it's a live stream during the al the anarchopoco event that they will be publicizing for us uh so so that so uh we have to come up with with uh you know some interesting stuff to show people obviously right so this is going to be about pirate uh as well as uh i think on the off time uh you know or even during the event depends uh we could have other projects come on you know so if varys would like to come on or or or comodo you know what want to throw us uh a one hour in you know show pre-recorded you know to throw it on you know send it over uh we to to help us cover the sponsorship the cost of the sponsorship uh you know talk to me when you do that because it will cost any you know depending how long it is it will cost anywhere from uh you know 50 bucks to 100 bucks to you know so it's not it's not much but at least you'll be part of the nrcopoco event you know that's not much marketing effort on your part except for a pre-recorded show and you know 100 bucks to participate or or depending on the amount of time you take up so i i think that that's a great way of uh of helping pay you know help me pay for the sponsorship which at this point is costing uh somewhere a little over seven grand in all with uh with other expenses uh we gotta and there's probably gonna be a lot more because we're gonna need t-shirts promotional items like uh you know possibly coins from uh trade shop so you know it we don't know yet we have one month to organize and plan this guys uh can everybody still hear me yep all right just check so uh yeah so we we got to get this uh you know this going so uh you know what do you guys think and acapulco sounds exciting this is the most anarchist freaking show we could be on i mean it's in line with pirate this is where we should shine uh on top of it we do have connections with the vigilante group and jeff likes us so uh you know we should maybe we get some more bells and whistles somehow over there right and uh promote us a little more and um you know um what you guys think you know what what projects can we get in in here for you know to to cover the stream time of four days i don't i'm not sure if it's gonna be continuously four days or just certain times every day when the booth goes live live but uh you know what's your thoughts or guys we could totally the whole bringing in other people's idea and we could just say you know uh one day you know we're gonna teach pirate mining and one day we're gonna teach how to use your pirate wallet and why pirate is is you know the most secure out there and and you know maybe one day we'll be just for the bpsa you know and then and then maybe another day oh you know we'll just get some live chats that day you know and and the whole day will be full of live chats make that a little more eventful you know so we can organize this however we want not nothing here is written in stone so i see you guys going on about the the the dreadnought all right so you guys like the minor i see the minor os all right so we'll we'll talk about more about anarchopulco in the in the internal meeting guys um but i want the public to know what's going on so uh that's what we're doing guys in our capoco in a month uh we're gonna have uh i'll be on t in t summit on the fourth uh of february it's very coming up very soon uh and also the guest speakers there also include zuko and fluffy pony so i'll be in line with them uh fyi so i like i like seeing us being on par with uh you know with these guys so it's pretty pretty cool all right and then that's about all i got for this week uh guys uh looks like we're almost going an hour here uh did you did you guys have any updates maybe drake you got an update for pirate you went through out there or anybody you got anything anything happened this week mate i'm in the meeting no worries i'll be a minute sorry guys no problem all right guys all right so so i'm going to start the recording pineapple um thanks for coming coming this week thanks for coming coming this week thanks for coming coming this week thanks for coming coming